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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Originally posted by ChristianBal



     

    Problem with voiceovers is that they are very expensive to produce. And if you want to change the dialogue later, you are pretty much screwed.

    The fact is Funcom ran out of time and money. THAT is why Tortage was (and still is) the only polished part of AoC and has voiceovers.

    Rest of the game is unfinished plain and simple. I personally believe they launched about 2 years too early and I'm sure most of the Funcom staff agree.

     

    probably the most obvious flaw in this game in terms of development, which is demonstrated by the VO issue, was management of resources.  Seems they were aiming for something that was way too big in scope for what they had money for, and for what money they'd be getting.  By release time, it became clear that the money didn't go as far as they'd hoped, and many fundamentals were tossed to the wayside.

    If they had done everything perfectly, I think this still would have been a game with around 300k subscribers.  Nothing to sneeze at by any means, but when you supply a big budget to a niche game, you'll get burnt even if you succeed.

    I'm at 39th lvl with a HoX, with a bunch of other classes around 10-15-ish, and am enjoying the game.  There seems to be more than enough content for my character up to this point, but not enough to make even a second classes' experience unique or even close.

    So I can see why some people love the game, and why some feel ripped off.  Even now, bugs abound.  The "always logging in at midnight" bug has been around less than a week and is already getting old.  Some of the completely bizarre mission difficulty judgements(20-ish level missions traveling through 70+ level mob country)... the way climb is used; not as an interesting gameplay element, but rather a means to block low levels from certain areas...

    Despite that sort of stuff, I still enjoy playing.

    I hope it survives.  I have no ill will toward Funcom.  I think they did the world of Conan justice.  I'll play the game til' it's no longer fun.  Then I'll stop.

  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821
    Originally posted by Robsolf




    The "always logging in at midnight" bug has been around less than a week and is already getting old. 

     

    Already fixed on the test server with the latest patch. Should be coming to live asap.

     

  • QuadniumQuadnium Member Posts: 2

    Yeah this IS   a great game.

     

    Just need the hardware to really appreciate what Funcom did here.

     

     

  • Vato26Vato26 Member Posts: 3,930
    Originally posted by ChristianBal


    Great.. another positive review by a guy who is level 9?! Give me a break.
    Hey OP, come back when you get to the endgame. THEN you will see why 90% of players quit Age of Conan. Meanwhile.. enjoy your Tortage.

    Got proof to back up that stat?  Or, did you pull that one out of your rear?

  • phlcarlphlcarl Member Posts: 37
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by Vato26

    Originally posted by ChristianBal


    Great.. another positive review by a guy who is level 9?! Give me a break.
    Hey OP, come back when you get to the endgame. THEN you will see why 90% of players quit Age of Conan. Meanwhile.. enjoy your Tortage.

    Got proof to back up that stat?  Or, did you pull that one out of your rear?

     

    I don't need to prove you shit.

    Every non-fanboi who was playing at the time, knows that 90% is the truth because they saw it with their own eyes.

    But if it makes you feel better, please cry more about proof .

    lol, you sound like christian bale on his rant, oh wait that's your avatar. and if people think tortage was the best part of AoC then that shows what kind of gamer you are. I found tortage to be the most boring part of AoC.

  • DrednaughtDrednaught Member Posts: 115
    Originally posted by ChristianBal


    Great.. another positive review by a guy who is level 9?! Give me a break.
    Hey OP, come back when you get to the endgame. THEN you will see why 90% of players quit Age of Conan. Meanwhile.. enjoy your Tortage.

     

    So you have a lvl 80 char then? Of course you do otherwise you wouldnt know what the end game is like.

    Strange thing though is when I dont like a game I sure as hell dont manage to lvl a char to the max lvl before I quit.So even though you hate AoC/Funcom and continually spew your venom on this forum you played it till you got a lvl 80????? Man guess it aint so bad after all otherwise you would have quit.

    How is the free account you got these days anyway? Still logging in to check the endgame or you stuck in Tortage?

    Gaming since 1985 and still going strong.

  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566

     jesus christ!

     

    guy makes a thread saying "i having fun in the game" and it turns into 6 pages of arguing?

     

    just be happy for the guy.  effs sake......

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  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by Drednaught


    So you have a lvl 80 char then? Of course you do otherwise you wouldnt know what the end game is like.
    Strange thing though is when I dont like a game I sure as hell dont manage to lvl a char to the max lvl before I quit.So even though you hate AoC/Funcom and continually spew your venom on this forum you played it till you got a lvl 80????? Man guess it aint so bad after all otherwise you would have quit.
    How is the free account you got these days anyway? Still logging in to check the endgame or you stuck in Tortage?

