I think of it this way, this will be one less person that I will have to read their spammed banter in the chat bar about how this game "sux" and why is anyone playing it. If all you care about is astetics and reaching end game as fast as you can then this game isnt for you. Dont buy it dont play it, " this is not the mmoRPG you are looking for". If you are looking for more story and immersive play instead of click quest and never even read it than give this one a try. I am sorry if this game for what ever reason doesnt appeal to you, but I just dont understand the need for endless rants based on opinions, instead of a constructive discussion.
If you are judging the graphics of this game based on gameplay videos on the TOR site, don't. Most of those are shown in low res and don't particularly look all that great. They look much better if you download and play them at high res. Yeah, I know, that's poor marketing on Biowares part.
Honestly, I don't think Bioware has ever been that great at marketing...other than just pumping out great games, of course. I guess it's pretty nice when you can let your reputation for great games speak for you. Still, they need to do a better job of marketing this monster, or EA does...one or the other.
Edit: As for the graphics, I've never cared for the cartoon style for a SW game, but as others have said, that's just the style. The actual graphics are actually quite crisp and clear, in other words quite good.
I think of it this way, this will be one less person that I will have to read their spammed banter in the chat bar about how this game "sux" and why is anyone playing it. If all you care about is astetics and reaching end game as fast as you can then this game isnt for you. Dont buy it dont play it, " this is not the mmoRPG you are looking for". If you are looking for more story and immersive play instead of click quest and never even read it than give this one a try. I am sorry if this game for what ever reason doesnt appeal to you, but I just dont understand the need for endless rants based on opinions, instead of a constructive discussion.
Funny but you never gave anything constructive in your own post, unless you consider "don't like it, don't play it" constructive. A discussion on graphics can be constructive.
I'll admit If this MMO did NOT have the Star Wars name, I'd think it belonged in 2003. The graphics are actually pretty good if it was 10 years ago, but even the original EQ had better looking graphics. With that said, I'm looking forward to how "fun" the gameplay is because I sure as heck won't be enjoying it for the graphics.. I still remember the screenshot of two guns that looked like hair dryers,, seriously, that is sad...
Rallithon Oakthornn (Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
I think, i can't remember where, but i think the devs said they were trying to go with the Kotor feel. so that way you would feel like you were playing a kotor game in an mmo world.
The graphics term they used was stylized realism.
Take from that what you will.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I think of it this way, this will be one less person that I will have to read their spammed banter in the chat bar about how this game "sux" and why is anyone playing it. If all you care about is astetics and reaching end game as fast as you can then this game isnt for you. Dont buy it dont play it, " this is not the mmoRPG you are looking for". If you are looking for more story and immersive play instead of click quest and never even read it than give this one a try. I am sorry if this game for what ever reason doesnt appeal to you, but I just dont understand the need for endless rants based on opinions, instead of a constructive discussion.
Funny but you never gave anything constructive in your own post, unless you consider "don't like it, don't play it" constructive. A discussion on graphics can be constructive.
Actually, if you read his post in contrast to the repeated troller he was replying to it is very constructive. Really though, telling someone that "Hey, this game is obviously not for you so just go away and let us enjoy it" is constructive in that is helps push away disruptive people that are not participating anything anyways. Most of us here don't have a problem with constructive criticism, it is the "Meh . . . BioWare" and little else that is NOT constructive and is in fact nothing more than trolling since it is designed to just piss people off without adding to the discussion.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I think of it this way, this will be one less person that I will have to read their spammed banter in the chat bar about how this game "sux" and why is anyone playing it. If all you care about is astetics and reaching end game as fast as you can then this game isnt for you. Dont buy it dont play it, " this is not the mmoRPG you are looking for". If you are looking for more story and immersive play instead of click quest and never even read it than give this one a try. I am sorry if this game for what ever reason doesnt appeal to you, but I just dont understand the need for endless rants based on opinions, instead of a constructive discussion.
