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Time for few facts
Alan0n
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Gonna throw out few facts about few things.
First off - Few facts about AOC at launch for the fanboys that seems to be dominating here now. Probably based to the fact that MMORPG is banning the naisayers even if they are making valid points.
AOC will be launching without spellweaving. That is certain.
AOC will be launching with or without DX10 support ?
AOC will be launching without siege battles
AOC will be launching with problems for alot of players performance wise. I find it quite ironic that after a post from me got deleted cause it showed the game crashing I got a following msg from Mod on this website
You prolly didnt get to read my post but you have WAY to many programs running in your background. I saw in your SS that you have 50 Active Processes running. OUCH! Not sure about Vista but XP only needs 14 to run. Turn off all the useless stuff you have running and it will make a BIG difference. You can always turn them back on after you finish playing AoC. Hope that helps.
1. Im running windows vista installed 2 days ago when the screenshot was taken. There is only one none orginal Windows vista program not running. That is my anti-virus that I have turned of and it doesn't matter at all.
2. I have turned of every single windows Vista coponent that can without the system crashing.
3. Windows VIsta works diffrently than XP in the sence that the task manager shows all running tasks while XP does only show the users runnig tasks. So if a person is having 14 tasks shown in their taskbar in XP doesn't mean there arnt more running. I have 12 processes running as user.
4. My pc spec. Some are claiming my PC is crap and thats why its not working. I have already posted my spec few times including few days ago - I do so here again.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1874/runitbf7.jpg
5. It doesn't matter if I run the game in highest quality or the lowest. I have the same problems. OFC the FPS is higher but the stuttering and crashes are exactly the same.
6. My PC can run every single game other than AOC exept one - Hellgate London. Its kinda strange Im not crashing for the other games since my PC is to blame ? Isn't it ? Now Hellgate London ... do I need to talk about that sad story of a game ? Maybe I need to remind you what memory leak did to that game ? Yes lets do that and maybe someone will see some simularities ?
Taken from a poster on these forums - As a beta tester of HGL I can tell you this is the truth.
First the game was in such horrid shape that it should not have seen the light of release day for a solid two months of bug fixes. Even then the game didn't have an ounce of in-game features that were listed on the website (before release).
Heard anything of this before in AOC ?
Secondly, the game's development company pulled a "bait and switch" tactic on free features, founders features, and subscription features. I mean, they totally rewrote the whole online features comparison table -- AFTER many people had already subscribed/founded.
Well.. Paid for open beta that then got free - Carrot on a stick pre-orders ?
Third, they acknowledged that they KNEW, for months prior to release, that there were major memory leak problems but couldn't find them prior to release.
oh really... where have I heard this one in AOC ?
Fifth, their "support" is laughable at best and at worst it just plain doesn't exist.
WItch reminds me of about 10 emails sent to tech@ageofconan.com where I ask for offiicial solutions to my memory leaks (with detailed info) - No respons so far.
What is the state of HGL today ? How many of the orginal buyers are still playing ? And dont forget that the MMO part of AOC is relying alot more on stability than what HGL does. Alot more.
But back to AOC. I was truely hoping for my next MMO game to be AOC. I like many of the features of it. But then I have to be able to run it for more than 20 mins at the time. But I can't with a pc that more than good enough to run the game. It has nothing to do with fanboys and doomsayers or my pc spec or anything other than the fact that the game simply doesn't run less than week before first paying custimors are allowed into the game.
There are numerous signs showing the "lets cash in" attitude of Funcom. But its not good for the players and its not good for the game. But to me the most sad part is that MMORPG.COM is directly trying to influence players. Or maybe noone has noticed that MMORPG.COM seems to have no need to even post one single info about WOTLK ? Why is that ? Does that hurt AOC promotion ? I just have to ask. And I have to ask - why are posts that are warning players that there are still major performance issues in the game beeing deleted - at the same time as ads about pre-orders are left right and center on the website ?
The fanboys are talking about that the doomsayers are now quiet cause AOC is turning out to be so great. I think the so called Doomsayers have already made their point by now. Now its up to the custimors to make the true verdict. There is no gain for anyone coming here in 2 months time and talking about "I told you so". But its only fair that the potential custimors of any product know what they are buying. And they know that its working. But sadly there are doubts - even if FUncom and MMORPG.COM are trying their very best to hide those "small" issues.
I will say this once more. This game is far from ready. And thats how it will be launching. 2 months minimum is needed to sort out gamebreaking issues. But that wont happen. And at the same time more and more ppl are lured into buying it before release - before they even know if its working or not on their PC.
Is that what any player of computergames should be supporting ? I don't think so.
Comments
Hey OP, nice post.
One thing about MMORPG.com from the first time I ever posted here. This website HATES World of Warcraft. The entire staff of MMORPG.com hates it. One thing about even the fans that post on the website, they were even mocking MMORPG.com for omitting WoW in it's annual award ceremonies. I personally think something happened behind the scense between Blizzard staff and MMORPG.com staff. This site is the premium site on the web were it is not only cool, but expected, for a person to bash WoW, because if you don't you are automatically labelled a troll.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Interesting approach to the concept pf "facts".
