Hello all it's been awhile since i was last one this site i finally have deiced to build my own gaming machine i plan on building it as money comes...what are good components to put in side of i know that the GFX card is the most important so i have saved for that and a nice motherboard..The motherboard is what i am worried about i don't know how to by the right one if anyone has any tips please let me know thanks.
I built my own machine two weeks ago and am loving it. Some suggestions for you on selecting your MB: #1. Buy the processor you want and get a MB designed with it in mind. I'm using an Asus A8V Deluxe with a Athlon 64 3500+ processor and it runs awesome. #2. Make sure the board you get supports a CPU line that isn't on the verge of being discontinued, I went with a socket 939. #3. Get a name brand board like Asus and stay away from the generics. #4. Order all your parts (including MB) from a trusted wholesaler if possible. One which has been around for a long while and has good ratings on pricewatch, pricegrabber, bizrate, etc. I used www.zipzoomfly.com and had zero problems and there are tons of other good ones out there. #5. Make sure the parts you buy are RETAIL components, if I had screwed up and ordered something important like my MB OEM or Bulk it wouldn't have come with the nifty 90pg manual which walked me through installing all the components on the MB properly and I would have been royally fucked. #6. I really would advise waiting until you have all the cash you need to purchase your components, you can build a great system for about 1grand if you already have a monitor and 21inch CRT's are down below 100.
Hope those help ya, and have fun with your new toy!
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I am wanting to either totally rebuild most of my computer -- or upgrade some parts.
I am wanting to build a nice PC -- not TOP TOP of the line (like thousands of dollars), but a really good gaming PC with not ridiculously expensive stuff -- but i don't want it to be unupgradeable a few months from now. I'll tell you what i have, and you tell me what i need to get.
I have a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ 1.99gigs 126 Ram. 120 gig hard drive, Radeon 9000
Obviously i need to upgrade my processor, motherboard, graphics card and Ram... but what else do i need? I'm really new at building PC's ... so if people could give suggetions on what to get? I don't have more than 800 dollars... so help me out guys :-D.
I was in here asking the same sort of question about two months ago and I found that your best teachers are going to be the installation manuals that come with your Motherboard, Chassis and CPU, make sure you get those components retail and not bulk to ensure that they'll have the documentation/instructions that you'll need.
As far as what you buy I was also looking at spending around 800 to build my new system and I ended up spending about $1050US.
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Ohhh, this threads come back to life again Shrinky I reccomend AMD64 on a 939pin motherboard, as its practically the same cost as a 754pin mobo. I'd say get a 3000+ or 3200+, these will keep you going for a while to come yet, and clock very nicley too. Im planing on getting a 3200+ myself. You're going to need a HSF with that too, i always go with Zalman, For me they always offer the best cooling and therefor a higher OC . As for graphics card i'd go with the 9800pro, i think it gives the most bang for your buck. If you dont have the budget for it id go with a 9600pro. It still offers great playablitly even with the latest games, granted you wont be playing HL2 on top specs but it will still play with good graphics and a good framerate. RAM can really creep up on you and bite you in the ass pricewise, its one of those things you dont account for, well i dont anyway . As your on a budget go for some value RAM from a decent manufacturer, like this, you might want to add another sitck if your budget allows it. Other than what you've suggested you might need, theres also CD/DVD drives, SoundCards, PSUs or even a new case not mention other peripherals like speakers, keyboards and mice. Hope this helps
I've been doing some research lately because I'm planning on building a PC as well. I pretty much want a good gaming rig but not a ultra expensive one. I already have drives from my current PC so that helps with the price. Heres what I found and the prices for all. Any suggestions would help as well.
Case- EZ-media G7 black ATX mid tower with 480-watt powersupply-$69.99
CPU- Intel P4 530 3.0 Ghz 1mb cache- $189.99
Memory- Ultra 1024mb DDR ram PC3200- $199.99
Video Card- Chaintech GeForce 6600 256MB DDR PCI express- $184.99
MOBO- Asus P5GD-1 Intel socket 775, PCI express ready
Without shipping all this came to about like $784.99 or so. Also like I said if anyone has any other suggestions they would be appreciated.
Originally posted by Saigonshakes I've been doing some research lately because I'm planning on building a PC as well. I pretty much want a good gaming rig but not a ultra expensive one. I already have drives from my current PC so that helps with the price. Heres what I found and the prices for all. Any suggestions would help as well.Case- EZ-media G7 black ATX mid tower with 480-watt powersupply-$69.99CPU- Intel P4 530 3.0 Ghz 1mb cache- $189.99Memory- Ultra 1024mb DDR ram PC3200- $199.99Video Card- Chaintech GeForce 6600 256MB DDR PCI express- $184.99MOBO- Asus P5GD-1 Intel socket 775, PCI express readyWithout shipping all this came to about like $784.99 or so. Also like I said if anyone has any other suggestions they would be appreciated.