Funny but you never gave anything constructive in your own post, unless you consider "don't like it, don't play it" constructive. A discussion on graphics can be constructive.
Actually, if you read his post in contrast to the repeated troller he was replying to it is very constructive. Really though, telling someone that "Hey, this game is obviously not for you so just go away and let us enjoy it" is constructive in that is helps push away disruptive people that are not participating anything anyways. Most of us here don't have a problem with constructive criticism, it is the "Meh . . . BioWare" and little else that is NOT constructive and is in fact nothing more than trolling since it is designed to just piss people off without adding to the discussion.
I see a discussion about the game graphics. You are telling me that telling someone to gtfo if he doesn't like a game's graphics is constructive? I'm sorry but this has been by far the least constructive post in this thread. Everyone is expressing his opinion here telling someone to leave just because you have a different opinion is far from constructive.
It really depends a lot on if the person is being reasonable saying they don't like the animations or that there are problems that may cause issues, or if someone just says the game will suck because the game looks like wow and therefore sucks.
One is reasonable and can be debated with and maybe even have a chance to change their mind (if you can provide the proof). While the other just wants to bash the game and try and make the game look bad.
the GTFO comment is basically towards the latter. they are hecklers plain and simple
Definition of HECKLE
transitive verb
: to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes :badger
It really depends a lot on if the person is being reasonable saying they don't like the animations or that there are problems that may cause issues, or if someone just says the game will suck because the game looks like wow and therefore sucks.
One is reasonable and can be debated with and maybe even have a chance to change their mind (if you can provide the proof). While the other just wants to bash the game and try and make the game look bad.
the GTFO comment is basically towards the latter. they are hecklers plain and simple
Definition of HECKLE
transitive verb
: to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes :badger
they sit on the side and say this is bad this sucks, this is wrong, this is too much like other games.
That definition is from merriam webster.
The best you can do for heckler is to ignore them or (incase of sports) eject them from the stadium aka tell them to go away.
I totally agree. This is what I think is the problem with these forums. A post from Rift..typical of the heckle that goes on here, similar to the context of this entire ridiculous thread.
"Thanks for having me. I promise not to turn rabid and come back here and bash RIFT.
Think it's safe to say, that with high quality graphics, comes much unwanted latency.
You confuse a low framerate with lag/latency.
Lag/latency: the amount of time that a signal requires from your computer to the game server.
FPS: How quickly your computer can calculate the stuff of the game.
Those are not directly connected. You can have a very high fps (good,) and a high latency (bad). The result would be a game where everything you do is delayed, but once executed it is displayed smoothly on your screen. You can also have a low fps (bad) and low latency (good). In that case, everything you want your char to do, that is done by your char only a fraction of a second later. However, the game seems to have the quality of a flip-book, or in the worst case of a slideshow.
FPS depends mostly on your computer. If your computer sucks, your FPS is bad. It also depends of course on how you set the graphics and how well the game is programmed. The latency depends on your internet connection, how powerful it is, and on the games servers. If you have a fine internet connection, then the only thing you can do to reduce lag is to make sure you ain't doing stuff like uploading files at the same time as you game.
I personally think that saying "we want the game to run on many machines" is a very poor excuse for bad graphics. Just create a game with awesome graphics, and let the user then adjust the graphics in the settings in such a way, that they fit to the power of the users machine. That way users with bad computers have a smooth framerate (with bad graphics), and users with powerful machines have great graphics and great framerates. Forcing everyone to have sucky graphics no matter what the users computer is capable of, is a joke.
I think many people are confusing an art style with bad graphics. What many people want is photo realism, which this game isn't shooting for. The graphics themselves look crisp and look good to me. Granted it isn't going to look completely human or perfectly realistic because that isn't the art style they are using, but the game does look good and miles ahead of a lot of other games.
Stylized realism just makes it so you don't have to look completely realistic, it avoids the problems of things looking odd if you mess up just a little bit.
If you try and go for realism and make it wrong (especially with human faces) it will look weird and akward, whereas with stylized you can be a little more creative with how you make your characters because your not restricted by it having to look like real life.
