What can we say, some people like ThompsonSub just loves to be miserable, instead of enjoying another MMO they actualy like they have to come troll games they hate and bash it for nothing, wasting there time and feeling like the world let them down. What cant we do, they just have no other reason in life, maybe there just lonely and feel that troll a game is the best way to connect with people, I mean look we respond to them so they come back for more they crave that attention.
Its a shame they just enjoy misery more than having fun. Personnaly I prefer to just move on and have fun where I actualy having fun it makes more sense dont you think
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amusing how so many people try to say this game isn't a total turd yet every single thread is full of deleted posts and people totally dissing on it. for every single post that is deleted on this site i just think someone said something true, they kinda add up to "no really this game does infact suck despite rabid fans".
i think the main reason we (as a bunch of people whos posts get deleted) are bashing it so hard is we wouldnt want to see people actually believe the B.S. you fantards are spitting out and waste $ on the game which might in turn make NC soft think they did something right.
even if this was the best game to come out all year (nuh-uh, no way, not even if i was on acid meth and your mom all @ once) it doesnt make up for the fact that its the worst year for online gaming in a decade.
amusing how so many people try to say this game isn't a total turd yet every single thread is full of deleted posts and people totally dissing on it. for every single post that is deleted on this site i just think someone said something true, they kinda add up to "no really this game does infact suck despite rabid fans". i think the main reason we (as a bunch of people whos posts get deleted) are bashing it so hard is we wouldnt want to see people actually believe the B.S. you fantards are spitting out and waste $ on the game which might in turn make NC soft think they did something right. even if this was the best game to come out all year (nuh-uh, no way, not even if i was on acid meth and your mom all @ once) it doesnt make up for the fact that its the worst year for online gaming in a decade.
Whether its a bad year for Online gaming is irrelevant to this topic. Please do not try and convince us that all the negative posts are to warn innocents not to waste their money. Constant negative posting, over and over on the same topic is trolling. period. State your case and move on to a game that you ARE interested in. People aren't that stupid. They will read your post and consider it, however when we see constant negatives we begin to think some have an agenda, and its not really to protect the consumer, more as its their ego and hurt feelings they are expressing by bashing the game. Anyone that "Protests too much" on internet forums is usually just a troll suspect and reading their weak arguments usually confirms it. Move on and just let it go man. Try and Enjoy your day.
amusing how so many people try to say this game isn't a total turd yet every single thread is full of deleted posts and people totally dissing on it. for every single post that is deleted on this site i just think someone said something true, they kinda add up to "no really this game does infact suck despite rabid fans". i think the main reason we (as a bunch of people whos posts get deleted) are bashing it so hard is we wouldnt want to see people actually believe the B.S. you fantards are spitting out and waste $ on the game which might in turn make NC soft think they did something right. even if this was the best game to come out all year (nuh-uh, no way, not even if i was on acid meth and your mom all @ once) it doesnt make up for the fact that its the worst year for online gaming in a decade.
This game is fun...it may not be the answer to my mmo prayers, but it is enjoyable for the time being. I am really not sure what your true purpose is in this forum, but it is obvious you need a new outlet. NCsoft developed a GAME...alot of people are playing this GAME and acutally enjoying themselves. Is that not the point of a GAME? You should seriously go splash some water on your face and try figure out why you can't seem to come to terms with the fact that people are acutally content playing this game and why you are taking this so seriously. The high amount of stress and resentment the success or failure a video game you dont even play fiils you with, should be a wake up call to for you to seriously step away.
I think some of you guys are missing the point of the post that set this soon to be flame war ablaze. It's not a matter of looking to the future of what a game will become. It's myopic to say that you enjoy a game for what it is and gladly hand over your monthly sub without a care in the world as to the quality and longevity of the game. The happy go lucky, "the game is fun now" mantra works great for stand alone single player games that just have a box cost, but that same philosophy falls short in so far as MMORPGs are concerned. Furthermore, it's this kind of mentality that has brought about the horrible current trend of shallow MMORPGs. If any game genre should be filled with depth and complexity it should be the MMORPG. MMORPGs are too expensive to be shallow, and as long as we the consumer pay for sub par games that have no lasting appeal, people will keep making sub par games with no lasting apeal.
Congratulations on acheiving 2 things
1. Pointing out the one truth to a group of people who very desperately need to hear it and take it in.
2. Making the most sensible post in the TR section to date.
This industry will not advance at all and will certainly never reach its potential to deliver the next level of interactive entertainment, if companies keep producing this half baked garbage and consumers keep buying it.
Well done !!
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I think some of you guys are missing the point of the post that set this soon to be flame war ablaze. It's not a matter of looking to the future of what a game will become. It's myopic to say that you enjoy a game for what it is and gladly hand over your monthly sub without a care in the world as to the quality and longevity of the game. The happy go lucky, "the game is fun now" mantra works great for stand alone single player games that just have a box cost, but that same philosophy falls short in so far as MMORPGs are concerned. Furthermore, it's this kind of mentality that has brought about the horrible current trend of shallow MMORPGs. If any game genre should be filled with depth and complexity it should be the MMORPG. MMORPGs are too expensive to be shallow, and as long as we the consumer pay for sub par games that have no lasting appeal, people will keep making sub par games with no lasting apeal.
