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Yes take the trial so you can see that the current version of SWG is nowhere near as good as the pre-CU game. Even the majority of people still playing admit that the game was better back then.
Yes take the trial so you can see that the current version of SWG is nowhere near as good as the pre-CU game. Even the majority of people still playing admit that the game was better back then.
I cant count how many times i have tried to come back to SWG after the NGE (ok 2 times) I think that the only way you can get a sense of how EMPTY the game is, is to play it so by all means go for it!
Yes take the trial so you can see that the current version of SWG is nowhere near as good as the pre-CU game. Even the majority of people still playing admit that the game was better back then.
I cant count how many times i have tried to come back to SWG after the NGE (ok 2 times) I think that the only way you can get a sense of how EMPTY the game is, is to play it so by all means go for it!
Yeah nothing kills that nostalgic feeling faster than logging on with a vet trial to empty servers. It's just so depressing.
Yes take the trial so you can see that the current version of SWG is nowhere near as good as the pre-CU game. Even the majority of people still playing admit that the game was better back then.
Love how every thread devolved into a "then and now" debate. Fact is back then I had a permanent bug where I could not go overt and then go back to covert or "on leave" due to a part of a tef that got stuck on me. I petitioned and petitions for 2 years but was always stuck this inability to go overt because SWG thought I was already overt.. rahter a problem .. The finaly fixed it when they changed the system causing the problem .. finally i can at will type in /pvp and go over and then at well go back to on leave status. FINALLY there is content.. I think if you speak to most people who actually play they wil say that the game is in fact a lot better now because it actualy has content and some of the major bugs like the one I had were corrected when they overhauled the pvp/combat system with regards to the RVR and going overt. But nostalgia says that of course none of this exsisted that there was content when there was none and that a game which had me broken for about 2 years because of a bug in a system which finally got an overhaul was of course a good thing.
Try playing a rebel with a piece of a "tef" stuck to you for 2 years and find out how fun it is to go to the recruited to try to go overt only to be told that you already are when your not. Yeah those were great times and I hope to never ever see them again lol
So you think and the current players think the game is better NOW than it was...
Well...
So that makes 5,000 people who like it better now, and 300,000 who liked it better then. Smart money says you and SOE lose.
The game STILL has bugs, heck, you can't even finish some of the quests on Musty. Rats still spawn in rocks. You can still shoot through walls. There is STILL rubberbanding. There is STILL lag (with FAR less people mind you), and the economy is a complete waste of time and a mess.
Pre-CU had bugs, but it was also considered by a lot of people to be fun. The NGE has bugs, and just about everybody except you and a few other misguided people hate it.
Tecmo Bowl.
Love how every thread devolved into a "then and now" debate. Fact is back then I had a permanent bug where I could not go overt and then go back to covert or "on leave" due to a part of a tef that got stuck on me. I petitioned and petitions for 2 years but was always stuck this inability to go overt because SWG thought I was already overt.. rahter a problem .. The finaly fixed it when they changed the system causing the problem .. finally i can at will type in /pvp and go over and then at well go back to on leave status. FINALLY there is content.. I think if you speak to most people who actually play they wil say that the game is in fact a lot better now because it actualy has content and some of the major bugs like the one I had were corrected when they overhauled the pvp/combat system with regards to the RVR and going overt. But nostalgia says that of course none of this exsisted that there was content when there was none and that a game which had me broken for about 2 years because of a bug in a system which finally got an overhaul was of course a good thing.
Try playing a rebel with a piece of a "tef" stuck to you for 2 years and find out how fun it is to go to the recruited to try to go overt only to be told that you already are when your not. Yeah those were great times and I hope to never ever see them again lol
Removal is not correction. in over two years, I have met ONE player who thinks the game is better now than pre-CU.
Obraik.
That's it. On five servers, having hundreds of conversations and listening to perhaps thousands, every single one, where this issue came up, liked pre-CU better than now.
