Unlike most MMOGs, it would be extremely hard to merge servers in SWG. To start, each server has several unique properties. Each server has it's own unique resources. All items in the game are unique. Housing, is a big problem. How are you going to merge 4 servers when each one has 1000 houses around Coronet?
I think they will merge servers, but it's an extremely difficult thing to do in SWG, if possible at all.
John Smedley arranged face to face meetings with disgruntled players and told them he was going to fast track server mergers. That was about a year ago.
Before arranging those meeting, and making this statement to them all, he should have consulted with his development team to explore the feasibility of his plan.
Evidently he didn't do this, or he was misinformed by his dev team. I don't work there, so I don't know which. The end result was, however, that he assembled a group of already disgruntled players and promised something to them that he couldn't, and hasn't delivered on. Anyone who is aware of the sad history of this game will realize what a huge mistake (yes another one) that was.
How Smedley got his job is beyond me, it's like hiring a guy that says he can lift 80+ lbs just so he can get the job but really can't or doesn't do a good job of it.
Smedley need to stick his head in the toilet and flush.. seriously With all collective negative energy being focused at him by scores of disgruntled ex-players, I'm surprised his head hasn't imploded... makes me doubt some of the 'you create reality' metaphysics theories because it hasn't.
Honestly though.. I'm tickled to death that SWG still can't get it right. I feel vindicated that they even had to consider server mergers. Fact is though, almost every person I know that quit with the NGE has went back to the game at some point, and quit again because Kauri is dead. I know of one person who transferred off, but everyone else doesn't want to pay to play on a more populated server because SOE ran the player population away. Don't merge servers.. whatever. They might as well close Kauri down because former players on that server are not going to resub to go back to it.
Originally posted by PhyluxiaAs i said, i understand your frustration, but at this point it's literally just a drawn out diatrabe so that when the invenitable happens you guys can jump and and say "WE TOLD YOU SO!"
I hate to break your bubble, but the NGE is long long long past the "WE TOLD YOU SO!" stage. Anyone can point at SWG right now, last year or 6 months after the NGE and say that statement and it will be 100% true.
No one is waiting for SWG to shut down just to say I told you so, that has already happened.
Perhaps what is needed to quell the flames of SOE hatred is for SOE to come out and start making some peace offerings and then follow through on it (treating customers with some respect). Maybe they could go on G4TV where they scoffed at the angry players and made fun of them and instead this time, they could come with hat in hand and apologize. That would be a nice START to ending this mess.
All that said, when SWG does close down it will be a final sigh of relief.
To anyone that says "get over it, move on", please do the same to SOE and tell them to stop trying to invite the vets back with free trial offers. It is a two way street you know.
I'd just like to add in the obligatory "who cares?" to this typical thread. We get it. You hate SOE. You made a big blog about it. You're the people's champion (tho 99% of said people think you're a giant tool). Keep pumping in these useless waste of space posts! (much like mine).
Yup, if you don't care, feel free to move along.
Couldnt agree more and i hate tossing my hat into these posts, but i really just want to know when it'll stop. It's not so much an issue that i dont care. It's more like why do some people care so much? I understand the situation and what went down, but how long does it take to get over it? Most relationship break-ups dont take this long to get over... and i promise you drop a lot more money in those than you did in SWG.
What business is it of yours? Why does what other people say on an internet forum bother you so much you need to post your erzatz psychoanalyisis of them? Why do you need to resort to namecalling over it?
If you hate tossing your hat in, who DO you?
Your behavior makes far less sense than the other people here.
Because it clutters up the forums and prevents me from finding useful information that i may be trying to obtain? Point is: the whole song and dance you all are putting on is old and tired. As i said, i understand your frustration, but at this point it's literally just a drawn out diatrabe so that when the invenitable happens you guys can jump and and say "WE TOLD YOU SO!"
It would be one thing if it were different people coming here and posting their displeasure, but it isnt. It's the same 10 cronies posting over and over and over and over and over about each and every little thing that they find as a fault with a game they stopped playing years ago and about a company they hate. Take this thread for example. A dev wanted to keep a thread on topic and since the OP didnt like that answer, he comes here and posts yet another rant about how bad SWG has become and how little SOE cares about babies and puppies.
You are more than welcome to question my motives (which i question myself), but everything i've witnessed thus far borders on obsession... over a dead game.
Actually...... this is the veteran refuge. Many who come here come here to talk about a game that was. If you want to find other information, there are other forums that you can go into.
So it's people complaining about people complaining.
I'd just like to add in the obligatory "who cares?" to this typical thread. We get it. You hate SOE. You made a big blog about it. You're the people's champion (tho 99% of said people think you're a giant tool). Keep pumping in these useless waste of space posts! (much like mine).
Yup, if you don't care, feel free to move along.
