Originally posted by Tarka Personally, I think people are being a little melodramatic about all this. Yes, its still in beta, no I'm not in beta. Do I give a rats ass that I'm not? Nope. Am I still going to buy it? Yep. Why? Because, like many other MMO players, I live in the reality that it won't be bug free at launch. People always start screaming how the devs should pull the plug on the latest MMO because its so buggy. Guess what? Bugs are to be expected. Crashing is to be expected. Even immediately after launch. Now, the real question is how fast Funcom deal with them? If you don't like the bugs, then don't play the game, wait for a few months and THEN play it. Yes, no doubt FUNCOM wont have a completely bug free launch. But seriously though, name one mainstream MMO that was completely bug free at launch. And please don't name WoW because that is a lie, the US launch was just as bad as others. The EU launch was better because Blizzard had ironed out a lot of problems by the time the EU launch came about. No matter how far back devs push a launch, there will always be issues that the devs didn't predict. Such is the life of owning a machine that is so customisable that making games for it is far, far more complex and more prone to bugs than trying to make a game for an X-Box where the configurations are far more alike. So, rather than just scream that the sky is falling, that Funcom lied, or that Elvis is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play the game, give the project a chance. Either that or don't play it. Now, if Funcom still haven't ironed out the crashing / corruption issues for the majority of players within 6 months, then we can start to compare it to the likes of Vanguard. Something tells me however, that Funcom ain't going to get to that situation. No company in their right mind would.
WoW made AO's launch look like cake and ice cream, WoW launch wasn't horrible compared to the other launches. Remember this is Funcom they have a track record and if it is anything like AO it wont be set for players till 2-3 months after launch.
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Personally, I think people are being a little melodramatic about all this. Yes, its still in beta, no I'm not in beta. Do I give a rats ass that I'm not? Nope. Am I still going to buy it? Yep. Why? Because, like many other MMO players, I live in the reality that it won't be bug free at launch. People always start screaming how the devs should pull the plug on the latest MMO because its so buggy. Guess what? Bugs are to be expected. Crashing is to be expected. Even immediately after launch. Now, the real question is how fast Funcom deal with them? If you don't like the bugs, then don't play the game, wait for a few months and THEN play it. Yes, no doubt FUNCOM wont have a completely bug free launch. But seriously though, name one mainstream MMO that was completely bug free at launch. And please don't name WoW because that is a lie, the US launch was just as bad as others. The EU launch was better because Blizzard had ironed out a lot of problems by the time the EU launch came about. No matter how far back devs push a launch, there will always be issues that the devs didn't predict. Such is the life of owning a machine that is so customisable that making games for it is far, far more complex and more prone to bugs than trying to make a game for an X-Box where the configurations are far more alike. So, rather than just scream that the sky is falling, that Funcom lied, or that Elvis is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play the game, give the project a chance. Either that or don't play it. Now, if Funcom still haven't ironed out the crashing / corruption issues for the majority of players within 6 months, then we can start to compare it to the likes of Vanguard. Something tells me however, that Funcom ain't going to get to that situation. No company in their right mind would.
The only reason why bugs are to be "expected" are, and I do not know any better way to say this, because of people like you. Game companies know that there are people who want to be seperated from their cash as soon as possible. They also know that there are individuals who are so desperate for a gaming fix that they will pay to beta test for them.
Originally posted by severius Originally posted by Tarka Personally, I think people are being a little melodramatic about all this. Yes, its still in beta, no I'm not in beta. Do I give a rats ass that I'm not? Nope. Am I still going to buy it? Yep. Why? Because, like many other MMO players, I live in the reality that it won't be bug free at launch. People always start screaming how the devs should pull the plug on the latest MMO because its so buggy. Guess what? Bugs are to be expected. Crashing is to be expected. Even immediately after launch. Now, the real question is how fast Funcom deal with them? If you don't like the bugs, then don't play the game, wait for a few months and THEN play it. Yes, no doubt FUNCOM wont have a completely bug free launch. But seriously though, name one mainstream MMO that was completely bug free at launch. And please don't name WoW because that is a lie, the US launch was just as bad as others. The EU launch was better because Blizzard had ironed out a lot of problems by the time the EU launch came about. No matter how far back devs push a launch, there will always be issues that the devs didn't predict. Such is the life of owning a machine that is so customisable that making games for it is far, far more complex and more prone to bugs than trying to make a game for an X-Box where the configurations are far more alike. So, rather than just scream that the sky is falling, that Funcom lied, or that Elvis is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play the game, give the project a chance. Either that or don't play it. Now, if Funcom still haven't ironed out the crashing / corruption issues for the majority of players within 6 months, then we can start to compare it to the likes of Vanguard. Something tells me however, that Funcom ain't going to get to that situation. No company in their right mind would.
