First off, I didn't play any Blizzard games, other than Starcraft. The rest sucks for me. Blizzard stole the lore of WH, no one doubts that.
But a game sell because of gameplay. Blizzard made a recognized brand, because of gameplay, not lore. Anyone may very well call WAR a WoW ripoff. I don't remember GW coming up with any gameplay ideas on how to do an MMO prior to WoW. Do you?!
Yeah I did. When Climax were making the Original Warhammer Online about 7/8 years back.
Not to mention, WAR has quite a lot of unique gameplay ideas. Do your research and you'll find them.
And you can only call War a WoW rip-off if you think that it is a rip-off by being in the same genre.
i havnt heard any wow fanboi say anything becides that WAR has dwarfs and orcs for the argument of WAR stole everything from WOW, there isnt one thing WAR has the same thing of as WOW becides the stuff WOW stole from DAOC and EQ
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011 -------------------- Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
i havnt heard any wow fanboi say anything becides that WAR has dwarfs and orcs for the argument of WAR stole everything from WOW, there isnt one thing WAR has the same thing of as WOW becides the stuff WOW stole from DAOC and EQ
DAoC had dwarves, blue skined elves vs pale skined elves ,Trolls, an ET looking race with tentacles hanging off his face, an auction house, battlegrounds, goblinoids named kobalds and was out before wow. Therefore WoW copied off DAoC if we use this logic.
Does it really matter, folks? I always wondered why there are discussions about this, and it usually never ends! Remember, there is actually no need to explain that WAR is not like WoW, because the ones who doesn't get it, won't get it. There will always be someone saying that WAR looks like WoW, even after that it has been explained. And there have been better discussions which has proven a lot that WAR is not like WoW. And no, I won't explain why, because I know that there will STILL be some folks saying that WAR looks like WoW (true facts!).
I usually never post, though, but I just had to post this.
Alright, to the folks who won't and still won't get it: If you think that WAR looks like WoW, then why bother to post something meaningless? Just play whatever game you want, we don't care about what you think about WAR. If you like WoW, play WoW or whatever. Just don't post meaningless posts and play your games.
I am really looking forward to play WAR. It's so promising!
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Maybe I should just swear like a sailor and make all kinds of racial and religious comments to get a MMORPG.com staff response and they close this thread
Just kidding.
The thread title, a question: "Is WAR ripping off WoW?"
The FINAL answer-
Yes. And no.
Certain aspects yes, all games, movies, books, everything is influenced by that which came before it. Following that exact same chain of though, the answer to the question is also no.
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
The big difference is I wont be doing hours upon hours of Boring pve loot raids. Say what you want ive played them both. just my opinion.
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
The big difference is I wont be doing hours upon hours of Boring pve loot raids. Say what you want ive played them both. just my opinion.
I agree. I wouldnt do any type of raid that would take hours to do unless its on an enemies base, that I can actually destroy. Thats one of the very few things that kept me with SWG (pre-cu).
Infact im not boasting anything for WoW I really think its a bad game, but my opinion is I dont think we're going to see much different in WAR other than maybe actually gaining levels off of PVP. But how different will tehy be? Of course every game that comes out have similar things with a few things changed, we have seen that countless amount of times since DAOC was released (WoW, SUN, Dragon9, EQ2, fury). My question is other than the games that are taking forever to develop what will come out that not only breaks from the mold but holds true to what htey promise
After watching all the WAR videos it's become crystal clear that WAR is using EXACTLEY the same engine as WoW... Exactley the same cartoony style, character models...even the yellow explanation marks! I'm by no means trying to flame, but can anyone explain what exactley is original about this game considering all the hype?
Honestly, what does it matter? It can be argued that WOW got many of its concepts and ideas from the Warhammer tabletop game. Many games use the same engine. For example, there are tons of games that use the Unreal engine. As for as the exclamation marks, well, Lineage 2 uses them, too. Lineage 2 came out well before WOW. I guess WOW copied Lineage 2. Since when is an exclamation mark intellectual property? It's not a matter of a game being original. In fact - in basic terms - there's nothing in WOW that hasn't been done in a game before. It's HOW it's done that made WOW successful. WOW is a great game, but it has its shortcomings as well. Most importantly (to me) is the total lack of any point to PVP. WAR promises to fix this. Since none of us have played the final version of the game, it remains to be seen if Mythic comes through on that promise.