There were plenty of problems pre-CU, but the game itself was far better; the market demonstrates this quite nicely.
A hut with no plumbing has far fewer things which can go wrong than a rolling mansion on one hundred acres of land, with a pool, a tennis court, and a racetrack. Few would prefer the hut.
I am glad you enjoy your simpler life; most however, do not, and most of those that still settle for this simple life, preferred the more complicated life with far more riches.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Love how every thread devolved into a "then and now" debate. Fact is back then I had a permanent bug where I could not go overt and then go back to covert or "on leave" due to a part of a tef that got stuck on me. I petitioned and petitions for 2 years but was always stuck this inability to go overt because SWG thought I was already overt.. rahter a problem .. The finaly fixed it when they changed the system causing the problem .. finally i can at will type in /pvp and go over and then at well go back to on leave status. FINALLY there is content.. I think if you speak to most people who actually play they wil say that the game is in fact a lot better now because it actualy has content and some of the major bugs like the one I had were corrected when they overhauled the pvp/combat system with regards to the RVR and going overt. But nostalgia says that of course none of this exsisted that there was content when there was none and that a game which had me broken for about 2 years because of a bug in a system which finally got an overhaul was of course a good thing.
Try playing a rebel with a piece of a "tef" stuck to you for 2 years and find out how fun it is to go to the recruited to try to go overt only to be told that you already are when your not. Yeah those were great times and I hope to never ever see them again lol
Removal is not correction. in over two years, I have met ONE player who thinks the game is better now than pre-CU.
Obraik.
That's it. On five servers, having hundreds of conversations and listening to perhaps thousands, every single one, where this issue came up, liked pre-CU better than now.
There were plenty of problems pre-CU, but the game itself was far better; the market demonstrates this quite nicely.
A hut with no plumbing has far fewer things which can go wrong than a rolling mansion on one hundred acres of land, with a pool, a tennis court, and a racetrack. Few would prefer the hut.
I am glad you enjoy your simpler life; most however, do not, and most of those that still settle for this simple life, preferred the more complicated life with far more riches.
not sure what "obraik" means, but anyhow changing is correcting and I hate to say it something are much much better then they were back then
Bottom line I enjoy this game better now because of removal of certain systems like gtef the ultimate ganking tool among other things. Classes are fine now half the builds were only used to beef up certain classes like pistoleer or rifleman and were never stand alone and are now available anyhow .. Change does not mean destruction but here is the thing.
This debate is pointless and endless and I will say something that will probably make you grin ITS time to MOVE ON. Its over 3 years ago and the game you want back no matter how many posts you make of it and no matter how much you want ot argue for it ITS GONE. Its time to get over it and stop the merry go round and find yourself A NEW game you enjoy instead of endlessly mourning the loss of something you can't have back. Freud has a name for this state ... and it sure aint a normal one.
Many many vets prefer the present game over the past one and I am one of them. There is actualy something TO DO.. kasshyk was unplayable when I bought it due to the horrrible horrible lag. It now works so many things have been fixed its unreal. Yet people still want to cling to a long gone system that was in many cases very very broken. I remember the endless wine threads calling for nerfs of everything. I remember when my proff was overpowered and we could go beyond the hard cap due to the "customization of the crafting" system and if you knew what to do you could in fact make ungodly poisons and diseases that technically were not possible so I know in my heart of hearts why some things were "removed" as you put it and revamped. The other thing you simply have to remember is that this revamp was something that they were working on since very close to release and they stated as such. It was something that had to be done and the fact that everyone knew it and chose to ignore the fact that a combat upgrade /revamp whatever was coming for eons before it was implemented is not the fault of the company but the fault of the consumer ignoring it. If i knew it as someone who had like 20 posts max then it was well publicised.