Couldnt agree more and i hate tossing my hat into these posts, but i really just want to know when it'll stop. It's not so much an issue that i dont care. It's more like why do some people care so much? I understand the situation and what went down, but how long does it take to get over it? Most relationship break-ups dont take this long to get over... and i promise you drop a lot more money in those than you did in SWG.
What business is it of yours? Why does what other people say on an internet forum bother you so much you need to post your erzatz psychoanalyisis of them? Why do you need to resort to namecalling over it?
If you hate tossing your hat in, who DO you?
Your behavior makes far less sense than the other people here.
Because it clutters up the forums and prevents me from finding useful information that i may be trying to obtain? Point is: the whole song and dance you all are putting on is old and tired. As i said, i understand your frustration, but at this point it's literally just a drawn out diatrabe so that when the invenitable happens you guys can jump and and say "WE TOLD YOU SO!"
It would be one thing if it were different people coming here and posting their displeasure, but it isnt. It's the same 10 cronies posting over and over and over and over and over about each and every little thing that they find as a fault with a game they stopped playing years ago and about a company they hate. Take this thread for example. A dev wanted to keep a thread on topic and since the OP didnt like that answer, he comes here and posts yet another rant about how bad SWG has become and how little SOE cares about babies and puppies.
You are more than welcome to question my motives (which i question myself), but everything i've witnessed thus far borders on obsession... over a dead game.
I support griefers and I wanted to speak up for them because I and probably many like myself come to forums like this all over the internet to laugh at how much we collectively hate SOE. In part because we hate SOE, and in part to know we aren't alone in our hatred.
Now why do we do it on forums like this? Because SOE won't let us do it on their forums. I'll tell you right now it would almost be worth it to subscibe to them purely to post as many posts as I can telling them that I want a rollback/classic servers if they wouldn't ban me for it. And I said almost because I know how SOE listens to it's paying subscribers.
So these people speak for us on our behalves, and even though there may only be 10 of them posting, there are 100s if not 1000s of them still reading and I'd personally like to vouch for that fact. Look at me, my join date, my post date, I am not one to feel the need to be heard on every thread of every forum in the know universe. But when I do speak up I feel very strongly about what I'm saying.
This is a forum that has graciously been given to us by MMORPG.com for this, among other, purposes, since soo many of us desire it, and since SOE doesn't have the balls to let us do it on their servers, not even if we paid them!
So don't dare to presume that these people are alone in their need to express such feelings of hatred untowards the evil empire. There are many of us that read this and feel a sense of vindication in the expressions of others, that there are still others who are still fuming mad about how we were treated and what they did to us. Reading these posts, many of which are valid even if repetitive, makes others as well as myself feel just a little bit happier. So to you griefers, GRIEF ON! And F SOE!
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system. ...and making SWG a better place to be
Dev's responses was arrogant and ignorant and then there are still some who still don't understand where the source of this negative feelings come from .
To them, re-read the answer of that poon plz to a very serious and rational concern of a CUSTOMER !
But feelings are blind if not actions following them.
So hit the arrogant $OE poons hard and cause them there pain where they feel it.. in their pocket .
Cancel subscriptions ! don't agree to the EULA , clean you ambience from $ONY/$OE products like you would sweep the dirt away and spread the word of such an immoral company .
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people?At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question? so you come here to troll disenfranchised gamers? nice to see one of you corporate fanbois admit it.
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?so you come here to troll disenfranchised gamers? nice to see one of you corporate fanbois admit it.
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?so you come here to troll disenfranchised gamers? nice to see one of you corporate fanbois admit it.
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.
yet again pass over the point! if this game was good we could say ANYTHING and people would still play.
do you think if the same things were said about wow that it would "shut the game down?". no. because it is a quality game and no ammout of bad press can change that. and as far as propaganda goes saying
soe/la have and continue to do a lousy job....is fact. denying it is at the core of your and others obsessive
coporate fanboism.
show me screenies of hundreds enjoying the nge.
show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from the forums.
show me lots of posts from ANY site that covers swg where the players have good things to say about the nge.
show me vets returning to the game and STAYING.
you can't.
if the game was as fun as you claim you yourself would be playing RIGHT NOW. i know i didn't even bother signing up to any forums until soe took a dump on the players.
is it more fun to troll us vets than to play? eh? having problems finding a group? maybe you logged out because you got sick of lag? a 4 year old bug? specials not working?
Saay and other fanbois just beg to see the question/comment again..so here is it..
(and i' ll underline the fact in game customer on the official boards!!!)
Ceras wrote:
start merge some servers , this will bring nothing when its empty on a galaxie you can search for nothing !
There is no hate in this question , they hate comes in that moment into this after the ignorant and arrogant response of the $OE official.
If you need a source for hate you ll find it within the company of $OE .
on a side note the strategy of blame the vets becoming old and with every day passes.... more and more ridiculous...