I can't believe this thread made it to 15 pages. You'd think some of these people would go play their game they are so passionate about and not bother with posts like this.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
K0rnfan4evr WHY do you abuse the HYPE-SYSTEM!!! for everybody's information he gave many games 1/10 just because he thinks it's funny and of course he did it to the Aion-hype. The flying system HAS got skills and its a NO GRINDING game and FFS it' underrated and you just are an IDIOT At least read some information instead of judging it because of the front page (which you obviously didn't see either) and Its no traditional fantasy MMO, its a fantasy MMORPG with ROLEPLAYING and fresh ideas, WHY do you think its funny to ruin the hypes your comment added to WAR would look something like this if you hated this game too: "Warhammer online is a rip of from WoW a complete copy with only instances like Guild Wars" Get information the next time you hype something. How would you feel if i posted this comment to WAR.?!
(i might buy this game when/if i stop playing Aion, don't be angry at me(except for the Kornfan.).)
The world is full of douche nozzles like the one mentioned above. It's not much different then the every day trolls that come in here and spout nonsense and start threads like this.
I little bit of reading and research would have gone a long way in informing the OP, thus not making a thread that eventually degraded to this point.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
The world is full of douche nozzles like the one mentioned above. It's not much different then the every day trolls that come in here and spout nonsense and start threads like this. I little bit of reading and research would have gone a long way in informing the OP, thus not making a thread that eventually degraded to this point.
You just won the award for grossest thing to call someone. That is visually the worst thing I've heard in a long time. ha
Nothing productive need be added to this thread. It's about as productive as they get.
bunch of douche nozzles.
--------------------------------------------- I live to fight, and fight to live.
I think this game will be an ok game but this game seems kind of bland. Unless you are a fan of Warhammer I don't see anything to get majorly excited about. I wish them well though because the more successful a game is the more options gamers have to choose from.
If WAR decides to listen to what people dont like about WOW and attempt to correct the mistakes. Even if its the same game and they just do that, It's a license to print money.
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Yeah I did. When Climax were making the Original Warhammer Online about 7/8 years back.
Not to mention, WAR has quite a lot of unique gameplay ideas. Do your research and you'll find them.
And you can only call War a WoW rip-off if you think that it is a rip-off by being in the same genre.
i havnt heard any wow fanboi say anything becides that WAR has dwarfs and orcs for the argument of WAR stole everything from WOW, there isnt one thing WAR has the same thing of as WOW becides the stuff WOW stole from DAOC and EQ
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011
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Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Waiting on: Earthrise
Names: Citio, Goldie, Sportacus
Denny Did it.
I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad, The dreams in which I'm dieing are the best I've ever had.
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I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad, The dreams in which I'm dieing are the best I've ever had.
Knowledge>All
WoW is ripping off WAR and not the other way around. WoW copied WAR, nuff said.
DAoC had dwarves, blue skined elves vs pale skined elves ,Trolls, an ET looking race with tentacles hanging off his face, an auction house, battlegrounds, goblinoids named kobalds and was out before wow. Therefore WoW copied off DAoC if we use this logic.
What exactly did WoW steal from WAR? (I don't mean warhammer lore, I mean specifically what you said : WAR)
Does it really matter, folks? I always wondered why there are discussions about this, and it usually never ends! Remember, there is actually no need to explain that WAR is not like WoW, because the ones who doesn't get it, won't get it. There will always be someone saying that WAR looks like WoW, even after that it has been explained. And there have been better discussions which has proven a lot that WAR is not like WoW. And no, I won't explain why, because I know that there will STILL be some folks saying that WAR looks like WoW (true facts!).
I usually never post, though, but I just had to post this.
Alright, to the folks who won't and still won't get it: If you think that WAR looks like WoW, then why bother to post something meaningless? Just play whatever game you want, we don't care about what you think about WAR. If you like WoW, play WoW or whatever. Just don't post meaningless posts and play your games.
I am really looking forward to play WAR. It's so promising!
Ive Played WAR and its nothing like wow, really fun game so far.
After i read the title, i laughed really hard, so hard that i almost smiled.
DAOC was the first (yet i still dont like it) then came WoW, now mythic (the original creator of DAOC) is using their engine to create WAR. Are allt hese games alike? Yes, just different models, textures, fonts, and skill names.
I think its a shame WoW earned so much cash just cause of the blizzard name, but at least their actually putting some time into creating more of the same raids and adding in more things that is actually making people pummel more money into this steam engine. I just hope they make better games with all that dough comin in.
WIth WAR online I promise you wont see anything new, just customized. But have fun nonethe less and just cause im not playing it Im not going to say DONT PLAY IT. Just gonna say hopefully at some point or another i'll be able to kill you folks, no matter who you are, on the battlefields of Darkfall.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Can someone close this thread please?