So bottom line nothing was really a surprise that happened the people that complained about the overpowered proffessions etc are the ones that are likely the ones that got upset and post to this board for 3 years wanting what they wanted to get rid of back. Many people are unsatisfyable. I consider a person who cannot move on after 3 years wanting to debate all the merits of something they can't have back to be someone who is not satisfyable as far as unrealistic excpectations and needs. Its over period end of sentance you wont get it back so what is the point of the endless circular debate taht goes on year in and year out on this board for no other reason then to just be miserable.
I think a great many people are so happy being misearable that its so much more satisfying then finding another game to have fun with that they simply don't know how to change, stop or move on. I dont know but its not normal. The game is the game it actualy in many respects works better then it did before and has I can guarantee you much much more content then it did before so that if you dont want to group you have plenty of other things you can do instead.
They are revamping the Weaponsmith proff and it looks like a great revamp to me as I have a weaponsmith and I can't wait for it. This is a huge change and a positive one but i'm sure that people who hate change will have something negative to say about it even though its the right thing to do. Bottom line people were leaving before the revamp. Lucas arts who had a hand in this is never ever brought to task on the issue only sony .. people have tunnel vision but lucas arts is as much to blame for what you hate as sony is because if they had said NO it would not have happened. I would bet good money on the fact though that the population would not have stayed at what it was then not with the advent of WoW and other games for which many people were leaving for anyhow. What you hate was change some people hate change. The fact of the matter is if you play MMORPG's if you hate change you will be eternally pissed off and unsatisfied so go buy a stand alone PC game and forget about MMORPG's because your not likelyl one who can ever be satisfied as there willl always be something wrong that doesn't work right.
PS. you in most cases here is not singular but plural and it stands for every vet who is unable to let go and to this day remains unstatisfied with a game they likely screamed about bitterly on the sony forums from release till the revamp and afterwards of course..
ummax,
You apparently enjoy a game that is greatly dumbed-down... Fine. We are happy for you. The problem is that the vast majority of is didn't need it, didn't require it, and certainly don't like it.
The game is MORE broken now than ever. The only thing that will save this game is pulling the plug.
Tecmo Bowl.
Wow...six or seven paragraphs trying to defend the game and the rebuttal can be summed up so simply: There were 250,000 players back then and less than 10,000 now. Apparently way more people agree with the vets than they do with you.
Love how every thread devolved into a "then and now" debate. Fact is back then I had a permanent bug where I could not go overt and then go back to covert or "on leave" due to a part of a tef that got stuck on me. I petitioned and petitions for 2 years but was always stuck this inability to go overt because SWG thought I was already overt.. rahter a problem .. The finaly fixed it when they changed the system causing the problem .. finally i can at will type in /pvp and go over and then at well go back to on leave status. FINALLY there is content.. I think if you speak to most people who actually play they wil say that the game is in fact a lot better now because it actualy has content and some of the major bugs like the one I had were corrected when they overhauled the pvp/combat system with regards to the RVR and going overt. But nostalgia says that of course none of this exsisted that there was content when there was none and that a game which had me broken for about 2 years because of a bug in a system which finally got an overhaul was of course a good thing.
Try playing a rebel with a piece of a "tef" stuck to you for 2 years and find out how fun it is to go to the recruited to try to go overt only to be told that you already are when your not. Yeah those were great times and I hope to never ever see them again lol
Removal is not correction. in over two years, I have met ONE player who thinks the game is better now than pre-CU.
Obraik.
That's it. On five servers, having hundreds of conversations and listening to perhaps thousands, every single one, where this issue came up, liked pre-CU better than now.
There were plenty of problems pre-CU, but the game itself was far better; the market demonstrates this quite nicely.
A hut with no plumbing has far fewer things which can go wrong than a rolling mansion on one hundred acres of land, with a pool, a tennis court, and a racetrack. Few would prefer the hut.
