Yeah but the average pc sold in stores doesn't even have the power of a 7900. That's what he is saying, you can buy parts and upgrade any PC to be more powerful than a PS3 as long as it supports an 8800 or better chipset. The problem is once you start doing this, the price goes up and to play ME3 at the highest visuals or a game like FO3 you're looking at paying at least 6-900 depending on the deals you find.
A 3-500 dollar pc with an added 20 dollar card will net you poor visuals, most of the time things like shadows bloom etc.. will have to be toned down or shut off to run at a decent pace, you're better off on a console.
I still think you're missing the point here, yes for those of us who build our own PC's we can find deals. The average person doesn't build their own PC they buy one that's pre-built. You're not going to find one with an 8800 (or can support it) for $355.
We're talking the average person here, not the tech oriented person who can build PC's. Heck most people are afraid to even open their case.
By the way you also missed an important feature, Windows....Add that and it's no longer $355 now is it LOL.
It's exactly where I was hinting at, around 500 bucks. Even then you're going to have issues running things like Shadows, Bloom, HDR, complex lighting, etc... On a console you get all the bells and whistles (albeit at a lower rez), for half the price.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Dual -core is close to being replaced. If you want longevity, don't get it.
Regardless of whether a person is a computer person or not, don't go running around telling them to buy this stuff. It will likely be out of date by the end of the year. Its time to get something better.
Yeah but the average pc sold in stores doesn't even have the power of a 7900. That's what he is saying, you can buy parts and upgrade any PC to be more powerful than a PS3 as long as it supports an 8800 or better chipset. The problem is once you start doing this, the price goes up and to play ME3 at the highest visuals or a game like FO3 you're looking at paying at least 6-900 depending on the deals you find.
A 3-500 dollar pc with an added 20 dollar card will net you poor visuals, most of the time things like shadows bloom etc.. will have to be toned down or shut off to run at a decent pace, you're better off on a console.
I still think you're missing the point here, yes for those of us who build our own PC's we can find deals. The average person doesn't build their own PC they buy one that's pre-built. You're not going to find one with an 8800 (or can support it) for $355.
We're talking the average person here, not the tech oriented person who can build PC's. Heck most people are afraid to even open their case.
By the way you also missed an important feature, Windows....Add that and it's no longer $355 now is it LOL.
It's exactly where I was hinting at, around 500 bucks. Even then you're going to have issues running things like Shadows, Bloom, HDR, complex lighting, etc... On a console you get all the bells and whistles (albeit at a lower rez), for half the price.
(for some reason I can't type outside quote box...)
You should recheck my post from earlier where I said that for an average person it is easier to buy, plaug and play a console then to build your own PC, so yes average person will probably go for console. It is and easier solution NOT better one. Also, I didn't disagree to PS3 being better than an average PC worldwide, I honestly don't know, but PS3 is 2006. which is an old technology in any case.
If I am not mistaken, you have supported the argument of other poster saying that PS3 is the best value for money option since PC rigs that outperform PS3 are in a much higer price range. So, I have posted PC specs to prove you wrong. I didn't spend much time but I could have easily get that lower to around $300, by just bidding for another 8800gtx on e-bay where price was at around $30 only or on 5-6 other active auctions there with prices just around $50 for same GPUs. Instead I went for buyout for $100. (Besides, 8800 GTX is so old that I couldn't find it on any online retail shop). Regarding windows, do you think that an average PC user that doesn't have enough money to upgared his/hers rig runs a legit version of windows on PC?
Have liked allot of what i have seen so far and looking forward to release. A couple of things that bug me tho are the models like allot of people have mentioned already, also and even more so the animation of the characters, they are not smooth flowing, they are clunky like they are skipping frames.
Fingers crossed that Bioware fix these things before release.
I love the look of it tbh. Not really into the whole realism thing. Maybe becuase its not and it never will be
Why try and push realism when it isn't real???
As long as it looks beautiful (which in my opinion it does, the scenery is amazing to look at) and I do like the clone wars type of feel to it.
Plus its an MMO, they do have to dumb the graphics down abit anyway. Not everyone can afford top of the range PC's.