Actually I think YOU are missing the point.
I have had a BALL since purchasing and playing TR and I haven't had a MMO for a long time actually make me cant wait to be able to log in again.
I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Just because you think it is sub-standard and shallow etc is just your opinion. If you don't like it then stop subscribing and move on to another game.
Others like myself are really enjoying it and that IS what matters and makes me pay my monthly subscription. If I felt it wasn't worth it then I would stop subscribing.
I don't consider MMOs to be expensive. If you can't get $15 worth of fun from it in a MONTH then stop. I've lost count how single player games I have bought and tired with after a few weeks. I've never had that problem with MMOs. It is the boxed single player games that are expensive in my opinion.
Anyway, TR is fun for me RIGHT NOW. I don't care about the end game content RIGHT NOW as I am not at the end game yet and probably wont be for a long time (if I get there at all). By then they will have added the end game content but if they haven't then I will unsubscribe THEN not now.
And since it is fun for me right now I am more than happy to fork over my monthly subscription to play.
I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
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I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
Well I have played MMOs since as far back as UO so I don't fit into your generalisation. I've played quite a lot of MMOs thank you.
By not liking FPS games I meant that I generally dont like games where you run about shooting things with guns. I've tried a few that my son plays avidly but they just don't 'do it' for me. TR does.
You are talking about 'sucked in' like being sucked in by hype and shiny features. I talk about being sucked in by gameplay and immersion. Again for me TR does that.
I *like* TR, I am having fun playing TR so I don't mind paying for it.
For me, if I like it, then it is "good". It may not fit your opinion of "good" but you are as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
I say to NCSoft and Richard Garriott a resounding Well Done! and I hope to see more like it.
I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
FALSE,
i'm a GAMER for over 25+ years now, i play allot of different type of games, last week bought Crysis, hell of a good game, but sort of lacks something really new, feels a bit like Splintercell/Stalker in the Jungle, but other then that i do enjoy and have fun with the game. Before that i bought Bioshock, also a very nice game, but very very short and not really challeging, but visualy and game wise still a very enjoyeble game. Probebly will pickup Cod4 and UT3 this week, perhaps even today (my day off) not sure though if UT3 is here already...........
So the only one confused is you.........Tabula Rasa is a good MMO, not so a MMORPG but a good MMO, also not great, but sorry not that much choice, i mean HGL ...nah ...might be fun for some ...not me, but i see no need to bash that game just because i didn't really like or enjoy it.
Keep in mind many people ARE GAMERS and not so shallow as some of you are..sorry to say...but you clearly have a very limited view upon gamers as your reactions proofs that.
Then i read the games you seem to compare it to, sorry i played them , can not compare them, but then i am a gamer and judge games on what there is to play.
All in all your reaction is that of a NEWCOMER and definitly not from someone REALLY into games.
I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
actually, based on the highlighted text above, it sounds like you havn't even played TR. The combat system is NOTHING like the games you've mentioned. I played AO for 3 years, and off and on to this day. I put a good 6+ months into Neocron, and several years into SWG, in all it's incarnations.
People LIKE TR, and are going to buy it and play it. No amount of trolling / ranting is going to change that.
It's one of the three games I play right now, because it satisfies the need for a futuristic war-game. The intense, fast-paced TR is unique among the MMO genre, and a breath of fresh air, IMO.
If you don't like TR than please feel free to crawl back to WoW or wallow in your SWG tears. I've played five or six MMOs in my time, liked preCU SWG the best (it's not even a contest), but I'm already enjoying TR more than I ever enjoyed SWG sans JtL play.
TR is like what I would have wanted for the GCW in SWG and that's what I view it as, the GCW minus everything else and that's fine by me. I don't see why people feel the need to rape the game and insult those who play it. The solution is simply: stfu and don't buy it. Wow, I should get a medal.
TR is like what I would have wanted for the GCW in SWG and that's what I view it as, the GCW minus everything else and that's fine by me. I don't see why people feel the need to rape the game and insult those who play it. The solution is simply: stfu and don't buy it. Wow, I should get a medal.
It seems to me that TR is what SOE wanted with the nge, but failed to get. The fast paced combat and semi-fps targeting. Garroitt nailed it and SOE is on dev team number 10 trying to figure it out still.
TR is like what I would have wanted for the GCW in SWG and that's what I view it as, the GCW minus everything else and that's fine by me. I don't see why people feel the need to rape the game and insult those who play it. The solution is simply: stfu and don't buy it. Wow, I should get a medal.
It seems to me that TR is what SOE wanted with the nge, but failed to get. The fast paced combat and semi-fps targeting. Garroitt nailed it and SOE is on dev team number 10 trying to figure it out still.
And yes you get a medal!
