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What will happen when 2009 gets here and Darkfall changes it's promise to 'summer 2009' ?

MaximumPvPMaximumPvP Member Posts: 30

2009 is only 5 short months away.

I am more then willing to bet that they will basically come up with the excuse that they need to make last minute fixes and want this game to be "perfect" and we've waiting this long, we can wait a few more months, blah blah blah and they will put this games launch off until "summer" or "Q2" of 2009.  (Ofcourse, we all know what will happen then as well - It'll change to Fall or "by end of 2009")

But let's just suppose for just one moment that I am correct.  I mean after all, we have 7 years of experience to base my prediction on. Based on the history, I have great odds of being correct with this prediction.

 

 

 

 

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  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559

    actully this is aventurine last chance there may be few straglers but meh

    o release dates can still be changed if playtesting has issues. but expect playtesting to at least start ...

  • MaximumPvPMaximumPvP Member Posts: 30

    Another poll.  Be honest now, especially if you are following this game and anxiously awaiting its release.

    Let's assume that next month we have a totally "kick ass" video released that shows in game gameplay and crafting and building and destruction of buildings and cities and it makes you really, really believe in this game and very excited for it...

    Then in October, they announce an open beta. But they also announce that despite their desires to not charge to play the game before it's released, they need funding to get this game distributed to lots of countries to open the game up to a much higher player base when it does launch. So they offer the opportunity to play test the game starting in November and to play it for 6 weeks for $25 (US).

  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535

    I think the best that can be hoped for is that some sort of beta will start this year.  Then, of course, release will be delayed because they will have actual players breaking the game.  Hell, release in summer 09 actually sounds reasonable, IMO. 

  • CatizoneCatizone Member Posts: 233

    Meh the poll would of been better with Dark and Light considering they made about 500 grand off their pre order to play pioneer scam...... and considering I was an idiotic pioneer. Good thing for chargebacks,

  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535
    Originally posted by Catizone


    Meh the poll would of been better with Dark and Light considering they made about 500 grand off their pre order to playpioneer thing...... and considering I was an idiotic pioneer. Good thing for chargebacks,



     

    Ha!  You are too slow, I got one of the free SOG accounts. 

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809

    Well personally, I would rather them just come up front and say that they are just going to BS through another year, because its getting very retarded how every year they do the same thing.

  • arctarusarctarus Member UncommonPosts: 2,581

    Ultimately for us mmo'ers sitting on the fence, the release of video next month ( about 6 days away, or more if its at the end of Aug) will mostly make or break this game for us. But to those that see this game as their only hope, as they are tired of the current quest-base,  raid-or-die,  pvp-or-die gene, i believe most of them will continue to try to defend this game.

     

    " Whats wrong with the DEV having problem with releasing the video when they are FINALLY having their deserve break???"

    "Whats the problem when they are focusing on the matter that counts, the gameplay rather than some stupid PR thing??? " etc......

     

    But if what Tasos have promises still dosen't come to pass.... i seriously urge all mmo'ers to be very careful and don't defend a game in blind....

     

    You may have a very good excuse for the reason that AVE is currently in the state that they are running  the game now and their PR, but your reason dosen't mean it's their's and doesn't mean its the truth....

     

    Just hope that i can help us gamers to really learn and be careful of where we put our money, ever since DNL till now,  AOC...

     

    Pls be prudent...........

     

    Defend with valid reason and to a respected company, and not some new and unknown just startup company.... Even Failcom fail..... be wary.....be very careful dude.....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,093

    Well, I suppose the current crop of DF defenders will vanish from the site.

    Then magically, we'll a whole new set users with low post counts appear suddenly defending/trashing the game and promising us that it will release 'sometime' in 2009. (or is the biggest piece of vaporware evah!)

    But seriously, there's no point to root against DF coming out or hoping for some sick reason that it doesn't live up to expectations just to try and prove your viewpoint is 'right.'

    While I've expressed huge doubts about DF and Aventurine, I really do want to see this game made and released according to the 'vision' (which is a dirty word these days, I know)

    I'd love to give the game a try, anything is better than the current crop of quest based grinders that I've been stuck in the past 4 years. (hey, I play AOC right now)

     

     

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  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465

    Well while we're randomly and arbitrarily guessing at things.  What would happen if aliens came and took over development of the game?

    GASP!

    This is me making fun of you for starting a topic that is baseless and very troll-like.

    Why not just chill out and wait oh... 5 months, like you said in your post.

    OR you could waste your time guessing wildly and getting yourself all pre-disapointed for some stupid reason.

     

    Your slanted opinions and sticky ideas are no match for common logic!

    all your opinion polls are based entirely off your point of view, I'm sorry that Darkfall murdered your mother / lover or something, and now you have to go travel the world seeking revenge and telling your tale to all who would listen. 

