The thing is that all of you are simply basing your opinions on your gaming history and your personality.
Some liked it others don't. Don't attack the OP and others because they didn't enjoy. They simply look for something deeper in a game that WAR did not provide for them. For many, the game gave them exactly what they were looking for in a game. Me, personally, am in the middle and think that the games graphics and animation could use more tweaking. Gameplay was fun and carries unique aspects that WoW, EQ2, or any other games don't have.
Why should we trust you? Your opinion triumphs all? You were expecting to have a sci-fi MMORPG with lasers? Wanted sandbox?
Warhammer Online is quite simply the best MMORPG I have ever played, period. It had a perfect launch and the game is incredibly fun and rewarding. People like you make me sick.
Sorry I can't trust you. You are flat out wrong about customization.
Also I ran through every single RvR zone in every single tier and paring. You are wrong. Goto dragonwake go look at one of the huge castles and the soaring bridges. Then tell me the zones are small and uninspiring.
The thing is that all of you are simply basing your opinions on your gaming history and your personality. Some liked it others don't. Don't attack the OP and others because they didn't enjoy. They simply look for something deeper in a game that WAR did not provide for them. For many, the game gave them exactly what they were looking for in a game. Me, personally, am in the middle and think that the games graphics and animation could use more tweaking. Gameplay was fun and carries unique aspects that WoW, EQ2, or any other games don't have.
I totally agree with the neutrality of your position, but really...you know (or should) as well as I do that on these forums you get very little in constructive criticism and fair ratings. It's all subjective and most poeple respond in kind. The very fact of posting on an anonymous forum gives these threads 'life', or troll food, or flame-ready degradations.
I mean, i enjoy it all, it's funny to read and follow (when I have the time). Only those who are really serious about what they post and the ensuing replies (trolls, flames, thumbs up) are looking to get insulted. Those who get insulted by this post and reply negatively, I'll laugh at. Because it means nothing in the grand scheme of what I'll play, what my opinion will be, or who believes what I say.
It's a soap opera for gamers, and unfortunately, I'm addicted to watching it.
Based on the forum topic, "Don't waste your money <trust me>", I would say that Nikoz78's credibility is just undeniable, and knows that because he does not like the game, no one can, thank you for telling us how much we will not like it!
I'd like to point out a few things. I did not say I played for 15 min. I said I was tired of the art within 15 min. My computer is a gaming rig; a monster. This game did not even make it sweat. I don't play SWG anylonger. In fact, it's been a very long time now. I played Dark Age of Camelot for many, many years. DAoC is a way cooler game IMO. I love RvR, why else would I buy this game? And yes, I was just telling my wife that I am pissed at myself for wasting my cash, not at the company that made this title. By the way, I pre-ordered. I find game play to be the most important, but that does not mean I don't like an immersive enviornment. Lastly, to all the insulting kids on here: Don't be a keyboard warrior. Act the same as you would if we were in person and having a face-to-face conversation. Thank you. Goodbye.
You have contradicted your self. You said you like DAoC RvR. WAR RvR is DAoC RVR with improvements. While combat merchanism may be different, the RvR system is essentially the same. How much did you RvR in WAR did you do before you come to your conclusion? Tier 1, Tier 2, Keep siege,...
This have been said multiple times that the RvR zone getting bigger when you level up, you can do this very easily by compare the size of the Tier 1 RvR zone and the Tier 2 RvR zone, they are significantly different.
Haha, seriously? WAR RvR is like a gimped/dumbed down version of DAoC's RvR.
I have to say that I am one of the gamers that is very disappointed.
Art is subjective, but man, the game to me looks and feels like it was made for 8 year olds. I grew tired of it in 15 min much less can I imagine myself spending HOURS in this world. I understand that it's based on the Warhammer IP and this predates WOW by 20 years but I still don't like it. The art, in a word, sucks. The movement is VERY clunky and annoying. It's terrible. The character customization is a flat out JOKE. Not to mention the class choices left me unsatisfied. I found that there was not ONE SINGLE CLASS that I wanted to play. The way the zones are set up is especially uninspiring. Not only are they smallish, but there is only a tiny portion of it set aside for RvR. I just don't like the design as it feels like an afterthought; and it was, according to the developers (originally they planned to have instanced "scenario" battles only). Oh, and no player housing? No thanks. In fact, I'm kinda pissed I bought into the hype. Paul Barnett is a great personality and he hyped this game to the max. But it's just not fun to play. My 2 cents.