The only reason why bugs are to be "expected" are, and I do not know any better way to say this, because of people like you. Game companies know that there are people who want to be seperated from their cash as soon as possible. They also know that there are individuals who are so desperate for a gaming fix that they will pay to beta test for them.
Well said, couldn't agree more.
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I actually can think of a very, very good marketing reason for opening the FP trial with an old client. But in all honesty I doubt that they are doing it. I also (despite being a 'pre-order') find it unlikely they will open with any client other than that which they are using now, no matter what they say.
But I guess we wont know until it launches. Also I don't expect a finished product on release and I don't consider myself easily parted with my cash, this is the nature of the beast as it stands in the industry at the moment and those talking about a problem free launch for WoW can't have been there. I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one given free time due to downtime, constant ctd's, 2+ hour ques.
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There are a few puzzling things to me that don't add up or make much marketing sense. First of all, why would Funcom make the FP open beta on an older client? And then suddenly lift the NDA so everyone can bitch about how crappy the older client is. This is everyone's first impression of the game, wtf were they thinking? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Whatever genius at Funcom decided that was a good idea needs to be fired.
I do agree with you here, but I think I can understand why they did some of these things. I get the impression that the Funcom people are actively watching the forums and listening to feedback from people. So many forum junkies were crying and whining for an open beta that I think Funcom finally broke down and got one together. I didn't get the impression that they were especially planning on doing a beta of this type until there was enough community outcry for them to do so. I honestly think that it was pretty rushed... and I think Funcom could have done a much better job preparing it.
You are right that this is the first impression for most people. It does not make much sense for them to just throw it together and hope for the best, but it definitely seems as though that it what happened. I also think something similar happened regarding the NDA. There was so much public outcry about the fact that the NDA had not been lifted that I think Funcom broke down and lifted it before they had intended to do so.
This is just my take on recent events and I know I may well be wrong... but they are certainly somewhat alarming. I wish more companies would adopt the blizzard approach of not releasing things until they're ready... whether that be the NDA or a sloppy open beta.
The only reason why bugs are to be "expected" are, and I do not know any better way to say this, because of people like you. Game companies know that there are people who want to be seperated from their cash as soon as possible. They also know that there are individuals who are so desperate for a gaming fix that they will pay to beta test for them.
Using such logic, if this was the case, then why did Funcom push back the launch if their main intention was to separate those desperate individuals from their cash as soon as possible? The answer is, that's obviously not their intentions.
No one is saying that you HAVE to buy the game from launch, I am certainly not saying it. But for people to start making assumptions that the latest MMO is a complete failure due to the problems that the game is having right now, is definately showing signs of melodrama.
What people forget is that the design focuses around the difficult concept of thousands of players being in the game world at the same time, the net code for an MMO makes net code for games like UT3 and Crysis look like Kindergaten scribbles (no offence to UT3 and Crysis, they are still great coding feats). Everytime the game changes whether due to balance, new technology in hardware, better mechanics it needs retesting and new problems crop up, it's just the nature of MMO development unfortunately.
At some point during the development cycle, the developers HAVE to make the difficult decision of either launching the game in its state at that time or keep pushing it further and further back. Then, due to mounting overheads and other pressures, they make the decision when to launch the game, even with its bugs. Are they doing this because their sole focus is on money and all they want is to fleece Joe Bloggs with as little effort as possible? No. All software companies (whether its games or other software) have to go through this (and to be honest, a lot of manufacturing companies have to make the same decisions as well).
Then along comes Joe Bloggs who screams how the game is bug ridden and makes implications that the developers deliberately launch a bug ridden game mainly because they are greedy sons of b*tches and don't care for the product itself and only want punters money.