What makes me laugh too is when people complain what the lightsabers look like! Jesus. I'm hoping the day when people forgot all about graphics because the game was epic come back.
Some of the prettiest games have had some of the worst gameplay.
Whilst I am not completley happy with what it looks like, its just because for the past few years I have been playing a totally different character appearance (one I am desperate to get away from.. yep.. WoW) and I am certainly not going to let that uncertainty stop me from trying this game.
Remember, watching combat is never the same as playing it, it might look weird from a viewing point but when your the one playing it, it could be epic. I am incredibly eager to find out and I hope it isnt added to the list of recent big names with failed games.
You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
Some of the prettiest games have had some of the worst gameplay.
Whilst I am not completley happy with what it looks like, its just because for the past few years I have been playing a totally different character appearance (one I am desperate to get away from.. yep.. WoW) and I am certainly not going to let that uncertainty stop me from trying this game.
Ummm anyone heard of AOC? Beautiful game. But to me the content was horrible. I'm a roleplayer and I found no roleplaying on Wiccana or any other servers like the RP/PVP ones. I found the gameplay drag and boring.
Graphics are only important to an EXTENT. I hate to say it but SWG graphics are now outdated but at the time they were simply beautiful. I hate to sound like a fangirl, but I am lol, it had the freedom to enjoy your "virtual" life that roleplayers loved about that game and I'm not even into starwars! I was recommended by a friend, tried it for a week and was hooked. Yes I left before the big change or whatever so I don't really understand when people talk about when it went "bad" I had to leave the game due to personal reasons.
All I know, is don't judge a game before it is released. So much can change in simply 2 weeks before release if they push it. I know I almost didn't play SWG, simply because I wasn't into star wars and I didn't think I'd like it. But you really got to try something out. Lately I've been MMO hopping but I hope that I stick to something long enough to like it for now. I don't think the graphics look half as bad as some of the games that people are still playing (everquest from back in the day my bf is addicted to it) and someday someones just going to get an MMO right like when they first made WOW.
Yup I said it WOW. It was fun for about 2 years for me, sure I got tired of it cause its very competitive when it comes to leveling and I'm a socializer not a PVP'er so its hard even on RP servers. But It does have its good points and that's why it got SO big and so large. People want fresh meat though. So just try it, and try not to judge. I know I did with SWG and that was my FAVORITE MMO. IT's why i'm excited to try this one out so much
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Could it be that the characters are mainly placeholders, and will be worked on as DX11 effects comes along, given those who have hi-end machines great result in the end. It would make sense to work on graphics last parts in the end before launch. I know I would, if I was a developer.
Age of Conan didn't look too great when looking at videos, but once you played the game, it looked quite alright, and I didn't even have a high-end back then.
I don't understand peoples' need to hate on a game that hasn't even been launched. Is it to protect yourselves from disappointment come launch? Well, I hope it works out for you.
When the enemy is driven back, we have failed, and when he is cut off, encircled and dispersed, we have succeeded.
STO, Warhammer, AOC, LOTRo, Aion, I was let down by all of them and several more smaller names to.
The main thing I badly want is a sci-fi game. I have EVE atm, but its not able to keep me going as long as WoW can (urf) and while I loved SWG, theres nobody on it anymore (I never played SWG before the big change). If you have a look at the full game list and order them by category, theres at least 5 times as many fantasy as there is sci-fi and they keep making more. Tbh sci-fi is better as they have much broader options when it comes to writing the story and implementing things such as crafting, weapons, armours and skills. Another thing that I love about sci-fi is quite a lot of them have some pieces of potential reality in them. Mass Effect probably having the most realistic story (just without the reapers). Yet every fantasy is just orcs, elves, animals-merged-with-humans and different sized humans running around hitting each other with swords, arrows and fireballs.
I sincerely hope that Bioware, one of my most respected companies, manages to exploit this giant gaping hole in the MMORPG market.
You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
STO, Warhammer, AOC, LOTRo, Aion, I was let down by all of them and several more smaller names to.
