I really hope this game is coming out, trust me, I think it'd be wonderful.. But I really don't get how people cannot understand why so many believe it to be vaporware.. I really don't..
As for progress... yes... but there is a MAJOR difference between progress and rewriting your engine. Take a look at some of the early SS's they look like shadow bane. Now you look at the SS's and they look like vanguard. That isnt a change, thats a completely different engine.
How do you know that? I am pretty sure you have zero evidance to prove your point. Either way your point is not valid because graphix are always the last thing that developers worry about when creating a game from scratch because they know they can improve them in the long run.
And you're shifing your viewpoint, fist it was the screenshots not being good enough but when there is progress you try to discredit the engine as if somehow it's a crime for game developers to improve their graphix and optimize their engine.
I know that IGN and Warcry cover the game, however, my comment was specifically in relation to Asp the guy they had tour. If you want to make your community feel stronger in your game then you bring someone with a reputation... not some guy off the street.
People already seen the game in 2006 at the gaming convention, a playable demo and an article is already stickied so you can read it if you like on their website or search for it at either IGN or Warcry. You're shifing again, first it was no reliable info and when I pointed out IGN and Warcry then you try to bait me with LOD as if somehow Asp's preview is proving your point.
You're points are not valid at all, you're crashing and burning because you are a Troll.
As for my last paragraph, I was addressing dev blogs and features. Anyone can make a list of features.... that doesnt make it accurate or factual.
That's irreleveant, they have screenshots, vids previews, people played their game; the burden of proff is on you not on them since they already provided us with more then enough info. You have to prove that it's just TEXT or just a list of features, just like you would have to prove that Aventurine is a fake company and it does not exist. Or if you went on a rant and told me about DF being sold, so on and so forth you are trying to dsicredit the game and you are doing horribly because you are twisting the facts and the avaliable info that we do have.
Im not a troll, I hope the game will release one day as it has all the features I want. I started back in 97 with UO and really miss the game. However, Darkfall is rather widely known as vaporware and they didnt get that title randomly or with out reason.
I don't believe you, all trolls say that they HOPE and then they come here and start ranting about things that arent even true.
Does this mean Darkfall doesnt exist? No I think there is a version in some state on a pc somewhere being tested and coded. The issue is after 7 years they dont have much to show. THATS the problem.
They showed more in pre-beta then most gaming companies do, ohh and the 7 years is a stretch considering the development phase began in 2003. The burden of proff is on you like I said, you have to prove it to be vaporwere and I know for a fact that you can't.
As for progress... yes... but there is a MAJOR difference between progress and rewriting your engine. Take a look at some of the early SS's they look like shadow bane. Now you look at the SS's and they look like vanguard. That isnt a change, thats a completely different engine. How do you know that? I am pretty sure you have zero evidance to prove your point. Either way your point is not valid because graphix are always the last thing that developers worry about when creating a game from scratch because they know they can improve them in the long run. And you're shifing your viewpoint, fist it was the screenshots not being good enough but when there is progress you try to discredit the engine as if somehow it's a crime for game developers to improve their graphix and optimize their engine.
I know that IGN and Warcry cover the game, however, my comment was specifically in relation to Asp the guy they had tour. If you want to make your community feel stronger in your game then you bring someone with a reputation... not some guy off the street. People already seen the game in 2006 at the gaming convention, a playable demo and an article is already stickied so you can read it if you like on their website or search for it at either IGN or Warcry. You're shifing again, first it was no reliable info and when I pointed out IGN and Warcry then you try to bait me with LOD as if somehow Asp's preview is proving your point. You're points are not valid at all, you're crashing and burning because you are a Troll.
As for my last paragraph, I was addressing dev blogs and features. Anyone can make a list of features.... that doesnt make it accurate or factual. That's irreleveant, they have screenshots, vids previews, people played their game; the burden of proff is on you not on them since they already provided us with more then enough info. You have to prove that it's just TEXT or just a list of features, just like you would have to prove that Aventurine is a fake company and it does not exist. Or if you went on a rant and told me about DF being sold, so on and so forth you are trying to dsicredit the game and you are doing horribly because you are twisting the facts and the avaliable info that we do have.