I can't argue with any of your points since I haven't played but I think most of what you stated thankfully are all issues that are directly related to taste you either like or you don't but why think if there is nothing game breaking about the game that no one should even "waste your money on it"?
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I guess to each their own. I love WAR because I'm a longtime table top fan. I think they've nailed the art style. PQs are lots of fun, and open RVR is some of the best PVP I've experienced in a MMOG.
Then again, I hated SWG and wished I hadn't bought a 3-month subscription hoping that laggy mess of a game would actually get good.
Please, have fun spending 10 hours a day running harvesters so you can afford a little moisture farm on Tatooine. I'll be busy burning down the Inevitable CIty.
Originally posted by neosurfeur Originally posted by Sailex Originally posted by Nikoz78
I have to say that I am one of the gamers that is very disappointed.
Art is subjective, but man, the game to me looks and feels like it was made for 8 year olds. I grew tired of it in 15 min much less can I imagine myself spending HOURS in this world. I understand that it's based on the Warhammer IP and this predates WOW by 20 years but I still don't like it. The art, in a word, sucks. The movement is VERY clunky and annoying. It's terrible. The character customization is a flat out JOKE. Not to mention the class choices left me unsatisfied. I found that there was not ONE SINGLE CLASS that I wanted to play. The way the zones are set up is especially uninspiring. Not only are they smallish, but there is only a tiny portion of it set aside for RvR. I just don't like the design as it feels like an afterthought; and it was, according to the developers (originally they planned to have instanced "scenario" battles only). Oh, and no player housing? No thanks. In fact, I'm kinda pissed I bought into the hype. Paul Barnett is a great personality and he hyped this game to the max. But it's just not fun to play. My 2 cents.
Bitter and clueless.
Coming from a current SWG subscriber too, no thanks I don't trust you to know anything about quality.
LOL there more fun in SWG than plaiyng WARHAMMER and we take only the gameplay side lol !
The game is looking better and more polished and I can't explain why other than today, after installing discs, it seems to have been improved but maybe i'm crazy.
Also this game is getting more and more fun the longer I play it. Tier 2 has been amazingly fun, and I liked the game based on Tier 1. The PvE(When solo) is just alright so far, but everything else has been very fun. I am not a big fan of solo PvE anyway though. I really can't wait till Tier 3, and then Tier 4. Having a blast.
Oh, and mix up the scenarios. They have all been excellent, and a very different experience with each one. It is a lot of fun learning them. Tier 2 elf pariing is a basic capture the flag, but as a Witch Hunter it is the most fun I have had in a competitive game in a while.
This is exactly how the AoC forums were at launch.
Someone post a NEGATIVE review of the game and suddenly 100 fanbois come and flame him for hours.
Then, a week or so later, more and more negative reviews come out.
Wait a second, this isn't just AoC, it's most of the crap games and forums that follow them. WAR is (OK), it isn't great, it isn't horrible. It's just there.
There is nothing inspiring about the game. There is nothing innovative about the game. Mythic took the WoW formula and just put a different skin to it. That's all. WAR is a very basic, easy, and typical MMO.
If you like WoW then WAR isn't going to be that bad to you. If you like UO or Pre-CU SWG then WAR is going to be horrible to you.
As I said above, WAR offers nothing new to the genre. It is a retread of all the grind-it-out and basic gameplay that we have grown accustomed to with WoW, AoC, and so many others. If you're into that you will be glad you bought it. If you want and expect more from the genre, this game will be a waste of your time.