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?so you come here to troll disenfranchised gamers? nice to see one of you corporate fanbois admit it.
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.
yet again pass over the point! if this game was good we could say ANYTHING and people would still play.
do you think if the same things were said about wow that it would "shut the game down?". no. because it is a quality game and no ammout of bad press can change that. and as far as propaganda goes saying
soe/la have and continue to do a lousy job....is fact. denying it is at the core of your and others obsessive
coporate fanboism.
show me screenies of hundreds enjoying the nge.
show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from the forums.
show me lots of posts from ANY site that covers swg where the players have good things to say about the nge.
show me vets returning to the game and STAYING.
you can't.
if the game was as fun as you claim you yourself would be playing RIGHT NOW. i know i didn't even bother signing up to any forums until soe took a dump on the players.
is it more fun to troll us vets than to play? eh? having problems finding a group? maybe you logged out because you got sick of lag? a 4 year old bug? specials not working?
I believe if the same proportion of those playing WoW made the same noise after a change, it would definitely affect the game. Saying SOE have continued to do a lousy job is NOT a fact, its an opinion - and there are many who have praised SOE for many of the things they have added recently. I will attempt to do all those things when i have some time - i wont be able to show 100s filling my screen, thats unlikely (multiple 100s would have been hard Pre-Cu) but just because numbers on screen dont rate in the 100s doesnt mean the game has 9k subs lol! links to the forums should be easy. Not sure how to show you the vets, but i could give some examples from my own server. Again, you use the rubbish argument "if its so good why arent you playing it now?" - because i dont play it 24/7 i like to vary my life, sorry i dont spend my entire time doing one thing. I dont have problems finding a group thanks - done Exar (attempted) and the other instances almost every day for a while now. I have no lag, ive good a reasonably good comp and my specials always work thanks.
saay you said ". I dont have problems finding a group thanks - done Exar (attempted) and the other instances almost every day for a while now. I have no lag, ive good a reasonably good comp and my specials always work thanks. "
Now you just shot yourself in the foot your telling b*llsh*t now. swg is a lag fest, its very hard to find a group, and the part the specials allways fire absolute bull.
Look you need to stop telling lies people only need to visit the soe forums of swg to read the latest testimony of how the game is playing and watch post getting deleted with negative tones LIVE.
i can only assume you are an soe plant spouting such obvious drivel, i will give you the benefit of doubt over your pc though!
Originally posted by xacova saay you said ". I dont have problems finding a group thanks - done Exar (attempted) and the other instances almost every day for a while now. I have no lag, ive good a reasonably good comp and my specials always work thanks. " Now you just shot yourself in the foot your telling b*llsh*t now. swg is a lag fest, its very hard to find a group, and the part the specials allways fire absolute bull. Look you need to stop telling lies people only need to visit the soe forums of swg to read the latest testimony of how the game is playing and watch post getting deleted with negative tones LIVE. i can only assume you are an soe plant spouting such obvious drivel, i will give you the benefit of doubt over your pc though!
I find his quote a wee bit odd too, with my system AMD X2 5000+ 4GB ram and GeForce 8800GT on Vista64, I still got lag in SWG with random freezes and delays between actions and with the network status window open it sits at 30fps. I don't experience any of this in Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes at max graphics settings and average 60-some fps and I can even run fraps without any lag, seems the fps cap is what causes the lag or bad client to server communication coding.
What's funny is pre-CU I was playing SWG on an AMD Duron 900 with 1.5GB ram and Windows XP at the time, rarely got lag unless it was in a crowded zone like Theed (yes it was once CROWDED on a regular basis), or at a pvp live event (like Lowca's Lost Battle of Lok which had 200+ show up).
saay you said ". I dont have problems finding a group thanks - done Exar (attempted) and the other instances almost every day for a while now. I have no lag, ive good a reasonably good comp and my specials always work thanks. "
Now you just shot yourself in the foot your telling b*llsh*t now. swg is a lag fest, its very hard to find a group, and the part the specials allways fire absolute bull.
Look you need to stop telling lies people only need to visit the soe forums of swg to read the latest testimony of how the game is playing and watch post getting deleted with negative tones LIVE.
i can only assume you are an soe plant spouting such obvious drivel, i will give you the benefit of doubt over your pc though!
I find his quote a wee bit odd too, with my system AMD X2 5000+ 4GB ram and GeForce 8800GT on Vista64, I still got lag in SWG with random freezes and delays between actions and with the network status window open it sits at 30fps. I don't experience any of this in Tabula Rasa and City of Heroes at max graphics settings and average 60-some fps and I can even run fraps without any lag, seems the fps cap is what causes the lag or bad client to server communication coding.
