Yeah, looks like most EU retailers don't have any CE options yet.
I don't see a problem with the price. It's made up of production costs, plus taxes, plus overheads, plus profit percentage.
It's not a money-grab, it's a bling edition. It costs more to make, and therefore costs more to buy. Simple economics.
It NOT a money grab...?? LMAO
£129.99.
EA knows the rabid fanbase for this thing well, and it also gets that it has to make a stack of cash off initial box sales because a long term retention strategy won't return their inmvestment like they need it to.
£129 for the CE does seem expensive BUT if you break it down...
The Gentle Giant statue must be worth around £40, basing that cost on similar sized ones available on ebay, plus add to that the fact that it is exclusive to the CE.
The standard retail price of an mmo these days, at launch, is £39.99
So straight away thats 80 quid, I guess you could stretch the last £50 to cover the cost of The Journal of Master Gnost-Dura, the map and the authentication key.
Im not disagreeing that £129 is ALOT of money to fork out for a game, but if I had that laying around id sure as hell get it.
Having said that I think that £59.99 is way over priced for the digital only version, and charging an extra £5 for the priveledge of pre-order... c'mon.
£129 for the CE does seem expensive BUT if you break it down...
The Gentle Giant statue must be worth around £40, basing that cost on similar sized ones available on ebay, plus add to that the fact that it is exclusive to the CE.
The standard retail price of an mmo these days, at launch, is £39.99
So straight away thats 80 quid, I guess you could stretch the last £50 to cover the cost of The Journal of Master Gnost-Dura, the map and the authentication key.
Im not disagreeing that £129 is ALOT of money to fork out for a game, but if I had that laying around id sure as hell get it.
Having said that I think that £59.99 is way over priced for the digital only version, and charging an extra £5 for the priveledge of pre-order... c'mon.
The figure is made by a company called Gentle Giant. I've been told that these figures are extremely high quality, and probably costs 100 USD alone. If you think about it, it's not outragous at all.
Personally I don't really want to figure, but I want the soundtrack, and the other stuff ( authendicator) so I feel I need to get it, sigh!
As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Definately more money then sense. I think, people will only buy the CE for the Mouse Droid and the Unique Merchant, everything else is just fluff. I was expecting a better CE to be honest, being one of the biggest MMO/game to come out in a long while.
I don't see the issue here. It *is* a lot of money. It's a collector's edition. You're paying for a highly limited edition that will never be made again. It's a premium. If you consider yourself a collector, then you understand that you will pay the price.
Seems like most of the detractors just like to think that they are being ripped off, so that they can use it as more ammunition against a game they already hate, and won't play anyway.
The figure is made by a company called Gentle Giant. I've been told that these figures are extremely high quality, and probably costs 100 USD alone. If you think about it, it's not outragous at all.
Personally I don't really want to figure, but I want the soundtrack, and the other stuff ( authendicator) so I feel I need to get it, sigh!
The figure is made by a company called Gentle Giant. I've been told that these figures are extremely high quality, and probably costs 100 USD alone. If you think about it, it's not outragous at all.
Personally I don't really want to figure, but I want the soundtrack, and the other stuff ( authendicator) so I feel I need to get it, sigh!
Don't confuse selling price with cost. It might sell for 60-100, but its actual cost to produce is likely under 5.00, sort of like Coach purses the ladies like to buy aren't worth what people pay for them.
And in the end, that's what its all about, what people are willing to pay for a CE. EA obviously feels there's a market out there for this that will have no issue with the cost so why not charge what the market will bear?
I see CE purchasers even get their own cash shop to buy from, this title will be the first of many P2P titles that has all sorts of tricks to maximize it's revenue streams.
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As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Leaving the ridiculously over priced CE edition aside, for now, they are also charging £49.99 for the standard box through Origin.
Are you going to justify that as well?
All the signs point to EA understanding that this game, due to it's design and implementation, needs to recoup a ton of cash off it's initial box sales. I will let you all discuss why they think this. It is very much tied in to the fact they are not having a open beta so that folks cannot see the game before buying.