Shit i'm bad... I self educated myself in ways of controlling feelings, now nothing feels like it's true... gotta be an assasin or sumtin. even "WOW! YOU'VE GOT A GREAT EQUALIZER" gives your everyday fanboi an erection araound here so watch your mouth
in my country(montenegro across italy)this is prices:nvidia ge-force 6600-156.99e amd 64 3200+(939chipset):230e with every sending in other country cost top 10e
AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail
Model#ADA3200AXBOX
Item # N82E16819103483
SpecificationModel: AMD Athlon 64 3200+Core: NewcastleOperating Frequency: 2.2GHzFSB: Integrated int chipCache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512KVoltage: 1.5VProcess: 0.13MicronSocket: Socket 754Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+Warranty: 3-year MFGPackaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) you're so much better off getting a 64 bit processor for the same price..
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Don't get a socket 754... you kill all chances of upgrading your CPU later on without having to replace a ton of crap. AMD Athlon 3500+ w/ socket 939 and a MB that supports 939 so you won't have to build a new system next time you want to upgrade. It's probably an extra $75US or so but its' worth it.
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Thanks for the help guys. Also thanks for the heads up about the socket 939 Valarauk. I guess I'll do some more shopping around. I figured AMD athlon was better just wasn't as sure about them. I'll continue my search.
I'm havin a bit of a problem with my comp, nothin too serious, just annoying. If I need to reboot my machine for soem reason, if I dont let it rest for 5-10min before turning it back on, it will usually get to the scrren that says WinXP and had that little blue bar scrolling across, and freeze. Sometimes it will jsut take a really long time to get to the desktop, but once it does, it will freeze. I have also noticed some ocasional serious lag issues with offline games such as Doom3 and Warcraft 3. Any ideas what could be causing this? Too little/bad RAM?
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After you've got all these programs running and your system is relatively clean start disabling programs in your startup menu by removing them, start with those you have installed most recently (if the problem started recently). Reboot your machine after each removal and see if the problem goes away.
I had your same problem on my laptop earlier in the year and it ended up being a diagnostic program I got free with a copy of the WinXP official magazine (please don't ask why I even had one). I got rid of the program and my system speeded up again.
Also be sure to defragment/cleanup when needed.
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Cool, I will do that. So you think it is likely not a hardware problem? I generally keep my systems defragged n whatnot, tho I recently ran Norton SpeedDisk on this particular system, do you know anything about this software?
The fact that you sometimes have to let it "rest" for 5-10minutes made me think cooling problem initially but if that was the case the system should crash about the same time after you turn it on every time. I ran into a similar problem earlier in the year on my laptop and the steps in my last post fixed it for me. If those don't work maybe you should check to make sure all your fans including CPU fan are running normally. If you have the manual that came with your MB/CPU there should be something on fan operation levels. Also are you using AMD cool'n'quiet technology (or anything like that)? If so there's always the chance one of your tempature gauges isn't functioning properly and it's not giving your cooling system enough power.
Yes I'm somewhat familiar with programs like speeddisk/diskwarrior and they usually work pretty well for repairing crashed systems.
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Try going for atleast 2.2 ghz, and try a Pentium 4 prossesor
Atleast 512 RAM, what type you want is your choice, and what brand, DDR is the usual, but memory is very important, DDR2 works very good, also make that a 1 gb ram, and youv got your self a good memory, but 512 atleast, duel channel,
And the grapich card, no lower then 128 mb, and to get some decent experiecnce nothing tahts worse then a Geforce 5700 or a Radeon 9600, if you want your grapichcard, or GPU as its called, to be super, then aim for the Radeon X series or the nVIDIA 6000 series, the best cards right now are Ati Radeon X800 and nVIDIA 6800, a nVIDIA 6600 costs less then 200 dollars, and is a very good GPU, note that it only fits in PCIe Motherboard socklets.
actually, XFX just came out with the AGP forms of the 6600 series graphics cards, but it runs at about 220 dollars...still a good price though for a card of that power
Quick question. Im in the process of looking for a mobo, cpu, and video card. I'm looking at two options here.
First, Asus A8v deluxe 939 mobo with AMD Athlon 64 3000+ cpu. Since AMD compatible mobo's have AGP I was thinking the new XFX 6600gt.
Second, Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo A Lga 775 socket mobo with Intel P4 3Ghz cpu. Since board has PCI-e Im thinking a 6600gt card for PCI-e.
