I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
Oh, ok then, at least you can tell the difference, like so many poster here cannot, who treat AOC as if it was DnL.
Solution is simple, Vote with your wallet.
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Please save your money and don't pay for beta AGAIN. They fooled us once with lies and hype, for your own sake, don't let it happen again. Have you forgotten already? Don't believe the crap you read on these forums. You really think they are going to turn around the AoC nightmare in less than 6 months? Won't happen, trust me. Sure they will make small changes every couple of weeks but under the surface it's still the same boring game that people learned to hate. I would wait for at least a year before trying it again. New Game Director is a good thing. But seriously.. you think Craig can change everything in a few weeks? FC still has the same incompetent game designers and coders and no amount of motivation and good leadership will make them do a miracle patch. Sure, management is important and CAN make a difference but it takes TIME. Lots of it. You need to hire and fire, make organizational changes, etc. Craig said some good words about the future but that's just what they are, words. I could quit my job and become FC's new Game Director and write 10 pages about how we are going to change this and implement that, but it doesn't mean shit. Don't listen to their words, wait for the results. Also I recommend you do NOT listen to guys like "CobraSolidus" from Norway (!) who came out of blue the same time FunCom stock hit rock bottom, and writes many posts every day telling how AWESOME the game is or is going to be. I mean, are people blind? Don't you see that clearly this guy is affiliated with FC in some way and is trying to get more people to finance their MMO disaster? And I'm sure he's not the only FC employee visiting these forums regularly. Personally I will never give FC another cent of my money, not even if they made the MMO of my dreams. It's about a principle. We need to send a message to developers who lie and deliver incomplete MMO's. I'm looking forward to seeing FC go down in flames. I just feel bad for all the hard working low level employees who were betrayed by the management and had no part in this fiasco.
You must be unaware of the new patch 3.0 (On test live allready) and the pcoming crafting changes.
Other than that, seems you take to many things personally about the launch of the game, if 50$ was too much of a gamble for you to take, i suggest you wait 6 months before buying any MMO.
It is not the $50, or whatever amount that was paid. It was that we were not delivered a product as advertised, and, further, that we were lied to again and again. Waiting 6 months for any product to deliver what is advertised is not a good way to do buisiness, and I for one am proud to be a part of an MMO community that stood up and voted with our wallets, as well as legitimate vocal criticisms, of a flawed product. Sure, we may be out $50, but one corrupt Game Director is out of a job and a company that has lied since day one is paying enourmously for it's sins. We, as consumers, are the winners here, and it is up to Funcom to dust itself off and gather what is left to fix it's tarnished reputation.
Releasing patches for a broken game is hardly all that is needed. No, to make things right Funcom has to not only cease it's practice of misleading consumers, it also has to find a way to make things right. Firing Gaute was certainly a step in the right direction, but hardly a complete fix, either. Empty servers don't lie: the community is sick and tired of Funcom and its lies. Lets be real here, however: very few of the people, myself included, that Funcom ripped off would ever consider giving them one cent ever again. GAME OVER.
It is no accident that AO is a FTP game. Funcom=FAIL.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
We all know that funcom promised the world and delivered the thimble with sand in it. The game was not released as advertised. They then engaged in brutal forum measures to silence the dissenters thinking that people that visited the forums migth actually not notice that the game sucked. They are getting what they deserved.
Whens the last time a game developer pulled the crap they pulled and was then run out of the industry?
Wonder where Gaute is hiding today? Probably sipping Mai Tais on the money he managed to steal from people by hyping what he HAD TO KNOW was subpar software.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
One of my problems with AoC is the low population of zones. I mean, not low population servers but the fact that they fit very few people in every instance of the same zone. This goes against inmersion and is really a problem when creating groups. I never created a group in AoC with needing to deal with the instances.
One of my problems with AoC is the low population of zones. I mean, not low population servers but the fact that they fit very few people in every instance of the same zone. This goes against inmersion and is really a problem when creating groups. I never created a group in AoC with needing to deal with the instances.