Im not a troll, I hope the game will release one day as it has all the features I want. I started back in 97 with UO and really miss the game. However, Darkfall is rather widely known as vaporware and they didnt get that title randomly or with out reason. I don't believe you, all trolls say that they HOPE and then they come here and start ranting about things that arent even true.
Does this mean Darkfall doesnt exist? No I think there is a version in some state on a pc somewhere being tested and coded. The issue is after 7 years they dont have much to show. THATS the problem. They showed more in pre-beta then most gaming companies do, ohh and the 7 years is a stretch considering the development phase began in 2003. The burden of proff is on you like I said, you have to prove it to be vaporwere and I know for a fact that you can't.
Ok... Im a CS major, working on Game development...so yeah I do know. The screen shots they showed at the beginning are a completely different engine than the one they are using now. Thats the problem with taking so long on your game, by the time your ready to release you gotta upgrade to technological standards. But Darkfall suffers from much more than that.
As for the press... no my point originally was, you dont get joe blow off the street to review your game, you get a major press firm. A Playable Demo while nice, is not a MMO. Darkfall has a long way to go.
Actually... the burden of proof is with them. The majority of folks think that the game is vapor ware. Thats bad PR going to be hard to get investment money when everyone thinks your a black hole of funds.
You can think Im a troll if you like... Im a hardcore gamer thats been looking for a good game for years. Darkfall would be a good one... problem is... its taking far longer than any other mmo... and doesnt look promising.
Sure, I cant prove the game is vaporware... then again... you cant prove its not.
I'll bet most of you haters who posted here did not even see that stuff.
And yeah I totally agree with you dude .... Duke Nukem Forever is not easy to find
I just got out youtube links, I can get official ones too....
The thing is a lot of people DO NOT WANT to like Darkfall just because they heard some "omfg this guy has 1000+ posts he must know alot" say its vaporware.
I've never heard of a game taking so long to come to market. I thought WoW took a long time but doesn't this one beat it? Seems a little shady to me (still no expected release date). Keep in mind their income is $0.00 until this game hits the shelves. I mean, they have no other games generating income for them do they?
I've never heard of a game taking so long to come to market. I thought WoW took a long time but doesn't this one beat it? Seems a little shady to me (still no expected release date). Keep in mind their income is $0.00 until this game hits the shelves. I mean, they have no other games generating income for them do they?
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
Are we supposed to be impressed by these very, very average videos ? The animation in the game sucks bad from what i was able to see.
The video that was released at the beginning of this year was well done and looked great. Granted it's from an older build but it shows PVP, Mounted combat, Naval COmbat I was impressed and to me it looked good even though it was an alpha vid.
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Learn to read btw, he said 27.
Anyway... 27 Million is MORE than surplus for the next 3 years, and with that im including salaries, promos, advertising, etc etc.
How much did it cost to make Tabula Rasa, total? You sir - got owned.
I've never heard of a game taking so long to come to market. I thought WoW took a long time but doesn't this one beat it? Seems a little shady to me (still no expected release date). Keep in mind their income is $0.00 until this game hits the shelves. I mean, they have no other games generating income for them do they?
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
All I'm saying is that 8 years is a long time to get a MMO to the shelves. Was it "next generation" 8 years ago or is it still next generation?
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
I've never heard of a game taking so long to come to market. I thought WoW took a long time but doesn't this one beat it? Seems a little shady to me (still no expected release date). Keep in mind their income is $0.00 until this game hits the shelves. I mean, they have no other games generating income for them do they?
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
All I'm saying is that 8 years is a long time to get a MMO to the shelves. Was it "next generation" 8 years ago or is it still next generation?
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Plus the development im PRETTY sure did not start till 02 ...
You guys think .."OH LETS MAKE A GAME. OK GET TO WORK NUBS" .... well you're mistaken, it takes ALOT of time to figure things out, discuss the features and how to go about them etc etc...
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Can't get blood from a stone
Thank you for the proverb but i fail to see how that applies here.
