I can think of very few things better years in to those games too. AoC is basically WoW at its core. So I am shocked that the WoW fanclub doesn't like it. What do you believe is better about those games? (and comparison of community and extent of content etc. means nothing to a game that has been out a few hours)
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
I can think of very few things better years in to those games too. AoC is basically WoW at its core. So I am shocked that the WoW fanclub doesn't like it. What do you believe is better about those games? (and comparison of community and extent of content etc. means nothing to a game that has been out a few hours)
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
I got brainwashed by commies.
No seriously, I kinda flipped from being constantly bombarded by this fluff = EVERYTHING. For me the core game design is the basis - the rest is fluff. Ofc fluff sells, but you cannot do anything if you don't have a good solid game design foundation. Sadly, devs time and again build fluff on silt and wonder what the hell happened - look at all the cool gfx and stories we have?
I can think of very few things better years in to those games too. AoC is basically WoW at its core. So I am shocked that the WoW fanclub doesn't like it. What do you believe is better about those games? (and comparison of community and extent of content etc. means nothing to a game that has been out a few hours)
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
Sarcasm mate...
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
So people being split into different servers is a bad thing now...?
I figured that was a good thing. It means that there is simply too much of an overabundance of players, therefore splitting people to ensure a faster performance for everyone. No matter how high-tech you get you simply can't fit so many people in one area with today's technology, even if it's a game with little performance reqs like WoW. Sorry, WoW doesn't count... if you've actually been in the same place with more than a couple hundred people within a couple yards of one another (a typical raid in the game), you'd understand. I think AoC is one of the few games that realizes the importance of splitting players.
There are ways to split servers without being forced to pick only one. Runescape - you can freely switch servers. It's also an interesting case, because you can instantly switch classes too. Just kind of weird.
Runescape is a browser-based game, it's much easier. Also, just wait until this hype dies down. As the OP said, it's been 72 hours. She uses it as her strong point, but it's also the biggest weakness. Who knows how long before she thinks its just another boring MMO? But of course it seems new and shiny now. Once the pop. drops a bit, they probably won't have to split the servers so much.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
I know everyone on this site hates WoW as do I, but WoW has over 10mil subs..........As compared to any other mmo on the market which has less than 1mil subs. Which means 10 million people prefer wow over the estimated guess of 3 million that play all the other pay 2 play mmos on the market, so you tell me which mmo is considered the greatest.....?
meh, to each their own per their own preferences. i haven't played too many mmos (EQ/AC/DAoC/WoW/LoTRO(beta)/AoC), but PERSONALLY, the amount of fun/enjoyment/interest i've had in AoC in the last 2 weeks of playing has overshadowed anything else i've experienced in any of the other games i've mentioned. whether just taking the same time frame into the equation (i.e. the first 2 weeks of playing the game) or just taking the 2 weeks in AoC against my whole time in any of the other ones.
I personally don't care what anyone else thinks of any MMO, you'd be an idiot to do so quite frankly, since they're not the ones that are going to be playing it for you.
If you love UO or EQ then by god that's the best MMO out there, for you. If you get wood over AC or LoTRO, then by god either of THOSE are the best MMO's out there, for you.
Great! go and enjoy whatever you enjoy, and stop pretending you can speak for anyone else's tastes/preferences.
I am curious. It is 72-hours after launch so I can see why people have strong emotions still tied in to games that they have played for thousands of hours, but I read all of these posts about how Age of Conan isn't the greatest and that there are so many better games out there. Oh Really? Where? I would love to play one of those. Combat? Quests? Equipment? Classes? Graphics? Sound? Skills? (strange this is my number one priority in a game yet it is almost never mentioned by most other MMO players, aside from the rediculous mythical quest for 'balance' issues.) Most of these posts reference some vague 'betterness' elsewhere but leave the specifics to the readers imagination. I am curious, all of the parts of AoC that people, a few hours in to the game, are saying aren't as good as other games - really? What Games Have Better MMORPG Components?
in order..