You can't say oh it's cartoon and sucks or it's stylized realism therefore it has bad graphics. your disputing art style not graphics. Art style does not equal bad graphics.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I think many people are confusing an art style with bad graphics. What many people want is photo realism, which this game isn't shooting for. The graphics themselves look crisp and look good to me. Granted it isn't going to look completely human or perfectly realistic because that isn't the art style they are using, but the game does look good and miles ahead of a lot of other games.
Stylized realism just makes it so you don't have to look completely realistic, it avoids the problems of things looking odd if you mess up just a little bit.
If you try and go for realism and make it wrong (especially with human faces) it will look weird and akward, whereas with stylized you can be a little more creative with how you make your characters because your not restricted by it having to look like real life.
You can't say oh it's cartoon and sucks or it's stylized realism therefore it has bad graphics. your disputing art style not graphics. Art style does not equal bad graphics.
I don't ask for photo realism. But there are several nice comic SW styles they could have used including the manga version that would have looked a lot better. Clone wars style kinda makes it look like a cartoon for 10 year old kids and that is the worst one of all SW styles I seen.
The graphics in itself is not that bad but what I seen from the lightsabers could be better. Of course could they actually work like they do in the movies as well.
But yes, art style is the worst thing I seen about the game so far. Taste of course differs, I don't like how the avatars look in LOTRO either (but I do funny enough like most of the rest).
Bad art is not the same thing as bad graphics. But TOR have in my opinion rather bad art.
I think the fact that SWTOR is potentially going to be a different kind of MMORPG due to its focus on voice acted story driven content makes it something to look forward to. Personally I'm not that into Star wars, I dig the original films of course but there has been such alot of total wretched crap under the starwars banner including the actual prequel movies that its not really a great reason to be excited for the game. A good reason to anticpate SWTOR is because of the name bioware.
As for graphics. they look pretty good, I agree that it hasnt blown me away but as we all know its all about the gameplay right?
I mean FF14 had beautifull graphics, and look how that turned out.
I think the fact that SWTOR is potentially going to be a different kind of MMORPG due to its focus on voice acted story driven content makes it something to look forward to. Personally I'm not that into Star wars, I dig the original films of course but there has been such alot of total wretched crap under the starwars banner including the actual prequel movies that its not really a great reason to be excited for the game. A good reason to anticpate SWTOR is because of the name bioware.
As for graphics. they look pretty good, I agree that it hasnt blown me away but as we all know its all about the gameplay right?
I mean FF14 had beautifull graphics, and look how that turned out.
You are right about FF XIV but voice overs just like graphics don't deliver 2 million players. TOR needs to be truly fun to play and that is something we don't know yet.
Most of us hope it really is fun but we will just have to wait and see.
And yes, Episode one sucks. Badly. If I see Jar jar or someone who looks like him (which I can't kill with the bounty hunter I plan to play) the game is on my naughty list and will be boycotted. That is my minimum requirement. No Jar jar.
If I see Jar jar or someone who looks like him (which I can't kill with the bounty hunter I plan to play) the game is on my naughty list and will be boycotted. That is my minimum requirement. No Jar jar.
Jar Jar will serve as a training dummy in the starting areas.
We're not excited about the Star Wars part of the game... We're excited about the BioWare part of the development. GTFO if you don't like it. You haven't even fucking played it yet. So why the hell would anyone care what you think?
I wasn't really crying and whining. But since you're so in love with the gameplay already anyone who even utters a word that sounds even remotely negative must sound like crying and whining, meaning get ur head out of ur a$$. I was only asking what other people felt about the graphics. If people like the "art style" well I can't really say sh*t about that can I? People keep saying I care about the gameplay not the graphics whah whah. Good gameplay is not even a question it should be just there. But graphics on the other hand should be an effort made.