Now lets hope they add some stuff that SWG does have (done good or bad, the ideas are sound) and put some space battles and such lol. Made this thread awhile back and I'm still having fun, so I think I'll be continuing my subs for at least another month. this game is still on the ground floor, I can't imagine what new additions will bring, can't wait either.
Awesome. I was really skeptical after playing the beta early on, but a lot of my fears have been eliminated. Combat is a blast, movement and animation is great, the feeling of being in the middle of a war is felt everywhere (well, at least up till level 5 lol) So, I'm glad I didnt listen to the nay sayers, because I'm having a real good time so far, I dont even feel the need to level quickly as in every other mmo i've played, and thats refreshing.
It's easy to get all dewey over a new game, of any type, during the first few fractions of time. Come back and tell us how it is after you have level capped, if you ever do. Then, come back 3 months after that and tell us if you are still even playing.
That, Sir, is the hallmark of a good game for you. First impressions really don't count for anything. In MMORPGs, it is the long haul game that is important.
Good Hunting
Hope it holds up for you
To each their own
For me, having fun in the moment is far more inportant than anything at any games level cap.
For me, the end game is truly about 5% of the overall value of a game. It's the journey, and in TR the Journey is a complete blast
3 months of playing and the journey here is every bit as fun as a game could possibly be for me.
If I reach level cap and the game is no longer fun, I will easily move on and not ever regret the fun that I had along the way. It will still be a great game no matter how you break it down
Hey, I haven't commented on TR since Beta, which in my opinion was a trav to what an MMO should be, especially from where it was coming from (RG). Truthfully, I expected a sandbox, instead (in beta) I got an anti-sandbox, with a combat system which is a complete mirror of NGE:SWG. I am really glad you are having a blast, but I could never have a blast in that system. I will look back on this game in 6 months or so, and I am marking you in particular. If you are still about at level cap saying you have your spread, I'll consider the game. From It's previous form it had nothing to do but improve, it had a long way to go from what they advertised two clicks ago.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
amusing how so many people try to say this game isn't a total turd yet every single thread is full of deleted posts and people totally dissing on it. for every single post that is deleted on this site i just think someone said something true, they kinda add up to "no really this game does infact suck despite rabid fans". i think the main reason we (as a bunch of people whos posts get deleted) are bashing it so hard is we wouldnt want to see people actually believe the B.S. you fantards are spitting out and waste $ on the game which might in turn make NC soft think they did something right. even if this was the best game to come out all year (nuh-uh, no way, not even if i was on acid meth and your mom all @ once) it doesnt make up for the fact that its the worst year for online gaming in a decade.
What I find amusing is that people who bash the game do not bash the game but the player base. You know - even if it is a horrible game, you are not going to win any arguments or convince people that the game is bad by name-calling or insulting those of us who actually like the game. So what if we do? To each his own and if you like or dislike the game, its your choice.
This is why the posts are deleted. Your logic that "all the posts are bad therefore the game must be bad" is inductive and faulty at best. The real reason all those threads are deleted are because people who don't like the game feel the need (for some reason) to insult those who do like it. Therefore, the threads are a violation of the ToS and deleted.
I also would like to comment on the "worst year for online gaming in a decade". If you are talking this year specfically, then you must have not paid attention. WOW BC, LOTRO, EQ2 and EQ expansion, and Tabula Rasa to me show its has been a good year. If you want to throw out the semi-mmo's like Guild Wars and Hellgate, then it has been a great year.
Now if you want to talk about diversity and such as it relates to the mmo market, I think you have a case. What we have seen in the market is a dumbing-down of mmo's. For example, people want instant gratification so "easy-button" mmo's come out. If EQ launched today, it would do horrible. People would hate the death penalty and haiving to run get your corpse. Many of us old-school vets wouldn't mind playing a game like that, but since now the market is driven by subscriber numbers (look at all the threads through all these forums related to how many people play the game - especially LOTRO) you can tell its all about maximizing your subscriber base. This is why games are so easy and accessible now.
This is one thing I love about TR. It has a bit of a leveling curve (and its why I left WOW - even leveling now is so easy in WOW that it took away that sense of accomplishment I felt when I first hit 60 in December 2004). TR doesn't lay everything out for you, it makes you work for stuff and guess sometimes. Its not perfect but I enjoy it.
So let me make this plea to Megaflux and anyone else who hates TR: Write a well-reasoned post about why you don't like it, don't resort to name calling (like fantards) and I promise you I will respond in a well-reasoned manner while respecting your opinions. I think thats what all of us who like TR are saying and why we get so upset when people treat us like we stupid for liking what we like.
Glad I read the last paragraph, you know the one where you got done insulting everyone who finds this game insulting? (Yes, I am insulted that this is the only release I cared about over the thin past year).
1) You hit 60 in WoW in 2004. Join the millions. Sorry, that will be my only WoW bash. It does not, however, display a schwerve on these forums. We've all played WoW, 8 bazillion people on these forums played WoW. Wow, cl60 in 04. You Badass you.
