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  • EverithEverith Member CommonPosts: 482

    Lath as stated above this is not the case in game. You cannot be ganked during a cutscene. It is the poster exagerating a bit.

    To the posters about beta's the DC universe devs are on the forums directly commenting on peoples suggestions. We asked for more solo end game content they gave it. Fix to the social/chat. Next patch. Most of the patches before release are either dev fixes or community reccomended patches.

    The devs are listening closely to their community for once. Not saying it's all for the best but this is one beta that's being helped by SOME community assistance.

    If the OP would have posted a full detail of the incident on the Beta forums the devs i'm sure would have made a comment. Most posts usually get one or two. Or at the very least would have got some help from other players.

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  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,177

    Originally posted by Everith

    If the OP would have posted a full detail of the incident on the Beta forums the devs i'm sure would have made a comment. Most posts usually get one or two. Or at the very least would have got some help from other players.

    That's why he posted it here, because on the official forums trolling would be less tolerated and could risk his access to the beta.

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  • Cody1174Cody1174 Member Posts: 271

    Originally posted by Pocahinha

    When the game starts choose a PVE server, fixed.

    You got ganked because you made a mistake dont blame the ganker os the game..

    Normally I would agree, but getting ganked during the first cinematic of a new player zone is alittle much.  There needs to be a fix for that.

  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195

    It seems more and more people just play betas to have free access to a game they likely never intended to purchase or play for any period of time. I agree they are excellent ways to judge future interest but they are not for you to get a freebie. Like many have already stated...they are used to report problems and take feedback no matter how small . Some of the stuff I report may seem insignificant (almost anal..lol) but if I noticed an issue then I'm sure others will as well. I'm glad to do my part and contribute to a smooth, polished game at release.

    This game is excellent in my opinion and even on the PvP server I don't experience as much ganking as I had imagined. (Granted ..I'm not on there often, preferring the PvE myself.)

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    Choose the right type of server, if you chose a PvP server you should have expected to be ganked now and then.

    Also, if you're in the beta of a game you should at least try to report your experiences to the devs and do a bit more than just start and quit right after.

    Except if the game really is unplayable for you of course (in which case you should still report why that is the case).

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  • SarethxSarethx Member Posts: 4

    Started my toon on the PvP server as well.  Got ganked during combat for a mission.  Sucked it up and ran back to finish my mission and get my XP and reward.  It was enough to get to level 6.  Ran around looking for the ganker...found him/her and killed him in a fair 1vs1 match instead of getting owned while being stabbed in the back. 

    Conclusion: Suck it up.  If you are going to join a PvP server...expect to die.  It happens. 

  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    Now you've explained it i understand what you mean. When you start one of the races (little mini-games) you enter a little cinematic that shows you the first bit of the course before starting a countdown from 3. There are a few seconds where you are immobile. Since these are right across from the police station/nightclubs an easy fix would be to post a couple guards on that side of the road to protect you.

    Rather than rage quitting why not be useful and provide some feedback.

  • VanadromArdaVanadromArda Member Posts: 445

    Well glad to see the topic is still going strong. In reality, I'm still playing the game and enjoying it a good bit. The PS3 version of course is extremely buggy, and I'm taking good notes for that - and I rolled on the PVE server so I can actually play it. I tell ya, I don't see how the PVP server works - because both Heroes & VIllains share the same area objectives, it'll be chaos trying to get even simple tasks done.

    Just total chaos. Perhaps it may be fun, I dunno. But I'd certainly need a team mate or something to cover my rump if I get double teamed.

    All-in-all, the game is shaping up nicely and it's a pleasant surprise. I won't buy the PS3 version though, as it feels unstable and looks poor on Standard TVs. Hopefully that'll be ironed out with a bit more feedback from the PS3 testers.

  • GMan3GMan3 Member CommonPosts: 2,127

    Originally posted by Vyeth

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Point: I wnted to play a PVP server because I was told by the developers on their demonstration video I could 'flag it on and off', couldn't find it. I didn't wanna waste time finding it either. Since i couldn't shut it off, I decided it was a good example of a small hassel that'll reflect upon the rest of the game. If I had trouble finding something that should be so simple, I know I was going to encounter it many times over again in the future with other things. That is my first impression.

    You know that if you go to a fast food resturaunt and order a double CHEESEburger that you are going to get cheese?

    Yeah.. I was surprised myself..

    To be honest if i would have gotten killed like that I would have considered it Epic and it would have setup the rest of my beta experience trying to get that guy back for that.. Somehow.

     You would concider it "epic" to get killed while being forced to watch the cinemaics and had NO way of defending yourself?  Sorry, that is just lame.  Almost as lame as it is for someone to attack another person 10 levels lower than they are, again no chance to defend yourself.  If that is your definition of PVP then know that it is just pathetic.  PvP is when two nominally equal foes battle each other to see who the better toon is.  Anything else is just PATHETIC.