Now shush, back under your bridge.
Blizzard didnt add the missing feature until * 8 months * after launch
EQ2 fan sites
The only fact is AoC have issues on some configurations.
The fact is players with nvidia 8x card have far better performance then those with nvidia 9x cards.
As for the other so called facts ...
Saying spellwaving wont be on at release is based on what ?
( same goes for siege battles )
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Wow...your entire post should have been just this..the rest is just dribble and ranting with most of it incorect.
AoC will most likely be iffy at the start...like most MMORPG's before it, having played the game i have complete faith they can fix these "small" issues within the first couple of months. The game is to good to pass up because of minor issues that will be sorted.
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And before ppl start to talk about me not having the latest beta drivers installed. I did so in my 8800gtx card. Sadly that card got fried while playing AOC cutschene while using those drivers (the maiden blood cutschene). Thankfully it still had 2 year warranty so I got a new one - and even better
Im not complaining about such minor issues as games breaking hardware while in beta. Thats part of it all and players are taking risks by signing up - and the companies have their arse covered for such issues.
But I am complaining about the game performance one week before release. It doesn't matter if the game is beta at that stage. You do expect it to run smooth. But if not then you do expect the devs to come clean - or at least support their product.
And lets keep one thing clear. Im not the only player struggling with performance issues. How many exactly we dont know. But I promise you that there will be alot of help needed on the Funcom support site if the game is releasing like this. And thats the most likely part cause they are not gonna add features that could potentially make the game more unstable than it already is.
I believe FC has stated that spellweaving and siege warfare are in at launch, all this guys so called facts boil down to is,
"AoC beta didn't run on my system, WWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
Well as Judge Judy once said "Suck it up!". I'll bet it didn't work for a few, I had trouble with the password authentification but worked around it after 5 mins surfing the web and 30 mins fixing it. However the majority had AoC working after the miracle patch (a sarcastic reference made by many nay sayers) did happen and Funcom weren't a bunch of liars (as alledged by same harbingers of doom).
I'm getting a bit sick of the same 4-6 people slagging of AoC because,
A: Their comp didn't run the Beta.
B: They don't like the type of game it is.
C: They're crapping their pants in fear their guildmates will leave them alone forever in D&L.
Life's a bitch, suck it up!
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CS Lewis
Ahaha half of what he states are facts are complete lies. I would go into detail to defend the game from this guy, but anyone that still takes him seriously is beyond any type of help I could provide.
if I remember correctly, FC has stated that spellweaving and siege WILL be in at launch. Just because we didn't get to test them in open beta doesn't mean they won't be in the final product. -_-;
Are you talking about the OB client? It's totally different from the CB client. Whilst I couldn't get the OB to run at all, I had a try at the CB from a friend and it was perfect, performance wise anyways.
So whilst this is going to be a terrible launch, it's not going to be the end of the world as Funcom will resolve most of the problems fairly quickly.
Of course, FC stating it doesn't mean that they will be in launch either. But the mystery will be over very soon regardless.
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Go play your AOC ! My God im sick of this, most people here can't deal with the TRUTH ! If anyone says anything about a game there a troll or a lier !
GO Play the AOC...
Im not a fan of any game!.. Sofar there no good game out yet, im geting sick of rushed games that come out broken that promise things and don't deliver anything but hype!
In Time the Truth will be told... NDA will be lifted and we shall see the Truth be told.
it's JUST another game that's on my list to not play..
Yes i have a new Dell XPS gaming 630..
If i have to twink a comp to play a game after paying $1000s its not worth it..
I hope you find the
in AOC.. Graphics don't make a game, game play does!
deal with the truth?
I can deal with the truth that you didnt like the experience youve had so far with AoC, sorry.
Its rather you who cant deal with the "fact" (lol) that there is a shitload of people here that had an awesome time in the OB. And cant wait for Release.
for me? Aslong as release works as good as OB did for me, im there for the ganks and loves of many others!
Why? Becouse OB worked great for me, the miracle patch didnt do squat for me, worked 100% same as pre miracle patch. Guess i was lucky pre miracle patch
Im running 8800 GTS 640 mb Ram (the g90) with a clocked 4400 Core 2 duo, 4gig of ram and Vista 64. No problem what so ever on highest 4x AA bloom...
I feel for the ones who didnt get it to work properly (my friends laptop are having some problems, but hes not here hating - he still got his preorder from playing from my comp thats how impressed he was). But i didnt expect a new released game to work for everyone... heck atleast it is shaping up to work for many enough compared to the last few big releases weve seen...
Haters should understand that while yes there are people having problems, there are many who dont... And the actual game when it runs is just awesome
Take it as you want.
FagerCraft - feeding the trolls on mmorpg.com since 2005!
P.S after this beta, i sure as hell became one of the fanbois
FagerCraft - Feeding the trolls on mmorpg.com since 2005.