2) TR. Why didn't some of us like it? 1) Complete NGE:SWG combat system. A complete and utter copy, although it was just as good (IE Trash). If you want to make a Sci-Fi MMO, you cannot make it under the same auspice as the most recent tragedy. I don't know what they were thinking other than, "Hey SOE had a great idea but they fumbled it, let's make the same thing and get it RIGHT!" The problem is, there was no way to get that right. SWG is actually a pretty smooth system at this point, the problem is, the system was fundamentally flawed to start with (in the NGE). They copied it, hook, line, and 2 ton sinker. You will get no, mark it ZERO sympathy on these forums for doing so. Plus, the game I mentioned before, is 4 years old and still four times deeper than the TR launch. They have the same combat system, but they also have open areas, 9 worlds, space (see ships), player housing, useful non-combat professions, and a sense of group and community...not to even mention real PvP (which I HATE to say), and an impressive, scalable engine to boot (see, "I can look however I wish"). So TR has the combat system we all hate with zero frills.
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain. I am just smart enough not to repeat past mistakes, because I can say this, the game fails, or it changes, then fails. It's a rock, and I am looking forward to the notice (AA) NCSoft gives in 6 months announcing L2 requires more revenue, so this one needed scrapped.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain. I am just smart enough not to repeat past mistakes, because I can say this, the game fails, or it changes, then fails. It's a rock, and I am looking forward to the notice (AA) NCSoft gives in 6 months announcing L2 requires more revenue, so this one needed scrapped.
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Short of the game God himself is making, Darkfall, I've seen no game on this site get anything but flamed in forums. Seriously, you guys should just stop playing games. You hate all of them, hate the designers, the publishers and anyone that plays them. They're all stupid and everyone that plays them is stupid and it's all just so stupid that the developers dont' just hire your bitching, whining asses to make your uber game so it can hit the market, crash, burn and you can blame every other stupid person involved that your idea wasn't realized. Boohoohoo, boohoo.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain. I am just smart enough not to repeat past mistakes, because I can say this, the game fails, or it changes, then fails. It's a rock, and I am looking forward to the notice (AA) NCSoft gives in 6 months announcing L2 requires more revenue, so this one needed scrapped.
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Anyone else here insane?
The question was to make a logical argument, it was made. That argument being that this game is a copy of a game already shunned by experienced gamers (and for a reason). It is a copy of the worst sci-fi revision in MMO history, without the elements that made it a good game from the start.
If you want to release a sci-fi MMO, ground based right now, do NOT make it pseudo-fps if you want it to succeed. Chose a side, turn or FPS. Because the pseudo is SWG, the only predecessor I can think of being Neocron (which no one plays). If you are going to choose the former (pseudo) then make it fit into a larger element than your predecessor (SWG), in other words, make the game better in all aspects! With all the time they blew, why isn't this game better than current SWG? Why doesn't it look better? Why aren't character models more mod'able, why isn't there a crafting system to salute, why aren't there better constructs for communities, why wasn't a pvp system considered, why is a game as shunned as SWG even a comparison point for this one when this was released 4 years later, with twice the experience on staff (hello, Richard)?
No, you are not insane. You are having a good time. Those of us who have had a "good time" in several MMO's left pretty quickly after our trial (or 30 key) ran out. I simply think this heap could have been better than a good time. With a little development imagination, it could have been great.
It just, isn't, and shadows it's former.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Short of the game God himself is making, Darkfall, I've seen no game on this site get anything but flamed in forums. Seriously, you guys should just stop playing games. You hate all of them, hate the designers, the publishers and anyone that plays them. They're all stupid and everyone that plays them is stupid and it's all just so stupid that the developers dont' just hire your bitching, whining asses to make your uber game so it can hit the market, crash, burn and you can blame every other stupid person involved that your idea wasn't realized. Boohoohoo, boohoo.
Wow. That's just stupid.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain. I am just smart enough not to repeat past mistakes, because I can say this, the game fails, or it changes, then fails. It's a rock, and I am looking forward to the notice (AA) NCSoft gives in 6 months announcing L2 requires more revenue, so this one needed scrapped.
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Anyone else here insane?
The question was to make a logical argument, it was made. That argument being that this game is a copy of a game already shunned by experienced gamers (and for a reason). It is a copy of the worst sci-fi revision in MMO history, without the elements that made it a good game from the start.
If you want to release a sci-fi MMO, ground based right now, do NOT make it pseudo-fps if you want it to succeed. Chose a side, turn or FPS. Because the pseudo is SWG, the only predecessor I can think of being Neocron (which no one plays). If you are going to choose the former (pseudo) then make it fit into a larger element than your predecessor (SWG), in other words, make the game better in all aspects! With all the time they blew, why isn't this game better than current SWG? Why doesn't it look better? Why aren't character models more mod'able, why isn't there a crafting system to salute, why aren't there better constructs for communities, why wasn't a pvp system considered, why is a game as shunned as SWG even a comparison point for this one when this was released 4 years later, with twice the experience on staff (hello, Richard)?
No, you are not insane. You are having a good time. Those of us who have had a "good time" in several MMO's left pretty quickly after our trial (or 30 key) ran out. I simply think this heap could have been better than a good time. With a little development imagination, it could have been great.