The main thing I badly want is a sci-fi game. I have EVE atm, but its not able to keep me going as long as WoW can (urf) and while I loved SWG, theres nobody on it anymore (I never played SWG before the big change). If you have a look at the full game list and order them by category, theres at least 5 times as many fantasy as there is sci-fi and they keep making more. Tbh sci-fi is better as they have much broader options when it comes to writing the story and implementing things such as crafting, weapons, armours and skills. Another thing that I love about sci-fi is quite a lot of them have some pieces of potential reality in them. Mass Effect probably having the most realistic story (just without the reapers). Yet every fantasy is just orcs, elves, animals-merged-with-humans and different sized humans running around hitting each other with swords, arrows and fireballs.
I sincerely hope that Bioware, one of my most respected companies, manages to exploit this giant gaping hole in the MMORPG market.
Mee too. IMO sci-fi > fantasy. This and the Warhammer 40kMMO are the only games I'm waiting for as I'm a sci-fi dood.
I just wished Tabula Rasa was supposed to be what Garriott had planned.
I reckon once you see some of these high definition videos of what it'll actually look like up and on your own machines, You'll realize its not badly designed, it's just a different style and you'll get used to it.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
I am really more concerned about the lack of class/profession variety than anything else. Really, a game this big with what only amounts to 4 class options really kind of sucks imo. I will get over the graphics, which are certainly more "Clone Warsy" than New Hope, but I can get past that if the meat of the game is decent.
If not, then meh, it will be a massive disappointment I guess, which seems to be nothing new in the MMO world.
I am really more concerned about the lack of class/profession variety than anything else. Really, a game this big with what only amounts to 4 class options really kind of sucks imo. I will get over the graphics, which are certainly more "Clone Warsy" than New Hope, but I can get past that if the meat of the game is decent.
If not, then meh, it will be a massive disappointment I guess, which seems to be nothing new in the MMO world.
There's eight classes.
No they aren't similair. Bounty hunter is not the opposite of the trooper, the jedi consular is not the opposite of the sith inquisitor. Telekinetic attacks with lightsaber abilities does not equal to acrobatic lightsaber abilities and command of force lightning attacks. You may think its similair, but it really isn't.
If I was to 'telekinetically' throw you up and down on the spot, then electricute you, you'd know the difference. One burns.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
I am really more concerned about the lack of class/profession variety than anything else. Really, a game this big with what only amounts to 4 class options really kind of sucks imo. I will get over the graphics, which are certainly more "Clone Warsy" than New Hope, but I can get past that if the meat of the game is decent.
If not, then meh, it will be a massive disappointment I guess, which seems to be nothing new in the MMO world.
There's eight classes.
No they aren't similair. Bounty hunter is not the opposite of the trooper, the jedi consular is not the opposite of the sith inquisitor. Telekinetic attacks with lightsaber abilities does not equal to acrobatic lightsaber abilities and command of force lightning attacks. You may think its similair, but it really isn't.
If I was to 'telekinetically' throw you up and down on the spot, then electricute you, you'd know the difference. One burns.
I will give you the 8 classes, but they are similar enough that a company dumping $150 million in development could come up with more variety in those 8 classes. Dont get me wrong, if the 8 classes work and are balanced, cool. If gameplay is fun, and dynamic, cool. If the storylines and pvp content work out, cool. If...etc etc. In the end, it will be a good game to me, in my opinion, or it won't.
And by the way, I think you will find a trooper and bounty hunter similar. They will have similar roles for their faction. Same with Agent and smuggler. I understand they have different pixels, and the like, but in the end, I expect playing one or the other will be a similar experience. If they don't fill the same roles, then there will be balance problems due to pvp. (which is actually why I dislike games be balanced so much around pvp, it tends to bork up pve play and vice versa).
I guess it doesnt really matter what any of us think. I just wish I didnt have to wait until next year to play, but if the game is good, it will be worth the wait.
To the OP. Not going to read through 16 pages of crap on both sides of the issue.
The art style is reminiscent of the animated series that have come out. Not a big fan of it at the start, kinda grew on my after a bit tho.