"TRUTH" = Blatant lies. Grow up and do something productive with your life. This isn't healthy. How many alt accounts do you have anyway? I remember just a couple days ago when Alan0n got a temp ban for spewing lies and crap, and then he came on as Alan0n2 and got immediately deleted! That made my day haha.
Anyway if you come to a forum to spout off blatant lies, and then defend yourself by saying you are sick of it because people can't deal with the TRUTH, then why would anyone take you for anything but a stupid little Troll. If you are so sick of bashing a game that you have disliked for over a year before ever even trying it, and you have to lie to back up your baseless arguments then what on Earth are you still doing even browsing these forums?
Pre-order is starting in how many days ? There is no NDA on it so we will see soon enough if its in.
Flamers like you should be the ppl banned. Everything you write in this post is exactly what bannable offence is about. But guess what? Your allowed to call ppl trolls and so on - just like other fanboys - also claiming ppl are liars and when some kinda proof is shown then those are deleted. It has nothing to do with truth or lies. It has to do with selling a Pre-order game that is no playable for some.
YOu seriously think I would stil be here if not for the fact that the game isn't running for me ? The truth will be out in few days and we will exactly see what ppl like you are all about. Cause that has nothing to do with any more truth than the issues others are having.
So far I have not seen one single positve post from you on these forums. Yet you are allowed to go on flaming and calling ppl trolls and liars. You got to feel great about yourself.
Every Computer is meant to be tweaked even if it has a ""gaming Pc"" name attached to it, your Comp was not made specifically to play AoC so it will need to be tweaked in order for maximum performance, tell me do you play with the native resolution when you load up a game? not many people do they adjust to what suits them ..guess what that is tweaking, do you up the in game graphics of a dumbed down game to make it look better? of course you do again that is tweaking not on a technical level but it is tweaking or twink as you like to call it no matter what the game is you always do something to get the game looking the best or performing the best that suits you it took me about 30 minutes of tweaking to get this game to run from poor to great you think because you spent thousands you dont need to a damn think to the PC you have a lot to learn.
Exactly. The truth will be out in a few days, so why waste time arguing about whether or not a game is good on forums? Let's all just put our crystal balls down and wait and see.
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I'm a beta tester to. Age of Conan has some problems and for me it crashes after about 2 hours of playing, you would have to be stupid to denie that but nonetheless I still preordered because it's hell of alot of fun. Been quite a while since I had such fun in a mmorpg.
I hope they can make the game run a bit smoother and I am sure we will see many updates in the near future. After all only very very few mmorpg's are close to perfect at release.
Some people compare AoC to vanguard, well I tried vanguard one year after release and I find AoC is already ahead of vanguard. Just my opinion.
beta experiences may hold true or be found to be hype (good or bad)
5 more days til Retail client is playable
- you can enjoy spouting "FACTS" then
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OP:
I was able to fix my constant crashing errors with my nVidia card. I was getting a good old BSoD. I ended up having to completely remove the nVidia app and drivers through the add/remove programs option and reboot with the windows system drivers. Then after the reboot, reinstall the latest.
And I was having a problem with the Realtek sound you show. Disabling it helped me (though of course it took a bit away from the game). After I installed a Sound Blaster card, I had some issues when the launcher settings didn't agree with the SB application that starts with launch. Then too, I had to change the nVidia app to game mode (I had it in entertainment). Then things were a lot more smooth.
Have you tried repartitioning your drive and putting 2 page files up?
Make custom power setting to make sure your drive doesn't go into power sav emode/sleep?
Also, I don't see the running processes of your system. If you send me a post/screenie, I'll see if there aren't a couple things I might suggest (regardless of how well you have tweaked it, sometime 2 heads are better than 1)
The game is very nice looking and I also liked most of the quests. The combat and fatalities were also great. However the game was unplayable as of the FFA PVP day. Before that it was playable but i had massive performance issues. I wont be getting it unfortunately. Id probably try it out down the road but by the time they work all the kinks out, WAR will be out and Ill probably try it instead.
I find it funny .....I know its dmg control. But come on ... the majority are running fine? I dont think so. Of course I guess a majority would constitute 51%
. Oh well I suppose , i was hoping i would be able to play. But I'm not blowing 50 bucks for a game that will potentially not be playable for me , bah.
Blog compiling almost all news around AoC that really are facts and not made up crap from people like you.
blogs.gamersinfo.net/index.php/aoc/2008/04/07/p3126
Some quotes for you since I know you won't read more than 2 or 3 lines of it:
NOTICE I ADDED THE SECTION FOR KNOWN THINGS NOT IN LAUNCH THAT ARE STILL IN THE WORKS (The real facts about what won't be in since I have no desire to skew information and make the game look better. Please read the site and links provided to inform yourself properly.)
Interview with lead designer talks about a lot of great things that you should listen to sometime so maybe you can get your facts straight and quit lying to everyone including yourself.
http://www.uberguilds.org/radio/node/348
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