You don't have to worry about that anymore, there aren't enough people to create multiple instances in any zone I've visted for the last month. I have to say, traversing the instances was in no way complicated. Though it would have been nice if they had a woking group teleport option, it was there but didn't work.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
No if the same thing happened to MMO's that happened to DnL you would have companies too afraid to make MMO's then we'd be in the same situation where consoles are currently. Nothing but sequals or movie tie ins. The reason that happens is because it's too risky to try and make original IP's these days.
Please save your money and don't pay for beta AGAIN. They fooled us once with lies and hype, for your own sake, don't let it happen again. Have you forgotten already?
Personally I will never give FC another cent of my money, not even if they made the MMO of my dreams. It's about a principle. We need to send a message to developers who lie and deliver incomplete MMO's.
Actually they are getting more than a cent from you right now...How? because you pay your monthly bill to your Internet Provider and your using that money spent to come here to give your boohoo speech.
Please save your money and don't pay for beta AGAIN. They fooled us once with lies and hype, for your own sake, don't let it happen again. Have you forgotten already? ....
The best comment is:
"i have no idea what you're talking about"
Maybe i started to play too late, but i'm not sure what this all about. I'm playing for 2+ months now and i can't even remember a single bug i experienced.
Lag spikes happen sometimes, but it doesn't bother me too much and this is it - can't rembember anything else.
And speaking about people who "work for FC" now you mister and many others here realy sound like they're hired by FunCom's competition to decrease AOC rating, otherwise WHAT THE HELL are you all doing here spaming your critique every day that doesn't have any reasonable arguments except " it's bad, everyone knows it is!"
So ok, everyone heard the story about how some ppl "won't ever try it again", "won't spend a cent for it" Oh...and why there's no " i won't post to AOC forum again"? Now this is strange...
Please save your money and don't pay for beta AGAIN. They fooled us once with lies and hype, for your own sake, don't let it happen again. Have you forgotten already? ....
The best comment is:
"i have no idea what you're talking about"
Maybe i started to play too late, but i'm not sure what this all about. I'm playing for 2+ months now and i can't even remember a single bug i experienced.
Lag spikes happen sometimes, but it doesn't bother me too much and this is it - can't rembember anything else.
And speaking about people who "work for FC" now you mister and many others here realy sound like they're hired by FunCom's competition to decrease AOC rating, otherwise WHAT THE HELL are you all doing here spaming your critique every day that doesn't have any reasonable arguments except " it's bad, everyone knows it is!"
So ok, everyone heard the story about how some ppl "won't ever try it again", "won't spend a cent for it" Oh...and why there's no " i won't post to AOC forum again"? Now this is strange...
Only funcom can make people so angry that they go on JIHADS against the company, here in the Forums.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Well according to some in this forum I am a troll because left WAR to play AoC. I played AoC before WAR also, it's just that I can't take 3 months of lagg and crashing in WAR before it gets better. WAR gatta sort out their stuff before I come back. The game is simply not good enough for me to put up with the problems.
I'm thinking about retrying AoC. I have gotten so bored of WoW atm that I can't even think about getting another expansion that will be the same shit again. War I played in beta and it was all but entertaining me.
AoC had some really good elements... but I got a little bothered about nothing really obvious to do at cap but now it has had some time to mature just like AO did so it might be worth a second try. ^^
Originally posted by CobraSolidus Well according to some in this forum I am a troll because left WAR to play AoC. I played AoC before WAR also, it's just that I can't take 3 months of lagg and crashing in WAR before it gets better. WAR gatta sort out their stuff before I come back. The game is simply not good enough for me to put up with the problems. /troll end
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
Well according to some in this forum I am a troll because left WAR to play AoC. I played AoC before WAR also, it's just that I can't take 3 months of lagg and crashing in WAR before it gets better. WAR gatta sort out their stuff before I come back. The game is simply not good enough for me to put up with the problems.
/troll end
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
Possible and thanks for not nailing me because I was unfortunate enough to have problems. Some of these WARboys just really loose it if I mention that I had problems.