What's funny is pre-CU I was playing SWG on an AMD Duron 900 with 1.5GB ram and Windows XP at the time, rarely got lag unless it was in a crowded zone like Theed (yes it was once CROWDED on a regular basis), or at a pvp live event (like Lowca's Lost Battle of Lok which had 200+ show up).
I currently run an amd 6000+, 4gb, and a g92 8800gts 512mb, with xp 64 and i don't encounter any of the problems you have discussed. - Is your 5000+ a black edition, and is it overclocked?
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
Originally posted by Sam123jo0123 I currently run an amd 6000+, 4gb, and a g92 8800gts 512mb, with xp 64 and i don't encounter any of the problems you have discussed. - Is your 5000+ a black edition, and is it overclocked?
No, I see no point in overclocking these days, it's not the Celeron corner-cutting days anymore. It randomly froze for several seconds or longer in places like Mining outpost or running out of a starport in Mos Eisley or something, with this system it shouldn't even happen with a game that's almost 5 years old.
I currently run an amd 6000+, 4gb, and a g92 8800gts 512mb, with xp 64 and i don't encounter any of the problems you have discussed. - Is your 5000+ a black edition, and is it overclocked?
No, I see no point in overclocking these days, it's not the Celeron corner-cutting days anymore. It randomly froze for several seconds or longer in places like Mining outpost or running out of a starport in Mos Eisley or something, with this system it shouldn't even happen with a game that's almost 5 years old.
Perhaps its a conflict with an old game such as SWG and vista 64, I wouldn't know as i havn't tried vista, but i hear it's buggy.
I used vista once on my laptop to play an old 97 game and even with the new system the game lagged.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Why do you think we've not played it recently? Almost everyday you fanbois keep saying that but it's unequivocally untrue. Let me point out once again, that I and every other vet gets approximately 3 or 4 free months of free playtime every year. I for one use mine. So will you stop using this argument. It's just too weak.
That being said, I've said many times, SWG as we know it today "isn't that bad". I've given it a fair shot, and will continue to do so whenever SOE deems it's time to roll out another Vet-trial. I WANT it to be good. Many of us do. It's not that bad, but it's really not good. The reason I can honestly say that is that we Vets have one helluva reference point to compare the current SWG to. The game we had WAS good. It was GREAT. I keep going back on the Vet-trials to find nothings changed, only more diversions and chotchky's being added to waste peoples time and get their money.
You fanboi's can't seem to grasp why we Vets are so angry. You think we could simply go back and enjoy the game. While I will admit there is SOME enjoyment left in the game (left over from Pre-CU days), logging in is just an insult to those that really enjoyed it back then. At every turn there's a slap in the face reminding us that our great experience was taken away from us. I can see how someone who's never played SWG before could log in and think it's a bit fascinating. There's some neat stuff to see and do. But it was a whole lot better before. So you fanboi's say to yourselves 'so they don't like it anymore, why can't they just go away then? Yes, they were ripped off, but can't they just get over it?'.
No, we can't just get over it. Why? Because we love MMOs. We enjoy an economy where we as consumers have the power to stop sh*t like this from happening repeatedly. We were ripped off, and we don't want to be ripped off again. SOE needs to be made an example of, for the good of all MMO fans. It's the way our market works. SOE took one for the whole MMO development community here. They learned a lesson, and hopefully, other developers have too. We just want to make sure the lesson is learned. Personally, I feel in order to know for sure SOE has had their nose rubbed in it, is to see SWG shut-down. Nothing personal against the majority of current SWG subbers.
So you like the NGE, that's fine. I've played them both (I've actually played the NGE almost as much as Pre-CU... but I paid for Pre-CU), and I can tell you, Pre-CU was better, far better. Just know that SOE took a world from us to give a game to you. Yet you still scratch your head and can't figure it out. So we will carry on spreading the gospel until long after SWG is gone (although I do imagine we'll quiet down once SWG is shutdown). So if you're tired of us bitching about SWG, pray it gets shut down soon.
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Why do you think we've not played it recently? Almost everyday you fanbois keep saying that but it's unequivocally untrue. Let me point out once again, that I and every other vet gets approximately 3 or 4 free months of free playtime every year. I for one use mine. So will you stop using this argument. It's just too weak.
That being said, I've said many times, SWG as we know it today "isn't that bad". I've given it a fair shot, and will continue to do so whenever SOE deems it's time to roll out another Vet-trial. I WANT it to be good. Many of us do. It's not that bad, but it's really not good. The reason I can honestly say that is that we Vets have one helluva reference point to compare the current SWG to. The game we had WAS good. It was GREAT. I keep going back on the Vet-trials to find nothings changed, only more diversions and chotchky's being added to waste peoples time and get their money.
