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I'm sad POTBS SIGNED WITH SOE NO!

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  • MADMANusaMADMANusa Member Posts: 21

    Rhoklaw,

    I here you on that brilliant post.  But your missing the point FLS has achieved a milestone that will show that SOE can't control every game they get involved in.  You take your anger out on SOE on this one, you are taking it out on FLS..... So your just proving that no one can beat SOE.  Congrats!!!

  • tsunnutsunnu Member Posts: 21

     

    Another game to SOE.. Another game I wont be playing.  If it has that label anywhere on the box. I wont buy it. ( perid)

    Good luck .

     

     

  • m240gulfm240gulf Member UncommonPosts: 460

    Originally posted by MADMANusa


    M240gulf,
    But in the end your hurting the little guy (FLS) as well.  So what have you achieved?
    I have no doubt that FLS will make out in the end, I know the game will be a solid and stable game at launch.  This will help PotBS grow, but as long as SOE is there I can't be a part of that growth.  If FLS becomes strong enough to stand on its own two feet without SOE's help I will be the 1st person in line to start playing.

     

    I don't want to boycot FLS, but if I give FLS my money a portion of it will end up with SOE and thats just as good as me giving them money.  I'm not trying to bring down SOE either, they will always be there, I'm just not going to be a part of their success anymore.

    I Reject your Reality and Substitute it with My Own!
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  • MADMANusaMADMANusa Member Posts: 21

    Then your lost my friend...  You missed the point completely.

     

  • berryg2005berryg2005 Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Rhoklaw


     


    You hate SOE because they let you down? because they lied, cheated and stole your money?
     
    Lets take a look at the games your excited about and the history behind the companies they are involved with.


    I never said SOE "stole my money" (though they did try to nickle-and-dime me in EQ2) and I never played AC2.  Never played DAoC.  Never played AO.  Never played EVE.  Never played Earth and Beyond.  Never played Vanguard.  If I had I might have issues with those companies as well.  I don't, but I won't begrudge someone who has and has a negative opinion of them.  And my issues with SOE don't just stem from SWG.  I'd already quit SWG before the CU.  A lot of my problem with SOE comes from the first four months of EQ2.  Hell I don't even think less of them for buying Vanguard, though I pray the same doesn't happen to PotBS.

     

    Originally posted by Rhoklaw



    Have a nice day and I mean it, cause I seriously doubt you will.

     

    You're so cute when you act all butch.

  • BaTDiEBaTDiE Member Posts: 18

    SOE will only take care of putting boxes in gaming shops... Flying Labs kepts all it's rights and management of community, forum, beta, develope, patches.....

    But there is always this band of nerds fighting for the justice and the poor and the weak, against the evil BIG monster SOE represent. So this band has to ruin everything related to SoE.

    You are doing nothing but potentially damaging an independent studio with a great project in their hands. Stop spreading the false word that Flaying Labs is under SOE hands.

  • MADMANusaMADMANusa Member Posts: 21

    Night all thanks for voicing your opinions.  For those who still believe in supporting the little guy (FLS)  I look forward to sinking you in the game.  For all of you naysayers.  Have fun killing the elves.  Because there is not much else out there but POTBS www.burningsea.com

     

     

  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219

    all u trolls are idiots. read it. all they are doing is publishing it. THATS IT. which means putting boxes in the store. stop ur soe hating and get over it . SWG is in the past. and soe has givin us great games. give it up already companies make mistakes. and potbs partnering with sony is NOT A BAD THING they need it.

  • FormlessFormless Member Posts: 37

     

    lawl, another one bites the dust

     

    and some dudes, like this BaTDiE above me will never learn apparently.

    im wondering if he did copy his post directly from the vanshit boards? how come ppls still seriously think that someone will throw millions at some developer for free?

  • berryg2005berryg2005 Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Rhoklaw


     
    Haha, being 34 and in the US Army, I don't think I qualify for cute and you have to wonder, for someone who doesn't play any SOE games anymore and can't wait for Warhammer Online, why would bother to defend them. I played SWG from launch and EQ2 as well and sure, there were some pretty bad experiences, mainly in SWG, but EQ2 is not the same anymore. It is quite a bit better since I was given the chance to come back and check it out for free.
     
    I am playing Anarchy Online though at the moment, because I'm trying to steer away from playing any high fantasy games so I won't be burnt out for WAR. I guess people will always hate SOE, but saying it's not fair for me to begrudge you is calling the kettle black, since you are begruding SOE on an even higher level.