Well according to some in this forum I am a troll because left WAR to play AoC. I played AoC before WAR also, it's just that I can't take 3 months of lagg and crashing in WAR before it gets better. WAR gatta sort out their stuff before I come back. The game is simply not good enough for me to put up with the problems.
/troll end
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
From what I heard from friends who are still playing both it's more like AoC had server side problems while WAR had alot of client side errors. Which is worse I don't know
are you a fortune teller or something? from what i see conan is actually original while warhammer feels like wow. why cant people make up there own minds in what they play? they want to play to have fun let them. if they dont its no big deal they will just cancel again. let people do with there money as they will.
are you a fortune teller or something? from what i see conan is actually original while warhammer feels like wow. why cant people make up there own minds in what they play? they want to play to have fun let them. if they dont its no big deal they will just cancel again. let people do with there money as they will.
That's probably the best post I've seen on these forums, "Why can't people make up their own minds?" Granted, researching before you buy is a good thing but keep in mind that people who are actually enjoying a game are probably playing it and not wasting time here.
are you a fortune teller or something? from what i see conan is actually original while warhammer feels like wow. why cant people make up there own minds in what they play? they want to play to have fun let them. if they dont its no big deal they will just cancel again. let people do with there money as they will.
That's probably the best post I've seen on these forums, "Why can't people make up their own minds?" Granted, researching before you buy is a good thing but keep in mind that people who are actually enjoying a game are probably playing it and not wasting time here.
I agree with people need to make up their own minds, I do not agree with things like "those who are enjoying it are not waisting time here" cause that is wrong, it's like I've seen many times, people totaly forget there is more then just playing games, many people work and use internet while they work, gamers will often use internet to go to forums or seek info upon games, not every person is able to play his or her favorite game 24/7
And like i said before to stay on topic I aint comming back but I have hardly seen reasons posted I could identify with the complaints, like with most MMORPG I have played I read more about bugs or issue's with a game then I encounter them myself. My reasons have to do with my playstyle and it simply does not fit within the AoC world, I am a explorer and AoC didn't offer me anything to explore as everything is guided to where you have to go, this goes from getting resources to getting quest everything is handhold which to me does not fit my playstyle as that is the only reason I left it.
If i was into pvp more I might consider the game again but I aint a pvp'r but am more of a MMORPG player and as I mentioned many times before pvp in MMORPG are simply far to slow for my taste yes even AoC even if it's much faster then most MMORPG it still doesn't give me that thrill I get from the more PVP oriented games like CoD/UT and the like. Also been disappointed by the first person view like most MMORPG they choose the "Stair to death approach" instead of seeing your weapons or limbs when in FP view.
WHAT THE HELL are you all doing here spaming your critique every day that doesn't have any reasonable arguments except " it's bad, everyone knows it is!"
The reason it seems that people are saying "its bad, everyone knows it is" rather than posting long detailed rants explaining why its bad is because we all posted those rants MONTHS ago before you showed up. Most of us don't feel like retyping ten pages of complaints about a game we don't even play and its not worth the effort when the majority of people here have already read everything we have posted before.
No - Im never re-subing AOC. It has nothing to do with how god or bad the game will be at some stage. It has to do with the fact that Funcom broke certain principles that I feel (specially after the launch of AOC) should never be broken.
You can all say that WAR is WOW2. But what you can not say is that WAR respected their BETA testers. They respeced their custimors by actually allowing them to know what they were buying. Thats why I will give WAR every chance to improve cause its not perfect. I did not expect that with WAR. And I did not expect that with AOC. But I still expected Funcom to be honest about the state of the game they released. They were not.
So no. AOC is something I will never consider again. And neither is buying any product from FUncom ever again.
Ok, looks like i was too optimistic. I just read about upcoming changes (though i didn't find official note yet) and if they gonna simplify combat system, like removing 6 long combos and increase armor effect by a lot (vs player skill) i'll seriously condider leaving AOC. Actualy - the day i see all combos are 2 keys long or instant and who has more expensive armor=wins - AOC will become another stupid "clicker" like WOW, WO and others for me so i'll definately quit.