LOTRO
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Vanguard
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest 2
[ insert rationalisation here ]
WoW
[ insert rationalisation here ]
EvE
[ insert rationalisation here ]
.. do you need me to keep going?
Age of Conan is built like a console game, except it doesn't run nearly as good as a console game... [ insert rationalisation here ]
LOL. You ask for a list of games that anyone thought was better than AoC. You got a list. You never asked for a rationalisation of with that list. If a question is asked, please ask the whole question and not a vauge one that can be easily answered with a simole list.. I myself hate WOW, but just renewed my sub. in order to play with my children. However, WOW does IMO, have a better game playing experence for people.
You ask 100 different people to give you a list in order of which is in their minds a better MMO than AoC. You will also get 100 different answers. I personaly think Vanguard, COX, and EQ2, heck even UO are better games than AoC. I can't bring myself to play AoC longer than one hour at a time. The game play for AoC is a painful experence for me and not enjoyable. I thought the early graphics I saw in dev. looked better than the finished game too. AoC is a beautiful game, but IMHO, Vanguard looks better and allows you to do more of what "YOU" want to do and sooner!
Truthfully, alot of games. The biggest thing missing from this game (AoC) is the connectivity towards community, the instancing pulls everyone apart at each zone , and it will plague any type of role playing as your trying to keep emmersed in the loading screen . Think a lot fo folk who actual pvpers of the hardcore nature are looking forward to Darkfalls pvp , which will be by land and sea battles as well as sea to land and vice versa. The city building and seiging is also in darkfall will be a lot more parrelell to Shadowbane, and we will see a lot of SB guilds moving to DF. Granted, DF will not be for everyone and it will absolutely be a niche game for the people who are salivating for full loot pvp. AoC just missed the boat interms of "massive" the world doesn't seem massive at all , it is linear and has a platform game feel that is truly not exceptable in this market of pc gaming. The computers and technology are ready for a full world exp without having to load into an instance. AoC would of been ground breaking title if the would of tried that much harder to create an actual game world instead of just tieing bits and pieces together through instancing. Think you will see fair scores ranging from 70-89% and I will be shocked to see anything above 90% for this game.
If you actually read about the game first, you would've known the way the game was set up. So you aren't intelligent enough to find info about something you want to purchase? Then you come here and act like Funcom said the game was going to be seamless in the first place.
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
Truthfully, alot of games. The biggest thing missing from this game (AoC) is the connectivity towards community, the instancing pulls everyone apart at each zone , and it will plague any type of role playing as your trying to keep emmersed in the loading screen . Think a lot fo folk who actual pvpers of the hardcore nature are looking forward to Darkfalls pvp , which will be by land and sea battles as well as sea to land and vice versa. The city building and seiging is also in darkfall will be a lot more parrelell to Shadowbane, and we will see a lot of SB guilds moving to DF. Granted, DF will not be for everyone and it will absolutely be a niche game for the people who are salivating for full loot pvp. AoC just missed the boat interms of "massive" the world doesn't seem massive at all , it is linear and has a platform game feel that is truly not exceptable in this market of pc gaming. The computers and technology are ready for a full world exp without having to load into an instance. AoC would of been ground breaking title if the would of tried that much harder to create an actual game world instead of just tieing bits and pieces together through instancing. Think you will see fair scores ranging from 70-89% and I will be shocked to see anything above 90% for this game.
If you actually read about the game first, you would've known the way the game was set up. So you aren't intelligent enough to find info about something you want to purchase? Then you come here and act like Funcom said the game was going to be seamless in the first place.
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
They never "made it sound like it was done like wow". You are exactly the type of person I was describing in my post.
I guarantee all the people complaining about instances haven't even gotten out of Tortage. I just laugh when I keep hearing cries about "breaking immersion". Oh..no..a 5 second loading screen, it's just ruining my experience. Give it a rest. I guess WoW doesn't break immersion when it asks you which of the 35 different instances of the BG you want to run?