I am glad you enjoy your simpler life; most however, do not, and most of those that still settle for this simple life, preferred the more complicated life with far more riches.
not sure what "obraik" means, but anyhow changing is correcting and I hate to say it something are much much better then they were back then
Bottom line I enjoy this game better now because of removal of certain systems like gtef the ultimate ganking tool among other things. Classes are fine now half the builds were only used to beef up certain classes like pistoleer or rifleman and were never stand alone and are now available anyhow .. Change does not mean destruction but here is the thing.
This debate is pointless and endless and I will say something that will probably make you grin ITS time to MOVE ON. Its over 3 years ago and the game you want back no matter how many posts you make of it and no matter how much you want ot argue for it ITS GONE. Its time to get over it and stop the merry go round and find yourself A NEW game you enjoy instead of endlessly mourning the loss of something you can't have back. Freud has a name for this state ... and it sure aint a normal one.
Many many vets prefer the present game over the past one and I am one of them. There is actualy something TO DO.. kasshyk was unplayable when I bought it due to the horrrible horrible lag. It now works so many things have been fixed its unreal. Yet people still want to cling to a long gone system that was in many cases very very broken. I remember the endless wine threads calling for nerfs of everything. I remember when my proff was overpowered and we could go beyond the hard cap due to the "customization of the crafting" system and if you knew what to do you could in fact make ungodly poisons and diseases that technically were not possible so I know in my heart of hearts why some things were "removed" as you put it and revamped. The other thing you simply have to remember is that this revamp was something that they were working on since very close to release and they stated as such. It was something that had to be done and the fact that everyone knew it and chose to ignore the fact that a combat upgrade /revamp whatever was coming for eons before it was implemented is not the fault of the company but the fault of the consumer ignoring it. If i knew it as someone who had like 20 posts max then it was well publicised.
So bottom line nothing was really a surprise that happened the people that complained about the overpowered proffessions etc are the ones that are likely the ones that got upset and post to this board for 3 years wanting what they wanted to get rid of back. Many people are unsatisfyable. I consider a person who cannot move on after 3 years wanting to debate all the merits of something they can't have back to be someone who is not satisfyable as far as unrealistic excpectations and needs. Its over period end of sentance you wont get it back so what is the point of the endless circular debate taht goes on year in and year out on this board for no other reason then to just be miserable.
I think a great many people are so happy being misearable that its so much more satisfying then finding another game to have fun with that they simply don't know how to change, stop or move on. I dont know but its not normal. The game is the game it actualy in many respects works better then it did before and has I can guarantee you much much more content then it did before so that if you dont want to group you have plenty of other things you can do instead.
They are revamping the Weaponsmith proff and it looks like a great revamp to me as I have a weaponsmith and I can't wait for it. This is a huge change and a positive one but i'm sure that people who hate change will have something negative to say about it even though its the right thing to do. Bottom line people were leaving before the revamp. Lucas arts who had a hand in this is never ever brought to task on the issue only sony .. people have tunnel vision but lucas arts is as much to blame for what you hate as sony is because if they had said NO it would not have happened. I would bet good money on the fact though that the population would not have stayed at what it was then not with the advent of WoW and other games for which many people were leaving for anyhow. What you hate was change some people hate change. The fact of the matter is if you play MMORPG's if you hate change you will be eternally pissed off and unsatisfied so go buy a stand alone PC game and forget about MMORPG's because your not likelyl one who can ever be satisfied as there willl always be something wrong that doesn't work right.
PS. you in most cases here is not singular but plural and it stands for every vet who is unable to let go and to this day remains unstatisfied with a game they likely screamed about bitterly on the sony forums from release till the revamp and afterwards of course..
I have moved on; this has nothing to do with not moving on. I just don't believe in historical revisionsim. Obraik is the only person I have ever actually met in game who likes things better now. I don't hate anyone, that kind of attitude is not in me, but that doesn't mean that I won't call the unethical the unethical, the incompetent the incompetent.
I happen to know exactly what happened and Lucas Arts is partially to blame, but SOE is by far mostly to blame. When you hire an expert to do something, and they screw it up, in one sense it is your fault because you should not have trsuted them, but that's it. Otherwise it is the person you hired's fault.