I dunno, your post comes off more whiny to me then almost every other post in this thread. why do people like this game, its clearly bad like wow and it's lame and terrible why oh why do people like this game. try to imagine if you can (thats really trying to degrade other people, as if we can't see beyond star wars.) if it wasn't star wars, would you still like it? My answer yes, as star wars didn't bring me into the game. The idea of storytelling and the ability to choose them along with having companions did.
Maybe you were trying to ask a legimate question but the way it came off is, this game graphics suck and all you can see is star wars. Which is clearly not the case.
I"m sorry if you don't like debating but this is how it goes on this forum. We did answer your question in the first couple of posts, i stated i didn't mind the graphics themselves because i thought the art style they were going for was well done.
As for the gameplay argument, quite recently a lot of games have come out with horrible gameplay so it's not so much a given as you might think.
Also making the gameplay good does take some effort as well.
As for the remotely negative? no we can take criticism very well. it's just the blind attacks to the game we don't like. You don't like the graphics fine but your initial post came off as you acting superior to everyone else or crying that other people like this game.. Hint: people don't like it when you do that.
Finally the title: i'm sorry but when you say Graphics Sux and then go on to say they are terrible and the animations are bad without going into why, just makes me feel like you want to bash on the game. I could be wrong here, but thats how you came off to me.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Did anyone post how horrible the graphics look b/c it does. I mean out of all the highly anticipated games coming out soon, SWTOR looks the worst. Skill animations look also pretty lame. Comparing it to WOW's graphics, since it's so outdated now, I don't see that much of a difference. I mean other than it being Star Wars, I don't kno why so many people are so excited about this game, other than being Star Wars. Let's pretend this game wasn't Star Wars, would you be still so hyped about it. I kno hard it would be to forget the "Star Wars" part of it all but try very hard.
Insatiable One
Please less crying and whining, I'm not paying for your "Bitch Tax!"
If you don't like something about the game then don't play it.
Click the "Game List" tab and find a game that you will be happy with.
You fanbois should have something more to say than go away and play something else. Want a secret? Many people are dubious before forking out money for yet another MMO. Shooing them away won't do anything good to your SW:TOR.
If graphics is something holding you back then yes what else is there? for those who prefer Graphics over gameplay they have plenty of options like FFXIV for example. lol
Nope, I don't care much about graphics, I'm interested in gameplay. And I don't play Asian games like FF. To be honest SW:TOR community aka fanbois seem to be more awful than the game itself.
A rare sight to see someone actually critique a game on these boards, this was not one of them. This goes to show the lack of depth in this post from the start.
Wow Mr. Angry is very angry b/c apparently I didn't critique SWTOR on it's gameplay. The game isn't out yet Mr. Sensitive so I was judging the visual part of the game that we can say something about. "IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT DONT PLAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Thank you Mr. Obvious. That is all you can add. You're dismissed.
I dunno, your post comes off more whiny to me then almost every other post in this thread. why do people like this game, its clearly bad like wow and it's lame and terrible why oh why do people like this game. try to imagine if you can (thats really trying to degrade other people, as if we can't see beyond star wars.) if it wasn't star wars, would you still like it? My answer yes, as star wars didn't bring me into the game. The idea of storytelling and the ability to choose them along with having companions did.
Maybe you were trying to ask a legimate question but the way it came off is, this game graphics suck and all you can see is star wars. Which is clearly not the case.
I"m sorry if you don't like debating but this is how it goes on this forum. We did answer your question in the first couple of posts, i stated i didn't mind the graphics themselves because i thought the art style they were going for was well done.
As for the gameplay argument, quite recently a lot of games have come out with horrible gameplay so it's not so much a given as you might think.
Also making the gameplay good does take some effort as well.
As for the remotely negative? no we can take criticism very well. it's just the blind attacks to the game we don't like. You don't like the graphics fine but your initial post came off as you acting superior to everyone else or crying that other people like this game.. Hint: people don't like it when you do that.