The fact is, developers would LOVE to launch a completely bug free game, but the development cycle would never actually break out of the perpetual loop. Some people accept that, others don't.
the only serious issue with balance right now is stamina cost for melee vs casters. Melee attacks cost stamina, and casting costs mana. So when the caster decides to run for the hills with a full stamina pool the melee is tired out and cant catch them. Realistic....but annoying for us Conquerors.
One thing I will say - Funcom's lack of communication is disturbing. They don't tell you guys anything about anything, no answer why we are beta testing an "older" client, no answers on the rule sets of servers (now they showed a preview of what kind of rules they are considering for RP servers. Considering now? The game comes out in 3 weeks, better make the right decision!)
I'm not bashing AoC, I actually think the beta ran well even for an "old" version. Which in itself doesn't make sense, if they really wanted to stress the servers wouldn't they use the latest and most demanding build? Something doesn't smell right about that whole thing.
I really hope you guys have a good time playing AoC, because that's all that matters in the end. Looking to the future and what games are coming out, MMORPG's won't be the ones I'll be playing.
I think all this fuss that has been going on about the beta brings upon a popular phrase:
don't murder the candidate when they are going to commit suicide.
Like already mentioned, FC is practically putting a gun in their mouth with their choice to use an older client for stress testing, while lifting the NDA... no wonder so many freakin' haters have come out of nowhere, FC made a really stupid choice by doing this (though I have to say some of the hate is unjust, a good amount is).
What does really frighten me is FC's lack of communication on these issues... all we're hearing is rumors from both sides, such as the game will suck because of X, and the game will be alright because of Y, etc. They've been really lacking to give us any real information... all I've been seeing from them is BS when different sites ask them questions, so we have to find answers ourselves, which are usually completely off.
I am still going to try the game at release, and when I get the chance, play the open beta for myself to get an absolute decision. I don't think FC is stupid enough to not realize that once you remove the NDA they're going to be judging whatever they get... so I'm really thinking this really is all they really have to offer... really? Until we get some real info by release and when this is settled that I can judge whether I play the game fully or just switch to WAR when it comes out.
To make one thing sure - this is not older client. This is the last client.
Ok, everything I have read so far is saying the opposite that the file planet beta is using and older client and the closed beta had the current client. Can anyone else verify please? thanks!
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One thing I will say - Funcom's lack of communication is disturbing. They don't tell you guys anything about anything, no answer why we are beta testing an "older" client, no answers on the rule sets of servers (now they showed a preview of what kind of rules they are considering for RP servers. Considering now? The game comes out in 3 weeks, better make the right decision!) I'm not bashing AoC, I actually think the beta ran well even for an "old" version. Which in itself doesn't make sense, if they really wanted to stress the servers wouldn't they use the latest and most demanding build? Something doesn't smell right about that whole thing. I really hope you guys have a good time playing AoC, because that's all that matters in the end. Looking to the future and what games are coming out, MMORPG's won't be the ones I'll be playing.
Their poor, or lack of commnication is especially disturbing, which resulted in me cancellilng preorder. If you read the response regarding why they chose Fileplanet as their choice for launching beta, you will see what I can only describe as poor communication skills and fallacies in their arguments. This includes not answering questions directly and just being totally patronizing. It's one thing to be customer oriented, it's another to try to act like you care and will answer questions and concerns but am really just blowing smoke. That response has caused some stir on the forums previously.
Unless this company hass pi$$ poor PR, there can only be one good explanation for this lack of communication, and that is that they are scared of addressing these concerns. I think that is one of the reasons why they have not addressed the current issue regarding open beta issues.
I don't see how you can totally hype up a game by offereing "open beta", and not post updates regarding concerns 20 days from release...They may try to hide behind their veil but eventually this will all unravel.
I must admit I was among those who had high hopes for this game. But unfortunately my hopes dwindleded when they cut down on the majority of the classes; offered and advertised "open beta" through a provider which requires subscription fees; poorly addressed the concerns regarding their choice of going with this provider; and then released the "open beta" on what people claim are an older client and finally failing to address the glaring concerns of the community which is their potential client base.
I can only attribute this to bad management.