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  • lunatislunatis Member UncommonPosts: 261

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Point: I wnted to play a PVP server because I was told by the developers on their demonstration video I could 'flag it on and off', couldn't find it. I didn't wanna waste time finding it either. Since i couldn't shut it off, I decided it was a good example of a small hassel that'll reflect upon the rest of the game. If I had trouble finding something that should be so simple, I know I was going to encounter it many times over again in the future with other things. That is my first impression.

    That's a very childish reaction...

  • bbethelbbethel Member UncommonPosts: 201

    Not sure what you where doing. Watching a cinematic in the open world?

    I have been playing for 2 months mostly on PVP server and I have only seen movies after you finish a story line which is always in an instance.

    I also have found that most of the time people dont know how to play there class. So if you fight back you have a good chance to win even if you are lower lvl.

    There is a bunch of safe zones Police Stations (heroes) and Night Clubs (Villians) Also where you rez.

  • abyss610abyss610 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,131

    that was also a problem on the AoC servers but they eventually fixed it i think? getting ganked while in the little movie or talking to quest givers. i can't remember if they made it to where you can't attack the person at all or just made it against the rules to gank a defenseless player while they're talking to npc. since in aoc talkin to npc in itself was like a little scene where you was stuck.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    This thread made me laugh, thanks much OP.

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  • ianicusianicus Member UncommonPosts: 665



    Originally posted by lunatis


    Originally posted by OrleanKnight
    Point: I wnted to play a PVP server because I was told by the developers on their demonstration video I could 'flag it on and off', couldn't find it. I didn't wanna waste time finding it either. Since i couldn't shut it off, I decided it was a good example of a small hassel that'll reflect upon the rest of the game. If I had trouble finding something that should be so simple, I know I was going to encounter it many times over again in the future with other things. That is my first impression.

    That's a very childish reaction...

    gotta disagree with you there, in fact calling him childish, is childish in itself...Its pretty reasonable to expect that if a game is going to use cinematic events to explain quests and or missions, one should expect a certain level of safty while you are basicaly defenceless, this sint simple ganking, this is bad design.

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  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Member UncommonPosts: 335

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Just going by what I was told by a Dev video. So I was confused, that is a problem that DCUO needs to handle, now don't you think?

    So you just quit, without asking anyone or reading the forum? Is that how you handle most things in your life that you cant figure out right away?

  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Member UncommonPosts: 335

    Originally posted by ianicus

     






    Originally posted by lunatis






    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Point: I wnted to play a PVP server because I was told by the developers on their demonstration video I could 'flag it on and off', couldn't find it. I didn't wanna waste time finding it either. Since i couldn't shut it off, I decided it was a good example of a small hassel that'll reflect upon the rest of the game. If I had trouble finding something that should be so simple, I know I was going to encounter it many times over again in the future with other things. That is my first impression.






    That's a very childish reaction...



     

    gotta disagree with you there, in fact calling him childish, is childish in itself...

    He didnt actually call HIM childish, but rather his reaction. Speaking of which, you just did the very same thing...

  • xtoturnwithixtoturnwithi Member Posts: 136

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078

    Originally posted by xtoturnwithi

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

     Why should you have to play on a pve server to avoid poor design features?Hopefully this is just a 1 time occurence in a new zone rather than a you are vulnerable to attack with no way to do anything about it everytime and anytime the game sends you into a cutscene deal.AoC does that in FoTD also everytime you talk to a vendor/npc and it is lame there as well.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    It's a poor excuse for AoC, but people would run to NPCs in order to start a dialog that would make them gank-proof if they could. The same applies here.

    Really though, I think we should spend less time blaming SOE for allowing PvP on a PvP server, no matter how unfair it seems, and start putting the OP in check about what his expectations from a PvP server are in the first place. He could have played on another server, but instead he decided to ragequit because the PvP ruleset was "too hardcore" for him. It kills my inner child.

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  • duelkoreduelkore Member Posts: 228

    I do not believe the OP was ganked DURING a cinematic.  If this was this case, we would have heard about it from alot of people.  It is common practice to spawn camp people on any pvp server in any game.   Its considered common knowledge to flee the spawn as soon as possible for this exact reason  Most pvpers find the run from the spawn point part of the fun.   I think its more likely the OP was embarrassed and made the cinematic part up.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    Originally posted by Asheram

    Originally posted by xtoturnwithi


    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

     Why should you have to play on a pve server to avoid poor design features?Hopefully this is just a 1 time occurence in a new zone rather than a you are vulnerable to attack with no way to do anything about it everytime and anytime the game sends you into a cutscene deal.AoC does that in FoTD also everytime you talk to a vendor/npc and it is lame there as well.