     

    Yes, I have a level 80 character. Why? Like I've said before.. I hated every second of grinding to that level 80, but I saw light at the end of the tunnel, the "awesome" AoC siege battle!! I kept telling myself that it was all worth it because the endgame is going to be great like Funcom promised.

    Then I saw the boring endgame and my eyes opened.

    In my opinion people who like AoC , almost always have a level 1-60 character, and people who hate AoC, almost always have 1 or more max level characters. What does this tell us?

    It tells us that AoC is fun for a while but once you get to higher levels, you get bored and quit. This has happened to EVERY SINGLE of my RL gaming friends (20+ people) and it happened to me too.

    AoC is fun for 1-2 months, maybe even less. Why do you think 90% of players quit after launch?

  • tfwarlordtfwarlord Member Posts: 216


    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by openedge1



    Thanks to fleshed out quests, all levels are incredible now. I have a level 22, 30 and 62 . The 62 is finishing up Ymirs pass, and has a full journal for Thunder River. Great stuff.

     
    What about when you get to level 70-80 and realize there's nothing interesting to do?
    It's reroll or quit. 90% chose quit, 10% chose reroll. Which one are you?
    Theres the pvp ofcause, which is great. Both the mini games and just groups in pvp areas is great fun.
    I havent even been in the boarder kingdom yet, and i still do like 70% pvp 30% pve. (i am on a pvp server ofcause). Its very fun.. Sadly i cant play aoc right now, because my stationary comp for fried last week. Both the moutherboard and the Grahpic card :::'(::. But when i get my deposit back from my old apartment i will buy a new comp and game alot of AoC agian :-)

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by openedge1



    Thanks to fleshed out quests, all levels are incredible now. I have a level 22, 30 and 62 . The 62 is finishing up Ymirs pass, and has a full journal for Thunder River. Great stuff.

     

    What about when you get to level 70-80 and realize there's nothing interesting to do?

    You mean like the current system? When my 62 reaches 70, I have no issue parking him until patch 1.05 and Tarantia Commons which will fill that 70-80 void. Don't forget, I have 3 playing at this time, and I have had no issues with content.

    It's reroll or quit. 90% chose quit, 10% chose reroll. Which one are you?

    As I mentioned, I already have 3 characters, so no need to reroll.

    I think I have asked this before, so please provide your data when quoting figures. Otherwise it is a personal opinion that is wrong. If I am to use my guild as a broad example of how many quit, it averages about 5-10%. That is factual based as it is in real situations due to actually playing the game. This is far from your quote. Now, this does not mean a ton have not quit in the past? No... but seeing that I live in present day, this is not an issue, and actually I have seen a rebound and player retention is growing.

    Now, I could continue to think about the past, or I can look forward. At this point, speaking of how the game has progressed and is getting better, I see no problems enjoying myself for a long time.

    Thanks.

     

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by tfwarlord


     

    Originally posted by ChristianBal



    What about when you get to level 70-80 and realize there's nothing interesting to do?

    It's reroll or quit. 90% chose quit, 10% chose reroll. Which one are you?
    Theres the pvp ofcause, which is great. Both the mini games and just groups in pvp areas is great fun.

     

     

    If you think pvp in AoC is "great fun", then I'm sorry to say, you don't know what good pvp is. (In my opinion)

    Pvp in AoC is a joke. (in my opinion)

    Fixed. I would hate for you to be banned for not offering better information to this thread..

    Cheers.

  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566

    im honestly at a complete loss for words other than daily i get more of an understanding who is responsible for what is clearly wrong with this country.

     

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  • GruntiesGrunties Member Posts: 859
    Originally posted by phlcarl


    and if people think tortage was the best part of AoC then that shows what kind of gamer you are. I found tortage to be the most boring part of AoC.



     

    You know, you are right. Both during tortage and after tortage were really really boring.

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476
    Originally posted by cerebrix


     i went back and reread this thread from the beginning to see where the hell it went so off course
     
    openedge, this thread is completely your fault.  you owe the op an apology.  
     
    i know you had good intentions, but really, you should have left that comment alone.  nobody was attacking anyone before you came in here and started accusing pepole of spreading misinformation.
     
    I like the game too, im subbed to both this and war for the next 8 months thanks to gamecards from the circuit city liquidation.
     
    seriously, go reread everyone above your first post then look at yours.  you changed the tone of the thread and thats not cool.
     
    to the op:
    im glad youre diggin the game.  I am too.  keep havin fun and ill do my best to do the same.  



     

    You have 8 months of gamecards thats great. My question is if Funcom goes belly-up between now and your 8 months do you get a refund from them or like all things with Funcom, " Let the Buyer Beware " Just curouious.