Truthfully, alot of games. The biggest thing missing from this game (AoC) is the connectivity towards community, the instancing pulls everyone apart at each zone , and it will plague any type of role playing as your trying to keep emmersed in the loading screen . Think a lot fo folk who actual pvpers of the hardcore nature are looking forward to Darkfalls pvp , which will be by land and sea battles as well as sea to land and vice versa. The city building and seiging is also in darkfall will be a lot more parrelell to Shadowbane, and we will see a lot of SB guilds moving to DF. Granted, DF will not be for everyone and it will absolutely be a niche game for the people who are salivating for full loot pvp. AoC just missed the boat interms of "massive" the world doesn't seem massive at all , it is linear and has a platform game feel that is truly not exceptable in this market of pc gaming. The computers and technology are ready for a full world exp without having to load into an instance. AoC would of been ground breaking title if the would of tried that much harder to create an actual game world instead of just tieing bits and pieces together through instancing. Think you will see fair scores ranging from 70-89% and I will be shocked to see anything above 90% for this game.
If you actually read about the game first, you would've known the way the game was set up. So you aren't intelligent enough to find info about something you want to purchase? Then you come here and act like Funcom said the game was going to be seamless in the first place.
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
They never "made it sound like it was done like wow". You are exactly the type of person I was describing in my post.
Man, you must be the dumbest person I ever read.... I have never said I expected it to be seamless as you said in your post. I knew it was instanced, I read about the "new combat" system". I thought it would have been a great thing too. As I stated. I was suckered into it as around 800k were. I bought the game on my own, and after giving it a try. It sucks for me. By the way, I too hate WOW, just resub'ed. tonight in order to play with my children for awhile. You know, family bonding thing...??? So, I am nothing like you stated in your post. I merely said the Funcom had a great Marketing team that needed a raise for turning a crappy game into a great one, or at least make it look great... Please remember what you stated in your posts, esp. when trying to flame someone for not thinking / brainwashing like you.
I guarantee all the people complaining about instances haven't even gotten out of Tortage. I just laugh when I keep hearing cries about "breaking immersion". Oh..no..a 5 second loading screen, it's just ruining my experience. Give it a rest. I guess WoW doesn't break immersion when it asks you which of the 35 different instances of the BG you want to run?
LOL, can't make it out of tortage if you pains you to play for more than an hour. Let alone 20+ hours to escape that hell hole. 20 levels of turtorial? What joke. I don't need 20+ hours of play to learn the basics of a game. Don't need to wast 20+ hours and forces myself to see whats on the other side either. I have read what alot of people say about lack of content after lvl 20 and higher. And no, I'm no fan of WOW either.
I loved a lot of things about different MMO's EQ2, LotRO, WoW, SWG. After a while you need something different. EQ2, loved the community, SWG pretty loved it all - til the CU then NGE, WoW its becoming too much of a rep grind, LotRO, seems a bit slow combat wise to me.
There are good and bad things about each game, as with Conan. We'll have to wait and see how people take to it.
AoC has one major problem right now. Too many people are judging it on the Tortage content. Essentially, 1/4th the levels in the game are one big, huge, mostly single-player tutorial. Now, it DOES build a sense of story and give the player time to get the hang of the nuances of the fairly complex combat system (compared to say, WoW, anyway...)
But, it also feels lonely and empty if you spend a lot of time on Night Side. And because it's such a long period (and sorry but 20 levels is a lot), it feels like the whole game will be just like Tortage.
Honestly, Funcom shoulda made it ten levels, or even 5. You'd come out with a lot less preparedness, but a better feel for the community.
I agree. People for the most part seem to be basing the game on Tortage, which is great, but seems a bit long and I'm itching to get out of it.. My char is lvl 18. In my opinion, they should've made the leveling slower and have people leave the island at 10 instead of 20.
I gace this an entire evening and nada... zip,,, nothing.
Read through this entire thread. Aside from INSTANCINGwhich virtually disappears after Tortage, there is not a single point of fact or data to say why this game is beaten by ANY, let alone so many other games.