You fanboi's can't seem to grasp why we Vets are so angry. You think we could simply go back and enjoy the game. While I will admit there is SOME enjoyment left in the game (left over from Pre-CU days), logging in is just an insult to those that really enjoyed it back then. At every turn there's a slap in the face reminding us that our great experience was taken away from us. I can see how someone who's never played SWG before could log in and think it's a bit fascinating. There's some neat stuff to see and do. But it was a whole lot better before. So you fanboi's say to yourselves 'so they don't like it anymore, why can't they just go away then? Yes, they were ripped off, but can't they just get over it?'.
No, we can't just get over it. Why? Because we love MMOs. We enjoy an economy where we as consumers have the power to stop sh*t like this from happening repeatedly. We were ripped off, and we don't want to be ripped off again. SOE needs to be made an example of, for the good of all MMO fans. It's the way our market works. SOE took one for the whole MMO development community here. They learned a lesson, and hopefully, other developers have too. We just want to make sure the lesson is learned. Personally, I feel in order to know for sure SOE has had their nose rubbed in it, is to see SWG shut-down. Nothing personal against the majority of current SWG subbers.
So you like the NGE, that's fine. I've played them both (I've actually played the NGE almost as much as Pre-CU... but I paid for Pre-CU), and I can tell you, Pre-CU was better, far better. Just know that SOE took a world from us to give a game to you. Yet you still scratch your head and can't figure it out. So we will carry on spreading the gospel until long after SWG is gone (although I do imagine we'll quiet down once SWG is shutdown). So if you're tired of us bitching about SWG, pray it gets shut down soon.
Every vet trial I've been on, I've run into post NGE players who ask me about somethng my avatar is wearing, has equipped, or is riding.
I'll answer their questions, and this leads to me telling them about preNGE SWG.
Invariably, the player only exposed to the NGE will comment about how cool all that old preNGE SWG sounds. How much richer that world seems to them. The proof is the savage humbaba I'm riding, or the collector's edition goggles, or the Imperial officer cap.
The game is vastly inferior to what came before, and is every bit as buggy as people complained it was prior to the NGE.
So the NGE didn't fix the real problems of pre NGE SWG. It just gave them a new, less complicated (but apparently no less difficult to maintain) skin.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Originally posted by saay Originally posted by FishermageOnce again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people?At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Sure, it just seems you have picked some pretty unethical people to defend.
Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people? At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Sure, it just seems you have picked some pretty unethical people to defend.
For myself, I decided that I couldn't defend the current game offered by the current management at SOE. If that means I'm without a StarWars MMO experience, so be it.
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Before arranging those meeting, and making this statement to them all, he should have consulted with his development team to explore the feasibility of his plan.
Evidently he didn't do this, or he was misinformed by his dev team. I don't work there, so I don't know which. The end result was, however, that he assembled a group of already disgruntled players and promised something to them that he couldn't, and hasn't delivered on. Anyone who is aware of the sad history of this game will realize what a huge mistake (yes another one) that was.
How Smedley got his job is beyond me, it's like hiring a guy that says he can lift 80+ lbs just so he can get the job but really can't or doesn't do a good job of it.
Smedley need to stick his head in the toilet and flush.. seriously
With all collective negative energy being focused at him by scores of disgruntled ex-players, I'm surprised his head hasn't imploded... makes me doubt some of the 'you create reality' metaphysics theories because it hasn't.
Honestly though.. I'm tickled to death that SWG still can't get it right. I feel vindicated that they even had to consider server mergers. Fact is though, almost every person I know that quit with the NGE has went back to the game at some point, and quit again because Kauri is dead. I know of one person who transferred off, but everyone else doesn't want to pay to play on a more populated server because SOE ran the player population away. Don't merge servers.. whatever. They might as well close Kauri down because former players on that server are not going to resub to go back to it.
No one is waiting for SWG to shut down just to say I told you so, that has already happened.
Perhaps what is needed to quell the flames of SOE hatred is for SOE to come out and start making some peace offerings and then follow through on it (treating customers with some respect). Maybe they could go on G4TV where they scoffed at the angry players and made fun of them and instead this time, they could come with hat in hand and apologize. That would be a nice START to ending this mess.
All that said, when SWG does close down it will be a final sigh of relief.
To anyone that says "get over it, move on", please do the same to SOE and tell them to stop trying to invite the vets back with free trial offers. It is a two way street you know.
Couldnt agree more and i hate tossing my hat into these posts, but i really just want to know when it'll stop. It's not so much an issue that i dont care. It's more like why do some people care so much? I understand the situation and what went down, but how long does it take to get over it? Most relationship break-ups dont take this long to get over... and i promise you drop a lot more money in those than you did in SWG.
What business is it of yours? Why does what other people say on an internet forum bother you so much you need to post your erzatz psychoanalyisis of them? Why do you need to resort to namecalling over it?
If you hate tossing your hat in, who DO you?
Your behavior makes far less sense than the other people here.