I love changes, changes have made me a very successful man. But there is good change and bad change. there is well managed changed and a botch.
SWG has been a complete botch. Glad you like it, but the entire known universe, and everyone I have ever met in game BUT ONE, thinks you are wrong.
Try next time to avoid erzatz psycholanalysis about change and MY reaction to it. the NGE was a bad change, and only a very tiny fraction feel otherwise. Now, you and the couple of people who agree with you may be the unknown geniuses who see some greatness we do not, but somehow, looking at your method of argumentation, your need to resort to psychoanysis to explain people who disagree with you, and your inability to even reason a thing through in this case, somehow I doubt that.
Nothing you say actually proves anything you assert. Just blanket assertions and then attack the mental health of your opposition. Bad form all around.
Rules 2, 4, 6 and 8.
fishermage.blogspot.com
What is sad is that he needs to attack the mental health of people who simply disagree with him. He needs to make a false claim that what we don't like is change, when he knows nothing about any of us, that our feelings stem from some irrationality, and that it is up to HIM to decide when others need to just shut up.
To return his own tactics to him, sounds like he is a person with difficulties in coping with the opinions of others. Pity. Perhaps the internet is not the place for him to spend his time.
fishermage.blogspot.com
And his rebuttal to that would be: those 250K are mentally ill, and he and his 10K buddies are the healthy ones. Well as someone who plays the game, I know he is not being truthful. Out of the 10K that play the game, maybe five or six actually think the NGE is an improvment. The rest are merely people playing for a bad game because they love star wars or still have friends who play.
Actually I feel it is about 25K who play the game, but I'm a gracious and generous sorta guy. It's still only maybe five or six who think it's better now.
fishermage.blogspot.com
What is sad is that he needs to attack the mental health of people who simply disagree with him. He needs to make a false claim that what we don't like is change, when he knows nothing about any of us, that our feelings stem from some irrationality, and that it is up to HIM to decide when others need to just shut up.
To return his own tactics to him, sounds like he is a person with difficulties in coping with the opinions of others. Pity. Perhaps the internet is not the place for him to spend his time.
I'm sure your healthy as a horse however it still makes no sense that this argument has gone on for 3 years and I actualy never said if i agreed with either side and haven't in most posts. This debate has gone on for like 3 years .. its like those horrible soap operas and I know that next year when I return the debate will be identical with the same points being made over and over and over again. Its like well silly. So i ask why for 3 long years people insist on saying the same thing that is already here for everyone to read, but in every single thread. Someone posts a question they get told to uninstall the game or some long winded reason as to why the game sucks big time now but didn't before (it actualy sucked back then to but whatever.. it sucks equally as much now but in different ways.. however its never been a stupendous epic game to beat all games its always been just an average little game to pass the time with during those long cold winter months and nothing more).. But some poor schmo posts a thread (kinda like the original post in this one actually and says something positive) and some people come along and in many cases call them "evil" for daring to say such a thing especially if they are vets. The worste possible crime you can be on this forum is to be a vet and still play and enjoy the present game that's like a horrible horrible thing.
what I also want to know is why every single thread always ends the same way. In a debate about the Pre-Cu and the NGE when the guy could have posted about anything. Heck I can post a thread here with shots of my cat just to show up. Or maybe my new armour or something. and that innocent little thread will without a doubt be twisted and turned into a debate about the now very very gone previous game. See now this game you speak of it doesn't exist its gone. This forum your on this particular subforum is for the PRESENT GAME .. there is a forum below opened up especially for those who want to endlessly speak about what they dont have now and what ended 3 years ago. Its filled with bitter people wanting to sue SOE. These omg the old system was the coolest and the new system sucks stuff can be heald in one single thread in that forum... but people choose to have it ooze into every thread on this forum.
here are some simple facts.
SWG made a new game and took away the old one.