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  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Elsabolts

    Originally posted by cerebrix


     i went back and reread this thread from the beginning to see where the hell it went so off course
     
    openedge, this thread is completely your fault.  you owe the op an apology.  
     
    i know you had good intentions, but really, you should have left that comment alone.  nobody was attacking anyone before you came in here and started accusing pepole of spreading misinformation.
     
    I like the game too, im subbed to both this and war for the next 8 months thanks to gamecards from the circuit city liquidation.
     
    seriously, go reread everyone above your first post then look at yours.  you changed the tone of the thread and thats not cool.
     
    to the op:
    im glad youre diggin the game.  I am too.  keep havin fun and ill do my best to do the same.  



     

    You have 8 months of gamecards thats great. My question is if Funcom goes belly-up between now and your 8 months do you get a refund from them or like all things with Funcom, " Let the Buyer Beware " Just curouious.



     

    Same can be said for WAR Elsa, considering he said both games. Difference is FC have never canned an mmorpg before, after release. He got the cards in liquidation sale too which obviously have certain stipulations attached.



  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566
    "Great spirits have always encountered violent oppostion from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

     

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476
    Originally posted by cerebrix

    Originally posted by Elsabolts




     
    You have 8 months of gamecards thats great. My question is if Funcom goes belly-up between now and your 8 months do you get a refund from them or like all things with Funcom, " Let the Buyer Beware " Just curouious.



     

    ok dude let me explain a few things.

     

    a) ive been a funcom customer on and off since 2001.  i was there at ao launch so i know a bad funcom launch when i see one.  Although I think a better way to describe it is not a funcom launch persay, but a gaute godager launch.  I've said in previous posts what I think about that guy based on my experiences as a customer but I'll brush over there here again.  I expected Gaute to blow this launch.  He blew the ao launch too except that one was the worst mmo launch in history.  you couldnt zone half the time.  client crashes.  invisible mobs that could attack you through walls.  They don't get much worse than that.  Funcom isnt going belly up anytime soon.  People forget they are recieving a ton of subsidy funds from the Norwegian Government via artistic grants.

     

    b) i bought my game cards at 10 bucks each.  I bought both War cards and aoc cards because thats what my store had left when we went into liquidation.  as an employee, i stashed them all and bought them up when the liquidation percentage dropped their price enough.  all sales are final, no refunds.  hell, im the guy that put the damn signs up in my store in the first place.



     

    Ok good luck, but my next question now is if your store can go belly up why can not Funcom. Times are not good and worse in socialistic countries ie: Norway. Is this line of thought ok with you " Dude"

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  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by Elsabolts

    Originally posted by cerebrix

    Originally posted by Elsabolts




     
    You have 8 months of gamecards thats great. My question is if Funcom goes belly-up between now and your 8 months do you get a refund from them or like all things with Funcom, " Let the Buyer Beware " Just curouious.



     

    ok dude let me explain a few things.

     

    a) ive been a funcom customer on and off since 2001.  i was there at ao launch so i know a bad funcom launch when i see one.  Although I think a better way to describe it is not a funcom launch persay, but a gaute godager launch.  I've said in previous posts what I think about that guy based on my experiences as a customer but I'll brush over there here again.  I expected Gaute to blow this launch.  He blew the ao launch too except that one was the worst mmo launch in history.  you couldnt zone half the time.  client crashes.  invisible mobs that could attack you through walls.  They don't get much worse than that.  Funcom isnt going belly up anytime soon.  People forget they are recieving a ton of subsidy funds from the Norwegian Government via artistic grants.

     

    b) i bought my game cards at 10 bucks each.  I bought both War cards and aoc cards because thats what my store had left when we went into liquidation.  as an employee, i stashed them all and bought them up when the liquidation percentage dropped their price enough.  all sales are final, no refunds.  hell, im the guy that put the damn signs up in my store in the first place.



     

    Ok good luck, but my next question now is if your store can go belly up why can not Funcom. Times are not good and worse in socialistic countries ie: Norway. Is this line of thought ok with you " Dude"



     

    CCP + EVE + Icelandic situation anyone? Why only here promoting this stuff? Actually Norway is not part of the EU and not under same financial issues as the Euro is, they were smart like Britain and steered clear.



  • simplydamansimplydaman Member Posts: 19

    Ok TBH i have not read any of this post but would like a trial to see the game! Hook me up, Ive got a war key if someone wants a trade! :)  sorry for the hijack

  • finaticdfinaticd Member Posts: 843

    Why in other games do low levels get laughed off the forums for posting information but in age of conan pretty much every new low level player is compelled to come post about how awesome this game is because they are an expert?

    just an observation but after playing popular MMOs for a long time it seems AoC has 100 times more of these than all other MMOs combined.