Actually, pre-painted figures and miniatures are not cheap to produce, even in China. There are also other factors, with regards to only the figure, such as licensing fees, distribution contracts, oh, and the none-too-small sums involved with shipping items from China to the West.
As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Leaving the ridiculously over priced CE edition aside, for now, they are also charging £49.99 for the standard box through Origin.
Are you going to justify that as well?
All the signs point to EA understanding that this game, due to it's design and implementation, needs to recoup a ton of cash off it's initial box sales. I will let you all discuss why they think this. It is very much tied in to the fact they are not having a open beta so that folks can see the game before buying.
FFS there is nothing over priced about the CE when the figure alone cost at retail value 100USD.
ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NOTHING OVER PRICED ABOUT THAT.
As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Leaving the ridiculously over priced CE edition aside, for now, they are also charging £49.99 for the standard box through Origin.
Are you going to justify that as well?
All the signs point to EA understanding that this game, due to it's design and implementation, needs to recoup a ton of cash off it's initial box sales. I will let you all discuss why they think this. It is very much tied in to the fact they are not having a open beta so that folks can see the game before buying.
FFS there is nothing over priced about the CE when the figure alone cost at retail value 100USD.
ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NOTHING OVER PRICED ABOUT THAT.
Read again. I was leaving the CE price aside. Your missing details in the red mist.
I am clearly talking about the standard box price here and how that is also stupidly over priced and inviting people to discuss why that is.
As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Leaving the ridiculously over priced CE edition aside, for now, they are also charging £49.99 for the standard box through Origin.
Are you going to justify that as well?
All the signs point to EA understanding that this game, due to it's design and implementation, needs to recoup a ton of cash off it's initial box sales. I will let you all discuss why they think this. It is very much tied in to the fact they are not having a open beta so that folks can see the game before buying.
FFS there is nothing over priced about the CE when the figure alone cost at retail value 100USD.
ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NOTHING OVER PRICED ABOUT THAT.
Read again. I was leaving the CE price aside. Your missing details in the red mist.
I am clearly talking about the standard box price here and how that is also stupidly over priced and inviting people to discuss why that is.
150 bucks is just insane for a game, and I don't think they offer enough stuff in the box to even justify half that price.
Then again, star wars fans seems to be slightly insane with buying plastic crap for a whole lot of money so maybe they know what they are doing. And I remember when I thought 10 bucks were too expensive for my original Boba fett figurine as a kid...
The figure is made by a company called Gentle Giant. I've been told that these figures are extremely high quality, and probably costs 100 USD alone. If you think about it, it's not outragous at all.
Personally I don't really want to figure, but I want the soundtrack, and the other stuff ( authendicator) so I feel I need to get it, sigh!
Don't confuse selling price with cost. It might sell for 60-100, but its actual cost to produce is likely under 5.00, sort of like Coach purses the ladies like to buy aren't worth what people pay for them.
And in the end, that's what its all about, what people are willing to pay for a CE. EA obviously feels there's a market out there for this that will have no issue with the cost so why not charge what the market will bear?
I see CE purchasers even get their own cash shop to buy from, this title will be the first of many P2P titles that has all sorts of tricks to maximize it's revenue streams.
Why are you speaking about this, like it's some sort of revelation? They are a company, of course they want to maximize revenue! Every company wants to do that! They are making a special version of the game for those Die-Hards. They still have the regular version, like any other game, for a standard price.
As for the cost - I don't work at GentleGiant, so I won't come with any assumptions about what manufacturing price, however if it is indeed sculptured and made of poly stone, then I think 5 USD is such a very bad guess at the price. I don't think 5 USD would even cover the paint job, let alone the stand!
Besides, it's against the point. The items value, is what was discussed. If we used your logic, games wouldn't be priced the way they are, due to the little manufacturing cost of a couple of DVDs and a box to put them in. It really doesn't hold water.