Making combat more WOW like is the worst idea AOC developers could come across. Without it's specific features - AOC won't be able to compete with WOW/WO and others. At least many more mature players will leave and kiddies will go back to WOW. How sad.
Ok, looks like i was too optimistic. I just read about upcoming changes (though i didn't find official note yet) and if they gonna simplify combat system, like removing 6 long combos and increase armor effect by a lot (vs player skill) i'll seriously condider leaving AOC. Actualy - the day i see all combos are 2 keys long or instant and who has more expensive armor=wins - AOC will become another stupid "clicker" like WOW, WO and others for me so i'll definately quit. Making combat more WOW like is the worst idea AOC developers could come across. Without it's specific features - AOC won't be able to compete with WOW/WO and others. At least many more mature players will leave and kiddies will go back to WOW. How sad.
No, you've largely misunderstood the upcoming changes.
Read thispost if you want to get the full lowdown on the latest patch 3.0. In particular, the changes that relate to your concerns are as follows:
• For each attack in the combo chain that you do without a valid target, your end damage (on the combo finisher) is reduced 15% per miss.
• You can now only receive the benefit from Momentum (double-tap forward) and Sidestep (double-tap sideways) once every 6 seconds.
• Added a 6 second internal cooldown to the double-tap backwards Evasion buff.
• The double-tap backwards evasion buff now increases evade chance by 25% (down from 50%).
In other words, they are not making combat "simpler" per se, rather they're toning down the value of the hugely unrealistic 'kiting' tactic in melee combat whereby a fighter rushes/jumps around into and out of melee range (and is incredibly hard to hit because of massive Evasion buffs from leaping), only swooping in for the final finishing strike of a combo yet still dealing the full damage for the whole combo.
Regarding armour becoming more important, the new Director's address does suggest that this will be the case in future updates. He rightly pointed out that currently there's little progression in the power level of most gear between low and high level, such that it's quite common to be wearing equipment that you've had for the last ten or twenty levels which is still as or more useful as/than anything else you find. How heavily this will impact on PVP remains to be seen, but whatever happens it will still be some way off. Doubtless it will result in less naked PvP (except perhaps amongst Dark Desires members).
Please save your money and don't pay for beta AGAIN. They fooled us once with lies and hype, for your own sake, don't let it happen again. Have you forgotten already? Don't believe the crap you read on these forums. You really think they are going to turn around the AoC nightmare in less than 6 months? Won't happen, trust me. Sure they will make small changes every couple of weeks but under the surface it's still the same boring game that people learned to hate. I would wait for at least a year before trying it again. New Game Director is a good thing. But seriously.. you think Craig can change everything in a few weeks? FC still has the same incompetent game designers and coders and no amount of motivation and good leadership will make them do a miracle patch. Sure, management is important and CAN make a difference but it takes TIME. Lots of it. You need to hire and fire, make organizational changes, etc. Craig said some good words about the future but that's just what they are, words. I could quit my job and become FC's new Game Director and write 10 pages about how we are going to change this and implement that, but it doesn't mean shit. Don't listen to their words, wait for the results. Also I recommend you do NOT listen to guys like "CobraSolidus" from Norway (!) who came out of blue the same time FunCom stock hit rock bottom, and writes many posts every day telling how AWESOME the game is or is going to be. I mean, are people blind? Don't you see that clearly this guy is affiliated with FC in some way and is trying to get more people to finance their MMO disaster? And I'm sure he's not the only FC employee visiting these forums regularly. Personally I will never give FC another cent of my money, not even if they made the MMO of my dreams. It's about a principle. We need to send a message to developers who lie and deliver incomplete MMO's. I'm looking forward to seeing FC go down in flames. I just feel bad for all the hard working low level employees who were betrayed by the management and had no part in this fiasco.
Well I certianly have my own frustrations with the game, but I still love to play. I'm going to continue to play until I get bored. Most of my complaints revolve around the PVP system, crafting and the fact there is still no DX10 in the game. But it's fun PVE, immersive world, my server population isn't what it once was but there has been up-tick in activity since the lastest major PVP patch. They're coming out with another adventure region soon, supposed to go on the test server very soon and they said that crafting overhauls and DX10 was coming soon. So, I'll continue to play AoC and WAR (which also has many problems).