It just, isn't, and shadows it's former.
The point none of you hatemongers seem to get is that for the most part we don't care about ANY of that. NONE of it. For whatever reason we find the game fun. I don't believe it's necissary to disect the reasons why I find it fun. I just know that it is for now. If after a month or two or three, it's not longer fun... I'll stop playing, EXACTLY like I have for EVERY game I have ever played. Fun doesn't require a f'ing doctorate. If I enjoy it, it's my own personal preference. I don't need someone telling me how I'm contributing to the downfall of creativity or that I'm somehow mentally retarded and can't understand the concept of gaming.
You guys fill every damn thread in every forum with hate, contempt and derision for the game, gamers and designers of practically every MMO I've ever enjoyed. Check my list of games played. Check their forums. You can't even mention WOW in a thread without 40 haters spamming crap that usually has nothing to do with the thread.
This thread was about someone being delightfully surprised by the joy and fun the game brought them, but like every other thread about TR, it was taken over by opinionated ignorant haters that feel it's their duty to tell everyone in detail exactly how they think this game sucks.
We do NOT care what you think of the game. It's obviously not for you. Now can we have our forum back please? Or MMORPG.com needs to open a second forum for TR haters and trolls. Why they don't enforce their guidlines is beyond me. Their definition of trolling specifically applies to this situation.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain.
Because its fun!!!
Now having said that - fun is subjective so what some people consider fun, others consider a grind or boring etc and the reverse holds true.
So I dont expect everyone to enjoy the game. To each their own.
Short of the game God himself is making, Darkfall, I've seen no game on this site get anything but flamed in forums. Seriously, you guys should just stop playing games. You hate all of them, hate the designers, the publishers and anyone that plays them. They're all stupid and everyone that plays them is stupid and it's all just so stupid that the developers dont' just hire your bitching, whining asses to make your uber game so it can hit the market, crash, burn and you can blame every other stupid person involved that your idea wasn't realized. Boohoohoo, boohoo.
Wow. That's just stupid.
Maybe you don't f'ing comprehend the sentiment. I come here to read about the game I'm currently playing and EVERY single thread is FILLED with useless trolling hatred from you and people like you. Since TR doesn't have an official forum and MMORPG.com is my primary gaming forum, I would like to see threads about the game that didn't get sidetracked every time with this useless shit.
Yes, it's all very stupid and makes these forums pointless.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
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What can we say, some people like ThompsonSub just loves to be miserable, instead of enjoying another MMO they actualy like they have to come troll games they hate and bash it for nothing, wasting there time and feeling like the world let them down. What cant we do, they just have no other reason in life, maybe there just lonely and feel that troll a game is the best way to connect with people, I mean look we respond to them so they come back for more they crave that attention.
Its a shame they just enjoy misery more than having fun. Personnaly I prefer to just move on and have fun where I actualy having fun it makes more sense dont you think
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Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
amusing how so many people try to say this game isn't a total turd yet every single thread is full of deleted posts and people totally dissing on it. for every single post that is deleted on this site i just think someone said something true, they kinda add up to "no really this game does infact suck despite rabid fans".
i think the main reason we (as a bunch of people whos posts get deleted) are bashing it so hard is we wouldnt want to see people actually believe the B.S. you fantards are spitting out and waste $ on the game which might in turn make NC soft think they did something right.
even if this was the best game to come out all year (nuh-uh, no way, not even if i was on acid meth and your mom all @ once) it doesnt make up for the fact that its the worst year for online gaming in a decade.
Whether its a bad year for Online gaming is irrelevant to this topic. Please do not try and convince us that all the negative posts are to warn innocents not to waste their money. Constant negative posting, over and over on the same topic is trolling. period. State your case and move on to a game that you ARE interested in. People aren't that stupid. They will read your post and consider it, however when we see constant negatives we begin to think some have an agenda, and its not really to protect the consumer, more as its their ego and hurt feelings they are expressing by bashing the game. Anyone that "Protests too much" on internet forums is usually just a troll suspect and reading their weak arguments usually confirms it. Move on and just let it go man. Try and Enjoy your day.
Current Games: WOW, EVE Online
This game is fun...it may not be the answer to my mmo prayers, but it is enjoyable for the time being. I am really not sure what your true purpose is in this forum, but it is obvious you need a new outlet. NCsoft developed a GAME...alot of people are playing this GAME and acutally enjoying themselves. Is that not the point of a GAME? You should seriously go splash some water on your face and try figure out why you can't seem to come to terms with the fact that people are acutally content playing this game and why you are taking this so seriously. The high amount of stress and resentment the success or failure a video game you dont even play fiils you with, should be a wake up call to for you to seriously step away.
IMO, if a game isn't fun within the first hour, then there's a serious design flaw. That's with any genre, including mmos.
1. Pointing out the one truth to a group of people who very desperately need to hear it and take it in.
2. Making the most sensible post in the TR section to date.
This industry will not advance at all and will certainly never reach its potential to deliver the next level of interactive entertainment, if companies keep producing this half baked garbage and consumers keep buying it.
