There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
Both of you don't have enough information to say anything about Aventurine making the 2008 deadline or not. In fact Aventurine cannot be 100% sure themselves because they don't have the power to see into the future.
Tasos said they are on track on making it but hasn't made any guarantees it will. And really, so what ?
It will release when finished and free2try.
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
Both of you don't have enough information to say anything about Aventurine making the 2008 deadline or not. In fact Aventurine cannot be 100% sure themselves because they don't have the power to see into the future.
Tasos said they are on track on making it but hasn't made any guarantees it will. And really, so what ?
It will release when finished and free2try.
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
It will be free2try when finished? Is that official? If so, Adventurine.
There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
Ahh yes, those professional bots. Or perhaps the professional interns? Maybe the professionals they grabbed through an ad in the local paper? I can completely see how discarding a normal beta for these....professionals...is a great way to test your game.
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
You live in a very delusional world. What I find more amazing is that, given your avatar, it would appear that you SHOULD be more grounded in understanding how to spot a liar. I mean, after all Funcom has done...one might suspect you be a little more wise and a little less naive. Quite the contrary, it would seem that you are, instead, incapable of remembering anything past yesterday.
Tasos lies, its what he does. He isn't even very good at it, and he doesn't even really TRY to cover it up. The entire premise behind his lies relies on absolute fanboy-ism to keep it alive. Any manner of actual thought and reason works to render it completely dead. I understand that most of you followers are only so undeniably dense about what you believe because you are new to both the concept and the natural progression of this game and its development team. For everyone else, this is all a matter of "been there, done that, heard it all before, didn't even get a courtesy reach-around".
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
Ahh yes, those professional bots. Or perhaps the professional interns? Maybe the professionals they grabbed through an ad in the local paper? I can completely see how discarding a normal beta for these....professionals...is a great way to test your game.
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
You live in a very delusional world. What I find more amazing is that, given your avatar, it would appear that you SHOULD be more grounded in understanding how to spot a liar. I mean, after all Funcom has done...one might suspect you be a little more wise and a little less naive. Quite the contrary, it would seem that you are, instead, incapable of remembering anything past yesterday.
Tasos lies, its what he does. He isn't even very good at it, and he doesn't even really TRY to cover it up. The entire premise behind his lies relies on absolute fanboy-ism to keep it alive. Any manner of actual thought and reason works to render it completely dead. I understand that most of you followers are only so undeniably dense about what you believe because you are new to both the concept and the natural progression of this game and its development team. For everyone else, this is all a matter of "been there, done that, heard it all before, didn't even get a courtesy reach-around".
he doesnt try to cover it up because he probly isnt lieing. its ussly the liars that try to cover it up. which is true to be quite honest
it really doesnt matter what you say if hes telling the truth hes telling the truth if he isnt well aventurine will go out of biz
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
...
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
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I hope everyone following this game reads what Gishgeron just said. How can people defend an internal beta that is intensive enough that they don't need the public to help, and at the same time say there is too much work to spend time on a video? Can't people see that there is something fishy there?
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
...
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
...
I hope everyone following this game reads what Gishgeron just said. How can people defend an internal beta that is intensive enough that they don't need the public to help, and at the same time say there is too much work to spend time on a video? Can't people see that there is something fishy there?
Stuu how dare you use logic... I mean you should bow down to Tasos and fall in line with all the other people thinking he is the second coming. For shame!
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
I still see it as they are trying hard to convince us with these words: "We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing"
They could have simply stated they would have a video of in-game footage out next week, or shortly thereafter.... But nope, they harped on 100% in game, no scripting, no simulation,no post-processing, yada yada yada....
There's a video coming out, most probably next week, or shortly after. We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
I still see it as they are trying hard to convince us with these words: "We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing"
They could have simply stated they would have a video of in-game footage out next week, or shortly thereafter.... But nope, they harped on 100% in game, no scripting, no simulation,no post-processing, yada yada yada....
Well most of the update was useless info we didnt need to know ( TMI )
Has it taken you this long to realise that? They said, over and over that they do not care about PR, they just care about making the game. For someone advising others to think a little, you're surely not doing much of it.
Like i said earlier, you're one of the thousands who've never worked in the software development industry, so you've no concept of the development process.