I hope this game turns out to be good, as I would love to play. But for now I am reserving judgement of the game until after release, but regarding judgement of the company, I must give it a thumbsdown.
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I enjoy the combat, you have to remember theres 80 levels lol... theres lots to do with your character. Is the combat perfect? no, but its an improvement over autoattack! combos make a big difference later, you don't get to see a lot at L 13 lol.
Personally I would rather have auto-attack, calling AoC's combat an improvement is just your opinion. To me, it just is more buttons you have to push. I guess I like autoattack better, while it is more boring it won't give me carpal tunnel from so much button mashing.
I enjoy the combat, you have to remember theres 80 levels lol... theres lots to do with your character. Is the combat perfect? no, but its an improvement over autoattack! combos make a big difference later, you don't get to see a lot at L 13 lol.
Personally I would rather have auto-attack, calling AoC's combat an improvement is just your opinion. To me, it just is more buttons you have to push. I guess I like autoattack better, while it is more boring it won't give me carpal tunnel from so much button mashing.
This comabt is actually one of the worst i ve seen.
I haven't decided yet but i'm kinda leaning toward getting it. I'm not used to the "semi-twitch" combat system yet and it does feel awkward a bit for me (I'm not a huge fan of twitch game) but if I play a spell caster then it won't really matter as spell casting isn't too twitchy I hope. I want to play the open beta till it ends before deciding.
Why would anyone pre order a game and then cancel they're pre order when its still in testing? You knew it was in testing when you pre ordered it and clearly its gonna be buggy hence the "testing"
Fact of the matter is just like every MMO I have played from open and or beta tested over the course of the last 13 years, these games change so much with in the first 1-3 months of going live. What doesn't change is the percentage of people that freak out pre release or with in the first week of going live and start shit talking a game. Most (not all) EXPERIENCED gamers/testers will agree 95% of the MMOs over the last decade were very buggy pre release. In addition to that, all games regardless or how old they are continue to release bug fix/patches every week. This isn't new to us (?)
Want my advise? relax... pay attention to the forums but don't take them to serious, I am sure we can all agree, some people like certain games or certain things about games that other people don't. This doesn't make a game bad. Be patient, alot of people are to quick to voice they're opinion because thats what the internet enables us to do (that or they have the attention span of a 5 year old). Wait for its release, try it out and make your own mind up. You can obviously afford to or you wouldn't have paid extra for the pre order to begin with.
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personaly speaking i think it looks good but from what i ve seen this game could be more at home on a consol . maybe the first great consol mmorpg . i ve an average pc it runs pretty well but not very well on my rig but then again some of the glitches i m getting could be down to it being in beta . as some on these forums have said most mmos have a few issues in the first months of release . warcraft included . i think i ll proberbly hang fire on conan till september maybe and see what the comments in the forums reviews etc are like or maybe wait untill theres a weeks free trial .
I don't know if it was because I was so pumped up about the game or what, but I am sooooo not impressed with this game so far. I'm disappointed too, because I thought it was going to be something really cool.
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WoW made AO's launch look like cake and ice cream, WoW launch wasn't horrible compared to the other launches. Remember this is Funcom they have a track record and if it is anything like AO it wont be set for players till 2-3 months after launch.
The only reason why bugs are to be "expected" are, and I do not know any better way to say this, because of people like you. Game companies know that there are people who want to be seperated from their cash as soon as possible. They also know that there are individuals who are so desperate for a gaming fix that they will pay to beta test for them.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
The only reason why bugs are to be "expected" are, and I do not know any better way to say this, because of people like you. Game companies know that there are people who want to be seperated from their cash as soon as possible. They also know that there are individuals who are so desperate for a gaming fix that they will pay to beta test for them.
Well said, couldn't agree more.
I actually can think of a very, very good marketing reason for opening the FP trial with an old client. But in all honesty I doubt that they are doing it. I also (despite being a 'pre-order') find it unlikely they will open with any client other than that which they are using now, no matter what they say.
But I guess we wont know until it launches. Also I don't expect a finished product on release and I don't consider myself easily parted with my cash, this is the nature of the beast as it stands in the industry at the moment and those talking about a problem free launch for WoW can't have been there. I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one given free time due to downtime, constant ctd's, 2+ hour ques.