    I've heard EQ2 is completely, 100% different than it was in the brief time I played after launch.  But for me that was SOE's second chance and the blew it miserably when they started in with the upselling on character slots, upselling on content - blech.  I'm glad it's different and that there are people enjoying it, but I'll never go back and try it.



    And I am not saying it's not fair for you to begrudge me.  Example: I like Cryptic as a developer.  They have fantastic communication with their customers and I've had nothing but good experiences with them.  If someone else has had a different experience, I'm not going to rush out and label them a 'hater 'or something.  I'm going to assume that based on their own experiences there is probably a very good and valid reason for them feeling the way they do.  And the same goes with folks who don't like SOE.  I mean SOE released an expansion that had content they knew would be taken out of the game in days.  Sure they gave refunds... but still they released it knowing that.  And that's damn slimey.

    I don't want SOE to die out or anything.  I do think their negative image will continue as long as Smedley is in charge there and that nothing will change for the better with SOE while he's there.  I would like them to lose the SWG license so that something better might come along from someone else and take its place.

  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550

     

    There is a reason that John Smedley, President of SOE, posted several times on the pre-release Vanguard forums that SOE would have no part in the development of Vanguard.  It wasn't because they expected Vanguard to fail like it did, and it wasn't because they wanted people to be scared away by SOE not being involved.  It was because SOE has a very well deserved reputation of making very poor decisions where their customers are concerned.  The guy in charge of the company realizes this, and will likely soon be making the same statements about PotBS as he did about Vanguard.  The folks at Flying Lab Software aren't unaware of this.  They actually spent most of the 'Developer's Log' trying to explain why it isn't as bad as you might think.  It doesn't seem that the fact that they have to try and convince people that signing a contract with SOE is not such a bad thing, might be a bad thing in and of itself.  The President of SOE has a similar blind spot, even when he is touting his comapny's non-involvement as a selling point.

    Anyway, I truly hope PotBS is realesed in a complets, polished, and functional form.  I also hoe the game is fun and exciting.  But most of all, I hope the game fails miserably.  It is a shame, as I was looking forward to it.  I pretty much lost most of my interest when the folks at Flying Lab Software began pushing the line that it didn't really matter who would publish the game since they intended to keep full control over it.  Since those statements came as a result of many people on their forums begging them not to even consider SOE as publisher, I figured SOE was who they were negotiating with.

     Basically, when you crawl into bed with liars and thieves, people are going to think you might just be a liar and thief.

     

     

     

  • tsunnutsunnu Member Posts: 21

    Well at any rate.. Any game SOE related or involved in any way will not get a dime from me.

    And as far as it becoming a * SOE * legal game , Well time has show thats it literally just a matter of time. 

    So dress it up. Do what you need. Slamming people for not buying something is about as inept as it can get.

    I dont buy chevy. I like ford.  I dont like blondes, I prefer brunettes.  ie .. blahblahblah(tm) --soon to be owned by SOE

     

  • tsunnutsunnu Member Posts: 21

    Oh snap.. please go down your list of ghost companies that have done worse for customer service then SOE?

     

  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by Formless


     
    lawl, another one bites the dust
     
    and some dudes, like this BaTDiE above me will never learn apparently.
    im wondering if he did copy his post directly from the vanshit boards? how come ppls still seriously think that someone will throw millions at some developer for free?

    ok dude first of all vanguard is lame. never even played it. get over ur soe whiny omg they ruined so many games they are the devil attitude. get over it theres a thing called business. and MONEY is what makes all these mmos u play. soe is a damn good business. what happens is for that business so get over it. dont bitch about em just dont play their games if u dont like it that much.

  • KnetterzzKnetterzz Member Posts: 3

    What happened to some amount of confidence in the potbs team? If they say SOE was the best there was for them i believe it. They would never sign with them if they thought SOE would buy them out. And if we all make potbs a succes that will never be necessary. And if it will be necessary, because nobody is playing or any other reason, I would rather have SOE blow new life into it then let any other company let it die.

  • Greek_MattGreek_Matt Member Posts: 354

    THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!

    What a relief SoE is publishing this title... finally there's a filter to weed out all the small-minded, tinfoil-hat-wearing bitter old men who just can't let go and play games for the fun of it. That alone would make this worth checking out. Knowing Sony, they're probably using this game to steal your identity and increase global warming too... bastards!

    Must say I'm impressed to see the growing list of progressive titles on SoE's list lately - between Pirates and The Agency they're looking like much more of a Contender and much less of a Retirement Home for the staleware of yesteryear. Might even make a Station Pass finally worthwile, long as they don't jack up the price again... chance to take a peek at some of those other titles you could never quite bring yourself to actually pay for.