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Yes, I did.
Believe me, I know ALL about DnL. You can see for yourself what I had to say about the game. I think I can safely promise you that its far worse than anything you have ever said about the game.
I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
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Yes, I did.
Believe me, I know ALL about DnL. You can see for yourself what I had to say about the game. I think I can safely promise you that its far worse than anything you have ever said about the game.
I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
Oh, ok then, at least you can tell the difference, like so many poster here cannot, who treat AOC as if it was DnL.
Solution is simple, Vote with your wallet.
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How are you?" -Me
You must be unaware of the new patch 3.0 (On test live allready) and the pcoming crafting changes.
Other than that, seems you take to many things personally about the launch of the game, if 50$ was too much of a gamble for you to take, i suggest you wait 6 months before buying any MMO.
It is not the $50, or whatever amount that was paid. It was that we were not delivered a product as advertised, and, further, that we were lied to again and again. Waiting 6 months for any product to deliver what is advertised is not a good way to do buisiness, and I for one am proud to be a part of an MMO community that stood up and voted with our wallets, as well as legitimate vocal criticisms, of a flawed product. Sure, we may be out $50, but one corrupt Game Director is out of a job and a company that has lied since day one is paying enourmously for it's sins. We, as consumers, are the winners here, and it is up to Funcom to dust itself off and gather what is left to fix it's tarnished reputation.
Releasing patches for a broken game is hardly all that is needed. No, to make things right Funcom has to not only cease it's practice of misleading consumers, it also has to find a way to make things right. Firing Gaute was certainly a step in the right direction, but hardly a complete fix, either. Empty servers don't lie: the community is sick and tired of Funcom and its lies. Lets be real here, however: very few of the people, myself included, that Funcom ripped off would ever consider giving them one cent ever again. GAME OVER.
It is no accident that AO is a FTP game. Funcom=FAIL.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
We all know that funcom promised the world and delivered the thimble with sand in it. The game was not released as advertised. They then engaged in brutal forum measures to silence the dissenters thinking that people that visited the forums migth actually not notice that the game sucked. They are getting what they deserved.
Whens the last time a game developer pulled the crap they pulled and was then run out of the industry?
Wonder where Gaute is hiding today? Probably sipping Mai Tais on the money he managed to steal from people by hyping what he HAD TO KNOW was subpar software.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
One of my problems with AoC is the low population of zones. I mean, not low population servers but the fact that they fit very few people in every instance of the same zone. This goes against inmersion and is really a problem when creating groups. I never created a group in AoC with needing to deal with the instances.
You don't have to worry about that anymore, there aren't enough people to create multiple instances in any zone I've visted for the last month. I have to say, traversing the instances was in no way complicated. Though it would have been nice if they had a woking group teleport option, it was there but didn't work.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yes, I did.
Believe me, I know ALL about DnL. You can see for yourself what I had to say about the game. I think I can safely promise you that its far worse than anything you have ever said about the game.
I'm not saying that AoC was anywhere as near as bad as DnL. What I'm saying is that if there were more severe consequences for developers who release poor quality games (such as the consequences DnL had to endure) then fewer developers would be willing to risk making poor quality games in the first place. And since the goverment isn't likely to open a department of "beating the crap out of half-assed MMO developers" any time in the near future, its up to us as the consumers of these products to make them feel the consequences with the only weapon at our disposal: Not spending money on them.
No if the same thing happened to MMO's that happened to DnL you would have companies too afraid to make MMO's then we'd be in the same situation where consoles are currently. Nothing but sequals or movie tie ins. The reason that happens is because it's too risky to try and make original IP's these days.
Actually they are getting more than a cent from you right now...How? because you pay your monthly bill to your Internet Provider and your using that money spent to come here to give your boohoo speech.
If people wants to re subscribe why not?
There are far worse games than AoC, for me what made me leave is the game design, not the amount of bugs and neither because the game was unfinished.