This is exactly how the AoC forums were at launch. Someone post a NEGATIVE review of the game and suddenly 100 fanbois come and flame him for hours. Then, a week or so later, more and more negative reviews come out. Wait a second, this isn't just AoC, it's most of the crap games and forums that follow them. WAR is (OK), it isn't great, it isn't horrible. It's just there. There is nothing inspiring about the game. There is nothing innovative about the game. Mythic took the WoW formula and just put a different skin to it. That's all. WAR is a very basic, easy, and typical MMO. If you like WoW then WAR isn't going to be that bad to you. If you like UO or Pre-CU SWG then WAR is going to be horrible to you. As I said above, WAR offers nothing new to the genre. It is a retread of all the grind-it-out and basic gameplay that we have grown accustomed to with WoW, AoC, and so many others. If you're into that you will be glad you bought it. If you want and expect more from the genre, this game will be a waste of your time.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
This is exactly how the AoC forums were at launch. Someone post a NEGATIVE review of the game and suddenly 100 fanbois come and flame him for hours. Then, a week or so later, more and more negative reviews come out. Wait a second, this isn't just AoC, it's most of the crap games and forums that follow them. WAR is (OK), it isn't great, it isn't horrible. It's just there. There is nothing inspiring about the game. There is nothing innovative about the game. Mythic took the WoW formula and just put a different skin to it. That's all. WAR is a very basic, easy, and typical MMO. If you like WoW then WAR isn't going to be that bad to you. If you like UO or Pre-CU SWG then WAR is going to be horrible to you. As I said above, WAR offers nothing new to the genre. It is a retread of all the grind-it-out and basic gameplay that we have grown accustomed to with WoW, AoC, and so many others. If you're into that you will be glad you bought it. If you want and expect more from the genre, this game will be a waste of your time.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
My post said nothing about WAR being unfinished. I just stated fact -- WAR offers no innovation to the genre.
For people who expect new and exciting things to do in the MMO genre this game isn't going to give it to them.
At least we can say that AoC offered a new form of combat. It isn't great, but it's new. WAR is just more of the same that WoW perfected.
Yes WAR appears to run very well so far, but it certainly is just more of the same.
I have to say that I am one of the gamers that is very disappointed.
Art is subjective, but man, the game to me looks and feels like it was made for 8 year olds. I grew tired of it in 15 min much less can I imagine myself spending HOURS in this world. I understand that it's based on the Warhammer IP and this predates WOW by 20 years but I still don't like it. The art, in a word, sucks. The movement is VERY clunky and annoying. It's terrible. The character customization is a flat out JOKE. Not to mention the class choices left me unsatisfied. I found that there was not ONE SINGLE CLASS that I wanted to play. The way the zones are set up is especially uninspiring. Not only are they smallish, but there is only a tiny portion of it set aside for RvR. I just don't like the design as it feels like an afterthought; and it was, according to the developers (originally they planned to have instanced "scenario" battles only). Oh, and no player housing? No thanks. In fact, I'm kinda pissed I bought into the hype. Paul Barnett is a great personality and he hyped this game to the max. But it's just not fun to play. My 2 cents.
this is what i was afraid of
i will keep my 2 cents, err.. 50 dollars.. and wait to see what happens
.. still on the sidelines waiting for something to happen
Better yet- send me that $50 and I'll turn it into $500 for you (trust me).
That seemed to be a compelling enough arguement for you when the OP made it.
This is exactly how the AoC forums were at launch. Someone post a NEGATIVE review of the game and suddenly 100 fanbois come and flame him for hours. Then, a week or so later, more and more negative reviews come out. Wait a second, this isn't just AoC, it's most of the crap games and forums that follow them. WAR is (OK), it isn't great, it isn't horrible. It's just there. There is nothing inspiring about the game. There is nothing innovative about the game. Mythic took the WoW formula and just put a different skin to it. That's all. WAR is a very basic, easy, and typical MMO. If you like WoW then WAR isn't going to be that bad to you. If you like UO or Pre-CU SWG then WAR is going to be horrible to you. As I said above, WAR offers nothing new to the genre. It is a retread of all the grind-it-out and basic gameplay that we have grown accustomed to with WoW, AoC, and so many others. If you're into that you will be glad you bought it. If you want and expect more from the genre, this game will be a waste of your time.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
I'm not sure I agree, I see some similarities to DAOC. However, I also see a lot of similarities to WOW in it. In daoc you weren't nearly as led around as I felt in WAR. On top of that one of the most important aspects to DAOC's flare was the frontier regions, does WAR offer anything like this?
They borrowed their trademark RvR system for WAR, yet even there, there seems to be a big difference from the feel DAOC had due to it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The game has great gameplay. I personally think the game looks fantastic. Obviously it's subjective, but I know I will definitely be spending hours playing this game
Regardless of the OP's post I am seeing more negativity towards WAR than I thought I would see......I remember hearing in beta how this game was so much better than anything on the planet and how the RVR alone would draw in millions of players (Though it never was that successful in DAoC)........While so many are just writing off each and everyone of these guys eventually you have to take notice that alot of people are not all that thrilled with this game.......