     

    oh well, have fun...you should bring 4 friends to Warhammer and level as it has a real fun leveling system ALL THE WAY TO CAP.

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Avery the Kid admitted he did not pay what he should of for the cards i was trying to point this out in a nice way and hoped someone else would say something. Most know i do not like how Funcom does business and will call them on it when i can. Looks to me he's playing at a reduced cost when most are paying what close to $15.00. If others do the same it seems to me it may over time cause problems. In this day and business climate anyone can go out of busniess includeing Funcom.

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by finaticd


    Why in other games do low levels get laughed off the forums for posting information but in age of conan pretty much every new low level player is compelled to come post about how awesome this game is because they are an expert?
    just an observation but after playing popular MMOs for a long time it seems AoC has 100 times more of these than all other MMOs combined.

    Ive played many mmos

    Tortage is easily the best starting area Ive ever played in a mmo

    - just wish it wasnt the ONLY starting area

     

    there is a dazzle factor to Tortage that can inspire players to post even tho its all under 20

     

    and no I'm not a AOC fan, I bought the game but did not subscribe

  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566
    this website is rediculous.

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  • Calintz333Calintz333 Member UncommonPosts: 1,193

    So are you trying to say the game changes after the first 20 or so levels?

     

    So there is no longer quests to do from NPCs?

    No longer a Auction house?

    No longer players to interract with?

    No longer storyline missions or quests to follow every few levels?

    So what happens after 20? Does the game start running out of quests, voice work dies out, player numbers drop? and glitches and bugs start appearing in abundance? Whats so bad about leveling past 20 that everyone is so damn bitter about?

    Is it because Funcome broke old promisses to you back like a year ago or is it real issues that are currently the games problem RIGHT NOW?

     I think a lot of the people who post here are just bitter about the borken promisses that this company made when the game was coming out. However I honestly think that the over dramatization of this games problems is mostly built up anger from a lot of bitter players.

    I am only level 18 but the game so far has been very fun. Take it from some one who has played Free 2 play games for the past 14 months. This game is simply stunning so far. I am sure the game does not get bad enough to the point where Korean grind fest games begin to feel appealing again. If it does ill come back here and let you know why that happens, however I have 2 friends from Norway who are about to join me playing AoC on the US servers. So I Don't think We will be to bored. One of them is already a level 60 in Euro servers the other is just starting today.

    Also considering I Found the game on a store selve for 20 dollars. and got a month free. I only really ended up paying 5 dollars for the game. Id say I Got a great deal and my money's worth already.

     

    Worst thing that can happen in the game does not have enough players to support it and shuts down. If it happens..well to bad. Im only going to play as long as I have fun with it. I played Korean grind fests up to max level without item malls before, which was more boring than going to the doctor. But I had no money back then. I saved a bit now and have enough to pay a subscription game. "College is not cheep" but If the game stops being fun ill stop playing.

    Or simply wait for them to update it and fix anything that is currently wrong with it.

  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by TheBouncer

    Originally posted by Vato26



    The sad part is, you won't ever see him post proof on the "90%" figure.  Cause, when I mentioned if he had proof, he flew off in a fit of rage and had his post deleted by the mods.  But, it's not like we don't already know that its another made up "statistic" to try and "prove" his perceived failure of AoC to everyone else.  Really sad that some people just can't let it go.  I mean, I have lots of MMORPG's that I hate (WAR for example), but I don't go over there and bash those games on those forums every chance I get.  People need to learn from that and stop this unnecessary trolling.  Oh, and learn to stop pulling figures out of their rears.

     

    In the real world people think 80-90% is accurate but if you say it here, fanbois go crazy and accuse you for trolling. they are in denial and refuse to see the facts.

    The issue is facts are usually backed up with proof (which you seem to question whether someone needs to give in the first place.). Hatebois feel the need to use accurate numbers in their wording, but never have that thing called "proof"

    You cannot use the word "facts" and then not have something to show with those "facts". The "assumption" is by a lot of people, that AoC lost 80-90%. Now that would be correct wording.

    In your sentence, it would look better as such...

    "It is my belief that on the Internet people think 80-90% is accurate but if you say it here, fanbois go crazy and accuse you for trolling. they are denying this as fact and refuse to see the the assumption that 80-90% left the game.."

    Notice that this is the proper wording.

    I have no doubt a large audience took a dive and left, but when you use actual numbers, you better have something to show for those numbers as being accurate.

    Cheers

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