Finally the title: i'm sorry but when you say Graphics Sux and then go on to say they are terrible and the animations are bad without going into why, just makes me feel like you want to bash on the game. I could be wrong here, but thats how you came off to me.
If you answered my question, thank you. That is all. Jesus Christ......
We're not excited about the Star Wars part of the game... We're excited about the BioWare part of the development. GTFO if you don't like it. You haven't even fucking played it yet. So why the hell would anyone care what you think?
ignoring rest, you are excited becouse of Bioware ? rofl, fanboizm at its best ... I love Star Wars, i played most Bioware games and liked them, but even combination of both them is soomehow not enough to get me excited about SW:TOR from what I have seen so far and art style might be one of the reasons.
We're not excited about the Star Wars part of the game... We're excited about the BioWare part of the development. GTFO if you don't like it. You haven't even fucking played it yet. So why the hell would anyone care what you think?
ignoring rest, you are excited becouse of Bioware ? rofl, fanboizm at its best ... I love Star Wars, i played most Bioware games and liked them, but even combination of both them is soomehow not enough to get me excited about SW:TOR from what I have seen so far and art style might be one of the reasons.
Yes it is quite possible. People are excited about GW2 because they know ANET is good developer. Same reason people got excited about FFXIV because SE was behind it. Even though they got burned. Another example..warhammer online lots of hype because of Mythic behind it. So why can't players be excited about SWTOR due to Biowares name attached to it? only because they never made a MMO before does not in any way counts them out a very talented and successful developer house.
Why everything has to boil down to being afanboy or hater? can't follow a simple logic?
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
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I think of it this way, this will be one less person that I will have to read their spammed banter in the chat bar about how this game "sux" and why is anyone playing it. If all you care about is astetics and reaching end game as fast as you can then this game isnt for you. Dont buy it dont play it, " this is not the mmoRPG you are looking for". If you are looking for more story and immersive play instead of click quest and never even read it than give this one a try. I am sorry if this game for what ever reason doesnt appeal to you, but I just dont understand the need for endless rants based on opinions, instead of a constructive discussion.
If you are judging the graphics of this game based on gameplay videos on the TOR site, don't. Most of those are shown in low res and don't particularly look all that great. They look much better if you download and play them at high res. Yeah, I know, that's poor marketing on Biowares part.
Honestly, I don't think Bioware has ever been that great at marketing...other than just pumping out great games, of course. I guess it's pretty nice when you can let your reputation for great games speak for you. Still, they need to do a better job of marketing this monster, or EA does...one or the other.
Edit: As for the graphics, I've never cared for the cartoon style for a SW game, but as others have said, that's just the style. The actual graphics are actually quite crisp and clear, in other words quite good.
Funny but you never gave anything constructive in your own post, unless you consider "don't like it, don't play it" constructive. A discussion on graphics can be constructive.
I'll admit If this MMO did NOT have the Star Wars name, I'd think it belonged in 2003. The graphics are actually pretty good if it was 10 years ago, but even the original EQ had better looking graphics.
With that said, I'm looking forward to how "fun" the gameplay is because I sure as heck won't be enjoying it for the graphics.. I still remember the screenshot of two guns that looked like hair dryers,, seriously, that is sad...
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
I think, i can't remember where, but i think the devs said they were trying to go with the Kotor feel. so that way you would feel like you were playing a kotor game in an mmo world.
The graphics term they used was stylized realism.
Take from that what you will.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Actually, if you read his post in contrast to the repeated troller he was replying to it is very constructive. Really though, telling someone that "Hey, this game is obviously not for you so just go away and let us enjoy it" is constructive in that is helps push away disruptive people that are not participating anything anyways. Most of us here don't have a problem with constructive criticism, it is the "Meh . . . BioWare" and little else that is NOT constructive and is in fact nothing more than trolling since it is designed to just piss people off without adding to the discussion.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I see a discussion about the game graphics. You are telling me that telling someone to gtfo if he doesn't like a game's graphics is constructive? I'm sorry but this has been by far the least constructive post in this thread. Everyone is expressing his opinion here telling someone to leave just because you have a different opinion is far from constructive.