There are blank, empty references AGAIN to the fact that every game since pong is better than Age of Conan, but they are completely devoid of any explination as to why this might be so, or why the poster isn't lying through their teeth (keyboard)
As was stated by a brilliant poster, of whom I have forgotten who said it, almost every one posting on these fora are speaking as the little tiny whiney population of Tortage NOT the expansive world of Hyboria. I spent the evening playing a few levels and doing about a dozen and a half missions in the mid 20's
I zoned/instanced once. Once. That is less than an evening in WoW.
I guess we have called the bluff of the people flaming this game. Is in my favorite? no. Asheron's Call is my favorite game as I have said in virtually every post for the last decade... and you can see my long drawn out explinations as to why Asheron's Call is a substantually better game than all the EQ-clones like WoW... but AoC is better than any other game I have played since... including WoW, EQ, EQ2, AC2, AO, TR, LotRO, DAoC, AO, CoV, CoH and likely a few others that were so bad I have forgotten them completely.
I guess the flamers have not a single real tid-bit of fact to back up their baseless, hollow emotional claims.
See you in Hyboria
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
Interesting... I gace this an entire evening and nada... zip,,, nothing. Read through this entire thread. Aside from INSTANCINGwhich virtually disappears after Tortage, there is not a single point of fact or data to say why this game is beaten by ANY, let alone so many other games. There are blank, empty references AGAIN to the fact that every game since pong is better than Age of Conan, but they are completely devoid of any explination as to why this might be so, or why the poster isn't lying through their teeth (keyboard) As was stated by a brilliant poster, of whom I have forgotten who said it, almost every one posting on these fora are speaking as the little tiny whiney population of Tortage NOT the expansive world of Hyboria. I spent the evening playing a few levels and doing about a dozen and a half missions in the mid 20's I zoned/instanced once. Once. That is less than an evening in WoW. I guess we have called the bluff of the people flaming this game. Is in my favorite? no. Asheron's Call is my favorite game as I have said in virtually every post for the last decade... and you can see my long drawn out explinations as to why Asheron's Call is a substantually better game than all the EQ-clones like WoW... but AoC is better than any other game I have played since... including WoW, EQ, EQ2, AC2, AO, TR, LotRO, DAoC, AO, CoV, CoH and likely a few others that were so bad I have forgotten them completely. I guess the flamers have not a single real tid-bit of fact to back up their baseless, hollow emotional claims. See you in Hyboria
No, you haven't. Some people dont like it and as much as you might try to convince yourself that some of the complaints are not legitimate, plainly, they are. Im happy you like the game, but trying to imply that AoC has none of the problems it obviously has is an excercise in futility. While some people are here to rip the game apart, others have legitimate gripes, complaints and issues that are based in fact.
Interesting... I gace this an entire evening and nada... zip,,, nothing. Read through this entire thread. Aside from INSTANCINGwhich virtually disappears after Tortage, there is not a single point of fact or data to say why this game is beaten by ANY, let alone so many other games. There are blank, empty references AGAIN to the fact that every game since pong is better than Age of Conan, but they are completely devoid of any explination as to why this might be so, or why the poster isn't lying through their teeth (keyboard) As was stated by a brilliant poster, of whom I have forgotten who said it, almost every one posting on these fora are speaking as the little tiny whiney population of Tortage NOT the expansive world of Hyboria. I spent the evening playing a few levels and doing about a dozen and a half missions in the mid 20's I zoned/instanced once. Once. That is less than an evening in WoW. I guess we have called the bluff of the people flaming this game. Is in my favorite? no. Asheron's Call is my favorite game as I have said in virtually every post for the last decade... and you can see my long drawn out explinations as to why Asheron's Call is a substantually better game than all the EQ-clones like WoW... but AoC is better than any other game I have played since... including WoW, EQ, EQ2, AC2, AO, TR, LotRO, DAoC, AO, CoV, CoH and likely a few others that were so bad I have forgotten them completely. I guess the flamers have not a single real tid-bit of fact to back up their baseless, hollow emotional claims. See you in Hyboria
Here's the thing. I pre-ordered Age of Conan. I paid my $5 to get into the early access... and now I'm ready to go to Best Buy and transfer my pre-order to something else. The truth is that Age of Conan needed to be drastically better than any other mmo on the market today. The bottom line is that it isn't.