The Problem is not Darkfall, the thing here to understand that there are many people some of whom are paid that are trying to discredit this game and have been doing so from the beginning. Seriously there's more then enough info on this game and the features it has, god knows how many interviews, houndreds of screenshots and 5 official movies. The info has been pouring out over the years and the game is still in development, I don't know of any other company that offered this much info prior to closed beta not 1. And yet people keep showing up on forums and saying how vids, info, dev updates, feature list, screenshots don't matter. We have people coming in and impersonating other people, telling lies about how DF Developers tried to sell their game, spreading rumors about the company not being a real company, about how there are no real offices in Greece, telling lies about trademark ownership. We even experianced Age of Conan Developers harassing Darkfall and it's staff and posting bullshit on their forums. I can go on and on but I wont. It is complete hilarity to believe that something does not exist when in fact it was proven countless times that it does.
You know Ubber....this sounds very tin-foil hat like. You accuse people of an organized campaign to discredit DF, call them liars, trolls (oh how you love to throw that word around) and say that they have an "agenda"
I'm trying to figure out what your agenda is as well. I just went back and read all your posts...and you have a strange posting pattern. Your grammer/diction changes noticeably, almost as if you aren't the same person writing your posts.
You also come and go to the forums. You've posted more in the past 3 days than you did in the prior 3 months.
You seem upset that people attack DF, but in many of your earlier posts this year you had no problem attacking VG, LotRO and a few other games. But I will give you credit for being consistent in one area...you have been an ardent defender of DF.... they should consider giving you a knighthood or something for being such a good defender of the faith.
I mean,i know you like DF...but why the passion? People could as easily accuse you of being a paid agent (and you certainly fit the fanboi description)... but they don't......
In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of the doubters or supporters post about DF.... it will either come out or it won't...and it will either be good or it won't.....
In the meantime.... people will continue to speculate, discuss, and yes, I guess outright fabricate information about DF.... for better or worse...
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I bet 50% of the haters, after Darkfall is released (whenever that is, I just hope its soon), are gonna start playing it and fall in love with it.
Oh and as a side thought, I do think a new Ultima Online using the Unreal 3 engine (lol,i love that engine ) or something comes out with all the same features, just some added better stuff and kinda like FPSish or something. That would rock.
This is the first I have ever seen on this game. Just because a game has a video on YouTube doesn’t mean it’s coming out. Anyone remember Ultima Online 2?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Can't get blood from a stone
Thank you for the proverb but i fail to see how that applies here.
Anyways this little piece of info isnt news and has been around for quite a while.
It applies very well in fact. You said that the financial backers would get their money back, well not if it's been spent they won't. Yeah, they can liquidate the company and all assets, but in the end I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that they would recover even 1/4 of their investment if the game never ships.
Also, I've done more research and I have to rebut the claims that one guy made about there being a playable demo at a game show in '06. It seems that there was indeed, some sort of playable demo at a video game trade show back in '06, but it seems that there must not have been any game journalists there b/c I can't find a single major game publication/website that talks about playing, or even witnessing the demo being played. In fact, a search of the OFFICIAL Darkfall site doesn't mention this playable demo in '06 except in a Warcry Dev Journal where it just gives the print-out of what seems to be a demo-factsheet/manual card. The ONLY time someone actually playing the game on the Darkfall site is for this Asp who is no journalist or game industry professional, the man seems to be a guild leader...who could be a friend of one of the devs.
The point I am trying to make, and one of the things that really makes me wonder about Darkfall is the fact that no impartial journalist or media professional has ever witnessed or played the game and made the information readily available to the public. And I don't care what you say, that is not the norm and gives reason to take a step back and wonder.
Like I said, Darkfall as it is made out to be on it's website sounds like the game has a shit-ton of potential and would be a game that I would love to jump into. But until I see some real proof, I have to remain a skeptical and can't throw my hat in with the Darkfall fanboys.
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You guys WORRY way to MUCH.................
put ur faith in them if they worked that HARD and this LONG why would they QUIT......
DARKFALL WILL BE COMEING OUT STOP WORRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really hope this game is coming out, trust me, I think it'd be wonderful.. But I really don't get how people cannot understand why so many believe it to be vaporware.. I really don't..
As for progress... yes... but there is a MAJOR difference between progress and rewriting your engine. Take a look at some of the early SS's they look like shadow bane. Now you look at the SS's and they look like vanguard. That isnt a change, thats a completely different engine.
How do you know that? I am pretty sure you have zero evidance to prove your point. Either way your point is not valid because graphix are always the last thing that developers worry about when creating a game from scratch because they know they can improve them in the long run.