Because it clutters up the forums and prevents me from finding useful information that i may be trying to obtain? Point is: the whole song and dance you all are putting on is old and tired. As i said, i understand your frustration, but at this point it's literally just a drawn out diatrabe so that when the invenitable happens you guys can jump and and say "WE TOLD YOU SO!"
It would be one thing if it were different people coming here and posting their displeasure, but it isnt. It's the same 10 cronies posting over and over and over and over and over about each and every little thing that they find as a fault with a game they stopped playing years ago and about a company they hate. Take this thread for example. A dev wanted to keep a thread on topic and since the OP didnt like that answer, he comes here and posts yet another rant about how bad SWG has become and how little SOE cares about babies and puppies.
You are more than welcome to question my motives (which i question myself), but everything i've witnessed thus far borders on obsession... over a dead game.
Actually...... this is the veteran refuge. Many who come here come here to talk about a game that was. If you want to find other information, there are other forums that you can go into.
So it's people complaining about people complaining.
Couldnt agree more and i hate tossing my hat into these posts, but i really just want to know when it'll stop. It's not so much an issue that i dont care. It's more like why do some people care so much? I understand the situation and what went down, but how long does it take to get over it? Most relationship break-ups dont take this long to get over... and i promise you drop a lot more money in those than you did in SWG.
What business is it of yours? Why does what other people say on an internet forum bother you so much you need to post your erzatz psychoanalyisis of them? Why do you need to resort to namecalling over it?
If you hate tossing your hat in, who DO you?
Your behavior makes far less sense than the other people here.
Because it clutters up the forums and prevents me from finding useful information that i may be trying to obtain? Point is: the whole song and dance you all are putting on is old and tired. As i said, i understand your frustration, but at this point it's literally just a drawn out diatrabe so that when the invenitable happens you guys can jump and and say "WE TOLD YOU SO!"
It would be one thing if it were different people coming here and posting their displeasure, but it isnt. It's the same 10 cronies posting over and over and over and over and over about each and every little thing that they find as a fault with a game they stopped playing years ago and about a company they hate. Take this thread for example. A dev wanted to keep a thread on topic and since the OP didnt like that answer, he comes here and posts yet another rant about how bad SWG has become and how little SOE cares about babies and puppies.
You are more than welcome to question my motives (which i question myself), but everything i've witnessed thus far borders on obsession... over a dead game.
I support griefers and I wanted to speak up for them because I and probably many like myself come to forums like this all over the internet to laugh at how much we collectively hate SOE. In part because we hate SOE, and in part to know we aren't alone in our hatred.
Now why do we do it on forums like this? Because SOE won't let us do it on their forums. I'll tell you right now it would almost be worth it to subscibe to them purely to post as many posts as I can telling them that I want a rollback/classic servers if they wouldn't ban me for it. And I said almost because I know how SOE listens to it's paying subscribers.
So these people speak for us on our behalves, and even though there may only be 10 of them posting, there are 100s if not 1000s of them still reading and I'd personally like to vouch for that fact. Look at me, my join date, my post date, I am not one to feel the need to be heard on every thread of every forum in the know universe. But when I do speak up I feel very strongly about what I'm saying.
This is a forum that has graciously been given to us by MMORPG.com for this, among other, purposes, since soo many of us desire it, and since SOE doesn't have the balls to let us do it on their servers, not even if we paid them!
So don't dare to presume that these people are alone in their need to express such feelings of hatred untowards the evil empire. There are many of us that read this and feel a sense of vindication in the expressions of others, that there are still others who are still fuming mad about how we were treated and what they did to us. Reading these posts, many of which are valid even if repetitive, makes others as well as myself feel just a little bit happier. So to you griefers, GRIEF ON! And F SOE!
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be
Dev's responses was arrogant and ignorant and then there are still some who still don't understand where the source of this negative feelings come from .
To them, re-read the answer of that poon plz to a very serious and rational concern of a CUSTOMER !
But feelings are blind if not actions following them.
So hit the arrogant $OE poons hard and cause them there pain where they feel it.. in their pocket .
Cancel subscriptions ! don't agree to the EULA , clean you ambience from $ONY/$OE products like you would sweep the dirt away and spread the word of such an immoral company .
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
http://www.soesucks.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.Cool.
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.
yet again pass over the point! if this game was good we could say ANYTHING and people would still play.do you think if the same things were said about wow that it would "shut the game down?". no. because it is a quality game and no ammout of bad press can change that. and as far as propaganda goes saying
soe/la have and continue to do a lousy job....is fact. denying it is at the core of your and others obsessive
coporate fanboism.
show me screenies of hundreds enjoying the nge.
show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from the forums.
show me lots of posts from ANY site that covers swg where the players have good things to say about the nge.
show me vets returning to the game and STAYING.
you can't.
if the game was as fun as you claim you yourself would be playing RIGHT NOW. i know i didn't even bother signing up to any forums until soe took a dump on the players.
is it more fun to troll us vets than to play? eh? having problems finding a group? maybe you logged out because you got sick of lag? a 4 year old bug? specials not working?
http://www.soesucks.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10
Saay and other fanbois just beg to see the question/comment again..so here is it..