The combat is supposed to be revolutionary. It isn't! Besides "fatalities", I don't think this game offers me anything that I can't get from somewhere else... and that somewhere else delivers a better product. I know I'll get blasted for saying this but until a game... any game delivers the kind of experience that World of Warcraft offers... then there simply isn't any reason for me to pay 14.99 on a lesser game!
I only read the first couple of pages of comments and about LotRO not having the kind of numbers that Age of Conan has. We'll see what kind of numbers AoC can substain after six months on the market. I can tell you that LotRO was a finished product from the moment that I released.... I can't say the same for AoC. There are just too many things about the game that make me shake my head and make me wonder... why did they do that? I dunno. Age of Conan is alright.... but it's not the king of mmo's... and it won't be.
I had lower expectations for AoC than most, but when I played it I was impressed with the combat system most of all. It seems to reward those that keep situational awareness more than most. For those that don't like, that's good and all, and I wish you luck in finding your game. But please, don't bash, because I won't bait for it either.
AOC is 5th on my list. In order for me. 1. WAR beta(yes i said beta), 2. DAOC, 3. EQ1, 4. LOTRO, 5. EQ2, oh crap i guess 6th. As far as released games go , it s DAOC for me. I haven t had a omg i love this game feeling since that game at all(until now witha certain beta)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
http://www.facebook.com/thejodygilbert
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
I got brainwashed by commies.
No seriously, I kinda flipped from being constantly bombarded by this fluff = EVERYTHING. For me the core game design is the basis - the rest is fluff. Ofc fluff sells, but you cannot do anything if you don't have a good solid game design foundation. Sadly, devs time and again build fluff on silt and wonder what the hell happened - look at all the cool gfx and stories we have?
I'll stop my rant here.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!
I thought AoC is NOTHING like WoW and it's a truly revolutionary next-gen thing which will change the face of MMOs with its never-before-seen original awesomeness?
Wasn't WAR supposed to be a WoW clone?
Ummm... where did you get that idea? WAR a WoW clone? Seriously, where did you get that idea?
Sarcasm mate...
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
So people being split into different servers is a bad thing now...?
I figured that was a good thing. It means that there is simply too much of an overabundance of players, therefore splitting people to ensure a faster performance for everyone. No matter how high-tech you get you simply can't fit so many people in one area with today's technology, even if it's a game with little performance reqs like WoW. Sorry, WoW doesn't count... if you've actually been in the same place with more than a couple hundred people within a couple yards of one another (a typical raid in the game), you'd understand. I think AoC is one of the few games that realizes the importance of splitting players.
There are ways to split servers without being forced to pick only one.
Runescape - you can freely switch servers.
It's also an interesting case, because you can instantly switch classes too. Just kind of weird.
Runescape is a browser-based game, it's much easier. Also, just wait until this hype dies down. As the OP said, it's been 72 hours. She uses it as her strong point, but it's also the biggest weakness. Who knows how long before she thinks its just another boring MMO? But of course it seems new and shiny now. Once the pop. drops a bit, they probably won't have to split the servers so much.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I know everyone on this site hates WoW as do I, but WoW has over 10mil subs..........As compared to any other mmo on the market which has less than 1mil subs. Which means 10 million people prefer wow over the estimated guess of 3 million that play all the other pay 2 play mmos on the market, so you tell me which mmo is considered the greatest.....?
anyways my fav mmo of all time was pre cu swg.
meh, to each their own per their own preferences. i haven't played too many mmos (EQ/AC/DAoC/WoW/LoTRO(beta)/AoC), but PERSONALLY, the amount of fun/enjoyment/interest i've had in AoC in the last 2 weeks of playing has overshadowed anything else i've experienced in any of the other games i've mentioned. whether just taking the same time frame into the equation (i.e. the first 2 weeks of playing the game) or just taking the 2 weeks in AoC against my whole time in any of the other ones.