And you're shifing your viewpoint, fist it was the screenshots not being good enough but when there is progress you try to discredit the engine as if somehow it's a crime for game developers to improve their graphix and optimize their engine.
I know that IGN and Warcry cover the game, however, my comment was specifically in relation to Asp the guy they had tour. If you want to make your community feel stronger in your game then you bring someone with a reputation... not some guy off the street.
People already seen the game in 2006 at the gaming convention, a playable demo and an article is already stickied so you can read it if you like on their website or search for it at either IGN or Warcry. You're shifing again, first it was no reliable info and when I pointed out IGN and Warcry then you try to bait me with LOD as if somehow Asp's preview is proving your point.
You're points are not valid at all, you're crashing and burning because you are a Troll.
As for my last paragraph, I was addressing dev blogs and features. Anyone can make a list of features.... that doesnt make it accurate or factual.
That's irreleveant, they have screenshots, vids previews, people played their game; the burden of proff is on you not on them since they already provided us with more then enough info. You have to prove that it's just TEXT or just a list of features, just like you would have to prove that Aventurine is a fake company and it does not exist. Or if you went on a rant and told me about DF being sold, so on and so forth you are trying to dsicredit the game and you are doing horribly because you are twisting the facts and the avaliable info that we do have.
Im not a troll, I hope the game will release one day as it has all the features I want. I started back in 97 with UO and really miss the game. However, Darkfall is rather widely known as vaporware and they didnt get that title randomly or with out reason.
I don't believe you, all trolls say that they HOPE and then they come here and start ranting about things that arent even true.
Does this mean Darkfall doesnt exist? No I think there is a version in some state on a pc somewhere being tested and coded. The issue is after 7 years they dont have much to show. THATS the problem.
They showed more in pre-beta then most gaming companies do, ohh and the 7 years is a stretch considering the development phase began in 2003. The burden of proff is on you like I said, you have to prove it to be vaporwere and I know for a fact that you can't.
As for the press... no my point originally was, you dont get joe blow off the street to review your game, you get a major press firm. A Playable Demo while nice, is not a MMO. Darkfall has a long way to go.
Actually... the burden of proof is with them. The majority of folks think that the game is vapor ware. Thats bad PR going to be hard to get investment money when everyone thinks your a black hole of funds.
You can think Im a troll if you like... Im a hardcore gamer thats been looking for a good game for years. Darkfall would be a good one... problem is... its taking far longer than any other mmo... and doesnt look promising.
Sure, I cant prove the game is vaporware... then again... you cant prove its not.
So shall we agree to disagree?
Believe what you want, as I said we can agree to disagree.
In a year or so we will know who was right.
Are we supposed to be impressed by these very, very average videos ? The animation in the game sucks bad from what i was able to see.
That was about 4 years ago. They have gone through a couple of graphical updates and such so I would imagine they would be better than that now.
I wonder how many graphical updates they will have gone through by the time they release the game, in 2107.
Its going to look good compared to now thats for sure.
I'll bet most of you haters who posted here did not even see that stuff.
And yeah I totally agree with you dude .... Duke Nukem Forever is not easy to find
I just got out youtube links, I can get official ones too....
The thing is a lot of people DO NOT WANT to like Darkfall just because they heard some "omfg this guy has 1000+ posts he must know alot" say its vaporware.
I've never heard of a game taking so long to come to market. I thought WoW took a long time but doesn't this one beat it? Seems a little shady to me (still no expected release date). Keep in mind their income is $0.00 until this game hits the shelves. I mean, they have no other games generating income for them do they?
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
OMG ultima online 2!!!! my heart breaks just thinking about it.
Are we supposed to be impressed by these very, very average videos ? The animation in the game sucks bad from what i was able to see.
The video that was released at the beginning of this year was well done and looked great. Granted it's from an older build but it shows PVP, Mounted combat, Naval COmbat I was impressed and to me it looked good even though it was an alpha vid.
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Learn to read btw, he said 27.
Anyway... 27 Million is MORE than surplus for the next 3 years, and with that im including salaries, promos, advertising, etc etc.
How much did it cost to make Tabula Rasa, total? You sir - got owned.