  • BaTDiEBaTDiE Member Posts: 18

    lawl now im going to write tis post like af fukin retard ok?

    zisht i cant belive people like Formless are so deep in finansial busines at the zame thime they take care of leading a riot populated by all those geeks n nerdss dat played start wark galaxis onlaine n got pwnd by soe n stole there money haha

    You 27 my balls, clearly seems school time is over.

  • FormlessFormless Member Posts: 37

     

    you like to ignore facts, dont you?

  • nikoliathnikoliath Member UncommonPosts: 1,154

     

    Originally posted by Rhoklaw


    PotBS Fan - "Oh crap, there goes another great game to the SOE incinerator! Guess I'll have to find something else to play."
    SWG Veteran - "Heh, yeah it sucks don't it? SOE the massive corporate king of MMOs has their tainted hands on yet another game. Too bad Lucas Arts didn't step in with their ultimate authority in our games development and stop the NGE."
    EQ1 Veteran - "Uhm, so what if SOE is publishing and marketing the game. EQ1 is the godfather of MMOs and always will be. Haha, UO? That's not even a 3 dimensional game."
    Planetside Veteran - "SOE doesn't know what they are doing, I mean holy crap. They let people play our game for free so we have competition."
    EQ2 Veteran - "Oh, notice how everyone that hates SOE never talks about the sucess of EQ1 and EQ2? It's amazing isn't it?"
    Matrix Online Veteran - "Yeah, our game was dying and that damn SOE company bought it and kept it alive. They aren't anything like EA and just shutting stuff down the moment it loses a customer."
    VG Veteran - "Theres so much wrong with our game, but I'm still playing it. Everyone knows Brad is a genius and Sigil would have launched this a lot more smoothly had they not joined with SOE."
    /sarcasm off
    I can't say this enough, even though I no longer support SOE, not because of SWG, but because of their lack of customer care. I still applaud SOE where I can't say the same for any other gaming company with multiple titles under their belt. NO other company, NONE has ever offered 7 MMO's for the price of 2 or your favorite for the price of 1. SOE is the only company with the balls to step up to the plate and allow its subscriber the ability to switch from one game to the next so you are never bored. Hate SOE all you want and claim PotBS will fail, but your claims are biased and unfounded since both VG and PotBS were developed by the original companies.
    Oh no! VG failed? No, Sigil failed you idiot.
    Oh no! PotBS is going to fail now!! Why? Cause the company retains complete control? Don't you think your taking this SOE hate a little to far and letting your biased opinion of them cloud your mind?
    People give me crap for supporting EA, the MMO destroyer for shutting down Earth and Beyond. Guess what, I know better then to think that way because Warhammer is being made by a great company, with a great concept and it too made sure to retain developing rights when they joined with EA. If anyone that followed PotBS has suddenly turned traitor because of this, I think your the true failure of MMOs, not EA or SOE, and your lack of support for a game you were passionate about only proves your a pushover who doesn't deserve a game they want.

     

    Here here!  I was going to quote on of your other posts, but this one is spot on.

     

    To all those foaming, delusional, rabid, short sighted individuals who feel that the world just ended I say, grow-up. Much of your irrational hate for SOE seems to be based on fiction and hyperbole. Some of you really do need to seek some form of counselling, no really.

     soephobic ; sofeu.bik

    adjective, noun ~ someone who has an irrational fear and loathing of Sony Online Entertainment.  Sufferers  often display the following symptoms,  ranting, loathing, self loathing, whining, fanaticism and delusion.

    note: soephobia can be spread orally often effecting people who have never had contact with SOE.

  • tsunnutsunnu Member Posts: 21

    wow I smell fanboi

     

  • demolishIXdemolishIX Member Posts: 632

         Well another game on the list to stay away from ... I was soo psyched about PotBS,couldnt wait for it to come out ... well SOE aka money hungry idiotic retards with no imagination whatsoever and no care or love for any of their customers and worst developers that could be replaced by monkeys since monkeys have more imagination than they do.

     Well guess il stick with eve online ,were the devs actualy play the game and arent money crazed freaks and dont put up any of that omigod butz CCP cheatorz cuz thai helpz bob,well yeah 1 dev made a mistake let's bash everyone on the planet for it shall we (and no I am not part of BoB ,I hate both BoB and goonfleet)

      Soo have fun with yet another ruined game ... people just cant learn from the past,SOE is the worst thing that can happen to a mmog,and SOElickassboys please dont judge me for hatting SOE,if you give me back all of the money wasted on some of their games filled with broken promises and lies than il happily shut up about them.