I will wait to pass judgement on it at the end. Art is one thing but, game play is another. AoC has great graphics and is awesome looking, LotR has great scenery and awfull looking characters, same as Vanguard and EQII.
I WANT to like AoC just, do not liek the combat model. The rest just are meh and do not grab my attention. CO has really good graphics as well and the game play is on par with it ( IMO, I know most do not share this opinion ). So, it really depends on how the game pulls me in. If they are keeping with the dynamic storyline in the game and also allowing ( this remains to be seen ) an independent feel to the character. Meaning it is not just a single player experience that you are on rails to complete with potentially a group of friends. It might be a really good game.
I understand your opinion tho. I often do not play eastern influenced art style games. The massive swords that look like a 40 foot razonr blade just do not do it for me either.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
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Originally posted by Saerain
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by Besttheiswow
How can GW 2 , FF14 look so good models, and swtor look pretty average and even bad? Its Bioware they should have what it takes to make animations and char models look as awsome as GW2.
They are doing Blizzard's thing - low specs to suit more PC owners.
So are Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV, they just didn't dump a toony art direction on top of the primitive graphics.
Guild Wars 2 looks pretty bland, definitely not worthy of being discussed in the same sentence as FF14. FF14 on the other hand is NOT dumbed down for your average PC. The game isn't being made with PCs in mind period, it's for the PS3 after all. And the PS3 on average, is significantly more powerful than your average computer. So neither of your points stand. GW2 is bleh, FF14 has awesome graphics because it's a PS3 game first. You people should be careful beating on those straw men like that, they may one day start beating back. While I won't disagree that PS3 might stand above average PC worldwide, I will just say that PS3, including any other console, can go hide in the corner comparing to my PC specs and graphics (and I don't own a beast really). Honestly, spending just about the same amount of money you would on PS3 you could as easily get a PC config that would go far beyond PS3 graphic perforamance capabilities. It is just easier to buy,plug and play a console than to spend time analyzing the best PC components before purchase, I know. But don't be delusional that you got the best deal out of it. Consols are not the best way to play games, they are just advertised so.
You're preaching to the choir. 3Ghz Dual Core, 8gb of ram, HD5870 here.
Well, if we want to go with stats, 10% of people who have used 3dmark have a 5870, like the above poster.
How likely are people with crappy PC's to test their score as opposed to say, people with high end machines? How many casual CS/MW2/WoW players actually care about things like that?
When you got all the good stuff, you obviously want to see just how good it is. I just bought a new PC few days ago, and of course one of the first things I dl'd was Unigine and 3D mark!
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
The graphics look okay to me.. but nothing special which is the problem. And by graphics I mean art design. I'm not someone who isn't having the game with the best "specs" and all that nonsense.. but I do like the game I play to have a style that pulls me into that world.. Guild Wars did... FFXI did... even WoW does I guess... but others there are nothing inspiried reallly.
And I"m sorry but the design of game is just as important as the gameplay... you're going to be looking at it more than you're going to play it.. it is ART though so it's all a matter of opinion... but it has to be easy on your eyes. If you don't like the design you probably wont like the gameplay.. not because it's bad but because it's not your idea of good.
The graphics look okay to me.. but nothing special which is the problem. And by graphics I mean art design. I'm not someone who isn't having the game with the best "specs" and all that nonsense.. but I do like the game I play to have a style that pulls me into that world.. Guild Wars did... FFXI did... even WoW does I guess... but others there are nothing inspiried reallly.
And I"m sorry but the design of game is just as important as the gameplay... you're going to be looking at it more than you're going to play it.. it is ART though so it's all a matter of opinion... but it has to be easy on your eyes. If you don't like the design you probably wont like the gameplay.. not because it's bad but because it's not your idea of good.
Except that graphics style is completely a personal opinion and you can't seriously think they will redesign EVERYTHING from scratch just to suit your anime, or childrens cartoon, style preference.
Personally, I like the graphics style that I've seen. It reminds me of KoToR I and II but its better.
Except that graphics style is completely a personal opinion and you can't seriously think they will redesign EVERYTHING from scratch just to suit your anime, or childrens cartoon, style preference.