I personally don't care what anyone else thinks of any MMO, you'd be an idiot to do so quite frankly, since they're not the ones that are going to be playing it for you.
If you love UO or EQ then by god that's the best MMO out there, for you. If you get wood over AC or LoTRO, then by god either of THOSE are the best MMO's out there, for you.
Great! go and enjoy whatever you enjoy, and stop pretending you can speak for anyone else's tastes/preferences.
AoC is the most fun I've had since Star Wars Galaxies at launch. End of story.
in order..
LOTRO
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Vanguard
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest
[ insert rationalisation here ]
Everquest 2
[ insert rationalisation here ]
WoW
[ insert rationalisation here ]
EvE
[ insert rationalisation here ]
.. do you need me to keep going?
Age of Conan is built like a console game, except it doesn't run nearly as good as a console game... [ insert rationalisation here ]
LOL. You ask for a list of games that anyone thought was better than AoC. You got a list. You never asked for a rationalisation of with that list. If a question is asked, please ask the whole question and not a vauge one that can be easily answered with a simole list.. I myself hate WOW, but just renewed my sub. in order to play with my children. However, WOW does IMO, have a better game playing experence for people.
You ask 100 different people to give you a list in order of which is in their minds a better MMO than AoC. You will also get 100 different answers. I personaly think Vanguard, COX, and EQ2, heck even UO are better games than AoC. I can't bring myself to play AoC longer than one hour at a time. The game play for AoC is a painful experence for me and not enjoyable. I thought the early graphics I saw in dev. looked better than the finished game too. AoC is a beautiful game, but IMHO, Vanguard looks better and allows you to do more of what "YOU" want to do and sooner!
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
They never "made it sound like it was done like wow". You are exactly the type of person I was describing in my post.
I guarantee all the people complaining about instances haven't even gotten out of Tortage. I just laugh when I keep hearing cries about "breaking immersion". Oh..no..a 5 second loading screen, it's just ruining my experience. Give it a rest. I guess WoW doesn't break immersion when it asks you which of the 35 different instances of the BG you want to run?
Do you order steak and then complain it doesn't taste like chicken?
I believe most poeple who purchased this game, myself included, did research it first. I knew it was instanced, but they made it sound like it was done like WOW. Even though I am not a fan of instanced games, I gave it a try. It is no where instanced like WOW or AO is. Totaly worse IMHO.
Ofcourse any game maker will hype their product up some in order to sell it. I believe Funcom did a wonderful job in hyping a awful game into a world class one. Brave to their marketing team. They deserve a raise!!! Too bad there isn't any laws to cover software returns. I am sure Funcom's 800k would drop 33-50% then. I'm just glad I didn't buy 3 copies of AoC that I was going to buy. One for myself and each of my daughters. Boy would I have been pissed then. But I only lost $50. No biggie.
They never "made it sound like it was done like wow". You are exactly the type of person I was describing in my post.
Man, you must be the dumbest person I ever read.... I have never said I expected it to be seamless as you said in your post. I knew it was instanced, I read about the "new combat" system". I thought it would have been a great thing too. As I stated. I was suckered into it as around 800k were. I bought the game on my own, and after giving it a try. It sucks for me. By the way, I too hate WOW, just resub'ed. tonight in order to play with my children for awhile. You know, family bonding thing...??? So, I am nothing like you stated in your post. I merely said the Funcom had a great Marketing team that needed a raise for turning a crappy game into a great one, or at least make it look great... Please remember what you stated in your posts, esp. when trying to flame someone for not thinking / brainwashing like you.
There's actually a lot of games better than this. Sad too...i feel like i waisted 50 bucks
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
"Built like a console game? I have never seen a console game anywhere that played like this."
Well it is coming out for the Xbox, so it IS a console game as well as a PC game.