Well done !!
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Actually I think YOU are missing the point.
I have had a BALL since purchasing and playing TR and I haven't had a MMO for a long time actually make me cant wait to be able to log in again.
I dont like FPS games *at all* but this one has sucked me right in.
Just because you think it is sub-standard and shallow etc is just your opinion. If you don't like it then stop subscribing and move on to another game.
Others like myself are really enjoying it and that IS what matters and makes me pay my monthly subscription. If I felt it wasn't worth it then I would stop subscribing.
I don't consider MMOs to be expensive. If you can't get $15 worth of fun from it in a MONTH then stop. I've lost count how single player games I have bought and tired with after a few weeks. I've never had that problem with MMOs. It is the boxed single player games that are expensive in my opinion.
Anyway, TR is fun for me RIGHT NOW. I don't care about the end game content RIGHT NOW as I am not at the end game yet and probably wont be for a long time (if I get there at all). By then they will have added the end game content but if they haven't then I will unsubscribe THEN not now.
And since it is fun for me right now I am more than happy to fork over my monthly subscription to play.
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Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
Even the storyline was ripped straight from the Raelian philosophy.
Its actualy pretty sad that :
A : people are "sucked in" by it..... and
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
Even the storyline was ripped straight from the Raelian philosophy.
Its actualy pretty sad that :
A : people are "sucked in" by it..... and
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
Well I have played MMOs since as far back as UO so I don't fit into your generalisation. I've played quite a lot of MMOs thank you.
By not liking FPS games I meant that I generally dont like games where you run about shooting things with guns. I've tried a few that my son plays avidly but they just don't 'do it' for me. TR does.
You are talking about 'sucked in' like being sucked in by hype and shiny features. I talk about being sucked in by gameplay and immersion. Again for me TR does that.
I *like* TR, I am having fun playing TR so I don't mind paying for it.
For me, if I like it, then it is "good". It may not fit your opinion of "good" but you are as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
I say to NCSoft and Richard Garriott a resounding Well Done! and I hope to see more like it.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
Even the storyline was ripped straight from the Raelian philosophy.
Its actualy pretty sad that :
A : people are "sucked in" by it..... and
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
FALSE,
i'm a GAMER for over 25+ years now, i play allot of different type of games, last week bought Crysis, hell of a good game, but sort of lacks something really new, feels a bit like Splintercell/Stalker in the Jungle, but other then that i do enjoy and have fun with the game. Before that i bought Bioshock, also a very nice game, but very very short and not really challeging, but visualy and game wise still a very enjoyeble game. Probebly will pickup Cod4 and UT3 this week, perhaps even today (my day off) not sure though if UT3 is here already...........
So the only one confused is you.........Tabula Rasa is a good MMO, not so a MMORPG but a good MMO, also not great, but sorry not that much choice, i mean HGL ...nah ...might be fun for some ...not me, but i see no need to bash that game just because i didn't really like or enjoy it.
Keep in mind many people ARE GAMERS and not so shallow as some of you are..sorry to say...but you clearly have a very limited view upon gamers as your reactions proofs that.
Then i read the games you seem to compare it to, sorry i played them , can not compare them, but then i am a gamer and judge games on what there is to play.
All in all your reaction is that of a NEWCOMER and definitly not from someone REALLY into games.
Speaking of missing the point...
The reason this game has "sucked you in" (which I dont doubt), is that it is NOT an FPS.
It is a standard MMO with some guns replacing traditional fantasy weapons.
The combat system has not added a single element that was not already in existence in either AO, SWG pre CU or Neocron.
Generally speaking the people that seem to like TR just havnt had the breadth of MMO experience to make valid comparisons so they present it to other newcomers as something "new"
There is almost nothing new about this game other than the name and even that is derivative.
Even the storyline was ripped straight from the Raelian philosophy.
Its actualy pretty sad that :
A : people are "sucked in" by it..... and
B : they couldnt come up with something more original and technically courages given the time, the budget and the people behind it.
So dont confuse the fact that you like it with it being good. Like I said about Brittany Spears music.... its wildly popular but it is still crap. The two are basically mutually exclusive in many cases and this is one of them.
actually, based on the highlighted text above, it sounds like you havn't even played TR. The combat system is NOTHING like the games you've mentioned. I played AO for 3 years, and off and on to this day. I put a good 6+ months into Neocron, and several years into SWG, in all it's incarnations.People LIKE TR, and are going to buy it and play it. No amount of trolling / ranting is going to change that.
It's one of the three games I play right now, because it satisfies the need for a futuristic war-game. The intense, fast-paced TR is unique among the MMO genre, and a breath of fresh air, IMO.
If you don't like TR than please feel free to crawl back to WoW or wallow in your SWG tears. I've played five or six MMOs in my time, liked preCU SWG the best (it's not even a contest), but I'm already enjoying TR more than I ever enjoyed SWG sans JtL play.