(and i' ll underline the fact in game customer on the official boards!!!)
Ceras wrote:
There is no hate in this question , they hate comes in that moment into this after the ignorant and arrogant response of the $OE official.
If you need a source for hate you ll find it within the company of $OE .
on a side note the strategy of blame the vets becoming old and with every day passes.... more and more ridiculous...
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Better make that "show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from more than the three fanbois who post glowing review of everything SOE does"
if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.
and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except
we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or
soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for
letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?
sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.
but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.
Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.
yet again pass over the point! if this game was good we could say ANYTHING and people would still play.do you think if the same things were said about wow that it would "shut the game down?". no. because it is a quality game and no ammout of bad press can change that. and as far as propaganda goes saying
soe/la have and continue to do a lousy job....is fact. denying it is at the core of your and others obsessive
coporate fanboism.
show me screenies of hundreds enjoying the nge.
show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from the forums.
show me lots of posts from ANY site that covers swg where the players have good things to say about the nge.
show me vets returning to the game and STAYING.
you can't.
if the game was as fun as you claim you yourself would be playing RIGHT NOW. i know i didn't even bother signing up to any forums until soe took a dump on the players.
is it more fun to troll us vets than to play? eh? having problems finding a group? maybe you logged out because you got sick of lag? a 4 year old bug? specials not working?
I believe if the same proportion of those playing WoW made the same noise after a change, it would definitely affect the game. Saying SOE have continued to do a lousy job is NOT a fact, its an opinion - and there are many who have praised SOE for many of the things they have added recently. I will attempt to do all those things when i have some time - i wont be able to show 100s filling my screen, thats unlikely (multiple 100s would have been hard Pre-Cu) but just because numbers on screen dont rate in the 100s doesnt mean the game has 9k subs lol! links to the forums should be easy. Not sure how to show you the vets, but i could give some examples from my own server. Again, you use the rubbish argument "if its so good why arent you playing it now?" - because i dont play it 24/7 i like to vary my life, sorry i dont spend my entire time doing one thing. I dont have problems finding a group thanks - done Exar (attempted) and the other instances almost every day for a while now. I have no lag, ive good a reasonably good comp and my specials always work thanks.
Now you just shot yourself in the foot your telling b*llsh*t now. swg is a lag fest, its very hard to find a group, and the part the specials allways fire absolute bull.
Look you need to stop telling lies people only need to visit the soe forums of swg to read the latest testimony of how the game is playing and watch post getting deleted with negative tones LIVE.
i can only assume you are an soe plant spouting such obvious drivel, i will give you the benefit of doubt over your pc though!
What's funny is pre-CU I was playing SWG on an AMD Duron 900 with 1.5GB ram and Windows XP at the time, rarely got lag unless it was in a crowded zone like Theed (yes it was once CROWDED on a regular basis), or at a pvp live event (like Lowca's Lost Battle of Lok which had 200+ show up).
What's funny is pre-CU I was playing SWG on an AMD Duron 900 with 1.5GB ram and Windows XP at the time, rarely got lag unless it was in a crowded zone like Theed (yes it was once CROWDED on a regular basis), or at a pvp live event (like Lowca's Lost Battle of Lok which had 200+ show up).
I currently run an amd 6000+, 4gb, and a g92 8800gts 512mb, with xp 64 and i don't encounter any of the problems you have discussed. - Is your 5000+ a black edition, and is it overclocked?
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
Perhaps its a conflict with an old game such as SWG and vista 64, I wouldn't know as i havn't tried vista, but i hear it's buggy.
I used vista once on my laptop to play an old 97 game and even with the new system the game lagged.
Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?
Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?Why do you think we've not played it recently? Almost everyday you fanbois keep saying that but it's unequivocally untrue. Let me point out once again, that I and every other vet gets approximately 3 or 4 free months of free playtime every year. I for one use mine. So will you stop using this argument. It's just too weak.
That being said, I've said many times, SWG as we know it today "isn't that bad". I've given it a fair shot, and will continue to do so whenever SOE deems it's time to roll out another Vet-trial. I WANT it to be good. Many of us do. It's not that bad, but it's really not good. The reason I can honestly say that is that we Vets have one helluva reference point to compare the current SWG to. The game we had WAS good. It was GREAT. I keep going back on the Vet-trials to find nothings changed, only more diversions and chotchky's being added to waste peoples time and get their money.
