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Poll: You played beta, are you cancelling your pre-order?

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  • vv33dvv33d Member Posts: 39

    hi, i am looking for a beta key. i read like some people already have multiples lv13 and dont play anymore. i need to get a feeling of the game before i decide to buy it.

    i am somewhat dissapointed i got home from work and missed the fileplanet giveaway. i signed up for the closed beta a year and half ago, played anarchy online at start, .. but havent got any invite about the open beta.

    i found it a bit rude when you go trought the process of filling their form, dx diag, writing a resume of why you would like to test their game and when its time for open beta, they dont invite .

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    1,524 votes, keep them coming!

     

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    1,535 and counting. We need your votes!

     

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • Arkane_AArkane_A Member Posts: 365

    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.

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  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.

    Yes, it is a random sampling of over 1,500 voters about their thoughts on AoC since trying the beta.  Nothing is wrong with your numbers.  With the number of votes and the 50,000+ Preview Event, I have enough data to make some statistically predictions and conclusions that will stand up in academia as an accurate representation of the preview event as a whole.

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • t5christ5chris Member Posts: 19

    I've been on the bandwagon for AoC ever since I quit WoW 3 months in, and have been desperately looking for a new mmo to play.  I wanted AoC to succeed, but it's been a big disappointment from playing beta. 

    Still filled with bugs.  Combat is Button-Mashing gallore.  Skill tree is similar to WoW.  I think gameplay wise, WoW actually beats it; which is embarrassing to say.  I just don't see how it can be any more dynamic than WoW, with the fact that it has so many similarities and lacking faults. 

    The only thing that AoC has on WoW is the graphics right now.  

     

     

  • IijsIijs Member Posts: 457

    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.
    Something like that.

    So, with 1540 votes, 531 are definitely keeping their pre-order (or probably will pre-order), and 696 are undecided. That's a lot of undecided, as it should be.

    A small, but extremely vocal minority figure it's not worth buying and have cancelled their pre-orders. Sounds par for the course.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Originally posted by Iijs


     
    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.
    Something like that.

     

    So, with 1540 votes, 531 are definitely keeping their pre-order (or probably will pre-order), and 696 are undecided. That's a lot of undecided, as it should be.

    A small, but extremely vocal minority figure it's not worth buying and have cancelled their pre-orders. Sounds par for the course.

    You think you can take any poll on this site seriuosly?  This site has people with many multiple accounts to skew any poll or rating int heir favour or agasint.  just need ot look at the ratings of the games on this site lol.  This te ceased to be a source of good information along time ago, now its just a site of flames haters fanbois and biased opinions nothing more.

  • Arkane_AArkane_A Member Posts: 365
    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Iijs


     
    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.
    Something like that.

     

    So, with 1540 votes, 531 are definitely keeping their pre-order (or probably will pre-order), and 696 are undecided. That's a lot of undecided, as it should be.

    A small, but extremely vocal minority figure it's not worth buying and have cancelled their pre-orders. Sounds par for the course.

     

    You think you can take any poll on this site seriuosly?  This site has people with many multiple accounts to skew any poll or rating int heir favour or agasint.  just need ot look at the ratings of the games on this site lol.  This te ceased to be a source of good information along time ago, now its just a site of flames haters fanbois and biased opinions nothing more.

    Umm, it is damn near impossible to not have a biases opinion because you are going to base your opinion on YOUR gaming experience.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by Arkane_A

    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Iijs


     
    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.
    Something like that.

     

    So, with 1540 votes, 531 are definitely keeping their pre-order (or probably will pre-order), and 696 are undecided. That's a lot of undecided, as it should be.

    A small, but extremely vocal minority figure it's not worth buying and have cancelled their pre-orders. Sounds par for the course.

     

    You think you can take any poll on this site seriuosly?  This site has people with many multiple accounts to skew any poll or rating int heir favour or agasint.  just need ot look at the ratings of the games on this site lol.  This te ceased to be a source of good information along time ago, now its just a site of flames haters fanbois and biased opinions nothing more.

    Umm, it is damn near impossible to not have a biases opinion because you are going to base your opinion on YOUR gaming experience.

    bingo

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  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by Arkane_A

    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Iijs


     
    Originally posted by Arkane_A


    Is my math correct in thinking that around 1,000 of the people who got to beta the game and vote here are not buying it or are unsure of purchasing it? It is late here ( 3 AM ) so I could be off, but something seems "off" about the numbers.
    Something like that.