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LOL, can't make it out of tortage if you pains you to play for more than an hour. Let alone 20+ hours to escape that hell hole. 20 levels of turtorial? What joke. I don't need 20+ hours of play to learn the basics of a game. Don't need to wast 20+ hours and forces myself to see whats on the other side either. I have read what alot of people say about lack of content after lvl 20 and higher. And no, I'm no fan of WOW either.
I loved a lot of things about different MMO's EQ2, LotRO, WoW, SWG. After a while you need something different. EQ2, loved the community, SWG pretty loved it all - til the CU then NGE, WoW its becoming too much of a rep grind, LotRO, seems a bit slow combat wise to me.
There are good and bad things about each game, as with Conan. We'll have to wait and see how people take to it.
I agree. People for the most part seem to be basing the game on Tortage, which is great, but seems a bit long and I'm itching to get out of it.. My char is lvl 18. In my opinion, they should've made the leveling slower and have people leave the island at 10 instead of 20.
I gace this an entire evening and nada... zip,,, nothing.
Read through this entire thread. Aside from INSTANCING which virtually disappears after Tortage, there is not a single point of fact or data to say why this game is beaten by ANY, let alone so many other games.
There are blank, empty references AGAIN to the fact that every game since pong is better than Age of Conan, but they are completely devoid of any explination as to why this might be so, or why the poster isn't lying through their teeth (keyboard)
As was stated by a brilliant poster, of whom I have forgotten who said it, almost every one posting on these fora are speaking as the little tiny whiney population of Tortage NOT the expansive world of Hyboria. I spent the evening playing a few levels and doing about a dozen and a half missions in the mid 20's
I zoned/instanced once. Once. That is less than an evening in WoW.
I guess we have called the bluff of the people flaming this game. Is in my favorite? no. Asheron's Call is my favorite game as I have said in virtually every post for the last decade... and you can see my long drawn out explinations as to why Asheron's Call is a substantually better game than all the EQ-clones like WoW... but AoC is better than any other game I have played since... including WoW, EQ, EQ2, AC2, AO, TR, LotRO, DAoC, AO, CoV, CoH and likely a few others that were so bad I have forgotten them completely.
I guess the flamers have not a single real tid-bit of fact to back up their baseless, hollow emotional claims.
See you in Hyboria
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No, you haven't. Some people dont like it and as much as you might try to convince yourself that some of the complaints are not legitimate, plainly, they are. Im happy you like the game, but trying to imply that AoC has none of the problems it obviously has is an excercise in futility. While some people are here to rip the game apart, others have legitimate gripes, complaints and issues that are based in fact.
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HEADS WILL ROLL
Here's the thing. I pre-ordered Age of Conan. I paid my $5 to get into the early access... and now I'm ready to go to Best Buy and transfer my pre-order to something else. The truth is that Age of Conan needed to be drastically better than any other mmo on the market today. The bottom line is that it isn't.
The combat is supposed to be revolutionary. It isn't! Besides "fatalities", I don't think this game offers me anything that I can't get from somewhere else... and that somewhere else delivers a better product. I know I'll get blasted for saying this but until a game... any game delivers the kind of experience that World of Warcraft offers... then there simply isn't any reason for me to pay 14.99 on a lesser game!
I only read the first couple of pages of comments and about LotRO not having the kind of numbers that Age of Conan has. We'll see what kind of numbers AoC can substain after six months on the market. I can tell you that LotRO was a finished product from the moment that I released.... I can't say the same for AoC. There are just too many things about the game that make me shake my head and make me wonder... why did they do that? I dunno. Age of Conan is alright.... but it's not the king of mmo's... and it won't be.
I had lower expectations for AoC than most, but when I played it I was impressed with the combat system most of all. It seems to reward those that keep situational awareness more than most. For those that don't like, that's good and all, and I wish you luck in finding your game. But please, don't bash, because I won't bait for it either.
-- Brede
AOC is 5th on my list. In order for me. 1. WAR beta(yes i said beta), 2. DAOC, 3. EQ1, 4. LOTRO, 5. EQ2, oh crap i guess 6th. As far as released games go , it s DAOC for me. I haven t had a omg i love this game feeling since that game at all(until now witha certain beta)