This game is 100% guild oriented, outside of a guild you can't achieve anything, and that's too restrictive for me.
But if others like this kind of design, AoC is going to get a lot better, so why not giving it another chance?
The best comment is:
"i have no idea what you're talking about"
Maybe i started to play too late, but i'm not sure what this all about. I'm playing for 2+ months now and i can't even remember a single bug i experienced.
Lag spikes happen sometimes, but it doesn't bother me too much and this is it - can't rembember anything else.
And speaking about people who "work for FC" now you mister and many others here realy sound like they're hired by FunCom's competition to decrease AOC rating, otherwise WHAT THE HELL are you all doing here spaming your critique every day that doesn't have any reasonable arguments except " it's bad, everyone knows it is!"
So ok, everyone heard the story about how some ppl "won't ever try it again", "won't spend a cent for it" Oh...and why there's no " i won't post to AOC forum again"? Now this is strange...
The best comment is:
"i have no idea what you're talking about"
Maybe i started to play too late, but i'm not sure what this all about. I'm playing for 2+ months now and i can't even remember a single bug i experienced.
Lag spikes happen sometimes, but it doesn't bother me too much and this is it - can't rembember anything else.
And speaking about people who "work for FC" now you mister and many others here realy sound like they're hired by FunCom's competition to decrease AOC rating, otherwise WHAT THE HELL are you all doing here spaming your critique every day that doesn't have any reasonable arguments except " it's bad, everyone knows it is!"
So ok, everyone heard the story about how some ppl "won't ever try it again", "won't spend a cent for it" Oh...and why there's no " i won't post to AOC forum again"? Now this is strange...
Only funcom can make people so angry that they go on JIHADS against the company, here in the Forums.
Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
actually my own personal feeling with WAr hammer made me come back to AOC
Not that I didnt like WAR but it didnt justify leaving AOC for it.
I actually bought a game card for 60 days .
With teh testlive patch 3 coming up things are looking up
Well according to some in this forum I am a troll because left WAR to play AoC. I played AoC before WAR also, it's just that I can't take 3 months of lagg and crashing in WAR before it gets better. WAR gatta sort out their stuff before I come back. The game is simply not good enough for me to put up with the problems.
/troll end
I'm thinking about retrying AoC. I have gotten so bored of WoW atm that I can't even think about getting another expansion that will be the same shit again. War I played in beta and it was all but entertaining me.
AoC had some really good elements... but I got a little bothered about nothing really obvious to do at cap but now it has had some time to mature just like AO did so it might be worth a second try. ^^
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
Possible and thanks for not nailing me because I was unfortunate enough to have problems. Some of these WARboys just really loose it if I mention that I had problems.
I think the main difference is - when AOC was released almost everyone was having problems. With WAR I dont know anyone thats having problems. Not saying there arent any but it doesnt seem to be as widespread as AOC
From what I heard from friends who are still playing both it's more like AoC had server side problems while WAR had alot of client side errors. Which is worse I don't know
are you a fortune teller or something? from what i see conan is actually original while warhammer feels like wow. why cant people make up there own minds in what they play? they want to play to have fun let them. if they dont its no big deal they will just cancel again. let people do with there money as they will.
That's probably the best post I've seen on these forums, "Why can't people make up their own minds?" Granted, researching before you buy is a good thing but keep in mind that people who are actually enjoying a game are probably playing it and not wasting time here.
That's probably the best post I've seen on these forums, "Why can't people make up their own minds?" Granted, researching before you buy is a good thing but keep in mind that people who are actually enjoying a game are probably playing it and not wasting time here.
I agree with people need to make up their own minds, I do not agree with things like "those who are enjoying it are not waisting time here" cause that is wrong, it's like I've seen many times, people totaly forget there is more then just playing games, many people work and use internet while they work, gamers will often use internet to go to forums or seek info upon games, not every person is able to play his or her favorite game 24/7
And like i said before to stay on topic I aint comming back but I have hardly seen reasons posted I could identify with the complaints, like with most MMORPG I have played I read more about bugs or issue's with a game then I encounter them myself. My reasons have to do with my playstyle and it simply does not fit within the AoC world, I am a explorer and AoC didn't offer me anything to explore as everything is guided to where you have to go, this goes from getting resources to getting quest everything is handhold which to me does not fit my playstyle as that is the only reason I left it.