     

    So, with 1540 votes, 531 are definitely keeping their pre-order (or probably will pre-order), and 696 are undecided. That's a lot of undecided, as it should be.

    A small, but extremely vocal minority figure it's not worth buying and have cancelled their pre-orders. Sounds par for the course.

     

    You think you can take any poll on this site seriuosly?  This site has people with many multiple accounts to skew any poll or rating int heir favour or agasint.  just need ot look at the ratings of the games on this site lol.  This te ceased to be a source of good information along time ago, now its just a site of flames haters fanbois and biased opinions nothing more.

    Umm, it is damn near impossible to not have a biases opinion because you are going to base your opinion on YOUR gaming experience.

    bingo

    Exactly, and it doesn't lessen the fact that the poll here is more than statistically significant.  We have no way to prove one war or another on the authenticity of the votes except trusting MMORPG.com's website to be smart enough to track cookies and such to eliminate dublicate voting.  Saying that, what you say about the voting here on the forums can be said about opinion polls anywhere on any topic.

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • spnartspnart Member Posts: 38

    people seem to assume that everybody who did this poll somehow got into open beta

  • RazriusRazrius Member Posts: 32

    have received a beta key yesterday and tried the game for myself for a few hours.

    I still have to decide if I keep my preorder or not.

    I am leaning toward to cancel it.

    I am playing it on an iMac(bootcamp XP)

    2,8Ghz, 4GB Ram, Ati 2600Pro(XT in disguise).

    I am running the game around 40FPS in 1400x1050, in medium details. The game was able to run in 1920x1200 but got around 15 FPS.

    Load time were less than a minute for me(1400x1050,Med resolution). Client was quite stable.

    I have started the game as HoX, and I had no issues to survive and kill mobs.

    The game misses something for me. The music chore is awesome one of the bests I have ever heard in a game, but for me the game itself misses it's epic mood. The graphics looks okay and nice but the photorealistic art just felt a bit plastic too me. I would have prefered more styled art approach with less photorealistic engine to have a better feel of the world. 

    The combat system was okay but for me it felt as it is an invention in the wrong direction. I could use them all the time and it was easy to use however I am probably got so much used to WoW's 1 click 1 spell/ability activation that AoC's combat system felt like a bit of an unneccesary addition to combat.

    Well I give the game a few more tries with a Dark Templar and a Tempest of Set, but currently I am not keen on buying the game. I was awaited a bit more from the game(hype, and the lack of proper new MMO after WoW), and for me so far the game lack abit of epicness factor of Conan world.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

     

    Originally posted by spnart


    people seem to assume that everybody who did this poll somehow got into open beta

     

    Like i said polls on this site mean nothing.  Its more about who has the most accounts wins.

  • TibsterTibster Member Posts: 23

    hmm, i must be stupid thinking beta testing was to help the devs to make a more polished game and not a way for players to test if they wanna play the game or not......

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860
    Originally posted by Tibster


    hmm, i must be stupid thinking beta testing was to help the devs to make a more polished game and not a way for players to test if they wanna play the game or not......

    Main problem here is that fileplanet charges money for their services, you forget completely about helping when you are being charged.

  • TibsterTibster Member Posts: 23

    Originally posted by Ephimero

    Originally posted by Tibster


    hmm, i must be stupid thinking beta testing was to help the devs to make a more polished game and not a way for players to test if they wanna play the game or not......

    Main problem here is that fileplanet charges money for their services, you forget completely about helping when you are being charged.

    Understandable(maybe)... but i got my betakey without getting charged for it.

  • RazriusRazrius Member Posts: 32

    First of all I should let you know I am working as a game dev.

    I agree with you about beta testing (closed).That's the one where you should sign up when you want to help the devs fixing bugs and polishing game.

    However open beta should be only counted as a marketing tool, especially when it is only up for 2-3 weeks before release. You only need to test the game for yourself and after a while you should(would be nice to) write a detailed review about what you like and what you don't like in the game and why. Then tell your friends wether the game is good or not and should they join you or not.