Regardless of the OP's post I am seeing more negativity towards WAR than I thought I would see......I remember hearing in beta how this game was so much better than anything on the planet and how the RVR alone would draw in millions of players (Though it never was that successful in DAoC)........While so many are just writing off each and everyone of these guys eventually you have to take notice that alot of people are not all that thrilled with this game.......
I think this happens when games are hyped when they are still being made. I agree I don't believe it to be the best MMO on the market, yet still adictive and fun. I believe after a few patches to help things along it will be closer to that mythical view we all held.
Did someone actually just suggest player housing for Warhammer?
If a Chosen, a twisted mutated fiend of a person hellbent on genocide and anarchy spends a significant portion of his day rearranging furniture in his house, I will die more then a little inside.
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The thing is that all of you are simply basing your opinions on your gaming history and your personality.
Some liked it others don't. Don't attack the OP and others because they didn't enjoy. They simply look for something deeper in a game that WAR did not provide for them. For many, the game gave them exactly what they were looking for in a game. Me, personally, am in the middle and think that the games graphics and animation could use more tweaking. Gameplay was fun and carries unique aspects that WoW, EQ2, or any other games don't have.
TLDR.
Why should we trust you? Your opinion triumphs all? You were expecting to have a sci-fi MMORPG with lasers? Wanted sandbox?
Warhammer Online is quite simply the best MMORPG I have ever played, period. It had a perfect launch and the game is incredibly fun and rewarding. People like you make me sick.
Once again, he was expecting PLAYER HOUSING in War out of all MMO's?!?
That boggles my mind, lol. This isn't LOTRO, EQII, SWG or w/e that has it.
If there was actual player housing in the game; that would totally ruin it imo.
Sorry I can't trust you. You are flat out wrong about customization.
Also I ran through every single RvR zone in every single tier and paring. You are wrong. Goto dragonwake go look at one of the huge castles and the soaring bridges. Then tell me the zones are small and uninspiring.
I totally agree with the neutrality of your position, but really...you know (or should) as well as I do that on these forums you get very little in constructive criticism and fair ratings. It's all subjective and most poeple respond in kind. The very fact of posting on an anonymous forum gives these threads 'life', or troll food, or flame-ready degradations.
I mean, i enjoy it all, it's funny to read and follow (when I have the time). Only those who are really serious about what they post and the ensuing replies (trolls, flames, thumbs up) are looking to get insulted. Those who get insulted by this post and reply negatively, I'll laugh at. Because it means nothing in the grand scheme of what I'll play, what my opinion will be, or who believes what I say.
It's a soap opera for gamers, and unfortunately, I'm addicted to watching it.
Nuff said. Unfortunately, you're right.
Based on the forum topic, "Don't waste your money <trust me>", I would say that Nikoz78's credibility is just undeniable, and knows that because he does not like the game, no one can, thank you for telling us how much we will not like it!
You have contradicted your self. You said you like DAoC RvR. WAR RvR is DAoC RVR with improvements. While combat merchanism may be different, the RvR system is essentially the same. How much did you RvR in WAR did you do before you come to your conclusion? Tier 1, Tier 2, Keep siege,...
This have been said multiple times that the RvR zone getting bigger when you level up, you can do this very easily by compare the size of the Tier 1 RvR zone and the Tier 2 RvR zone, they are significantly different.
Haha, seriously? WAR RvR is like a gimped/dumbed down version of DAoC's RvR.
I can't argue with any of your points since I haven't played but I think most of what you stated thankfully are all issues that are directly related to taste you either like or you don't but why think if there is nothing game breaking about the game that no one should even "waste your money on it"?
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
yeah, it's just another WoW, oh well gonna play it anyway, gotta get back into MMOs
I guess to each their own. I love WAR because I'm a longtime table top fan. I think they've nailed the art style. PQs are lots of fun, and open RVR is some of the best PVP I've experienced in a MMOG.
Then again, I hated SWG and wished I hadn't bought a 3-month subscription hoping that laggy mess of a game would actually get good.
Please, have fun spending 10 hours a day running harvesters so you can afford a little moisture farm on Tatooine. I'll be busy burning down the Inevitable CIty.
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Bitter and clueless.
Coming from a current SWG subscriber too, no thanks I don't trust you to know anything about quality.
LOL there more fun in SWG than plaiyng WARHAMMER and we take only the gameplay side lol !