Some people play the new game
Some people dont play the new game
/walks away from thread for another few days to be assured that the endless debate will still be here and not have moved an inch.
/gaulks at the silly people some more
/goes back to finishing the kitchen renovations and hopes that the cat hasn't made some new artwork
*this is not the game your looking for*
You realize that by participating you are perpetuating the debate, right? If it makes no sense why do you bother?
What is sad is that he needs to attack the mental health of people who simply disagree with him. He needs to make a false claim that what we don't like is change, when he knows nothing about any of us, that our feelings stem from some irrationality, and that it is up to HIM to decide when others need to just shut up.
To return his own tactics to him, sounds like he is a person with difficulties in coping with the opinions of others. Pity. Perhaps the internet is not the place for him to spend his time.
Yeah it's just an overall lack of understanding I think, on the behalf of ummax. I just don't think it quite grasps why we still fight on it's behalf against unethical treatment. Anyone who actually prefers the NGE to anything else clearly has some taste issues...
The internet isn't for everyone I suppose.
Tecmo Bowl.
What is sad is that he needs to attack the mental health of people who simply disagree with him. He needs to make a false claim that what we don't like is change, when he knows nothing about any of us, that our feelings stem from some irrationality, and that it is up to HIM to decide when others need to just shut up.
To return his own tactics to him, sounds like he is a person with difficulties in coping with the opinions of others. Pity. Perhaps the internet is not the place for him to spend his time.
I'm sure your healthy as a horse however it still makes no sense that this argument has gone on for 3 years and I actualy never said if i agreed with either side and haven't in most posts. This debate has gone on for like 3 years .. its like those horrible soap operas and I know that next year when I return the debate will be identical with the same points being made over and over and over again. Its like well silly. So i ask why for 3 long years people insist on saying the same thing that is already here for everyone to read, but in every single thread. Someone posts a question they get told to uninstall the game or some long winded reason as to why the game sucks big time now but didn't before (it actualy sucked back then to but whatever.. it sucks equally as much now but in different ways.. however its never been a stupendous epic game to beat all games its always been just an average little game to pass the time with during those long cold winter months and nothing more).. But some poor schmo posts a thread (kinda like the original post in this one actually and says something positive) and some people come along and in many cases call them "evil" for daring to say such a thing especially if they are vets. The worste possible crime you can be on this forum is to be a vet and still play and enjoy the present game that's like a horrible horrible thing.
what I also want to know is why every single thread always ends the same way. In a debate about the Pre-Cu and the NGE when the guy could have posted about anything. Heck I can post a thread here with shots of my cat just to show up. Or maybe my new armour or something. and that innocent little thread will without a doubt be twisted and turned into a debate about the now very very gone previous game. See now this game you speak of it doesn't exist its gone. This forum your on this particular subforum is for the PRESENT GAME .. there is a forum below opened up especially for those who want to endlessly speak about what they dont have now and what ended 3 years ago. Its filled with bitter people wanting to sue SOE. These omg the old system was the coolest and the new system sucks stuff can be heald in one single thread in that forum... but people choose to have it ooze into every thread on this forum.
here are some simple facts.
SWG made a new game and took away the old one.
Some people play the new game
Some people dont play the new game
/walks away from thread for another few days to be assured that the endless debate will still be here and not have moved an inch.
/gaulks at the silly people some more
/goes back to finishing the kitchen renovations and hopes that the cat hasn't made some new artwork
*this is not the game your looking for*
And your point is? If you don't care, don't post. If you don't care, don't read. If it bothers you soo much, then please, go do something else.