Now, what is gonna be better for gaming? Paticualry EQ2. I've heard that AMD cpu's are better for gaming but I also heard thet PCI-e video cards are like twice as good as AGP cards. What one will give me the better gaming experience? Thanks a ton for your help!
true that amd cpu's are better for gaming but the statement about PCI-e being twice as good as AGP cards i'm not sure...both cards are clocked at same speeds except that the core of the AGP model is 100 Mhz less than the PCI-e one. Being twice as fast though i highly doubt, but you can look into it
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Hello all it's been awhile since i was last one this site i finally have deiced to build my own gaming machine i plan on building it as money comes...what are good components to put in side of i know that the GFX card is the most important so i have saved for that and a nice motherboard..The motherboard is what i am worried about i don't know how to by the right one if anyone has any tips please let me know thanks.
I built my own machine two weeks ago and am loving it. Some suggestions for you on selecting your MB: #1. Buy the processor you want and get a MB designed with it in mind. I'm using an Asus A8V Deluxe with a Athlon 64 3500+ processor and it runs awesome.
#2. Make sure the board you get supports a CPU line that isn't on the verge of being discontinued, I went with a socket 939.
#3. Get a name brand board like Asus and stay away from the generics.
#4. Order all your parts (including MB) from a trusted wholesaler if possible. One which has been around for a long while and has good ratings on pricewatch, pricegrabber, bizrate, etc. I used www.zipzoomfly.com and had zero problems and there are tons of other good ones out there.
#5. Make sure the parts you buy are RETAIL components, if I had screwed up and ordered something important like my MB OEM or Bulk it wouldn't have come with the nifty 90pg manual which walked me through installing all the components on the MB properly and I would have been royally fucked.
#6. I really would advise waiting until you have all the cash you need to purchase your components, you can build a great system for about 1grand if you already have a monitor and 21inch CRT's are down below 100.
Hope those help ya, and have fun with your new toy!
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Yeah newegg has a good reputation.
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"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
I am wanting to either totally rebuild most of my computer -- or upgrade some parts.
I am wanting to build a nice PC -- not TOP TOP of the line (like thousands of dollars), but a really good gaming PC with not ridiculously expensive stuff -- but i don't want it to be unupgradeable a few months from now. I'll tell you what i have, and you tell me what i need to get.
I have a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ 1.99gigs 126 Ram. 120 gig hard drive, Radeon 9000
Obviously i need to upgrade my processor, motherboard, graphics card and Ram... but what else do i need? I'm really new at building PC's ... so if people could give suggetions on what to get? I don't have more than 800 dollars... so help me out guys :-D.
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I was in here asking the same sort of question about two months ago and I found that your best teachers are going to be the installation manuals that come with your Motherboard, Chassis and CPU, make sure you get those components retail and not bulk to ensure that they'll have the documentation/instructions that you'll need.
As far as what you buy I was also looking at spending around 800 to build my new system and I ended up spending about $1050US.
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Ohhh, this threads come back to life again
.
. As your on a budget go for some value RAM from a decent manufacturer, like this, you might want to add another sitck if your budget allows it.
Shrinky I reccomend AMD64 on a 939pin motherboard, as its practically the same cost as a 754pin mobo. I'd say get a 3000+ or 3200+, these will keep you going for a while to come yet, and clock very nicley too. Im planing on getting a 3200+ myself. You're going to need a HSF with that too, i always go with Zalman, For me they always offer the best cooling and therefor a higher OC
As for graphics card i'd go with the 9800pro, i think it gives the most bang for your buck. If you dont have the budget for it id go with a 9600pro. It still offers great playablitly even with the latest games, granted you wont be playing HL2 on top specs but it will still play with good graphics and a good framerate.
RAM can really creep up on you and bite you in the ass pricewise, its one of those things you dont account for, well i dont anyway
Other than what you've suggested you might need, theres also CD/DVD drives, SoundCards, PSUs or even a new case not mention other peripherals like speakers, keyboards and mice. Hope this helps
I've been doing some research lately because I'm planning on building a PC as well. I pretty much want a good gaming rig but not a ultra expensive one. I already have drives from my current PC so that helps with the price. Heres what I found and the prices for all. Any suggestions would help as well.
Case- EZ-media G7 black ATX mid tower with 480-watt powersupply-$69.99
CPU- Intel P4 530 3.0 Ghz 1mb cache- $189.99
Memory- Ultra 1024mb DDR ram PC3200- $199.99
Video Card- Chaintech GeForce 6600 256MB DDR PCI express- $184.99
MOBO- Asus P5GD-1 Intel socket 775, PCI express ready
Without shipping all this came to about like $784.99 or so. Also like I said if anyone has any other suggestions they would be appreciated.
AMD!
BOOOO
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Model#ADA3200AXBOX
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrated int chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
you're so much better off getting a 64 bit processor for the same price..