Ok So your saying they can't be trusted to make a simple video, but they can be trusted to make a revolutionary game. Seems I've been doing a hell of a lot more thinking then you. You don't know me, and you are nothing to me but nameless poster X300012 on the net. So cut the elitist egotistical you know everything crap it just makes you look more like a Asshat.
it's not a service business yet, there are no customers. it's a development company, and they are - intelligently - putting all their resources into development. it's good business sense. hyping their game and producing too much of a buzz is not what they're going for -- they're not trying to mass-market their game -- this is what 90% of these retards trolling DF don't realise.
Tasos needs to learn to stop making promises. Why can’t he figure this out? Don’t do beta sign ups until you are ready for beta. Don’t say you are going to have a video out unless you have a video ready or the time to create one. Don’t say you are going to release a game by the end of the year when you don’t know it will ready by then. How many times can he make the same god damn mistake? He can’t be as stupid as he is making himself look.
I hope for their sake one of the new hires is someone who knows about PR. They really need someone who can tell Tasos to stfu and can deal with the public like a company that actually wants to have customers and make money someday.
why change anything? Tasos is playing it like a pro -- he's got everyone dancing around like puppets on strings waiting on every word. Deliberately vague information creates discussion and controversy, which keeps Darkfall in the spotlight, for next to no PR investment.
I think they're geniuses, the way they manage to get so many people inflamed about this or that, keeping the enthusiasm running high.
Whats vague about "The video will be out next month"? The month goes by no video. Oh ok Tasos is a liar. Perhaps you should maybe look up Vague.
Yes Tasos is playing some people like puppets, you might want to look in the mirror there a bit. As for me any enthusiasm for this game is rapidly turning to disgust and disbelief. Ya I know you wont mis me
Since when is that a bad word?? Doesnt that mean that he knows more then you? Anyway, Aventurine have never cared much for PR....wich you clarly can see and quickly understand there is no point in arguing about it either.
That leaves us with developers that are more interested in making thier game then to hype it. Wich for me is a good thing. many may think its a bad thing.
But Aventurine dont give a ¤#"% nor do the DF community what the others care. Ifthe game dont releases....shit happens.
A proof of life more than an update. But they are actually having an update once a month no, that is an increase if you look at the history. A couple of comments; "We take for granted sometimes that the Darkfall community is savvy enough to understand the limitations of independent game development and make allowances," I'm sorry Tasos, you take too much for granted. The MMO mob rather wants you to lie to them... "Nothing is scripted. We wanted to give you something that can put you in the true spirit of the game and this requires us to be actually playing the game like you would be, and not just taking you on a sightseeing tour or have a company make a marketing cinematic trailer for us." Hehehe...remember FC's "Siegevideo" anyone ?
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Elitist? Since when is that a bad word?? Doesnt that mean that he knows more then you? Anyway, Aventurine have never cared much for PR....wich you clarly can see and quickly understand there is no point in arguing about it either. That leaves us with developers that are more interested in making thier game then to hype it. Wich for me is a good thing. many may think its a bad thing. But Aventurine dont give a ¤#"% nor do the DF community what the others care. Ifthe game dont releases....shit happens.
No I used Elitist as someone that THINKS they are better then others. Much like Bigotry. Its doesn't prove they are.
You have a good point though if Aventurine doesn't care how people see them then I surely shouldn't. This is getting old just like it did last year, so I'll do what I did last year Step away till the end of the year, and check back then. Sadly I'm pretty sure the results will be the same.
Elitist? Since when is that a bad word?? Doesnt that mean that he knows more then you? Anyway, Aventurine have never cared much for PR....wich you clarly can see and quickly understand there is no point in arguing about it either. That leaves us with developers that are more interested in making thier game then to hype it. Wich for me is a good thing. many may think its a bad thing. But Aventurine dont give a ¤#"% nor do the DF community what the others care. Ifthe game dont releases....shit happens.
No I used Elitist as someone that THINKS they are better then others. Much like Bigotry. Its doesn't prove they are.
You have a good point though if Aventurine doesn't care how people see them then I surely shouldn't. This is getting old just like it did last year, so I'll do what I did last year Step away till the end of the year, and check back then. Sadly I'm pretty sure the results will be the same.