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You are right that this is the first impression for most people. It does not make much sense for them to just throw it together and hope for the best, but it definitely seems as though that it what happened. I also think something similar happened regarding the NDA. There was so much public outcry about the fact that the NDA had not been lifted that I think Funcom broke down and lifted it before they had intended to do so.
This is just my take on recent events and I know I may well be wrong... but they are certainly somewhat alarming. I wish more companies would adopt the blizzard approach of not releasing things until they're ready... whether that be the NDA or a sloppy open beta.
Using such logic, if this was the case, then why did Funcom push back the launch if their main intention was to separate those desperate individuals from their cash as soon as possible? The answer is, that's obviously not their intentions.
No one is saying that you HAVE to buy the game from launch, I am certainly not saying it. But for people to start making assumptions that the latest MMO is a complete failure due to the problems that the game is having right now, is definately showing signs of melodrama.
What people forget is that the design focuses around the difficult concept of thousands of players being in the game world at the same time, the net code for an MMO makes net code for games like UT3 and Crysis look like Kindergaten scribbles (no offence to UT3 and Crysis, they are still great coding feats). Everytime the game changes whether due to balance, new technology in hardware, better mechanics it needs retesting and new problems crop up, it's just the nature of MMO development unfortunately.
At some point during the development cycle, the developers HAVE to make the difficult decision of either launching the game in its state at that time or keep pushing it further and further back. Then, due to mounting overheads and other pressures, they make the decision when to launch the game, even with its bugs. Are they doing this because their sole focus is on money and all they want is to fleece Joe Bloggs with as little effort as possible? No. All software companies (whether its games or other software) have to go through this (and to be honest, a lot of manufacturing companies have to make the same decisions as well).
Then along comes Joe Bloggs who screams how the game is bug ridden and makes implications that the developers deliberately launch a bug ridden game mainly because they are greedy sons of b*tches and don't care for the product itself and only want punters money.
The fact is, developers would LOVE to launch a completely bug free game, but the development cycle would never actually break out of the perpetual loop. Some people accept that, others don't.
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What do you base that on?
One thing I will say - Funcom's lack of communication is disturbing. They don't tell you guys anything about anything, no answer why we are beta testing an "older" client, no answers on the rule sets of servers (now they showed a preview of what kind of rules they are considering for RP servers. Considering now? The game comes out in 3 weeks, better make the right decision!)
I'm not bashing AoC, I actually think the beta ran well even for an "old" version. Which in itself doesn't make sense, if they really wanted to stress the servers wouldn't they use the latest and most demanding build? Something doesn't smell right about that whole thing.
I really hope you guys have a good time playing AoC, because that's all that matters in the end. Looking to the future and what games are coming out, MMORPG's won't be the ones I'll be playing.
I think all this fuss that has been going on about the beta brings upon a popular phrase:
don't murder the candidate when they are going to commit suicide.
Like already mentioned, FC is practically putting a gun in their mouth with their choice to use an older client for stress testing, while lifting the NDA... no wonder so many freakin' haters have come out of nowhere, FC made a really stupid choice by doing this (though I have to say some of the hate is unjust, a good amount is).
What does really frighten me is FC's lack of communication on these issues... all we're hearing is rumors from both sides, such as the game will suck because of X, and the game will be alright because of Y, etc. They've been really lacking to give us any real information... all I've been seeing from them is BS when different sites ask them questions, so we have to find answers ourselves, which are usually completely off.
I am still going to try the game at release, and when I get the chance, play the open beta for myself to get an absolute decision. I don't think FC is stupid enough to not realize that once you remove the NDA they're going to be judging whatever they get... so I'm really thinking this really is all they really have to offer... really? Until we get some real info by release and when this is settled that I can judge whether I play the game fully or just switch to WAR when it comes out.
To make one thing sure - this is not older client. This is the last client.
Ok, everything I have read so far is saying the opposite that the file planet beta is using and older client and the closed beta had the current client. Can anyone else verify please? thanks!
Open beta players are using same client as the closed beta players. Both clients are crashing big time atm.
We are playing the latest version - Its just not more stable than this.