Just look at diamants - They are worth something because they are rare, and because amount is controlled. If diamants became available to all, they would loose value - It's called supply and demand.
the silly figure thay are adding is just to gouge the players even more. people are buying it for the game and maybe some in game items the map okay and authenticator, i expect 99% would skip the figure if they could get it cheaper yet bioware/la make it consumers only choice becuase they want the in game items and shop acess.
it really is a scam, becuase people or the vast majority of mmo players dont give a damn about the figurine, they just want in game stuff most of those figures going staright in the bin....i dont understand when i want to buy a deluxe or collectors edition of something say a book or a dvd it would be outrageous if they added 30-40% of price on top it by adding a figure thatprobaly only cost them 5% extra. and the music, again no one ill listen to it straight to bin, becuase they will be hearing that music non stop for next few months or weeks. an art book would have been much nicer but they figure3d could make some dough from that so sell it seperately heh.
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It NOT a money grab...?? LMAO
£129.99.
EA knows the rabid fanbase for this thing well, and it also gets that it has to make a stack of cash off initial box sales because a long term retention strategy won't return their inmvestment like they need it to.
Well.. every pre-order gets that item, I'll probably just end up pre-ordering a boxed copy (non-ce) off Amazon.
Oh, I'm sure it could be cheaper, but that's what they think it is worth. Don't like it? Don't buy. Also simple economics.
Yeah, a tinbox, some plastic figure and paperflyers. All that shit made in China costs maybe 10c/box, if even that. Totally not a moneygrab, LMFAO.
Love watching LA burn their fingers with this POS game.
£129 for the CE does seem expensive BUT if you break it down...
The Gentle Giant statue must be worth around £40, basing that cost on similar sized ones available on ebay, plus add to that the fact that it is exclusive to the CE.
The standard retail price of an mmo these days, at launch, is £39.99
So straight away thats 80 quid, I guess you could stretch the last £50 to cover the cost of The Journal of Master Gnost-Dura, the map and the authentication key.
Im not disagreeing that £129 is ALOT of money to fork out for a game, but if I had that laying around id sure as hell get it.
Having said that I think that £59.99 is way over priced for the digital only version, and charging an extra £5 for the priveledge of pre-order... c'mon.
Go look at what the price was for Halo:Reach Legendary Edition then come back.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
I didn't order the CE that said...
150 bucks is the average pricing for and CE game.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
And to think the idea was for free to play game lol the greed kicked in. That collector edition has nothing collectable just virtual crap.
oh, don't forget... £49.99 for the STANDARD edition via Origin
https://preorder.origin.com/?&locale=en_GB
I don't remember Steam ever charging me a £5 premium to use their service... in fact they usually save me money.
EA are such robbing bastards.
The figure is made by a company called Gentle Giant. I've been told that these figures are extremely high quality, and probably costs 100 USD alone. If you think about it, it's not outragous at all.
Personally I don't really want to figure, but I want the soundtrack, and the other stuff ( authendicator) so I feel I need to get it, sigh!
Hello, on amazon.de there is a pegi and a "normal" verison of SW-TOR. Can somebody tell me the difference? Is there any?
As has been explained in earlier threads, the reason for the costs is the statue, which by itself would cost something in the 60-70 dollar range. Also I don't see why anyone would think an MMO would be any different in terms of having a CE than any other type of game, that makes no sense at all. Most MMOs that have box sales also have a CE, it's nothing new. Also this is a Star Wars game, did you really expect anything Star Wars related wouldn't have a collectors edition? I mean seriously? Half the money Lucas Arts makes is from collector memorabilia. Nobody should be shocked or surprised by this.
Definately more money then sense. I think, people will only buy the CE for the Mouse Droid and the Unique Merchant, everything else is just fluff. I was expecting a better CE to be honest, being one of the biggest MMO/game to come out in a long while.