TR is like what I would have wanted for the GCW in SWG and that's what I view it as, the GCW minus everything else and that's fine by me. I don't see why people feel the need to rape the game and insult those who play it. The solution is simply: stfu and don't buy it. Wow, I should get a medal.
And yes you get a medal!
And yes you get a medal!
Now lets hope they add some stuff that SWG does have (done good or bad, the ideas are sound) and put some space battles and such lol. Made this thread awhile back and I'm still having fun, so I think I'll be continuing my subs for at least another month. this game is still on the ground floor, I can't imagine what new additions will bring, can't wait either.
That, Sir, is the hallmark of a good game for you. First impressions really don't count for anything. In MMORPGs, it is the long haul game that is important.
Good Hunting
Hope it holds up for you
To each their own
For me, having fun in the moment is far more inportant than anything at any games level cap.
For me, the end game is truly about 5% of the overall value of a game. It's the journey, and in TR the Journey is a complete blast
3 months of playing and the journey here is every bit as fun as a game could possibly be for me.
If I reach level cap and the game is no longer fun, I will easily move on and not ever regret the fun that I had along the way. It will still be a great game no matter how you break it down
Hey, I haven't commented on TR since Beta, which in my opinion was a trav to what an MMO should be, especially from where it was coming from (RG). Truthfully, I expected a sandbox, instead (in beta) I got an anti-sandbox, with a combat system which is a complete mirror of NGE:SWG. I am really glad you are having a blast, but I could never have a blast in that system. I will look back on this game in 6 months or so, and I am marking you in particular. If you are still about at level cap saying you have your spread, I'll consider the game. From It's previous form it had nothing to do but improve, it had a long way to go from what they advertised two clicks ago.Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
This is why the posts are deleted. Your logic that "all the posts are bad therefore the game must be bad" is inductive and faulty at best. The real reason all those threads are deleted are because people who don't like the game feel the need (for some reason) to insult those who do like it. Therefore, the threads are a violation of the ToS and deleted.
I also would like to comment on the "worst year for online gaming in a decade". If you are talking this year specfically, then you must have not paid attention. WOW BC, LOTRO, EQ2 and EQ expansion, and Tabula Rasa to me show its has been a good year. If you want to throw out the semi-mmo's like Guild Wars and Hellgate, then it has been a great year.
Now if you want to talk about diversity and such as it relates to the mmo market, I think you have a case. What we have seen in the market is a dumbing-down of mmo's. For example, people want instant gratification so "easy-button" mmo's come out. If EQ launched today, it would do horrible. People would hate the death penalty and haiving to run get your corpse. Many of us old-school vets wouldn't mind playing a game like that, but since now the market is driven by subscriber numbers (look at all the threads through all these forums related to how many people play the game - especially LOTRO) you can tell its all about maximizing your subscriber base. This is why games are so easy and accessible now.
This is one thing I love about TR. It has a bit of a leveling curve (and its why I left WOW - even leveling now is so easy in WOW that it took away that sense of accomplishment I felt when I first hit 60 in December 2004). TR doesn't lay everything out for you, it makes you work for stuff and guess sometimes. Its not perfect but I enjoy it.
So let me make this plea to Megaflux and anyone else who hates TR: Write a well-reasoned post about why you don't like it, don't resort to name calling (like fantards) and I promise you I will respond in a well-reasoned manner while respecting your opinions. I think thats what all of us who like TR are saying and why we get so upset when people treat us like we stupid for liking what we like.
Glad I read the last paragraph, you know the one where you got done insulting everyone who finds this game insulting? (Yes, I am insulted that this is the only release I cared about over the thin past year).
1) You hit 60 in WoW in 2004. Join the millions. Sorry, that will be my only WoW bash. It does not, however, display a schwerve on these forums. We've all played WoW, 8 bazillion people on these forums played WoW. Wow, cl60 in 04. You Badass you.
2) TR. Why didn't some of us like it? 1) Complete NGE:SWG combat system. A complete and utter copy, although it was just as good (IE Trash). If you want to make a Sci-Fi MMO, you cannot make it under the same auspice as the most recent tragedy. I don't know what they were thinking other than, "Hey SOE had a great idea but they fumbled it, let's make the same thing and get it RIGHT!" The problem is, there was no way to get that right. SWG is actually a pretty smooth system at this point, the problem is, the system was fundamentally flawed to start with (in the NGE). They copied it, hook, line, and 2 ton sinker. You will get no, mark it ZERO sympathy on these forums for doing so. Plus, the game I mentioned before, is 4 years old and still four times deeper than the TR launch. They have the same combat system, but they also have open areas, 9 worlds, space (see ships), player housing, useful non-combat professions, and a sense of group and community...not to even mention real PvP (which I HATE to say), and an impressive, scalable engine to boot (see, "I can look however I wish"). So TR has the combat system we all hate with zero frills.
Again, why would a sane human being play this game? Because it's new? Because it's pretty? There is still a pile out there that looks better and plays better and is cheaper to obtain. I am just smart enough not to repeat past mistakes, because I can say this, the game fails, or it changes, then fails. It's a rock, and I am looking forward to the notice (AA) NCSoft gives in 6 months announcing L2 requires more revenue, so this one needed scrapped.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Anyone else here insane?