If i was into pvp more I might consider the game again but I aint a pvp'r but am more of a MMORPG player and as I mentioned many times before pvp in MMORPG are simply far to slow for my taste yes even AoC even if it's much faster then most MMORPG it still doesn't give me that thrill I get from the more PVP oriented games like CoD/UT and the like. Also been disappointed by the first person view like most MMORPG they choose the "Stair to death approach" instead of seeing your weapons or limbs when in FP view.
The reason it seems that people are saying "its bad, everyone knows it is" rather than posting long detailed rants explaining why its bad is because we all posted those rants MONTHS ago before you showed up. Most of us don't feel like retyping ten pages of complaints about a game we don't even play and its not worth the effort when the majority of people here have already read everything we have posted before.
The History of the Order of The Golden Shields
No - Im never re-subing AOC. It has nothing to do with how god or bad the game will be at some stage. It has to do with the fact that Funcom broke certain principles that I feel (specially after the launch of AOC) should never be broken.
You can all say that WAR is WOW2. But what you can not say is that WAR respected their BETA testers. They respeced their custimors by actually allowing them to know what they were buying. Thats why I will give WAR every chance to improve cause its not perfect. I did not expect that with WAR. And I did not expect that with AOC. But I still expected Funcom to be honest about the state of the game they released. They were not.
So no. AOC is something I will never consider again. And neither is buying any product from FUncom ever again.
Ok, looks like i was too optimistic. I just read about upcoming changes (though i didn't find official note yet) and if they gonna simplify combat system, like removing 6 long combos and increase armor effect by a lot (vs player skill) i'll seriously condider leaving AOC. Actualy - the day i see all combos are 2 keys long or instant and who has more expensive armor=wins - AOC will become another stupid "clicker" like WOW, WO and others for me so i'll definately quit.
Making combat more WOW like is the worst idea AOC developers could come across. Without it's specific features - AOC won't be able to compete with WOW/WO and others. At least many more mature players will leave and kiddies will go back to WOW. How sad.
No, you've largely misunderstood the upcoming changes.
Read this post if you want to get the full lowdown on the latest patch 3.0. In particular, the changes that relate to your concerns are as follows:
• For each attack in the combo chain that you do without a valid target, your end damage (on the combo finisher) is reduced 15% per miss.
• You can now only receive the benefit from Momentum (double-tap forward) and Sidestep (double-tap sideways) once every 6 seconds.
• Added a 6 second internal cooldown to the double-tap backwards Evasion buff.
• The double-tap backwards evasion buff now increases evade chance by 25% (down from 50%).
In other words, they are not making combat "simpler" per se, rather they're toning down the value of the hugely unrealistic 'kiting' tactic in melee combat whereby a fighter rushes/jumps around into and out of melee range (and is incredibly hard to hit because of massive Evasion buffs from leaping), only swooping in for the final finishing strike of a combo yet still dealing the full damage for the whole combo.
Regarding armour becoming more important, the new Director's address does suggest that this will be the case in future updates. He rightly pointed out that currently there's little progression in the power level of most gear between low and high level, such that it's quite common to be wearing equipment that you've had for the last ten or twenty levels which is still as or more useful as/than anything else you find. How heavily this will impact on PVP remains to be seen, but whatever happens it will still be some way off. Doubtless it will result in less naked PvP (except perhaps amongst Dark Desires members).
Well I certianly have my own frustrations with the game, but I still love to play. I'm going to continue to play until I get bored. Most of my complaints revolve around the PVP system, crafting and the fact there is still no DX10 in the game. But it's fun PVE, immersive world, my server population isn't what it once was but there has been up-tick in activity since the lastest major PVP patch. They're coming out with another adventure region soon, supposed to go on the test server very soon and they said that crafting overhauls and DX10 was coming soon. So, I'll continue to play AoC and WAR (which also has many problems).