I don't see the issue here. It *is* a lot of money. It's a collector's edition. You're paying for a highly limited edition that will never be made again. It's a premium. If you consider yourself a collector, then you understand that you will pay the price.
Seems like most of the detractors just like to think that they are being ripped off, so that they can use it as more ammunition against a game they already hate, and won't play anyway.
http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/category_s/62.htm
IDK if this is what they mean by the statue figure but they are all well over 100$ if anything you should buy the CE and sell the figure for 50USD.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Don't confuse selling price with cost. It might sell for 60-100, but its actual cost to produce is likely under 5.00, sort of like Coach purses the ladies like to buy aren't worth what people pay for them.
And in the end, that's what its all about, what people are willing to pay for a CE. EA obviously feels there's a market out there for this that will have no issue with the cost so why not charge what the market will bear?
I see CE purchasers even get their own cash shop to buy from, this title will be the first of many P2P titles that has all sorts of tricks to maximize it's revenue streams.
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Leaving the ridiculously over priced CE edition aside, for now, they are also charging £49.99 for the standard box through Origin.
Are you going to justify that as well?
All the signs point to EA understanding that this game, due to it's design and implementation, needs to recoup a ton of cash off it's initial box sales. I will let you all discuss why they think this. It is very much tied in to the fact they are not having a open beta so that folks cannot see the game before buying.
Actually, pre-painted figures and miniatures are not cheap to produce, even in China. There are also other factors, with regards to only the figure, such as licensing fees, distribution contracts, oh, and the none-too-small sums involved with shipping items from China to the West.
FFS there is nothing over priced about the CE when the figure alone cost at retail value 100USD.
ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NOTHING OVER PRICED ABOUT THAT.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Oh bollocks to this. Each side can argue their pointless sides until three years after the friggin' game releases.
So in the spirit of gaming fellowship, Thursday Beers all round!!
Read again. I was leaving the CE price aside. Your missing details in the red mist.
I am clearly talking about the standard box price here and how that is also stupidly over priced and inviting people to discuss why that is.
Calm down.
60USD for a new game is over priced?
That is the average cost for a new game.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
150 bucks is just insane for a game, and I don't think they offer enough stuff in the box to even justify half that price.
Then again, star wars fans seems to be slightly insane with buying plastic crap for a whole lot of money so maybe they know what they are doing. And I remember when I thought 10 bucks were too expensive for my original Boba fett figurine as a kid...
Why are you speaking about this, like it's some sort of revelation? They are a company, of course they want to maximize revenue! Every company wants to do that! They are making a special version of the game for those Die-Hards. They still have the regular version, like any other game, for a standard price.
As for the cost - I don't work at GentleGiant, so I won't come with any assumptions about what manufacturing price, however if it is indeed sculptured and made of poly stone, then I think 5 USD is such a very bad guess at the price. I don't think 5 USD would even cover the paint job, let alone the stand!
Besides, it's against the point. The items value, is what was discussed. If we used your logic, games wouldn't be priced the way they are, due to the little manufacturing cost of a couple of DVDs and a box to put them in. It really doesn't hold water.
Just look at diamants - They are worth something because they are rare, and because amount is controlled. If diamants became available to all, they would loose value - It's called supply and demand.
the silly figure thay are adding is just to gouge the players even more. people are buying it for the game and maybe some in game items the map okay and authenticator, i expect 99% would skip the figure if they could get it cheaper yet bioware/la make it consumers only choice becuase they want the in game items and shop acess.
it really is a scam, becuase people or the vast majority of mmo players dont give a damn about the figurine, they just want in game stuff most of those figures going staright in the bin....i dont understand when i want to buy a deluxe or collectors edition of something say a book or a dvd it would be outrageous if they added 30-40% of price on top it by adding a figure thatprobaly only cost them 5% extra. and the music, again no one ill listen to it straight to bin, becuase they will be hearing that music non stop for next few months or weeks. an art book would have been much nicer but they figure3d could make some dough from that so sell it seperately heh.