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The #1 SandBox MMO is still the one and Only Galaxies
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you bring the pre-cu disks. we meet upon the grassy knoll at midnight.
To the OP ,glad you like it you are obviously the target audience that SOE wants, But be forewarned from someone who has been there,SOE would nerf everything you have suceeded to acomplish in game in a heartbeat for more subs,so dont be too let down when SOE wipes out your efforts,we know how it feels and you will always have a shoulder to cry on here.
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I guess all i can say is that i HATE you!!
Not Linear? such as legacy mabey?
Kash then Musty?
you show the flaw in your opinions you say the game is open and free to do what you want and you talk about exploiters and what not as in some kinda balance in a PVP system yet your only a CL 56 and not yet seen the end game of PvP in SWG. and the fact your still at cl 56 it shows that your really not having much fun with the quests and such...
and BTW swg is as much of a sanx box as WoW is...
i do not thnk 'sandbox' means what you think it means. it doesn't mean tatooine.
best of luck to you in this game, sounds like you've found something made just for you.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
a sandbox is ... life
(im a deep thinker)
What was it they said about the NGE? 'They took a virtual world squeezed it until it was only a virtual game'.
I would vote SWG for best sandbox game. Simply because it really feels like a galaxy with the (crafted) playercities,PVE and spacecombat. To bad that PVE is crap in this game. Even most of the vets grind their alts afk using their pets. This is why I dont even vote on SWG anymore, for any reason.
The experience from enjoyable Legacy quests and quests on nice planets as Kashyyyk and Mustafar, gets totally destroyed for anyone who is used to smooth PVE combat mechanics. Bugfest ftl. And the devs dont even dare to touch this crappy hybrid shooter code.
To bad, because at the same time the current dev team puts good effort in new content and even new features.
Anything the devs did at this point, would be too little, too friggin' late.
Short of classic servers, perhaps.....
HAHAHA! go on back to what ever hole game you are playing now because you are living in the shadows of your own imposing failure at Galaxies. You are now a sheep and have allowed yourself to be culled to the heard of the crowd of mindless zombies who think that balance = exploit, FOTM. There is no more FOTM's in Galaxies bub and why is that?
Because my short sighted friend its balanced now. The irrefutable truth of it all is you got burned out of your FOTM choices and your dreams of glorious exploitation of unbalanced game play.
TOO BAD FOR JU!
I don't think you understand, you are a fricken nutjob, and the game SUCKS!! Everyone knows these 2 simple facts. Yes I can compete, but with who, the game is dead.Most balanced game on the planet. ROFL!!!!!! The economy is horrible. Crafters are still worthless. I'm sure this wont effect you and your UBER jedi toon you bought off of Ebay.
If the game is SOOO fuckin great where is everyone. Population doesn't exist.
Go ahead a continue to rant, it keeps me laughing.
I agree mostly. OP says the classes are balanced? Nope.. there still is FOTM and always will be. Idea is good but the game engine and the code is full crap and its too little too late to try adding stuff with few devs.
you bring the pre-cu disks. we meet upon the grassy knoll at midnight.
We'll see about that!
The definition of a Sandbox game is "A Game with an Open Ended and Non-Linear" type of play."
SWG used to be c ompletely open ended and non-linear. However to this day they give you a linear path from day 1.
I will not debate whether or not this game is good ,or whether or not people play the NGE, nor will I show favor to either style of play.
I will however say succinctly that both the Pre-CU and the CU were both Sandbox styles of play whereas the NGE is primarily a Linear style of play with Sandbox Elements.
To illustrate my point I would like to ask what big difference the current SWG build has in comparison with Vanguard? These two games can easily be compared,
The only major difference in Vanguard would be that they actually do have skill based leveling, but it is, however, capped and class specific.
Ultimately you're left with, as I said before, a linear game with sandbox elements.
HAHAHA! go on back to what ever hole game you are playing now because you are living in the shadows of your own imposing failure at Galaxies. You are now a sheep and have allowed yourself to be culled to the heard of the crowd of mindless zombies who think that balance = exploit, FOTM. There is no more FOTM's in Galaxies bub and why is that?
Because my short sighted friend its balanced now. The irrefutable truth of it all is you got burned out of your FOTM choices and your dreams of glorious exploitation of unbalanced game play.
TOO BAD FOR JU!