A proof of life more than an update. But they are actually having an update once a month no, that is an increase if you look at the history. A couple of comments; "We take for granted sometimes that the Darkfall community is savvy enough to understand the limitations of independent game development and make allowances," I'm sorry Tasos, you take too much for granted. The MMO mob rather wants you to lie to them... "Nothing is scripted. We wanted to give you something that can put you in the true spirit of the game and this requires us to be actually playing the game like you would be, and not just taking you on a sightseeing tour or have a company make a marketing cinematic trailer for us." Hehehe...remember FC's "Siegevideo" anyone ?
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
Which brings my to my final point:
Sorry Winter I think you fail reading a calender and being savvy enough to understand the limitations of indepentant game development.
--- And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. John Smedley, SOE
A proof of life more than an update. But they are actually having an update once a month no, that is an increase if you look at the history. A couple of comments; "We take for granted sometimes that the Darkfall community is savvy enough to understand the limitations of independent game development and make allowances," I'm sorry Tasos, you take too much for granted. The MMO mob rather wants you to lie to them... "Nothing is scripted. We wanted to give you something that can put you in the true spirit of the game and this requires us to be actually playing the game like you would be, and not just taking you on a sightseeing tour or have a company make a marketing cinematic trailer for us." Hehehe...remember FC's "Siegevideo" anyone ?
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
so I supposed we;ll be seeing this amazing video on the 31'st of August at 11:59 pm than eh?
Afte they've finally managed to put something decent together from their unfinished buggy game client.
Hate to break the news to you Mr savvy. but IT DOES NOT TAKE A WHOLE MONTH TO PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OF PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME.
unless of course you have one that is totally unfinished and buggy so that you need to constantly re record to get everything perectly right.
Im make movies as a hobby. And i can tell you this: It takes alot of time. Or even better, it takes as much time as you want it to take. Lets say Aventurine had show us a very poor made video a few weeks ago. Then we would have been hearing about that. And remember that they have no PR staff making the video. Its the programmer that take time from thier work to do it. And thay maybe only get a few hours work every week for the video?
A proof of life more than an update. But they are actually having an update once a month no, that is an increase if you look at the history. A couple of comments; "We take for granted sometimes that the Darkfall community is savvy enough to understand the limitations of independent game development and make allowances," I'm sorry Tasos, you take too much for granted. The MMO mob rather wants you to lie to them... "Nothing is scripted. We wanted to give you something that can put you in the true spirit of the game and this requires us to be actually playing the game like you would be, and not just taking you on a sightseeing tour or have a company make a marketing cinematic trailer for us." Hehehe...remember FC's "Siegevideo" anyone ?
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
so I supposed we;ll be seeing this amazing video on the 31'st of August at 11:59 pm than eh?
Afte they've finally managed to put something decent together from their unfinished buggy game client.
Hate to break the news to you Mr savvy. but IT DOES NOT TAKE A WHOLE MONTH TO PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OF PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME.
unless of course you have one that is totally unfinished and buggy so that you need to constantly re record to get everything perectly right.
You seem to have the ability to predict if a game will be unfinished and buggy with no evidence what-so-ever. Why didn't i see you flaming Age of Conan before launch? Wasn't your crystal ball working then? And go back to your other alt, i like the witty avatar.
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Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
Not really IMO. It also said that some things are delayed but it won't affect their 2008-release *happy* and that more people are joining the Aventurine team.
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
Both of you don't have enough information to say anything about Aventurine making the 2008 deadline or not. In fact Aventurine cannot be 100% sure themselves because they don't have the power to see into the future.
Tasos said they are on track on making it but hasn't made any guarantees it will. And really, so what ?
It will release when finished and free2try.
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
A beta?
I don't care if the release is this year or 5 years down the line, as long as they do it right.
Also...
for a video! Hoepfully we finally see what's been in the oven!
What nonsense, this game will be lucky to come in 2009, it WON"T be a 2008 title, anyone that knows anything about producing a game can definitively tell you that.
How so many posters can live in a fairy tale world taking everything said by the Darkfall staff as gospel is beyond me. Tasos has constantly lied to everyone. Come on, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
Maybe someday, something called Darkfall will hit the ether, but it most probably won't be in the form described by their website.
Both of you don't have enough information to say anything about Aventurine making the 2008 deadline or not. In fact Aventurine cannot be 100% sure themselves because they don't have the power to see into the future.