Bumping to continue the votes, over 500 and growing.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Their poor, or lack of commnication is especially disturbing, which resulted in me cancellilng preorder. If you read the response regarding why they chose Fileplanet as their choice for launching beta, you will see what I can only describe as poor communication skills and fallacies in their arguments. This includes not answering questions directly and just being totally patronizing. It's one thing to be customer oriented, it's another to try to act like you care and will answer questions and concerns but am really just blowing smoke. That response has caused some stir on the forums previously.
Unless this company hass pi$$ poor PR, there can only be one good explanation for this lack of communication, and that is that they are scared of addressing these concerns. I think that is one of the reasons why they have not addressed the current issue regarding open beta issues.
I don't see how you can totally hype up a game by offereing "open beta", and not post updates regarding concerns 20 days from release...They may try to hide behind their veil but eventually this will all unravel.
I must admit I was among those who had high hopes for this game. But unfortunately my hopes dwindleded when they cut down on the majority of the classes; offered and advertised "open beta" through a provider which requires subscription fees; poorly addressed the concerns regarding their choice of going with this provider; and then released the "open beta" on what people claim are an older client
and finally failing to address the glaring concerns of the community which is their potential client base.
I can only attribute this to bad management.
I hope this game turns out to be good, as I would love to play. But for now I am reserving judgement of the game until after release, but regarding judgement of the company, I must give it a thumbsdown.
Almost 700 votes now. Keep them coming.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I enjoy the combat, you have to remember theres 80 levels lol... theres lots to do with your character.
Is the combat perfect? no, but its an improvement over autoattack! combos make a big difference later, you don't get to see a lot at L 13 lol.
Personally I would rather have auto-attack, calling AoC's combat an improvement is just your opinion. To me, it just is more buttons you have to push. I guess I like autoattack better, while it is more boring it won't give me carpal tunnel from so much button mashing.
Personally I would rather have auto-attack, calling AoC's combat an improvement is just your opinion. To me, it just is more buttons you have to push. I guess I like autoattack better, while it is more boring it won't give me carpal tunnel from so much button mashing.
This comabt is actually one of the worst i ve seen.
I haven't decided yet but i'm kinda leaning toward getting it. I'm not used to the "semi-twitch" combat system yet and it does feel awkward a bit for me (I'm not a huge fan of twitch game) but if I play a spell caster then it won't really matter as spell casting isn't too twitchy I hope. I want to play the open beta till it ends before deciding.
Why would anyone pre order a game and then cancel they're pre order when its still in testing? You knew it was in testing when you pre ordered it and clearly its gonna be buggy hence the "testing"
Fact of the matter is just like every MMO I have played from open and or beta tested over the course of the last 13 years, these games change so much with in the first 1-3 months of going live. What doesn't change is the percentage of people that freak out pre release or with in the first week of going live and start shit talking a game. Most (not all) EXPERIENCED gamers/testers will agree 95% of the MMOs over the last decade were very buggy pre release. In addition to that, all games regardless or how old they are continue to release bug fix/patches every week. This isn't new to us (?)
Want my advise? relax... pay attention to the forums but don't take them to serious, I am sure we can all agree, some people like certain games or certain things about games that other people don't. This doesn't make a game bad. Be patient, alot of people are to quick to voice they're opinion because thats what the internet enables us to do (that or they have the attention span of a 5 year old). Wait for its release, try it out and make your own mind up. You can obviously afford to or you wouldn't have paid extra for the pre order to begin with.
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personaly speaking i think it looks good but from what i ve seen this game could be more at home on a consol . maybe the first great consol mmorpg . i ve an average pc it runs pretty well but not very well on my rig but then again some of the glitches i m getting could be down to it being in beta . as some on these forums have said most mmos have a few issues in the first months of release . warcraft included . i think i ll proberbly hang fire on conan till september maybe and see what the comments in the forums reviews etc are like or maybe wait untill theres a weeks free trial .
I don't know if it was because I was so pumped up about the game or what, but I am sooooo not impressed with this game so far. I'm disappointed too, because I thought it was going to be something really cool.
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759 Votes and growing! We've already passed the statistical significant stage. Keep the votes coming folks!
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
dude...I love this gem! In fact, I placed a second pre-order just so I can have the Rhino. I'm having a blast in BETA!
Keep the votes rolling folks!
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."