    P.S

     PoTBS R.I.P

    Oh yeah,also dont be surprised if you see elfs included in PotBS and dont mind the new WoW like UI and the new ship jumping system,yes ships will soon be able to jump and raid dungeons will be added wich are a bugged to hell ... new bugs to bump into and exploits to use.HAV FUNZ ,<insert SOE dev chuck norris joke> lewlz.

  • MezzumMezzum Member UncommonPosts: 27

    Originally posted by uZeal


    Anyway if you read what rusty  has to say you would realize that there if absolutely no way for soe to mess up the game.  And he goes on to say that if you dont like the game or how the servers are run that its flying labs fault not soe's.  SOE is good at advertising and getting product on shelves and I happen to like their launchers.  They cant touch the game or even try to influence its direction to me this is a win win situation.
    The EXACT same thing was said about Vanguard.. almost word for word.  Soon...

     

    Sony Announces (insert date) - has purchased the assets of. blah blah blah..

  • kjm2006kjm2006 Member Posts: 90


     

    Ok, so FLS has signed with SOE. But does this mean anything, the answer no it does not.

    They only control

     Sony Online Entertainment

    • Billing

    • Launcher

    • Retail Distribution

    • Localization

    • Marketing

    So basically they can't do anything, they could try and buy out FLS like you poor misguided SOE haters who don't bother to look at the facts and just go crazy. FLS will not sell to SOE for to reasons:

    1)FLS isn't poor and are in good shape money wise

    2) I know the devs and they would rather sell their houses to pay for the game then let SOE have it, this game has been a labour of love for them and they put their heart and soul into this game.

    Also the SOE launcher has improved a lot since the old days and most of you haters haven't played anything SOE for years so what would you know?

    SOE's history is not a good one, but it is not as bad as it is made out to be for one Matrix online wasn't their fault and VSoH also wasn't, the only thing they have done wrong is SWG but everyone does things wrong and we should just give this game a chance and not go running around like mad people going OMG OMG it's SOE, RUN!!! 

    POTBS username:yohorumrunner
    Guild:St George Squadron

  • FormlessFormless Member Posts: 37

    Originally posted by Rhoklaw


     
    Originally posted by Formless


     
    you like to ignore facts, dont you?

     

    Theres a fine line between ignoring facts and telling half truths...

    SOE haters are half truth masters

    what part of  "how come ppls still seriously think that someone will throw millions at some developer for free?" do you call a "half-truth"?

    since when does stating facts make me a sony hater?

    i think i may call you a purple-glasses-wearing fanboy tough.

  • BaTDiEBaTDiE Member Posts: 18

    <blockquote><i>Originally posted by demolishIX</i>
    <br><b><p>     Well another game on the list to stay away from ... I was soo psyched about PotBS,couldnt wait for it to come out ... well SOE aka money hungry idiotic retards with no imagination whatsoever and no care or love for any of their customers and worst developers that could be replaced by monkeys since monkeys have more imagination than they do.</p>
    <p> Well guess il stick with eve online ,were the devs actualy play the game and arent money crazed freaks and dont put up any of that omigod butz CCP cheatorz cuz thai helpz bob,well yeah 1 dev made a mistake let's bash everyone on the planet for it shall we (and no I am not part of BoB ,I hate both BoB and goonfleet)</p>
    <p>  Soo have fun with yet another ruined game ... people just cant learn from the past,SOE is the worst thing that can happen to a mmog,and SOElickassboys please dont judge me for hatting SOE,if you give me back all of the money wasted on some of their games filled with broken promises and lies than il happily shut up about them.</p>
    <p>P.S</p>
    <p> PoTBS R.I.P</p>
    <p>Oh yeah,also dont be surprised if you see elfs included in PotBS and dont mind the new WoW like UI and the new ship jumping system,yes ships will soon be able to jump and raid dungeons will be added wich are a bugged to hell ... new bugs to bump into and exploits to use.HAV FUNZ ,<insert SOE dev chuck norris joke> lewlz.</p></b></blockquote>
    <br>


    Wtf I don't give anything because you against SOE but YOU MAKING FUN OF CHUK NORRIES' JOKES? WHAT THE... he would pwn anyones ass in here in less than 0.2 seconds he's an ex ninja, i've seen his movies.

    Funniest post in here by the way, liked that part of jumping ships. I really hope SOE take full care of flying lab now, just to see ships with special ability to get bugged in downgeons while jumping and so... amazing

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