Tasos said they are on track on making it but hasn't made any guarantees it will. And really, so what ?
It will release when finished and free2try.
What else would you as a customer demand at this point ?
It will be free2try when finished? Is that official? If so,
Adventurine.
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
---
And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
Ahh yes, those professional bots. Or perhaps the professional interns? Maybe the professionals they grabbed through an ad in the local paper? I can completely see how discarding a normal beta for these....professionals...is a great way to test your game.
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
You live in a very delusional world. What I find more amazing is that, given your avatar, it would appear that you SHOULD be more grounded in understanding how to spot a liar. I mean, after all Funcom has done...one might suspect you be a little more wise and a little less naive. Quite the contrary, it would seem that you are, instead, incapable of remembering anything past yesterday.
Tasos lies, its what he does. He isn't even very good at it, and he doesn't even really TRY to cover it up. The entire premise behind his lies relies on absolute fanboy-ism to keep it alive. Any manner of actual thought and reason works to render it completely dead. I understand that most of you followers are only so undeniably dense about what you believe because you are new to both the concept and the natural progression of this game and its development team. For everyone else, this is all a matter of "been there, done that, heard it all before, didn't even get a courtesy reach-around".
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
Ahh yes, those professional bots. Or perhaps the professional interns? Maybe the professionals they grabbed through an ad in the local paper? I can completely see how discarding a normal beta for these....professionals...is a great way to test your game.
I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
You live in a very delusional world. What I find more amazing is that, given your avatar, it would appear that you SHOULD be more grounded in understanding how to spot a liar. I mean, after all Funcom has done...one might suspect you be a little more wise and a little less naive. Quite the contrary, it would seem that you are, instead, incapable of remembering anything past yesterday.
Tasos lies, its what he does. He isn't even very good at it, and he doesn't even really TRY to cover it up. The entire premise behind his lies relies on absolute fanboy-ism to keep it alive. Any manner of actual thought and reason works to render it completely dead. I understand that most of you followers are only so undeniably dense about what you believe because you are new to both the concept and the natural progression of this game and its development team. For everyone else, this is all a matter of "been there, done that, heard it all before, didn't even get a courtesy reach-around".
he doesnt try to cover it up because he probly isnt lieing. its ussly the liars that try to cover it up. which is true to be quite honest
it really doesnt matter what you say if hes telling the truth hes telling the truth if he isnt well aventurine will go out of biz
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
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I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
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I hope everyone following this game reads what Gishgeron just said. How can people defend an internal beta that is intensive enough that they don't need the public to help, and at the same time say there is too much work to spend time on a video? Can't people see that there is something fishy there?
A beta?
Aventurine lets the professionals do the boring and fustrating bughunting, leaving you to try out the finished game.
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I can also TOTALLY see how paying for all these "professionals" (sarcasm aside, if they really DID have pros...you can bet the cost is A TON higher than what I am alluding to here) is completely cost effective and possible for such a small, indie company who has been so broke and pressed for time that they could neither run a simple fraps while playing, or pay someone on the street 5 bucks to hold a &%$#ing camera while they did so.
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I hope everyone following this game reads what Gishgeron just said. How can people defend an internal beta that is intensive enough that they don't need the public to help, and at the same time say there is too much work to spend time on a video? Can't people see that there is something fishy there?
Stuu how dare you use logic... I mean you should bow down to Tasos and fall in line with all the other people thinking he is the second coming. For shame!
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
I still see it as they are trying hard to convince us with these words: "We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing"
They could have simply stated they would have a video of in-game footage out next week, or shortly thereafter.... But nope, they harped on 100% in game, no scripting, no simulation,no post-processing, yada yada yada....
Yay!! After only 3 months, we've managed to get from "a few weeks" to "most probably next week, or shortly after" (i.e. "maybe next week, maybe not").
Good to see they've admitted the other videos were not pure in-game video, and had scripting, simulation, and/or post-processing.
Otherwise, a completely empty update, except "we're upgrading our webservers".
I think it's funny that they seem to be trying hard to convince us that the footage is 100% in game, pure gameply, no phoney baloney stuff, etc.
actully there just telling us its not there not trying that hard
I still see it as they are trying hard to convince us with these words: "We’re talking about a long 100% in-game pure gameplay trailer with no scripting, no simulation, no post-processing"
They could have simply stated they would have a video of in-game footage out next week, or shortly thereafter.... But nope, they harped on 100% in game, no scripting, no simulation,no post-processing, yada yada yada....
