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Wolf parts, meet harpy glands.
No wolf parts in the video.
Um whaaa? Wolf pelts were never mentioned in the maifesto. You didn't address it because you chose not to, not because it was subjective or flawed, Maybe you are mixing up your arguments in your circular logic?
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
This reminds me of the video where there is severe lag, and some people claiming it didn't look laggy at all... when the screen is at like 5 fps lol.
You get manifesto proof, then you just deny it is there.... absolutely fantastic!
Personal attacks? Lol. It's a fact that you're a horrible poster. There's no getting around it.
Ya see, you misunderstand me. You're wrong with the context in which you deliver information. That has always been your downfall just like it is here. As for me winning the argument. I won this same exact argument months ago. Everyone else is winning in this thread. You make arguments that are irrelevant to the point you're trying to make which is "GW2 is the same as other MMOs". You try to simplify it down to its core(an MMO) to make your argument an actual viable one.
Your argument will never be viable.
GW2 is an MMO. That's your pathetic argument. Seriously. That's what it always has been. You try to cover it up but it doesn't work with me because my personality is quite similar to yours. The only difference is that I don't lose arguments because I know what I'm talking about. Threads like these are your stomping grounds. That's why you started defending the OP anyway, because it gives you a chance to start making stupid points. I've got you down to a tee because you're predictable and so are your arguments. You want me to win this argument? Here, let me point you to the numerous posts replying to you. Game, set, and match.
You keep feeling special Robert. Stay losing.
Um I don't think so... I doubt they would delay it until next fall it'll be very end of 2011 or the First Quarter of 2012, delaying it that long would not be good for the game. Considering we only need one more class and dungeons reveals they could easily start open beta testing this year.
Note: Not trying to troll or anything just my opinion, and if I'm wrong with anything I would like to be corrected! Just saying a year and half is WAAAYYY to long I don't think Anet would do that. Also I'd like to note that I respect you as a poster very much and you seem very informed about Guild Wars 2.
I assure you MY coverage of the manifesto wasn't subjective and flawed, which, btw, you also never responded to.
Can you link for us please where they said there would be no collections?
Also, can you link a laggy Shatterer video? Can you link anything that backs up anything you're saying?
You're really grasping here. Nobody is buying what you're selling.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Can you please actually construct a rational argument, the personal attacks are so boring to me, and the misconstruing of what i've said and biased assumptions.
Do you actually have anything of substance? Or is this all you can muster up in your existence?
Just wow. I am afraid to say any more than has been for fear of moderator intervention again. umm yeah. Kinda like arguing with a wall.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
Originally posted by someforumguy
From last August when the encounter he's talking about, it will be about a year and a half until release. All our best indications say early 2012.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Basically yes! The Dynamic Event is just another name for generic MMO-quests?So what? Really, there were several of us who figured that was the case when they first announced dynamic events. They are essentially GW's version of daily quests. The difference has only ever been that they can't "fail" and that each event leads to a different one and that they can alter the world depending on what happens. In the end, will dynamic events turn Tyria into a fantasy world simulator? Of course not, that would take an army of designers like 20 years to make.
The only difference Anet is trying to make is that the events respond to you. Ree Soesbee states it directly "The boss you killed respawns 10 minutes later. It doesn't care that I'm there." You kill the invading army and take out their base and then they aren't invading anymore. In other MMOs you get a quest to kill 30 of them and place fire on the buildings in their base, but 10 seconds later the fire is out and the army is still attacking. However, the quest text still tells you "thank you for stopping the army", even though the world does not reflect that at all. THAT is what Anet is combating with dynamic events, nothing else. And to prevent quest kill competition and get random people to play together with minimal effort.
If you feel "bad" about this quest( Collecting Harpi in any way, read the following piece to get yourself in a good mood:
"Some events are triggered by players, and are almost Easter-eggy. There’s one where if players kill the deer in the forest then one of the predators who are used to feeding on
the deer will come out and attack one of the villages. That’s not going to happen unless players are active in the area. Just by the actions, or the times of day, whether it’s day, whether it’s night, whether players were defeated at certain events… there’s lots of things which can happen in an area. Our game is really pretty dense with content. That’s the key. Things constantly changing. A world that feels like it’s alive. You never know what’s around the next corner. That way we can help the game not static, not fall into the particular rhythm."
~The only opinion that matters is your own.Everything else is just advice,~
I assure you that it was. But that's the diff between unbiased mmo followers and biased ones. Unbiased ones go by facts, biased ones deny the existence of exclamation marks, event helpers, server lag, harpy glands, and manifesto statements.
Yes several of us figured that to be the case, and then a plethora of gw2 fans don't understand that and are claiming gw2 is groundbreaking and revolutionary.... zzzzzz
It's sorta like how trion worlds took rift's soul system, which is basically like a talent tree system without initial base class abilities, and claimed it to be ground breaking.
Ah okay wasn't sure what he was talking about I thought you meant next fall lol!
Im glad you chose to be honest in saying that backing up your claim is a waste of time. Im in awe how you managed to elevate your baseless claim (which seems to slowly change over the course of this thread) about the manifesto into a hard fact (even though its only recognised by you..meh, details). Simply by repeating it again and again. And when you demand proof! and statements being backed up by evidence!, and when they are handed to you, you simply dismiss as meaningless opinions. Brilliant!
Disruptive as always, but nevertheless brilliant. You convinced me anyway. Well, you convinced me that you can troll any thread into oblivion simply by spinning almost every single post untill others become sick and tired of you.
My argument is completely rational. More rational than yours that's for sure. You have nothing of substance as proven by your posts themselves. You muster up the same crap you have for the past year ever since the GW2 manifesto trailer came out.
What I'm saying isn't rational to you because you refuse to believe it. But that doesn't make it any less the truth. By the way, I'm not personally attacking you. I'm actually attacking the way you post which is laughably awful. Saying that you're bored(of contexts that aren't actually there in the first place) doesn't help you. It just makes your posts look more laughable.
What you are saying isn't rational because you are resorting to personal attacks because someone has completely destroyed your level of thinking.
Sorry, anytime you resort to personal attacks you've already lost, it is the sign of a defeated poster, because it is basically admitting you can't outmaneuver someone argumentatively.
Let's see 24 pages of posts. RobertDinh calls us all biased fools and we feed him his self worth. Really folks stop feeding the troll! Set him to block and please move on otherwise there will be multiple threads of nothing BUT this foolishness. @Robert, we get it we are blinded by the hype! That apparently makes us suck. There you win. How about leaving now?
I wish I could say I was spinning the facts that there are exclamation marks, event helpers, server lag, and harpy gland collection quests. I WISH that wasn't true for gw2.
I'm not personally attacking you. Lol. Fact. I'm attacking your way of posting. Oh wait, do you take what I say about your posts personally? Well that just proves your weak minded right there. Thanks for clarifying Robert.
It's only a personal attack if you're offended. Which I never attempted to offend you, but if it did, well that's your own fault.
Please leave the personal attacks out of this, whether directed at me or yourself.
Wait is my way of posting weakminded or is that a personal attack, this is all very confusing to me. Jk you are boring me with your personal attacks.
And no it isn't just a personal attack if you offend someone, an attack can be an attack whether it works or not.
Speaking of exclamation marks, I'm still waiting for you to provide proof that they are in game.
I would never claim you are spinning the facts. To be able to do that you first need to know what the facts are. I would never accuse you of such a thing!