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Motherboard with
Nforce4sli/Ati's new chipset
A new socket athlon 64 processor
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A dvd rw
Geforce 6600 gt
or
Radeon x700 xt
Shit i'm bad... I self educated myself in ways of controlling feelings, now nothing feels like it's true... gotta be an assasin or sumtin.
even "WOW! YOU'VE GOT A GREAT EQUALIZER" gives your everyday fanboi an erection araound here so watch your mouth
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every sending in other country cost top 10e
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Originally posted by Saigonshakes
CPU- Intel P4 530 3.0 Ghz 1mb cache- $189.99
BOOOO
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AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512k L2 Cache, The Only 64-bit Windows Compatible Processor - Retail
Model#ADA3200AXBOX
Item # N82E16819103483
SpecificationModel: AMD Athlon 64 3200+Core: NewcastleOperating Frequency: 2.2GHzFSB: Integrated int chipCache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512KVoltage: 1.5VProcess: 0.13MicronSocket: Socket 754Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+Warranty: 3-year MFGPackaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
you're so much better off getting a 64 bit processor for the same price..
Don't get a socket 754... you kill all chances of upgrading your CPU later on without having to replace a ton of crap. AMD Athlon 3500+ w/ socket 939 and a MB that supports 939 so you won't have to build a new system next time you want to upgrade. It's probably an extra $75US or so but its' worth it.
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Thanks for the help guys. Also thanks for the heads up about the socket 939 Valarauk. I guess I'll do some more shopping around. I figured AMD athlon was better just wasn't as sure about them. I'll continue my search.
I'm havin a bit of a problem with my comp, nothin too serious, just annoying. If I need to reboot my machine for soem reason, if I dont let it rest for 5-10min before turning it back on, it will usually get to the scrren that says WinXP and had that little blue bar scrolling across, and freeze. Sometimes it will jsut take a really long time to get to the desktop, but once it does, it will freeze. I have also noticed some ocasional serious lag issues with offline games such as Doom3 and Warcraft 3. Any ideas what could be causing this? Too little/bad RAM?
Specs:
AMD Athlon 3200+
DFI Lanparty NFIIb
512Mb Corsair PC3200
GeForce FX5900XT 128Mb
120Gb Seagate SATA
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Also make sure your anti-virus software is up to date.
After you've got all these programs running and your system is relatively clean start disabling programs in your startup menu by removing them, start with those you have installed most recently (if the problem started recently). Reboot your machine after each removal and see if the problem goes away.
I had your same problem on my laptop earlier in the year and it ended up being a diagnostic program I got free with a copy of the WinXP official magazine (please don't ask why I even had one
). I got rid of the program and my system speeded up again.
Also be sure to defragment/cleanup when needed.
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Cool, I will do that. So you think it is likely not a hardware problem? I generally keep my systems defragged n whatnot, tho I recently ran Norton SpeedDisk on this particular system, do you know anything about this software?
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The fact that you sometimes have to let it "rest" for 5-10minutes made me think cooling problem initially but if that was the case the system should crash about the same time after you turn it on every time. I ran into a similar problem earlier in the year on my laptop and the steps in my last post fixed it for me. If those don't work maybe you should check to make sure all your fans including CPU fan are running normally. If you have the manual that came with your MB/CPU there should be something on fan operation levels. Also are you using AMD cool'n'quiet technology (or anything like that)? If so there's always the chance one of your tempature gauges isn't functioning properly and it's not giving your cooling system enough power.
Yes I'm somewhat familiar with programs like speeddisk/diskwarrior and they usually work pretty well for repairing crashed systems.
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I would aim a but higher,
Try going for atleast 2.2 ghz, and try a Pentium 4 prossesor
Atleast 512 RAM, what type you want is your choice, and what brand, DDR is the usual, but memory is very important, DDR2 works very good, also make that a 1 gb ram, and youv got your self a good memory, but 512 atleast, duel channel,
And the grapich card, no lower then 128 mb, and to get some decent experiecnce nothing tahts worse then a Geforce 5700 or a Radeon 9600, if you want your grapichcard, or GPU as its called, to be super, then aim for the Radeon X series or the nVIDIA 6000 series, the best cards right now are Ati Radeon X800 and nVIDIA 6800, a nVIDIA 6600 costs less then 200 dollars, and is a very good GPU, note that it only fits in PCIe Motherboard socklets.
Quick question. Im in the process of looking for a mobo, cpu, and video card. I'm looking at two options here.
First, Asus A8v deluxe 939 mobo with AMD Athlon 64 3000+ cpu. Since AMD compatible mobo's have AGP I was thinking the new XFX 6600gt.
Second, Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo A Lga 775 socket mobo with Intel P4 3Ghz cpu. Since board has PCI-e Im thinking a 6600gt card for PCI-e.
Now, what is gonna be better for gaming? Paticualry EQ2. I've heard that AMD cpu's are better for gaming but I also heard thet PCI-e video cards are like twice as good as AGP cards. What one will give me the better gaming experience? Thanks a ton for your help!
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Why does the chicken stalk me like that?
So would I be better of with the AMD processor and Agp card, or the intel cpu and PCI-e card?