    You sir, are trying WAAY too hard >.>

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444

    I got a funny question.  Say it doesn't make 2008 but actually does come out in 2009.  With all the features promised nothing cut out, no real bad technical problems.  Do we still owe the supports an apology? Or is that agreement void by it not making 2008 release?

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  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Roin


    I got a funny question.  Say it doesn't make 2008 but actually does come out in 2009.  With all the features promised nothing cut out, no real bad technical problems.  Do we still owe the supports an apology? Or is that agreement void by it not making 2008 release?



     

    i think you owe everyone an opolgize if it starts playtestingthis year and it has what tasos ays it has.

    taso never said it was bug free. or it will be bug free. you can read that on the warcry dev quotes.

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by Theodgrim

    Originally posted by Catizone


    Meh the poll would of been better with Dark and Light considering they made about 500 grand off their pre order to playpioneer thing...... and considering I was an idiotic pioneer. Good thing for chargebacks,



     

    Ha!  You are too slow, I got one of the free SOG accounts. 




    I got one too, and the D&L debacle was made immensely more pleasurable for it.

    But if I had not got one, I would never of even considered paying a dime to NPCube before trying D&L, and I have the same position regarding Aventurine and Darkfall, not that I’m implying they would ever behave in a similar way.

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Roin


    I got a funny question.  Say it doesn't make 2008 but actually does come out in 2009.  With all the features promised nothing cut out, no real bad technical problems.  Do we still owe the supports an apology? Or is that agreement void by it not making 2008 release?

    No 2008, no apologies warranted. Tasos own words, as the fanbois like to point out, "within 2008".

     

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Roin


    I got a funny question.  Say it doesn't make 2008 but actually does come out in 2009.  With all the features promised nothing cut out, no real bad technical problems.  Do we still owe the supports an apology? Or is that agreement void by it not making 2008 release?

    No 2008, no apologies warranted. Tasos own words, as the fanbois like to point out, "within 2008".

     



     

    guess im not a fanboy i said playtesting within 2008 at least : )

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353
    Originally posted by Xxeon


    actully this is aventurine last chance there may be few straglers but meh
    o release dates can still be changed if playtesting has issues. but expect playtesting to at least start ...



     

    I can't believe I'm saying this!

    I actually "agree" with Xxeon on this.

    They cannot simply delay the game any further. At least the playtesting phase needs to begin, and people need to experience the world as it really exists. If they begin open beta, and find they need more time, then I feel that would be a warranted reason.

    I don't expect them to actually "release" by year's end. That would be nigh impossible anyway. I DO expect open beta to begin in 2008. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

     

  • melankomelanko Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by arctarus


    Ultimately for us mmo'ers sitting on the fence, the release of video next month ( about 6 days away, or more if its at the end of Aug) will mostly make or break this game for us. But to those that see this game as their only hope, as they are tired of the current quest-base,  raid-or-die,  pvp-or-die gene, i believe most of them will continue to try to defend this game.
     
    " Whats wrong with the DEV having problem with releasing the video when they are FINALLY having their deserve break???"

    "Whats the problem when they are focusing on the matter that counts, the gameplay rather than some stupid PR thing??? " etc......
     
    But if what Tasos have promises still dosen't come to pass.... i seriously urge all mmo'ers to be very careful and don't defend a game in blind....
     
    You may have a very good excuse for the reason that AVE is currently in the state that they are running  the game now and their PR, but your reason dosen't mean it's their's and doesn't mean its the truth....
     
    Just hope that i can help us gamers to really learn and be careful of where we put our money, ever since DNL till now,  AOC...
     
    Pls be prudent...........
     
    Defend with valid reason and to a respected company, and not some new and unknown just startup company.... Even Failcom fail..... be wary.....be very careful dude.....
     

     

    I agree. I made a post previously that, if this new video dosen't blow my socks off, I'm pretty much getting the rubber stamp of Vaporware and voiding this bitch.

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  • CatizoneCatizone Member Posts: 233

    I'll almost gurantee that they won't have a beta this year with real people from the public play testing. Even if it's a closed beta.

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by COORS

    Originally posted by Xxeon


    actully this is aventurine last chance there may be few straglers but meh
    o release dates can still be changed if playtesting has issues. but expect playtesting to at least start ...



     

    I can't believe I'm saying this!

    I actually "agree" with Xxeon on this.

    They cannot simply delay the game any further. At least the playtesting phase needs to begin, and people need to experience the world as it really exists. If they begin open beta, and find they need more time, then I feel that would be a warranted reason.

    I don't expect them to actually "release" by year's end. That would be nigh impossible anyway. I DO expect open beta to begin in 2008. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

     



     

    agreed : )

  • TheodgrimTheodgrim Member Posts: 535

    Bah!  Nothing much will happen even if DF doesnt release beta in 08.  Sure, some folks will get frustrated and leave, new fans will replace them.  The diehards will just say more time = better game, thank god they are not rushing it out like "gameX".  And the beat goes on. 