When you can't win the argument, you attack the other side, then when that doesn't work, the whole discussion -- yet it is YOU who helped bring it here.
fishermage.blogspot.com
My question is simple and has yet to elicit any "real' answer from anyone only arguments and round about rationalizations. The question remains the same from the first day I posted it and is this
Why after 3 years do people persist to flog what is not just a dead horse but bleached bones turned to dust blowing in the wind. The dead horse doesn't even exist any longer yet people continue to flog it .. The question that never gets answered is "why" its a simple question. Everyone knows why you guys hate sony and that you want SWG back they knew that ages ago (anyone that payed any attention or was likely to care) The issue is basically a dead issue except in the minds of a very small number. Most have moved on. The question again is Why do you persist to say the same thing over and over again and just not like well realize its over because it is. Again its a simple question a very simple question.
We have on this forum
-one guy who thinks of SWG as the second comming of the messiah (although he has been absent as of late perhaps he has gotten some help finally)
-one guy who posts the identical post in every thread about the population and rarely says anything else and if he does its usually wrong because he has not played from the looks of it in years.
- a few people that need to "get the message out" about how sony screwed the client base and lied" okay that message has been out for a very long time saying it repeatedly doesn't change the message only looks like people have nothing more to say just the same old tired thing
So here I am still waiting for an answer to a question of why people feel it necessary to flog a dead horse that doesn't even exist any longer because it died so long ago.
Flog aaway but the horse its so danged old its gone without a trace.. so flog air now.. keep at it for the next 20 odd years whatever. It makes the community in general look very very bad
So here is what I care about. The rational and reasoning behind why a handful of people would persist for 3 loonng YEARS to send the same identical message day in and day out in every thread even if its totally off topic the topic can be twisted. Why do so called healthy individuals do this. You claim to be sane. Is this sane behaviour?
What is sad is that he needs to attack the mental health of people who simply disagree with him. He needs to make a false claim that what we don't like is change, when he knows nothing about any of us, that our feelings stem from some irrationality, and that it is up to HIM to decide when others need to just shut up.
To return his own tactics to him, sounds like he is a person with difficulties in coping with the opinions of others. Pity. Perhaps the internet is not the place for him to spend his time.
I'm sure your healthy as a horse however it still makes no sense that this argument has gone on for 3 years and I actualy never said if i agreed with either side and haven't in most posts. This debate has gone on for like 3 years .. its like those horrible soap operas and I know that next year when I return the debate will be identical with the same points being made over and over and over again. Its like well silly. So i ask why for 3 long years people insist on saying the same thing that is already here for everyone to read, but in every single thread. Someone posts a question they get told to uninstall the game or some long winded reason as to why the game sucks big time now but didn't before (it actualy sucked back then to but whatever.. it sucks equally as much now but in different ways.. however its never been a stupendous epic game to beat all games its always been just an average little game to pass the time with during those long cold winter months and nothing more).. But some poor schmo posts a thread (kinda like the original post in this one actually and says something positive) and some people come along and in many cases call them "evil" for daring to say such a thing especially if they are vets. The worste possible crime you can be on this forum is to be a vet and still play and enjoy the present game that's like a horrible horrible thing.
what I also want to know is why every single thread always ends the same way. In a debate about the Pre-Cu and the NGE when the guy could have posted about anything. Heck I can post a thread here with shots of my cat just to show up. Or maybe my new armour or something. and that innocent little thread will without a doubt be twisted and turned into a debate about the now very very gone previous game. See now this game you speak of it doesn't exist its gone. This forum your on this particular subforum is for the PRESENT GAME .. there is a forum below opened up especially for those who want to endlessly speak about what they dont have now and what ended 3 years ago. Its filled with bitter people wanting to sue SOE. These omg the old system was the coolest and the new system sucks stuff can be heald in one single thread in that forum... but people choose to have it ooze into every thread on this forum.
here are some simple facts.
SWG made a new game and took away the old one.
Some people play the new game
Some people dont play the new game
/walks away from thread for another few days to be assured that the endless debate will still be here and not have moved an inch.
/gaulks at the silly people some more
/goes back to finishing the kitchen renovations and hopes that the cat hasn't made some new artwork
*this is not the game your looking for*
And your point is? If you don't care, don't post. If you don't care, don't read. If it bothers you soo much, then please, go do something else.