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
All I'm saying is that 8 years is a long time to get a MMO to the shelves. Was it "next generation" 8 years ago or is it still next generation?
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Trying to compare WoW's timeframe to DF would be like comparing a house's to a mansion's. DF has some wealthy investors and has done some past work for the greek military.
All I'm saying is that 8 years is a long time to get a MMO to the shelves. Was it "next generation" 8 years ago or is it still next generation?
2007-2001=6. about 6-7 years.
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Can't get blood from a stone
Plus the development im PRETTY sure did not start till 02 ...
You guys think .."OH LETS MAKE A GAME. OK GET TO WORK NUBS" .... well you're mistaken, it takes ALOT of time to figure things out, discuss the features and how to go about them etc etc...
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Can't get blood from a stone
Thank you for the proverb but i fail to see how that applies here.
http://www.iflr1000.com/default.asp?page=48&CH=3&CountryID=41&tcCountry=41&tcTitleID=81 (Dam the links not working)
Anyways this little piece of info isnt news and has been around for quite a while.
You know Ubber....this sounds very tin-foil hat like. You accuse people of an organized campaign to discredit DF, call them liars, trolls (oh how you love to throw that word around) and say that they have an "agenda"
I'm trying to figure out what your agenda is as well. I just went back and read all your posts...and you have a strange posting pattern. Your grammer/diction changes noticeably, almost as if you aren't the same person writing your posts.
You also come and go to the forums. You've posted more in the past 3 days than you did in the prior 3 months.
You seem upset that people attack DF, but in many of your earlier posts this year you had no problem attacking VG, LotRO and a few other games. But I will give you credit for being consistent in one area...you have been an ardent defender of DF.... they should consider giving you a knighthood or something for being such a good defender of the faith.
I mean,i know you like DF...but why the passion? People could as easily accuse you of being a paid agent (and you certainly fit the fanboi description)... but they don't......
In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of the doubters or supporters post about DF.... it will either come out or it won't...and it will either be good or it won't.....
In the meantime.... people will continue to speculate, discuss, and yes, I guess outright fabricate information about DF.... for better or worse...
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I bet 50% of the haters, after Darkfall is released (whenever that is, I just hope its soon), are gonna start playing it and fall in love with it.
Oh and as a side thought, I do think a new Ultima Online using the Unreal 3 engine (lol,i love that engine
) or something comes out with all the same features, just some added better stuff and kinda like FPSish or something. That would rock.
Would a 27 million dollar loan for the game change you mind?
haha how u know that 26 mill is not going into someone's pocket and u think 26 mill is enough to develope the next best pvp game?
Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken.
Can't get blood from a stone
Thank you for the proverb but i fail to see how that applies here.
http://www.iflr1000.com/default.asp?page=48&CH=3&CountryID=41&tcCountry=41&tcTitleID=81 (Dam the links not working)
Anyways this little piece of info isnt news and has been around for quite a while.
It applies very well in fact. You said that the financial backers would get their money back, well not if it's been spent they won't. Yeah, they can liquidate the company and all assets, but in the end I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that they would recover even 1/4 of their investment if the game never ships.Also, I've done more research and I have to rebut the claims that one guy made about there being a playable demo at a game show in '06. It seems that there was indeed, some sort of playable demo at a video game trade show back in '06, but it seems that there must not have been any game journalists there b/c I can't find a single major game publication/website that talks about playing, or even witnessing the demo being played. In fact, a search of the OFFICIAL Darkfall site doesn't mention this playable demo in '06 except in a Warcry Dev Journal where it just gives the print-out of what seems to be a demo-factsheet/manual card. The ONLY time someone actually playing the game on the Darkfall site is for this Asp who is no journalist or game industry professional, the man seems to be a guild leader...who could be a friend of one of the devs.
The point I am trying to make, and one of the things that really makes me wonder about Darkfall is the fact that no impartial journalist or media professional has ever witnessed or played the game and made the information readily available to the public. And I don't care what you say, that is not the norm and gives reason to take a step back and wonder.
Like I said, Darkfall as it is made out to be on it's website sounds like the game has a shit-ton of potential and would be a game that I would love to jump into. But until I see some real proof, I have to remain a skeptical and can't throw my hat in with the Darkfall fanboys.