  • claudiofmclaudiofm Member Posts: 81
    Originally posted by MaximumPvP


    2009 is only 5 short months away.
    I am more then willing to bet that they will basically come up with the excuse that they need to make last minute fixes and want this game to be "perfect" and we've waiting this long, we can wait a few more months, blah blah blah and they will put this games launch off until "summer" or "Q2" of 2009.  (Ofcourse, we all know what will happen then as well - It'll change to Fall or "by end of 2009")
    But let's just suppose for just one moment that I am correct.  I mean after all, we have 7 years of experience to base my prediction on. Based on the history, I have great odds of being correct with this prediction.
     
     
     
     

     

    you lack 1



    -- What will happen with the troll and fanboy, when Darkfall, is launching a live Christmas in?
  • ddevddev Member Posts: 165
    Originally posted by claudiofm


     
    you lack 1



    -- What will happen with the troll and fanboy, when Darkfall, is launching a live Christmas in?



     

    Trolls, will be very very sad, because we have lived hapilly for 10 years now, and we will miss all the fun.

    Of course you realize that this is a VERY remote possibility rght?

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by ddev

    Originally posted by claudiofm


     
    you lack 1



    -- What will happen with the troll and fanboy, when Darkfall, is launching a live Christmas in?



     

    Trolls, will be very very sad, because we have lived hapilly for 10 years now, and we will miss all the fun.

    Of course you realize that this is a VERY remote possibility rght?



     

    Alot higher chance than you think : )

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287
    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by ddev

    Originally posted by claudiofm


     
    you lack 1



    -- What will happen with the troll and fanboy, when Darkfall, is launching a live Christmas in?



     

    Trolls, will be very very sad, because we have lived hapilly for 10 years now, and we will miss all the fun.

    Of course you realize that this is a VERY remote possibility rght?



     

    Alot higher chance than you think : )

     

      Based on what?  We base our view that the chances are slim on the fact that everything we have heard from them this year is WORD FOR WORD the same as each year that came before it.  As those years managed to not provide us a Darkfall...3rd grade logic tells us that this year will likely provide the very same results.

      I would  venture to say its not higher than We think, but potentially MUCH lower than YOU think.  Its been fairly obvious you just began watching this game this year.  For those among our number that have seen DF pass its prime in terms of hype and hope....we feel a bit more reserved about believing ANYTHING that comes rushing out of Tasos mouth.  He has a long history of producing little more than feces from that orifice.

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  • radlinradlin Member Posts: 266

     



    Originally posted by Xxeon

     



    Alot higher chance than you think : )

     







    Yep, about the same odds that Age of Mourning had and almost as good a chance as Dark and Light had at being the revolutionary mmo games that they promised to be as well.

     

    Oh, but Mourning and Dark and Light didn't even make half of the promises that Darkfall does.

    Darkfall will do this easily huh?

     

    I give Darkfall about a 10% chance of releasing as promised by end of 2008.

    (About a 25% chance of releasing by end of 2009)

     

    I give Darkfall about a 5% chance of actually being halfway stable at its launch.

     

    And I give Darkfall about a 2% chance of offering even half of its promised features at launch.

     

    And the chances of Darkfall launching and succeeding? Less then 1/10th of 1%.

     

    That's right, I say the odds of Darkfall releasing and actually succeeding in any way, shape, or form are about 1,000 to 1 against it. And trust me, that's giving Darkfall and Adventurine a LOT of credit for those odds to be that high.

     

    No sarcasm at all. That's actually where I'd place what I'd call realistic odds. Any odds much higher would make you delusional and perhaps lacking common sense.

     

  • XxeonXxeon Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Xxeon

    Originally posted by ddev

    Originally posted by claudiofm


     
    you lack 1



    -- What will happen with the troll and fanboy, when Darkfall, is launching a live Christmas in?



     

    Trolls, will be very very sad, because we have lived hapilly for 10 years now, and we will miss all the fun.

    Of course you realize that this is a VERY remote possibility rght?



     

    Alot higher chance than you think : )

     

      Based on what?  We base our view that the chances are slim on the fact that everything we have heard from them this year is WORD FOR WORD the same as each year that came before it.  As those years managed to not provide us a Darkfall...3rd grade logic tells us that this year will likely provide the very same results.

      I would  venture to say its not higher than We think, but potentially MUCH lower than YOU think.  Its been fairly obvious you just began watching this game this year.  For those among our number that have seen DF pass its prime in terms of hype and hope....we feel a bit more reserved about believing ANYTHING that comes rushing out of Tasos mouth.  He has a long history of producing little more than feces from that orifice.



     

    Post official release dates 2003 doesnt count which is the only other one. asin they went tog ame convention and are telling people it is releasing this year. nto saying it will depend son how playtsting goes but yea. you should understand by now you dont go to game conventions and Lie striaght to there faces i just dont see how anyone could get away with what he says if there lies. really i dont how long did mourning and stuff last before they got caught lieing? not very long.

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