    That way you can give valuable feedbacks to other players to have some kind of early insight into the game.

    Most of the devs and publishers are aware of that open beta is priorly a marketing tool.

    However you still help devs by stressing the server, so they can make last minute changes/fixes to ease the release, but the polish and bugfixing should be done in closed beta.

  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235
    Originally posted by Uthous

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    Just out of interest, can any of the fanboys quoting the above give me an example of a game that had a terrible beta and a good launch?

    Can u name me a game thats had a good beta and good launch:)

      DAoC (LoTRO not so bad by the end of beta)

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    1,590 votes, keep them coming people.

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • greymanngreymann Member Posts: 757

    Originally posted by Razrius


    First of all I should let you know I am working as a game dev.
    I agree with you about beta testing (closed).That's the one where you should sign up when you want to help the devs fixing bugs and polishing game.
    However open beta should be only counted as a marketing tool, especially when it is only up for 2-3 weeks before release. You only need to test the game for yourself and after a while you should(would be nice to) write a detailed review about what you like and what you don't like in the game and why. Then tell your friends wether the game is good or not and should they join you or not.
    That way you can give valuable feedbacks to other players to have some kind of early insight into the game.
    Most of the devs and publishers are aware of that open beta is priorly a marketing tool.

    However you still help devs by stressing the server, so they can make last minute changes/fixes to ease the release, but the polish and bugfixing should be done in closed beta.

    Thank you.  What I've been trying to say this whole time.  I don't know why some keep insisting that this is for testing only and not a trial for marketing purposes.

  • AnubisanAnubisan Member UncommonPosts: 1,798

    I personally am enjoying the game enough to give it a shot at release. I will decide then if I still want to continue playing after a month or so...

    At this point I would just prefer that all of the AoC haters get it over with and leave. We get the picture... a lot of you don't like the game. Then again, no MMORPG is for everyone. There simply is no way to please the whole community... especially when so many people are impossible to please.

    Just do us all a favor and move on if you don't enjoy AoC. No one is judging you for your opinion, but don't try to ruin it for the rest of us. Thanks...

  • PelagatoPelagato Member UncommonPosts: 673

    Lol... remember that there is a big pack of people that say:   

     

    Look a new game... lets go and flame the forums as we always do!

     

  • ShanniaShannia Member Posts: 2,096

    Originally posted by Razrius


    First of all I should let you know I am working as a game dev.
    I agree with you about beta testing (closed).That's the one where you should sign up when you want to help the devs fixing bugs and polishing game.
    However open beta should be only counted as a marketing tool, especially when it is only up for 2-3 weeks before release. You only need to test the game for yourself and after a while you should(would be nice to) write a detailed review about what you like and what you don't like in the game and why. Then tell your friends wether the game is good or not and should they join you or not.
    That way you can give valuable feedbacks to other players to have some kind of early insight into the game.
    Most of the devs and publishers are aware of that open beta is priorly a marketing tool.

    However you still help devs by stressing the server, so they can make last minute changes/fixes to ease the release, but the polish and bugfixing should be done in closed beta.

    You are correct.  Devs even said this event should have been called Fileplanet's Preview Event.  It was marketed as an open beta not as a stress test.   Only once you read the email confirming you won a key did it suddenly change the wording of what the event really was.  A stress test on the servers.  Call it bad marketing, but the stress test was done as an open beta preview event.  There is no mistake about that fact.

     

    Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

    "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  • greymanngreymann Member Posts: 757
    Originally posted by Anubisan


    I personally am enjoying the game enough to give it a shot at release. I will decide then if I still want to continue playing after a month or so...
    At this point I would just prefer that all of the AoC haters get it over with and leave. We get the picture... a lot of you don't like the game. Then again, no MMORPG is for everyone. There simply is no way to please the whole community... especially when so many people are impossible to please.
    Just do us all a favor and move on if you don't enjoy AoC. No one is judging you for your opinion, but don't try to ruin it for the rest of us. Thanks...



    Well there's no point to having any gaming discussion if you want to exclude certain opinions.  Pull down the forums!  If you really like the game I'm not sure how I could ruin it for you anyway.  If what you mean is that you don't want people not in open beta to see negative opinions then sorry.  People deciding whether to spend their money or not should hear both sides.

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