I can tell you dont have a clue, no its ok your just very funny keep posting your very funny
Sorry if I missed something, but how, exactly, can you call DAoC a sandbox game?
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im to lazy too use grammar or punctuation good
In the OP's previous thread (which was deleted) he proved himself to be nothing more than a liar. He lost all credibility when he posted that SOE bought LA. You're a small, small man Horkathane.
I doubt very much he was ever concerned about credibility, especially after that last post. We really got to see his true motivation there.
What are you, a completely fuxed up idiot that SOE beat with a morman one too many times? The game is NO LONGER a SandBox game. You sir, deserve an R TA4D medal.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
...its not sandbox anymore...
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Yes it is still sandbox and is still fun thanks to chpt 6 the sandbox is back.
Ajax
It was the first MMO I've ever played. I didn't know what to do or where to go. This is why I enjoyed it so much. It seems everything is just handed to you in other MMOs. It's like each and every new MMO that is released lacks more and more freedom.
That quote is not from the matrix, its from the first Terminator movie.
Now back to on topic, SWG is no longer a sandbox b/c the sand was replaced with cow dung. So, hope you enjoy your shitbox.
This game ceased to be a "sandbox" when the NGE was implemented. It's now just another linear progression MMO. Big whoop. The market is flooded with those and, oddly, a lot of them are a lot less buggy and more polished than SWG has ever been or will ever be. Adding new instances you say? What the hell good are they if people have problems getting their entire group inside. Go play WoW or CoX and tell me how many times you have a problem getting a single member of your group into an instance. Tell me how many times you rubber band because of lag issues caused by faulty code that the current developers do not know how to fix. Tell me how many times you are killed by NPCs who are firing through walls. Tell me how many times the developers have to completely change the entire combat system of the game because they think it sucks. SWG as it exists today is nothing but an abomination and should never be compared to the true sandbox it was in its glory days.
P.S. Those odd bugs I mentioned have existed in SWG for years. Yes, YEARS. SOE cannot fix them because they're embedded in the old code that these new developers know almost nothing about. So much for your amazing game.
This game ceased to be a "sandbox" when the NGE was implemented. It's now just another linear progression MMO. Big whoop. The market is flooded with those and, oddly, a lot of them are a lot less buggy and more polished than SWG has ever been or will ever be. Adding new instances you say? What the hell good are they if people have problems getting their entire group inside. Go play WoW or CoX and tell me how many times you have a problem getting a single member of your group into an instance. Tell me how many times you rubber band because of lag issues caused by faulty code that the current developers do not know how to fix. Tell me how many times you are killed by NPCs who are firing through walls. Tell me how many times the developers have to completely change the entire combat system of the game because they think it sucks. SWG as it exists today is nothing but an abomination and should never be compared to the true sandbox it was in its glory days.
P.S. Those odd bugs I mentioned have existed in SWG for years. Yes, YEARS. SOE cannot fix them because they're embedded in the old code that these new developers know almost nothing about. So much for your amazing game.
Part of that is due to the game Engine. Even the EMU guys have talked about how hard SWG's code is to work with. That's why the NGE would have been better if they had just dropped the old Client and used a more 'up to date' one.Also the instance bug 'was' in the CU as well. A few of the Jedi Players in my guild where doing one and talked about it back then. Again this isn't a fault of the Pre-CU/CU/NGE but more of a fault of the Engine SWG has.
The best way to say it is like this, the more code and the more 'complex' you make something. The more bugs and the like you will have to deal with. WoW, EQ 1 and 2 and other games are known for having less code and being less complex in programing. And all those things you've talked about NPC's firing through walls, rubber banding, did happen in the old days as well.
In the end, the more code you have in your program, the more likely you'll run into bugs and it will be much harder to fix those bugs... It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack for the most part.
I know this, which is why I said these problems have existed for YEARS and SOE can't fix them. The instance problem started with the Necrosis instance released in Rage of the Wookiees and only got worse with the new instances released in ToOW. It's never been fixed because the new codes have been superimposed on top of the old, buggy code. And, you're correct, NPCs firing through walls, rubber banding, etc. are all problems dating back to the pre-CU days. If the developers back then, who were intimately familiar with the pre-CU engine and coding, could not fully resolve the problems then there's no hope they'll ever be resolved with the new developers who have little to no experience working with the old engine.