     

    There is something you can do about it,  everytime,  if he was running a race then he is only immobilized for 3 seconds,  and that needs to be initiated.  Once you run the race once you have no reason to go back and do it again unless you failed getting the platinum medal.

     

    The point is,  its very rare for that to happen,  and it is a beta where they can fix this by exiting cutscenes on attack,  but most importantly  this guy would have quit if he had gotten ganked in the middle of a mission,  or if he instigated the fight and lost.  Thats what people that quit after one "bad" encounter,  that was entirely done by their choosing to interact with a system they didn't understand, do.  They quit.



  • dougmysticeydougmysticey Member Posts: 1,176

    Originally posted by Asheram

    Originally posted by xtoturnwithi

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

     Why should you have to play on a pve server to avoid poor design features?Hopefully this is just a 1 time occurence in a new zone rather than a you are vulnerable to attack with no way to do anything about it everytime and anytime the game sends you into a cutscene deal.AoC does that in FoTD also everytime you talk to a vendor/npc and it is lame there as well.

     As someone else pointed out though I don't see how he got killed during a cinimatic. Those only happen after defeating a boss in an instance. I have played PVP on PVE server and on PVP server and not really had that issue. I quite playing AOC PVP because this type of stuff was so rampant early on but DCOU has not really had any ganking or griefing problems for me.

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  • xtoturnwithixtoturnwithi Member Posts: 136

    Originally posted by Asheram

    Originally posted by xtoturnwithi

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

     Why should you have to play on a pve server to avoid poor design features?Hopefully this is just a 1 time occurence in a new zone rather than a you are vulnerable to attack with no way to do anything about it everytime and anytime the game sends you into a cutscene deal.AoC does that in FoTD also everytime you talk to a vendor/npc and it is lame there as well.

     I also dislike PvP, so I have added incentive to not roll on a server where it's not optional. I'm not interested in comparing peen size with strangers on the internet.  I have games that are solely for that purpose. I prefer to only PvE in games that are mostly PvE. I have Enemy Territory and that satisfies all my "let me try to make myself look better than strangers on the internet" needs.

  • xtoturnwithixtoturnwithi Member Posts: 136

    Originally posted by dougmysticey

    Originally posted by Asheram

    Originally posted by xtoturnwithi

    Originally posted by OrleanKnight

    Game was looking interesting, then I spawned outside the nooby zone, decided to try the acrobatics trial. During the little cinematic which told me where to go, I got ganked by a higher level hero. After that, I tried to find the 'de-flag' to turn off 'PVP' - couldn't find it. Quit. End of story.

    - Added

    I had better expectations of a PVP server, so that's just me. I'm not going to go into detail describing those expectations, then people who make comments toward that. So I chose a PVP server, which means I wanted to do PVP. But I didn't want to spawn at the nooby zone, get my ass beat down by someone whose been sitting their all day doing the same thing to other unexpected new players - who still have no idea what is going on - what the are around them actually entails - whether they should watch their back.. etc.

       I was very dissapointed which not just getting killed, but getting killed during a cinematic. Which means, that person was purposely camping THAT spot because because they knew for 100% that a person who stood there couldn't defend themelves.

       THAT of a HUGE flaw in the game, made me decide the entire game  wasn't worth my time or in the future, money.

     That actually sounds like typical PvP server behavior to me, which is why I don't play on them. Try playing on the PvE server and give the game another shot. I'm sure you'll find that without all the Peen V Peen croud, the game is sublime to play.

     Why should you have to play on a pve server to avoid poor design features?Hopefully this is just a 1 time occurence in a new zone rather than a you are vulnerable to attack with no way to do anything about it everytime and anytime the game sends you into a cutscene deal.AoC does that in FoTD also everytime you talk to a vendor/npc and it is lame there as well.

     As someone else pointed out though I don't see how he got killed during a cinimatic. Those only happen after defeating a boss in an instance. I have played PVP on PVE server and on PVP server and not really had that issue. I quite playing AOC PVP because this type of stuff was so rampant early on but DCOU has not really had any ganking or griefing problems for me.

     Not true, actually. The Booster Gold tours and Flash races include cinematics and actually take place while in the open game world. I got killed by one of Grodd's gorilla soldiers while doing Booster Gold's tour because of that.

  • VonambergVonamberg Member UncommonPosts: 16

    If your went to the beta forum you would find that /pvp turns the flag on and off. Only problem.... you cant turn the flag off in server 2, its pvp all the time. To get out of the videos hold down a key for a sec and it goes away.  Go to server 1 then you can pvp when you want.  Anyway DCUo is great it has restored my faith in SOE even after swg.

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