Personally, I like the graphics style that I've seen. It reminds me of KoToR I and II but its better.
Graphic style is only a matter of preference but it's too bad even technically TOR falls short.
Oh well, at least it runs on my pc for sure.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
one thing overly dissapointing about this game so far is the look and feel from the gameplay.
Wow you're in the alpha testing? That's pretty cool. Didn't know that alpha was that bad. So how is working at Bioware? O wait... I am guessing you are making nonsensicle statements based on nothing you would have the ability judge for yourself besides video. Ok then, I guess I will bite on to your troll post, and simply state that the gameplay videos so far have actually been to my liking, and even what in game footage has been shown it looks astounding for its phase of development. Now again once the game is in open beta claims like yours will have a little bit more basis, but otherwise they are just empty claims.
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I still think you're missing the point here, yes for those of us who build our own PC's we can find deals. The average person doesn't build their own PC they buy one that's pre-built. You're not going to find one with an 8800 (or can support it) for $355.
We're talking the average person here, not the tech oriented person who can build PC's. Heck most people are afraid to even open their case.
By the way you also missed an important feature, Windows....Add that and it's no longer $355 now is it LOL.
It's exactly where I was hinting at, around 500 bucks. Even then you're going to have issues running things like Shadows, Bloom, HDR, complex lighting, etc... On a console you get all the bells and whistles (albeit at a lower rez), for half the price.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The 8800 is old now. Get something newer.
Dual -core is close to being replaced. If you want longevity, don't get it.
Regardless of whether a person is a computer person or not, don't go running around telling them to buy this stuff. It will likely be out of date by the end of the year. Its time to get something better.
Have liked allot of what i have seen so far and looking forward to release. A couple of things that bug me tho are the models like allot of people have mentioned already, also and even more so the animation of the characters, they are not smooth flowing, they are clunky like they are skipping frames.
Fingers crossed that Bioware fix these things before release.
Kezzbot heals Bioware for 10,000 points!
I love the look of it tbh. Not really into the whole realism thing. Maybe becuase its not and it never will be
Why try and push realism when it isn't real???
As long as it looks beautiful (which in my opinion it does, the scenery is amazing to look at) and I do like the clone wars type of feel to it.
Plus its an MMO, they do have to dumb the graphics down abit anyway. Not everyone can afford top of the range PC's.
What makes me laugh too is when people complain what the lightsabers look like! Jesus. I'm hoping the day when people forgot all about graphics because the game was epic come back.
Some of the prettiest games have had some of the worst gameplay.
Whilst I am not completley happy with what it looks like, its just because for the past few years I have been playing a totally different character appearance (one I am desperate to get away from.. yep.. WoW) and I am certainly not going to let that uncertainty stop me from trying this game.
Remember, watching combat is never the same as playing it, it might look weird from a viewing point but when your the one playing it, it could be epic. I am incredibly eager to find out and I hope it isnt added to the list of recent big names with failed games.
You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
Ummm anyone heard of AOC? Beautiful game. But to me the content was horrible. I'm a roleplayer and I found no roleplaying on Wiccana or any other servers like the RP/PVP ones. I found the gameplay drag and boring.
Graphics are only important to an EXTENT. I hate to say it but SWG graphics are now outdated but at the time they were simply beautiful. I hate to sound like a fangirl, but I am lol, it had the freedom to enjoy your "virtual" life that roleplayers loved about that game and I'm not even into starwars! I was recommended by a friend, tried it for a week and was hooked. Yes I left before the big change or whatever so I don't really understand when people talk about when it went "bad" I had to leave the game due to personal reasons.
All I know, is don't judge a game before it is released. So much can change in simply 2 weeks before release if they push it. I know I almost didn't play SWG, simply because I wasn't into star wars and I didn't think I'd like it. But you really got to try something out. Lately I've been MMO hopping but I hope that I stick to something long enough to like it for now. I don't think the graphics look half as bad as some of the games that people are still playing (everquest from back in the day my bf is addicted to it) and someday someones just going to get an MMO right like when they first made WOW.
