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I recently went to EQII from WoW and I must say, EQII is better. I played EQI for 4 years before WoW came out, only reason that I went to WoW was because EQ was dieing and was hard to have fun when no one was playing the game. But, before I went to WoW, I tried out EQII. From launch, EQII was HORRIBLE. I hated the class progression and it seemed to take forever to actually get into the game. Now, EQII has 4 expansions, they revised ALOT of the game, including taking out the training zone, and there seem to be alot more players in EQII which is good. All in all, I am very pro EQ seeing that I played EQI for so long, and now that EQII has been revised, it seems alot like the old EQ which is the best MMO ever IMO. My question is, are alot of people going to EQII now? I know ALOT of players went to WoW from EQI because EQII sucked at launch, but are people going to EQII now that it has been revised to be what I see as a mix between WoW and EQI? I vote EQII. Just wanna know what you guys think!
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But EQ2 and WoW are diffirent games, and since the latest EQ2 expansion was launched so little time ago there is bound to be better population of low level players atm in EQ2 than there usually is. So if one wants to switch game from WoW to something else, now would be a good time to check out EQ2.
That being said, I still like WoW much better than EQ2. And so do most people (not necessarily most people in mmorpg.com, but most people who subcribe to some MMO).
EDIT: I just noticed that the OP has just 1 post. Some kind of viral adveriser from SOE perhaps? (ofc this is just speculation) /EDIT
yes i only have one post, I go to college and cant play my MMO games much but im on christmas break and was searching the eqII forums and saw this website, ive never heard of it and it has alot of good info so I just wanted to post. im in no way an advertiser.
I have played both and to be honest its a matter of preference. As far as people leaving WoW for EQII well I can say that goes both ways, especially since I was assisting a couple of people the other day in WoW who recently came over from EQII and were long time players.
It really doesnt matter what game your playing as long as it is what your enjoying and having fun with.
Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
-Heraclitus 500BC
fully agree
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I definately agree with that statment as well... I played EQI for 4 years, WoW for 2 years, and just started EQII and ive been happy with all games.
Due to this statement alone i think that it is a little unfair of you to say how much you like EQII over WoW when you really haven't had the same amount of time to evaluate. Maybe you should re-visit it after you have played EQII for another six months and then see how the longevity compares.
Either way, as long as you enjoy what you are playing, that is all that really matters. Have fun.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
You should re-visit it after you have played EQII for another six months and then see how the longevity compares.
Your point?
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Sooner than later you will find that EQ2 can be quite a hollow experience. Do random checks of the server population and realize that SOE blatantly lies when it comes to server loads. They have set the game up nicely for the first levels but the farther you get the more you will learn that EQ2 is not what you were looking for. After that I don't know what to tell you. You could go back to WoW or hopefully that might get you to the next game that gets released that is worth something but based on the current track record that could be a decade.
Another pointless pro-EQ2 post. Just read back about 2 days to see the last one.
Only this time the OP couldn't give any reason beyond "I like it better". How lazy!
Yawn. If you like EQ2 so much then why not post on their forums and let us enjoy the stuff we like doing.
It seems odd for someone to visit MMORPG.com for the first time and think "where shall I go first and make my first post - should I go to the forum of the game I really love and post there? Or should I go to some old game i don't play any more." Why did the OP come straight to the WOW forum and not first visit and post in the forum of the game he actually likes?
Theory - the OP is a newly created alt of a regular poster here. And this whole thread is nothing but a poorly executed troll.
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I'd have to agree. And if the OP really did come here as he said he's got a lot to learn about proper forum posting and protocol.
Who the hell are you, and why should I care?
Congrats! You are a victim of Trollstar!
lol you got me! I just wanted to see what you guys thought about the two games, not to bash WoW. I loved WoW and still like it, I just needed a change. My reasons for liking EQ better is that it has more of a variety. In WoW everyone is going for the tier X gear sets. I loved raiding with my guild and raided 4 nights a week but once the expansion came out, things went downhill IMO. I never did get to 70 and thats probably why I didnt have the best experience with the expansion but Im just trying EQII right now, who knows I might be back to WoW... Im def not anti-WoW. Oh and I came straight to the WoW forum? I guess you were in the same room as me when I was reading for a few hours before I even made a username. But hey I guess im a "troll" lol. I wanted the thoughts of people that have played BOTH EQII and WoW. thanks anyways!
I've learned to dislike all of SOE's games and frankly, the SOE developers themselves. They are generally of a hardcore mindset and it shows in their games. They have a distaste for casual / solo game play and it shows in their games.
I have the same bad feelings for Turbine. They at least like casual play styles, but man do I dislike the way they make their games, they're either wierd or too limited in scope to appeal to me.
I like Blizzard for the most part, but gawd am I tired of the ex-EQ devs who joined the team who keep shoving raiding down our throats like it was the best tasting shite ever.
I like Mythic because they are middle of the road and have never been fans of raiding, even if their games so far have been a bit more hardcore than I like.
If you prefer solo / casual game play, then WoW is the superior game by far. If you like time sinks, lackluster solo / casual content, nice enough group content and even more raiding than WoW, then you'll like EQ2.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I've played both. EQ2 is infinately better and I'd rather gouge out my eyes than play WoW again. I didn't even finish the month and was lvl 26 in a week playing only a couple of hours every couple of days. I litterally couldn't bring myself to play it more than that as it was SO AGGRAVATING. Everything about it.
I think you're right. EQ2 is much better.
I think you have an extremely good point here. EQ definately does encourage players that are more hardcore than WoW players. EQ involves grouping ALOT more than WoW which is a down side especially for someone like me because im in college and dont have alot of time between school, work, and hockey games/practice.