Huh? Engrish do you speak it?
Fine with us. More room for those of us that enjoy it. Way to go to show you fully reviewed the product before alerting the public.
Fine with us. More room for those of us that enjoy it. Way to go to show you fully reviewed the product before alerting the public.
I believe he was refering to the art style of the game, and not the game it self.
The game is looking better and more polished and I can't explain why other than today, after installing discs, it seems to have been improved but maybe i'm crazy.
Also this game is getting more and more fun the longer I play it. Tier 2 has been amazingly fun, and I liked the game based on Tier 1. The PvE(When solo) is just alright so far, but everything else has been very fun. I am not a big fan of solo PvE anyway though. I really can't wait till Tier 3, and then Tier 4. Having a blast.
Oh, and mix up the scenarios. They have all been excellent, and a very different experience with each one. It is a lot of fun learning them. Tier 2 elf pariing is a basic capture the flag, but as a Witch Hunter it is the most fun I have had in a competitive game in a while.
This is exactly how the AoC forums were at launch.
Someone post a NEGATIVE review of the game and suddenly 100 fanbois come and flame him for hours.
Then, a week or so later, more and more negative reviews come out.
Wait a second, this isn't just AoC, it's most of the crap games and forums that follow them. WAR is (OK), it isn't great, it isn't horrible. It's just there.
There is nothing inspiring about the game. There is nothing innovative about the game. Mythic took the WoW formula and just put a different skin to it. That's all. WAR is a very basic, easy, and typical MMO.
If you like WoW then WAR isn't going to be that bad to you. If you like UO or Pre-CU SWG then WAR is going to be horrible to you.
As I said above, WAR offers nothing new to the genre. It is a retread of all the grind-it-out and basic gameplay that we have grown accustomed to with WoW, AoC, and so many others. If you're into that you will be glad you bought it. If you want and expect more from the genre, this game will be a waste of your time.
Tecmo Bowl.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
My post said nothing about WAR being unfinished. I just stated fact -- WAR offers no innovation to the genre.
For people who expect new and exciting things to do in the MMO genre this game isn't going to give it to them.
At least we can say that AoC offered a new form of combat. It isn't great, but it's new. WAR is just more of the same that WoW perfected.
Yes WAR appears to run very well so far, but it certainly is just more of the same.
Tecmo Bowl.
this is what i was afraid of
i will keep my 2 cents, err.. 50 dollars.. and wait to see what happens
.. still on the sidelines waiting for something to happen
Better yet- send me that $50 and I'll turn it into $500 for you (trust me).
That seemed to be a compelling enough arguement for you when the OP made it.
WAR is more like DaOC than WoW by a long shot. It is nothing like the unfinished AoC. It is a much more complete and polished game. Positive reviews will start coming out, and not negative. This game, unlike AoC, actually gets better the farther you level.
All boards here at launch are like this. If you like DaOC, WoW, RvR, or fun competitive combat than youw ill like WAR. NO IT IS NOT A SANDBOX. If you are a sandbox junkie then it is not for you.
I'm not sure I agree, I see some similarities to DAOC. However, I also see a lot of similarities to WOW in it. In daoc you weren't nearly as led around as I felt in WAR. On top of that one of the most important aspects to DAOC's flare was the frontier regions, does WAR offer anything like this?
They borrowed their trademark RvR system for WAR, yet even there, there seems to be a big difference from the feel DAOC had due to it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The game has great gameplay. I personally think the game looks fantastic. Obviously it's subjective, but I know I will definitely be spending hours playing this game
Regardless of the OP's post I am seeing more negativity towards WAR than I thought I would see......I remember hearing in beta how this game was so much better than anything on the planet and how the RVR alone would draw in millions of players (Though it never was that successful in DAoC)........While so many are just writing off each and everyone of these guys eventually you have to take notice that alot of people are not all that thrilled with this game.......
I think this happens when games are hyped when they are still being made. I agree I don't believe it to be the best MMO on the market, yet still adictive and fun. I believe after a few patches to help things along it will be closer to that mythical view we all held.
Did someone actually just suggest player housing for Warhammer?
If a Chosen, a twisted mutated fiend of a person hellbent on genocide and anarchy spends a significant portion of his day rearranging furniture in his house, I will die more then a little inside.
OP, I dont trust you as far as I can throw you..
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