Well most of the update was useless info we didnt need to know ( TMI )
I just can't wait to laugh at it....just like the other ones.
Ok So your saying they can't be trusted to make a simple video, but they can be trusted to make a revolutionary game. Seems I've been doing a hell of a lot more thinking then you. You don't know me, and you are nothing to me but nameless poster X300012 on the net. So cut the elitist egotistical you know everything crap it just makes you look more like a Asshat.
why change anything? Tasos is playing it like a pro -- he's got everyone dancing around like puppets on strings waiting on every word. Deliberately vague information creates discussion and controversy, which keeps Darkfall in the spotlight, for next to no PR investment.
I think they're geniuses, the way they manage to get so many people inflamed about this or that, keeping the enthusiasm running high.
Whats vague about "The video will be out next month"? The month goes by no video. Oh ok Tasos is a liar. Perhaps you should maybe look up Vague.
Yes Tasos is playing some people like puppets, you might want to look in the mirror there a bit. As for me any enthusiasm for this game is rapidly turning to disgust and disbelief. Ya I know you wont mis me
Elitist?
Since when is that a bad word?? Doesnt that mean that he knows more then you? Anyway, Aventurine have never cared much for PR....wich you clarly can see and quickly understand there is no point in arguing about it either.
That leaves us with developers that are more interested in making thier game then to hype it. Wich for me is a good thing. many may think its a bad thing.
But Aventurine dont give a ¤#"% nor do the DF community what the others care. Ifthe game dont releases....shit happens.
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
No I used Elitist as someone that THINKS they are better then others. Much like Bigotry. Its doesn't prove they are.
You have a good point though if Aventurine doesn't care how people see them then I surely shouldn't. This is getting old just like it did last year, so I'll do what I did last year Step away till the end of the year, and check back then. Sadly I'm pretty sure the results will be the same.
Till then, Peace all!
No I used Elitist as someone that THINKS they are better then others. Much like Bigotry. Its doesn't prove they are.
You have a good point though if Aventurine doesn't care how people see them then I surely shouldn't. This is getting old just like it did last year, so I'll do what I did last year Step away till the end of the year, and check back then. Sadly I'm pretty sure the results will be the same.
Till then, Peace all!
I tried that approach, for about half a decade.
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
Which brings my to my final point:
Sorry Winter I think you fail reading a calender and being savvy enough to understand the limitations of indepentant game development.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
so I supposed we;ll be seeing this amazing video on the 31'st of August at 11:59 pm than eh?
Afte they've finally managed to put something decent together from their unfinished buggy game client.
Hate to break the news to you Mr savvy. but IT DOES NOT TAKE A WHOLE MONTH TO PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OF PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME.
unless of course you have one that is totally unfinished and buggy so that you need to constantly re record to get everything perectly right.
Im make movies as a hobby. And i can tell you this: It takes alot of time. Or even better, it takes as much time as you want it to take. Lets say Aventurine had show us a very poor made video a few weeks ago. Then we would have been hearing about that. And remember that they have no PR staff making the video. Its the programmer that take time from thier work to do it. And thay maybe only get a few hours work every week for the video?
Sorry Xris375 you Fail. Tasos has already been lyng to us ie "the video will be out next month". Oh and Remember last Sept when they said beta would be "soon" ?
Let me see.
Tasos said in july he expected the video will be out next month. Could that mean august ?
Is august over yet?
Tasos said this week, the video might be out next week. Could that mean next week?
Is next week over yet ?
so I supposed we;ll be seeing this amazing video on the 31'st of August at 11:59 pm than eh?
Afte they've finally managed to put something decent together from their unfinished buggy game client.
Hate to break the news to you Mr savvy. but IT DOES NOT TAKE A WHOLE MONTH TO PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OF PEOPLE PLAYING A GAME.
unless of course you have one that is totally unfinished and buggy so that you need to constantly re record to get everything perectly right.
You seem to have the ability to predict if a game will be unfinished and buggy with no evidence what-so-ever. Why didn't i see you flaming Age of Conan before launch? Wasn't your crystal ball working then? And go back to your other alt, i like the witty avatar.
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