EQ needs grouping
EQ2 does not need grouping
can Solo Quest to 80
eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Solo_Timelines
(EQ2 with its 4 expansions, has more solo quests than WOW)
In WOW, I have several 70s among both Alliance/Horde and done almost every solo quest
Ive seen the comparison
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Yeah, a very unrewarding, tedious grind to 80 if you solo. Most of it has to be done over land. The few instances they put in for soloing are stupid with little creativity and craptastic rewards, if they reward you anything but experience. EQ2 is already way too slow to level even when you group, let alone when you solo. This is what SOE does with all of their games, bunch of hardcore, nerdtastic developers, so it's not surprising.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I started in August, my profile below
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Took me 4 months to mostly *solo quest* to 79 (slower than WOW but its not slow)
try playing EQ2 again before you make statements that are no longer true
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That is a load of crap. I solo and I'm having fun doing it. Maybe you like to settle for the lowest common denominator gaming that WoW offers, but I don't. EQ2 quests (yes including the solo ones) are much more fun and engaging and they don't baby you like WoW does. WoW is WAYYYYYYY too fast to level. The whole point for you fanbois is to get to the top where all you do is raid. Well guess what.. I've been part of EQ2 for years (almost since the day it opened) and have never reached the top. There's too much to do.
The whole point is in the journey, not in the end game. Its too bad WoW fanbois can't realize that.
You'll get tired of it just like everybody else and come looking for a better game, just like they did. We get posts on here all the time about WoWsters looking for a better game because WoW is boring.
They both have horrible PVP so the deciding factor is the PVE and EQII's is far more immersive then WoW's hands down.
That is a load of crap. I solo and I'm having fun doing it. Maybe you like to settle for the lowest common denominator gaming that WoW offers, but I don't. EQ2 quests (yes including the solo ones) are much more fun and engaging and they don't baby you like WoW does. WoW is WAYYYYYYY too fast to level. The whole point for you fanbois is to get to the top where all you do is raid. Well guess what.. I've been part of EQ2 for years (almost since the day it opened) and have never reached the top. There's too much to do.
The whole point is in the journey, not in the end game. Its too bad WoW fanbois can't realize that.
You'll get tired of it just like everybody else and come looking for a better game, just like they did. We get posts on here all the time about WoWsters looking for a better game because WoW is boring.
Agreed Moirae. EQ2 ain't just for the hardcore players. Expansion 4 Rise of Kunark is more solo and group orientated than before. There's plenty to do, and it's only the players that grind like crazy to reach the endgame that get bored easily. Those of us that take our time and enjoy the journey have much more fun.
I have 1 toon out of 7 who's reached the endgame. The others I'm taking my time with. All my characters still have plenty to do, as well as the tradeskills.
I have seen a HUGE influx of new players since Kunark was released, the vast majoirty of them are WoW players. And guess what? Most of them are loving EQ2. Go figure...
Currently returned to Norrath after disliking Hyboria.
Yup, the servers are heaving with players at the moment, and there's a large influx of new players that I've never seen the likes of in the two years I've been playing. And as you say, the majority of those are coming over from WoW, only last week an entire guild came over to my server.
I'm not an anti-WoW person, I found the game reasonably good fun when I played, if not a little shallow compared to EQ2. We owe a lot to WoW for introducing a lot of new people to the MMORPG genre. It was inevitable that those players would eventually try other games to see what else is out there and EQ2 is well placed to take on those players and give them an altogether better PvE experience.
That is a load of crap. I solo and I'm having fun doing it. Maybe you like to settle for the lowest common denominator gaming that WoW offers, but I don't. EQ2 quests (yes including the solo ones) are much more fun and engaging and they don't baby you like WoW does. WoW is WAYYYYYYY too fast to level. The whole point for you fanbois is to get to the top where all you do is raid. Well guess what.. I've been part of EQ2 for years (almost since the day it opened) and have never reached the top. There's too much to do.
The whole point is in the journey, not in the end game. Its too bad WoW fanbois can't realize that.
You'll get tired of it just like everybody else and come looking for a better game, just like they did. We get posts on here all the time about WoWsters looking for a better game because WoW is boring.
If putting down WoW makes you feel better about EQ2, then more power to you. My opinions are no more a load of crap than yours. Of course I prefer WoW's level speed, it's why I make the argument in the first place. I've played both games and yes, I played EQ2 not even 2 months ago. Why is it the typical argument of the fanbois to assume someone hasn't played the game in 2 years, how arrogant. Leveling speed for me has nothing to do with rushing to end game, but it is all about feeling a sense of accomplishment everytime I log into a game. I hate feeling like a game is stonewalling my progression for no other reason than the developers are a bunch of sadists.
As far as refugees form games, I see more than a few who depart EQ2 for WoW, you have a point I'm not seeing? It's all about preference. The guy asked for opinion on both games and I gave it. Why don't you give your opinions without attacking someone else's in the process, it would be much more productive. You can't call someone a liar for their opinions and you look foolish doing so.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I have enjoyed both EQ2 and WoW, but have played both so long both are a bit played out. Both are great games
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Both are great games it's all opinion.
Eq2 had issue's at launch vs WoW was, is, and always will be a flawless game play experience.
As some people referenced; we should all be happy WoW was created to draw non-mmo'ers to the market. The more players, the more revenue, the more innovation we all get to enjoy.
MMO players need to stop hating so much on other games and enjoy what you play and agree when other games have an edge with certain features. If one game ruled all the mmo scene would be like walmart and you'd all be forced to play the same clone piece of crap. I only wish that more game company's would start delevering quality products instead of GREAT IDEAS that NEVER come to life. If it's just an idea don't waiste, us the players, time with what could, might, hopefully be and deliver what will be and make it great.