Short of the game God himself is making, Darkfall, I've seen no game on this site get anything but flamed in forums. Seriously, you guys should just stop playing games. You hate all of them, hate the designers, the publishers and anyone that plays them. They're all stupid and everyone that plays them is stupid and it's all just so stupid that the developers dont' just hire your bitching, whining asses to make your uber game so it can hit the market, crash, burn and you can blame every other stupid person involved that your idea wasn't realized. Boohoohoo, boohoo.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Anyone else here insane?
The question was to make a logical argument, it was made. That argument being that this game is a copy of a game already shunned by experienced gamers (and for a reason). It is a copy of the worst sci-fi revision in MMO history, without the elements that made it a good game from the start.If you want to release a sci-fi MMO, ground based right now, do NOT make it pseudo-fps if you want it to succeed. Chose a side, turn or FPS. Because the pseudo is SWG, the only predecessor I can think of being Neocron (which no one plays). If you are going to choose the former (pseudo) then make it fit into a larger element than your predecessor (SWG), in other words, make the game better in all aspects! With all the time they blew, why isn't this game better than current SWG? Why doesn't it look better? Why aren't character models more mod'able, why isn't there a crafting system to salute, why aren't there better constructs for communities, why wasn't a pvp system considered, why is a game as shunned as SWG even a comparison point for this one when this was released 4 years later, with twice the experience on staff (hello, Richard)?
No, you are not insane. You are having a good time. Those of us who have had a "good time" in several MMO's left pretty quickly after our trial (or 30 key) ran out. I simply think this heap could have been better than a good time. With a little development imagination, it could have been great.
It just, isn't, and shadows it's former.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Wow. That's just stupid.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Well I guess I had better bow down to your superior intellect since you are way too smart to be playing a game that I find fun
Oh and from your comment I guess I must be insane too?
Anyone else here insane?
The question was to make a logical argument, it was made. That argument being that this game is a copy of a game already shunned by experienced gamers (and for a reason). It is a copy of the worst sci-fi revision in MMO history, without the elements that made it a good game from the start.If you want to release a sci-fi MMO, ground based right now, do NOT make it pseudo-fps if you want it to succeed. Chose a side, turn or FPS. Because the pseudo is SWG, the only predecessor I can think of being Neocron (which no one plays). If you are going to choose the former (pseudo) then make it fit into a larger element than your predecessor (SWG), in other words, make the game better in all aspects! With all the time they blew, why isn't this game better than current SWG? Why doesn't it look better? Why aren't character models more mod'able, why isn't there a crafting system to salute, why aren't there better constructs for communities, why wasn't a pvp system considered, why is a game as shunned as SWG even a comparison point for this one when this was released 4 years later, with twice the experience on staff (hello, Richard)?
No, you are not insane. You are having a good time. Those of us who have had a "good time" in several MMO's left pretty quickly after our trial (or 30 key) ran out. I simply think this heap could have been better than a good time. With a little development imagination, it could have been great.
It just, isn't, and shadows it's former.
The point none of you hatemongers seem to get is that for the most part we don't care about ANY of that. NONE of it. For whatever reason we find the game fun. I don't believe it's necissary to disect the reasons why I find it fun. I just know that it is for now. If after a month or two or three, it's not longer fun... I'll stop playing, EXACTLY like I have for EVERY game I have ever played. Fun doesn't require a f'ing doctorate. If I enjoy it, it's my own personal preference. I don't need someone telling me how I'm contributing to the downfall of creativity or that I'm somehow mentally retarded and can't understand the concept of gaming.You guys fill every damn thread in every forum with hate, contempt and derision for the game, gamers and designers of practically every MMO I've ever enjoyed. Check my list of games played. Check their forums. You can't even mention WOW in a thread without 40 haters spamming crap that usually has nothing to do with the thread.
This thread was about someone being delightfully surprised by the joy and fun the game brought them, but like every other thread about TR, it was taken over by opinionated ignorant haters that feel it's their duty to tell everyone in detail exactly how they think this game sucks.
We do NOT care what you think of the game. It's obviously not for you. Now can we have our forum back please? Or MMORPG.com needs to open a second forum for TR haters and trolls. Why they don't enforce their guidlines is beyond me. Their definition of trolling specifically applies to this situation.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Because its fun!!!
Now having said that - fun is subjective so what some people consider fun, others consider a grind or boring etc and the reverse holds true.
So I dont expect everyone to enjoy the game. To each their own.
Wow. That's just stupid.
Maybe you don't f'ing comprehend the sentiment. I come here to read about the game I'm currently playing and EVERY single thread is FILLED with useless trolling hatred from you and people like you. Since TR doesn't have an official forum and MMORPG.com is my primary gaming forum, I would like to see threads about the game that didn't get sidetracked every time with this useless shit.Yes, it's all very stupid and makes these forums pointless.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online