You fanboi's can't seem to grasp why we Vets are so angry. You think we could simply go back and enjoy the game. While I will admit there is SOME enjoyment left in the game (left over from Pre-CU days), logging in is just an insult to those that really enjoyed it back then. At every turn there's a slap in the face reminding us that our great experience was taken away from us. I can see how someone who's never played SWG before could log in and think it's a bit fascinating. There's some neat stuff to see and do. But it was a whole lot better before. So you fanboi's say to yourselves 'so they don't like it anymore, why can't they just go away then? Yes, they were ripped off, but can't they just get over it?'.
No, we can't just get over it. Why? Because we love MMOs. We enjoy an economy where we as consumers have the power to stop sh*t like this from happening repeatedly. We were ripped off, and we don't want to be ripped off again. SOE needs to be made an example of, for the good of all MMO fans. It's the way our market works. SOE took one for the whole MMO development community here. They learned a lesson, and hopefully, other developers have too. We just want to make sure the lesson is learned. Personally, I feel in order to know for sure SOE has had their nose rubbed in it, is to see SWG shut-down. Nothing personal against the majority of current SWG subbers.
So you like the NGE, that's fine. I've played them both (I've actually played the NGE almost as much as Pre-CU... but I paid for Pre-CU), and I can tell you, Pre-CU was better, far better. Just know that SOE took a world from us to give a game to you. Yet you still scratch your head and can't figure it out. So we will carry on spreading the gospel until long after SWG is gone (although I do imagine we'll quiet down once SWG is shutdown). So if you're tired of us bitching about SWG, pray it gets shut down soon.
Why do you think we've not played it recently? Almost everyday you fanbois keep saying that but it's unequivocally untrue. Let me point out once again, that I and every other vet gets approximately 3 or 4 free months of free playtime every year. I for one use mine. So will you stop using this argument. It's just too weak.
That being said, I've said many times, SWG as we know it today "isn't that bad". I've given it a fair shot, and will continue to do so whenever SOE deems it's time to roll out another Vet-trial. I WANT it to be good. Many of us do. It's not that bad, but it's really not good. The reason I can honestly say that is that we Vets have one helluva reference point to compare the current SWG to. The game we had WAS good. It was GREAT. I keep going back on the Vet-trials to find nothings changed, only more diversions and chotchky's being added to waste peoples time and get their money.
You fanboi's can't seem to grasp why we Vets are so angry. You think we could simply go back and enjoy the game. While I will admit there is SOME enjoyment left in the game (left over from Pre-CU days), logging in is just an insult to those that really enjoyed it back then. At every turn there's a slap in the face reminding us that our great experience was taken away from us. I can see how someone who's never played SWG before could log in and think it's a bit fascinating. There's some neat stuff to see and do. But it was a whole lot better before. So you fanboi's say to yourselves 'so they don't like it anymore, why can't they just go away then? Yes, they were ripped off, but can't they just get over it?'.
No, we can't just get over it. Why? Because we love MMOs. We enjoy an economy where we as consumers have the power to stop sh*t like this from happening repeatedly. We were ripped off, and we don't want to be ripped off again. SOE needs to be made an example of, for the good of all MMO fans. It's the way our market works. SOE took one for the whole MMO development community here. They learned a lesson, and hopefully, other developers have too. We just want to make sure the lesson is learned. Personally, I feel in order to know for sure SOE has had their nose rubbed in it, is to see SWG shut-down. Nothing personal against the majority of current SWG subbers.
So you like the NGE, that's fine. I've played them both (I've actually played the NGE almost as much as Pre-CU... but I paid for Pre-CU), and I can tell you, Pre-CU was better, far better. Just know that SOE took a world from us to give a game to you. Yet you still scratch your head and can't figure it out. So we will carry on spreading the gospel until long after SWG is gone (although I do imagine we'll quiet down once SWG is shutdown). So if you're tired of us bitching about SWG, pray it gets shut down soon.
says it all for me nice bob!
Bob, I agree, great post.
Every vet trial I've been on, I've run into post NGE players who ask me about somethng my avatar is wearing, has equipped, or is riding.
I'll answer their questions, and this leads to me telling them about preNGE SWG.
Invariably, the player only exposed to the NGE will comment about how cool all that old preNGE SWG sounds. How much richer that world seems to them. The proof is the savage humbaba I'm riding, or the collector's edition goggles, or the Imperial officer cap.
The game is vastly inferior to what came before, and is every bit as buggy as people complained it was prior to the NGE.
So the NGE didn't fix the real problems of pre NGE SWG. It just gave them a new, less complicated (but apparently no less difficult to maintain) skin.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Sure, it just seems you have picked some pretty unethical people to defend.
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Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?
Sure, it just seems you have picked some pretty unethical people to defend.
For myself, I decided that I couldn't defend the current game offered by the current management at SOE. If that means I'm without a StarWars MMO experience, so be it.