When you can't win the argument, you attack the other side, then when that doesn't work, the whole discussion -- yet it is YOU who helped bring it here.
My question is simple and has yet to elicit any "real' answer from anyone only arguments and round about rationalizations. The question remains the same from the first day I posted it and is this
Why after 3 years do people persist to flog what is not just a dead horse but bleached bones turned to dust blowing in the wind. The dead horse doesn't even exist any longer yet people continue to flog it .. The question that never gets answered is "why" its a simple question. Everyone knows why you guys hate sony and that you want SWG back they knew that ages ago (anyone that payed any attention or was likely to care) The issue is basically a dead issue except in the minds of a very small number. Most have moved on. The question again is Why do you persist to say the same thing over and over again and just not like well realize its over because it is. Again its a simple question a very simple question.
We have on this forum
-one guy who thinks of SWG as the second comming of the messiah (although he has been absent as of late perhaps he has gotten some help finally)
-one guy who posts the identical post in every thread about the population and rarely says anything else and if he does its usually wrong because he has not played from the looks of it in years.
- a few people that need to "get the message out" about how sony screwed the client base and lied" okay that message has been out for a very long time saying it repeatedly doesn't change the message only looks like people have nothing more to say just the same old tired thing
So here I am still waiting for an answer to a question of why people feel it necessary to flog a dead horse that doesn't even exist any longer because it died so long ago.
Flog aaway but the horse its so danged old its gone without a trace.. so flog air now.. keep at it for the next 20 odd years whatever. It makes the community in general look very very bad
So here is what I care about. The rational and reasoning behind why a handful of people would persist for 3 loonng YEARS to send the same identical message day in and day out in every thread even if its totally off topic the topic can be twisted. Why do so called healthy individuals do this. You claim to be sane. Is this sane behaviour?
More childish personal attacks. Nothing to see here, move along, move along. You really need to get over it.
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Perhaps when one of those emails contains a link to a public apology, some form of ACTION that shows they mean they are sorry and some form of plan showing they will not behave as such again then maybe people will let things rest.
However since SOE seems content to keep on marching along without even trying to make peace, why should anyone else? You cannot have it both ways you know.
ummax you are the one that keeps the discussion going. We give facts, we have played the game recently, and unlike you and Obraik we played the game when it came out. We fully understand the intricacies of this topic.
You question our sanity yet you are the one that keeps it going. Fine by me, makes for easy debate.
Tecmo Bowl.
Still can't answer the question huh?
We here because WE are the Star wars community and SOE failed to replace us.
Again WE are the community, adapt to the fact.
Still can't answer the question huh?
Sure I can, the only problem is, it would be immoral of me to continue to feed your trolling by answering it. When you actually ask a reasonable and responsible question, and refrain from your personal attacks, which are irrelevant to the discussion, then we can have a discussion like adults.
Until that time, I'll merely call you on your bad form.
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Again WE are the community, adapt to the fact.
Plus it begs the question, what made him God enough to pronounce the issue a "dead horse." That is the major premise which fails, and all subsequent questions and statements from him are therfore irrelevant if they follow from that premise.
It is by definition NOT a dead horse, because people still talk about it. A dead horse is not decided by Ummax, it is determined by the people. The people, both here and in every game I play, have decided it is NOT a dead horse. They all know what SOE did, all feel as we do, and ONLY a handful of SOE fans consider it a "dead horse," because it harms a company they have chosen to worship.
To that end they have embarked on a campaign of malligning those who speak out against their beloved SOE, and of course, since it is all they have, must attack the mental health of all who would speak out against her, the company they have chosen to love.
They can't argue the issue, so they must declare it a "dead horse" and then personally attack their opponents. Kinda sad actually, but that's what it's like to be without a case.
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Hmmm Why
1) It was the game we payed for.
2) The underhanded why they changed it....
3) SW-nge if you like it so much go play it we wont..