Maybe I should just swear like a sailor and make all kinds of racial and religious comments to get a MMORPG.com staff response and they close this thread
Just kidding.
The thread title, a question: "Is WAR ripping off WoW?"
The FINAL answer-
Yes. And no.
Certain aspects yes, all games, movies, books, everything is influenced by that which came before it. Following that exact same chain of though, the answer to the question is also no.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
The big difference is I wont be doing hours upon hours of Boring pve loot raids. Say what you want ive played them both. just my opinion.
big difference wow is pve loot based. War is pvp based. They just look similer.
Actually no big difference.
Even goin back to DAOC. They all say PVP based, HAS OUTSTANDING PVP CONTENT. Its all BS.
WoW followed in DAOC footsteps by allowing players to go into those arenas and to fight others realms in combat, and even to invade other realms on their home turf. WoW did the same thing, yet DAOC is seen as more pvp based? ITems were basicaly the same in both games. So far I have heard nothing in WAR that tells me its 100% PVP skill based (meaning you dont need the highest ranked weapon in order to do any good).
I have heard nothing but very small differences between WAR and DAOC, and that goes with any mmorpg. Even WoW shows very few differences from DAOC. The only reason why WAR SHOULD get away with this is cause its made by the same creators as DAOC (mythic).
Again if you want a pvp based game, look at Darkfall online, shadowbane(basic concepts revolve around pvp), AoC, Asheron's Call (darktide).
The big difference is I wont be doing hours upon hours of Boring pve loot raids. Say what you want ive played them both. just my opinion.
I agree. I wouldnt do any type of raid that would take hours to do unless its on an enemies base, that I can actually destroy. Thats one of the very few things that kept me with SWG (pre-cu).
Infact im not boasting anything for WoW I really think its a bad game, but my opinion is I dont think we're going to see much different in WAR other than maybe actually gaining levels off of PVP. But how different will tehy be? Of course every game that comes out have similar things with a few things changed, we have seen that countless amount of times since DAOC was released (WoW, SUN, Dragon9, EQ2, fury). My question is other than the games that are taking forever to develop what will come out that not only breaks from the mold but holds true to what htey promise
good god. it doesnt matter.
the wheel of time ripped off dune, aiel / fremen, but they're both good series.
Honestly, what does it matter? It can be argued that WOW got many of its concepts and ideas from the Warhammer tabletop game. Many games use the same engine. For example, there are tons of games that use the Unreal engine. As for as the exclamation marks, well, Lineage 2 uses them, too. Lineage 2 came out well before WOW. I guess WOW copied Lineage 2. Since when is an exclamation mark intellectual property? It's not a matter of a game being original. In fact - in basic terms - there's nothing in WOW that hasn't been done in a game before. It's HOW it's done that made WOW successful. WOW is a great game, but it has its shortcomings as well. Most importantly (to me) is the total lack of any point to PVP. WAR promises to fix this. Since none of us have played the final version of the game, it remains to be seen if Mythic comes through on that promise.
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I can't believe this thread made it to 15 pages. You'd think some of these people would go play their game they are so passionate about and not bother with posts like this.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
K0rnfan4evr WHY do you abuse the HYPE-SYSTEM!!! for everybody's information he gave many games 1/10 just because he thinks it's funny and of course he did it to the Aion-hype. The flying system HAS got skills and its a NO GRINDING game and FFS it' underrated and you just are an IDIOT At least read some information instead of judging it because of the front page (which you obviously didn't see either) and Its no traditional fantasy MMO, its a fantasy MMORPG with ROLEPLAYING and fresh ideas, WHY do you think its funny to ruin the hypes your comment added to WAR would look something like this if you hated this game too: "Warhammer online is a rip of from WoW a complete copy with only instances like Guild Wars" Get information the next time you hype something. How would you feel if i posted this comment to WAR.?!
(i might buy this game when/if i stop playing Aion, don't be angry at me(except for the Kornfan.).)
The world is full of douche nozzles like the one mentioned above. It's not much different then the every day trolls that come in here and spout nonsense and start threads like this.
I little bit of reading and research would have gone a long way in informing the OP, thus not making a thread that eventually degraded to this point.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Nothing productive need be added to this thread. It's about as productive as they get.
bunch of douche nozzles.
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I think this game will be an ok game but this game seems kind of bland. Unless you are a fan of Warhammer I don't see anything to get majorly excited about. I wish them well though because the more successful a game is the more options gamers have to choose from.
If WAR decides to listen to what people dont like about WOW and attempt to correct the mistakes. Even if its the same game and they just do that, It's a license to print money.
What can i say..... im just looking forward to it
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