Yup I said it WOW. It was fun for about 2 years for me, sure I got tired of it cause its very competitive when it comes to leveling and I'm a socializer not a PVP'er so its hard even on RP servers. But It does have its good points and that's why it got SO big and so large. People want fresh meat though. So just try it, and try not to judge. I know I did with SWG and that was my FAVORITE MMO. IT's why i'm excited to try this one out so much
[size=8]PLAYED: TSO, SWG, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, FFXII, AOC, AION, Guild Wars, Second Life
Waiting: SWTOR, FFXIV
Could it be that the characters are mainly placeholders, and will be worked on as DX11 effects comes along, given those who have hi-end machines great result in the end. It would make sense to work on graphics last parts in the end before launch. I know I would, if I was a developer.
Age of Conan didn't look too great when looking at videos, but once you played the game, it looked quite alright, and I didn't even have a high-end back then.
I don't understand peoples' need to hate on a game that hasn't even been launched. Is it to protect yourselves from disappointment come launch? Well, I hope it works out for you.
When the enemy is driven back, we have failed, and when he is cut off,
encircled and dispersed, we have succeeded.
STO, Warhammer, AOC, LOTRo, Aion, I was let down by all of them and several more smaller names to.
The main thing I badly want is a sci-fi game. I have EVE atm, but its not able to keep me going as long as WoW can (urf) and while I loved SWG, theres nobody on it anymore (I never played SWG before the big change). If you have a look at the full game list and order them by category, theres at least 5 times as many fantasy as there is sci-fi and they keep making more. Tbh sci-fi is better as they have much broader options when it comes to writing the story and implementing things such as crafting, weapons, armours and skills. Another thing that I love about sci-fi is quite a lot of them have some pieces of potential reality in them. Mass Effect probably having the most realistic story (just without the reapers). Yet every fantasy is just orcs, elves, animals-merged-with-humans and different sized humans running around hitting each other with swords, arrows and fireballs.
I sincerely hope that Bioware, one of my most respected companies, manages to exploit this giant gaping hole in the MMORPG market.
You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
Mee too. IMO sci-fi > fantasy. This and the Warhammer 40kMMO are the only games I'm waiting for as I'm a sci-fi dood.
I just wished Tabula Rasa was supposed to be what Garriott had planned.
I reckon once you see some of these high definition videos of what it'll actually look like up and on your own machines, You'll realize its not badly designed, it's just a different style and you'll get used to it.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
I am really more concerned about the lack of class/profession variety than anything else. Really, a game this big with what only amounts to 4 class options really kind of sucks imo. I will get over the graphics, which are certainly more "Clone Warsy" than New Hope, but I can get past that if the meat of the game is decent.
If not, then meh, it will be a massive disappointment I guess, which seems to be nothing new in the MMO world.
There's eight classes.
No they aren't similair. Bounty hunter is not the opposite of the trooper, the jedi consular is not the opposite of the sith inquisitor. Telekinetic attacks with lightsaber abilities does not equal to acrobatic lightsaber abilities and command of force lightning attacks. You may think its similair, but it really isn't.
If I was to 'telekinetically' throw you up and down on the spot, then electricute you, you'd know the difference. One burns.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
I will give you the 8 classes, but they are similar enough that a company dumping $150 million in development could come up with more variety in those 8 classes. Dont get me wrong, if the 8 classes work and are balanced, cool. If gameplay is fun, and dynamic, cool. If the storylines and pvp content work out, cool. If...etc etc. In the end, it will be a good game to me, in my opinion, or it won't.
And by the way, I think you will find a trooper and bounty hunter similar. They will have similar roles for their faction. Same with Agent and smuggler. I understand they have different pixels, and the like, but in the end, I expect playing one or the other will be a similar experience. If they don't fill the same roles, then there will be balance problems due to pvp. (which is actually why I dislike games be balanced so much around pvp, it tends to bork up pve play and vice versa).
I guess it doesnt really matter what any of us think. I just wish I didnt have to wait until next year to play, but if the game is good, it will be worth the wait.
To the OP. Not going to read through 16 pages of crap on both sides of the issue.
The art style is reminiscent of the animated series that have come out. Not a big fan of it at the start, kinda grew on my after a bit tho.
I will wait to pass judgement on it at the end. Art is one thing but, game play is another. AoC has great graphics and is awesome looking, LotR has great scenery and awfull looking characters, same as Vanguard and EQII.
I WANT to like AoC just, do not liek the combat model. The rest just are meh and do not grab my attention. CO has really good graphics as well and the game play is on par with it ( IMO, I know most do not share this opinion ). So, it really depends on how the game pulls me in. If they are keeping with the dynamic storyline in the game and also allowing ( this remains to be seen ) an independent feel to the character. Meaning it is not just a single player experience that you are on rails to complete with potentially a group of friends. It might be a really good game.
I understand your opinion tho. I often do not play eastern influenced art style games. The massive swords that look like a 40 foot razonr blade just do not do it for me either.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
They are doing Blizzard's thing - low specs to suit more PC owners.
So are Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV, they just didn't dump a toony art direction on top of the primitive graphics.
Guild Wars 2 looks pretty bland, definitely not worthy of being discussed in the same sentence as FF14.
FF14 on the other hand is NOT dumbed down for your average PC. The game isn't being made with PCs in mind period, it's for the PS3 after all.
And the PS3 on average, is significantly more powerful than your average computer.
So neither of your points stand. GW2 is bleh, FF14 has awesome graphics because it's a PS3 game first.
You people should be careful beating on those straw men like that, they may one day start beating back.
While I won't disagree that PS3 might stand above average PC worldwide, I will just say that PS3, including any other console, can go hide in the corner comparing to my PC specs and graphics (and I don't own a beast really). Honestly, spending just about the same amount of money you would on PS3 you could as easily get a PC config that would go far beyond PS3 graphic perforamance capabilities. It is just easier to buy,plug and play a console than to spend time analyzing the best PC components before purchase, I know. But don't be delusional that you got the best deal out of it. Consols are not the best way to play games, they are just advertised so.
You're preaching to the choir. 3Ghz Dual Core, 8gb of ram, HD5870 here.
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The cool thing is that 99% of the people with PC's have worse specs than you, so guess which gamer the companies cater their PC games to?
99% huh? Source?
Do you honestly need one?
Be it 99 or 93,457%, no matter. My point still stands.
Well, if we want to go with stats, 10% of people who have used 3dmark have a 5870, like the above poster.
How likely are people with crappy PC's to test their score as opposed to say, people with high end machines?
How many casual CS/MW2/WoW players actually care about things like that?
When you got all the good stuff, you obviously want to see just how good it is. I just bought a new PC few days ago, and of course one of the first things I dl'd was Unigine and 3D mark!
The graphics look okay to me.. but nothing special which is the problem. And by graphics I mean art design. I'm not someone who isn't having the game with the best "specs" and all that nonsense.. but I do like the game I play to have a style that pulls me into that world.. Guild Wars did... FFXI did... even WoW does I guess... but others there are nothing inspiried reallly.
And I"m sorry but the design of game is just as important as the gameplay... you're going to be looking at it more than you're going to play it.. it is ART though so it's all a matter of opinion... but it has to be easy on your eyes. If you don't like the design you probably wont like the gameplay.. not because it's bad but because it's not your idea of good.
Except that graphics style is completely a personal opinion and you can't seriously think they will redesign EVERYTHING from scratch just to suit your anime, or childrens cartoon, style preference.
Personally, I like the graphics style that I've seen. It reminds me of KoToR I and II but its better.
Graphic style is only a matter of preference but it's too bad even technically TOR falls short.
Oh well, at least it runs on my pc for sure.
Wow you're in the alpha testing? That's pretty cool. Didn't know that alpha was that bad. So how is working at Bioware? O wait... I am guessing you are making nonsensicle statements based on nothing you would have the ability judge for yourself besides video. Ok then, I guess I will bite on to your troll post, and simply state that the gameplay videos so far have actually been to my liking, and even what in game footage has been shown it looks astounding for its phase of development. Now again once the game is in open beta claims like yours will have a little bit more basis, but otherwise they are just empty claims.