It really depends a lot on if the person is being reasonable saying they don't like the animations or that there are problems that may cause issues, or if someone just says the game will suck because the game looks like wow and therefore sucks.
One is reasonable and can be debated with and maybe even have a chance to change their mind (if you can provide the proof). While the other just wants to bash the game and try and make the game look bad.
the GTFO comment is basically towards the latter. they are hecklers plain and simple
Definition of HECKLE
transitive verb
: to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes : badger
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they sit on the side and say this is bad this sucks, this is wrong, this is too much like other games.
That definition is from merriam webster.
The best you can do for heckler is to ignore them or (incase of sports) eject them from the stadium aka tell them to go away.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I totally agree. This is what I think is the problem with these forums. A post from Rift..typical of the heckle that goes on here, similar to the context of this entire ridiculous thread.
"Thanks for having me. I promise not to turn rabid and come back here and bash RIFT.
I will however bash SWTOR, every, chance, I GET!"
There Is Always Hope!
This game makes WoW look it's going for realism.
No one wants these graphics and they won't make the game run any better on low spec systems.
You confuse a low framerate with lag/latency.
Lag/latency: the amount of time that a signal requires from your computer to the game server.
FPS: How quickly your computer can calculate the stuff of the game.
Those are not directly connected. You can have a very high fps (good,) and a high latency (bad). The result would be a game where everything you do is delayed, but once executed it is displayed smoothly on your screen. You can also have a low fps (bad) and low latency (good). In that case, everything you want your char to do, that is done by your char only a fraction of a second later. However, the game seems to have the quality of a flip-book, or in the worst case of a slideshow.
FPS depends mostly on your computer. If your computer sucks, your FPS is bad. It also depends of course on how you set the graphics and how well the game is programmed. The latency depends on your internet connection, how powerful it is, and on the games servers. If you have a fine internet connection, then the only thing you can do to reduce lag is to make sure you ain't doing stuff like uploading files at the same time as you game.
I personally think that saying "we want the game to run on many machines" is a very poor excuse for bad graphics. Just create a game with awesome graphics, and let the user then adjust the graphics in the settings in such a way, that they fit to the power of the users machine. That way users with bad computers have a smooth framerate (with bad graphics), and users with powerful machines have great graphics and great framerates. Forcing everyone to have sucky graphics no matter what the users computer is capable of, is a joke.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
I think many people are confusing an art style with bad graphics. What many people want is photo realism, which this game isn't shooting for. The graphics themselves look crisp and look good to me. Granted it isn't going to look completely human or perfectly realistic because that isn't the art style they are using, but the game does look good and miles ahead of a lot of other games.
Stylized realism just makes it so you don't have to look completely realistic, it avoids the problems of things looking odd if you mess up just a little bit.
If you try and go for realism and make it wrong (especially with human faces) it will look weird and akward, whereas with stylized you can be a little more creative with how you make your characters because your not restricted by it having to look like real life.
You can't say oh it's cartoon and sucks or it's stylized realism therefore it has bad graphics. your disputing art style not graphics. Art style does not equal bad graphics.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I don't ask for photo realism. But there are several nice comic SW styles they could have used including the manga version that would have looked a lot better. Clone wars style kinda makes it look like a cartoon for 10 year old kids and that is the worst one of all SW styles I seen.
The graphics in itself is not that bad but what I seen from the lightsabers could be better. Of course could they actually work like they do in the movies as well.
But yes, art style is the worst thing I seen about the game so far. Taste of course differs, I don't like how the avatars look in LOTRO either (but I do funny enough like most of the rest).
Bad art is not the same thing as bad graphics. But TOR have in my opinion rather bad art.
I think the fact that SWTOR is potentially going to be a different kind of MMORPG due to its focus on voice acted story driven content makes it something to look forward to. Personally I'm not that into Star wars, I dig the original films of course but there has been such alot of total wretched crap under the starwars banner including the actual prequel movies that its not really a great reason to be excited for the game. A good reason to anticpate SWTOR is because of the name bioware.
As for graphics. they look pretty good, I agree that it hasnt blown me away but as we all know its all about the gameplay right?
I mean FF14 had beautifull graphics, and look how that turned out.
You are right about FF XIV but voice overs just like graphics don't deliver 2 million players. TOR needs to be truly fun to play and that is something we don't know yet.
Most of us hope it really is fun but we will just have to wait and see.
And yes, Episode one sucks. Badly. If I see Jar jar or someone who looks like him (which I can't kill with the bounty hunter I plan to play) the game is on my naughty list and will be boycotted. That is my minimum requirement. No Jar jar.
No. If that was true we would happily play with our PS1 even today.
Jar Jar will serve as a training dummy in the starting areas.
come on, thats precisely what people are doing these days. PSN is loaded with PS1 reboots and xbox live has some total gems on it
retro is back man, didnt you notice?.
Fail thread is fail.
We're not excited about the Star Wars part of the game... We're excited about the BioWare part of the development. GTFO if you don't like it. You haven't even fucking played it yet. So why the hell would anyone care what you think?
I wasn't really crying and whining. But since you're so in love with the gameplay already anyone who even utters a word that sounds even remotely negative must sound like crying and whining, meaning get ur head out of ur a$$. I was only asking what other people felt about the graphics. If people like the "art style" well I can't really say sh*t about that can I? People keep saying I care about the gameplay not the graphics whah whah. Good gameplay is not even a question it should be just there. But graphics on the other hand should be an effort made.
I dunno, your post comes off more whiny to me then almost every other post in this thread. why do people like this game, its clearly bad like wow and it's lame and terrible why oh why do people like this game. try to imagine if you can (thats really trying to degrade other people, as if we can't see beyond star wars.) if it wasn't star wars, would you still like it? My answer yes, as star wars didn't bring me into the game. The idea of storytelling and the ability to choose them along with having companions did.
Maybe you were trying to ask a legimate question but the way it came off is, this game graphics suck and all you can see is star wars. Which is clearly not the case.
I"m sorry if you don't like debating but this is how it goes on this forum. We did answer your question in the first couple of posts, i stated i didn't mind the graphics themselves because i thought the art style they were going for was well done.
As for the gameplay argument, quite recently a lot of games have come out with horrible gameplay so it's not so much a given as you might think.
Also making the gameplay good does take some effort as well.
As for the remotely negative? no we can take criticism very well. it's just the blind attacks to the game we don't like. You don't like the graphics fine but your initial post came off as you acting superior to everyone else or crying that other people like this game.. Hint: people don't like it when you do that.
Finally the title: i'm sorry but when you say Graphics Sux and then go on to say they are terrible and the animations are bad without going into why, just makes me feel like you want to bash on the game. I could be wrong here, but thats how you came off to me.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Wow Mr. Angry is very angry b/c apparently I didn't critique SWTOR on it's gameplay. The game isn't out yet Mr. Sensitive so I was judging the visual part of the game that we can say something about. "IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT DONT PLAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Thank you Mr. Obvious. That is all you can add. You're dismissed.
If you answered my question, thank you. That is all. Jesus Christ......
ignoring rest, you are excited becouse of Bioware ? rofl, fanboizm at its best ... I love Star Wars, i played most Bioware games and liked them, but even combination of both them is soomehow not enough to get me excited about SW:TOR from what I have seen so far and art style might be one of the reasons.
Yes it is quite possible. People are excited about GW2 because they know ANET is good developer. Same reason people got excited about FFXIV because SE was behind it. Even though they got burned. Another example..warhammer online lots of hype because of Mythic behind it. So why can't players be excited about SWTOR due to Biowares name attached to it? only because they never made a MMO before does not in any way counts them out a very talented and successful developer house.
Why everything has to boil down to being afanboy or hater? can't follow a simple logic?
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible