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  • FuryVFuryV Member UncommonPosts: 515

    Tbh, that's great, I'm really happy about this.  Not every single MMO that will be released is going to be a failure, which seems to be the cool thing to announce around here.

    I'm hyped about TERA, and even if it keeps me busy until GW2 comes out, I'll be content with that.  I just wish people would give it a decent chance, I really do.

  • FuryVFuryV Member UncommonPosts: 515

    EDIT: **Double Post**

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    He said "prefer" so I hope the poor guy doesn't get attacked for his "preference".

  • FeudalismFeudalism Member UncommonPosts: 67

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    If I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.



    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.

    Action games having animation lock is a staple. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

  • Reas43Reas43 Member Posts: 297

    I think you only played a caster at the low levels, because that's the same impression I got.  But as melee there's no such thing, its really feels like you are right in weaving in and out.  Which is why I didnt go for Sorc. 

     

    For Priests they say you have to keep moving but I haven't tried it.  Mystic was kinda fun and was attracted to it because I read it becomes highly mobile with instant casts and DoT's at higher levels (and their Blink dodge move was pretty sweet).

  • FeudalismFeudalism Member UncommonPosts: 67

    Originally posted by NBlitz

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    If I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.




    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.

    Action games having animation lock is a staple. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

    You may be right for the PvE in GW2; it's hard to say how challenging it will be with such freedom of movement. Where it does shine imo though is in PvP. I see GW2 having a lot more potential of a higher skill cap than Tera since movement is free and gear is not as much of a deciding factor.

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    Originally posted by NBlitz

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    If I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.




    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.

    Action games having animation lock is a staple. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

    Watching PvP in MMORPGs always reminded me of that youtube video of the fat kid swinging a lightsaber.  Always felt as if the melee fighting at least looked exactly like that.

    In that respect, I don't mind the animation lock, though it is frustrating when attempting to kite something.

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Tinfoil hat off please, thanks. It's easy seeing it's En Masse. They're on the ball with the social media. They even have one of their own "Scapes" over on /r/teraonline and I'm there too. I have nothing better to do (like Scapes or someone else hired) so I keep checking /r/teraonline and I saw the post with the link to the tweet.

    Easy, fast, no conspiracy theory.

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Same thing can be said about GW2, lol you like it more. To me GW2 has no feature I like. DE? I don't give a shit about PvE beside my dungeons, tab-target? tired of it already. Moving while casting? Thats i think is the thing that makes tab targetting even more boring when you kill any risk elements in using powerful kills. Dodge? O ya add a dodge skill exect you know what? In Tera i can dodge by just moving =O.

    O ya and its not fishy that NCSoft pushes GW2 beta on top of Tera head start? And now every other site hype up a game almost no one has played?

     

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Conspiracy theories aside, a large part of the article did deal with a system that isnt even in the game yet and no one knows what kind of impact it will have.  And how many people will care.  These things remain to be seen.  It seems silly devoting nearly half the article to an untested future update.

     

    But of course some people will prefer TERA to GW2.  Theres no question TERA will have its audience.  Be nice when GW2 is out so we can stop SWTOR vs GW2, TERA vs GW2, and coming soon TSW vs GW2 and MoP vs GW2.

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by teakbois

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Conspiracy theories aside, a large part of the article did deal with a system that isnt even in the game yet and no one knows what kind of impact it will have.  And how many people will care.  These things remain to be seen.  It seems silly devoting nearly half the article to an untested future update.

     

    But of course some people will prefer TERA to GW2.  Theres no question TERA will have its audience.  Be nice when GW2 is out so we can stop SWTOR vs GW2, TERA vs GW2, and coming soon TSW vs GW2 and MoP vs GW2.



    The political system IS in the game, it's just end-game content.  Just because players are low level and not able to use the system right now does not mean its not in the game.

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  • MeltdownMeltdown Member UncommonPosts: 1,183

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Watching PvP in MMORPGs always reminded me of that youtube video of the fat kid swinging a lightsaber.  Always felt as if the melee fighting at least looked exactly like that.

    In that respect, I don't mind the animation lock, though it is frustrating when attempting to kite something.

    Reminds me of a Slayer who attacked me during the Beta, he must've been lagging bad cause he was in the middle of nowhere swinging his sword around and that stupid fat kid was the first things I thought of, too funny.

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  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by teakbois

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Conspiracy theories aside, a large part of the article did deal with a system that isnt even in the game yet and no one knows what kind of impact it will have.  And how many people will care.  These things remain to be seen.  It seems silly devoting nearly half the article to an untested future update.

     

    But of course some people will prefer TERA to GW2.  Theres no question TERA will have its audience.  Be nice when GW2 is out so we can stop SWTOR vs GW2, TERA vs GW2, and coming soon TSW vs GW2 and MoP vs GW2.

    That would be lovely, yes :)

  • MavacarMavacar Member Posts: 328

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Same thing can be said about GW2, lol you like it more. To me GW2 has no feature I like. DE? I don't give a shit about PvE beside my dungeons, tab-target? tired of it already. Moving while casting? Thats i think is the thing that makes tab targetting even more boring when you kill any risk elements in using powerful kills. Dodge? O ya add a dodge skill exect you know what? In Tera i can dodge by just moving =O.

    O ya and its not fishy that NCSoft pushes GW2 beta on top of Tera head start? And now every other site hype up a game almost no one has played?

    I hardly think NCSoft cares much of Teras head start. The people who bought Tera will play Tera and people pre-purchasing Gw2 will play Gw2, the people between will probably play both.

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by Mavacar

    Originally posted by rexzshadow


    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Same thing can be said about GW2, lol you like it more. To me GW2 has no feature I like. DE? I don't give a shit about PvE beside my dungeons, tab-target? tired of it already. Moving while casting? Thats i think is the thing that makes tab targetting even more boring when you kill any risk elements in using powerful kills. Dodge? O ya add a dodge skill exect you know what? In Tera i can dodge by just moving =O.

    O ya and its not fishy that NCSoft pushes GW2 beta on top of Tera head start? And now every other site hype up a game almost no one has played?

    I hardly think NCSoft cares much of Teras head start. The people who bought Tera will play Tera and people pre-purchasing Gw2 will play Gw2, the people between will probably play both.

    Oh, I disagree.  i think NCSoft cares very much, if only out of revenge.  IF you felt someone stole your property and was going to use it against you wouldnt you want to see them fail?

     

    (not really trying to open that can of worms, but yes...NCSoft does want TERA to fail, I wouldnt doubt that at all)

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by teakbois

    Originally posted by Mavacar

    I hardly think NCSoft cares much of Teras head start. The people who bought Tera will play Tera and people pre-purchasing Gw2 will play Gw2, the people between will probably play both.

    Oh, I disagree.  i think NCSoft cares very much, if only out of revenge.  IF you felt someone stole your property and was going to use it against you wouldnt you want to see them fail?

     

    (not really trying to open that can of worms, but yes...NCSoft does want TERA to fail, I wouldnt doubt that at all)

    Pretty much, NCSoft sue EME right as they announced their lauch date, and put GW2 pre-order and beta right on top of Tera OBT and head start.

  • MavacarMavacar Member Posts: 328

    Originally posted by teakbois

    Originally posted by Mavacar


    Originally posted by rexzshadow


    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    Same thing can be said about GW2, lol you like it more. To me GW2 has no feature I like. DE? I don't give a shit about PvE beside my dungeons, tab-target? tired of it already. Moving while casting? Thats i think is the thing that makes tab targetting even more boring when you kill any risk elements in using powerful kills. Dodge? O ya add a dodge skill exect you know what? In Tera i can dodge by just moving =O.

    O ya and its not fishy that NCSoft pushes GW2 beta on top of Tera head start? And now every other site hype up a game almost no one has played?

    I hardly think NCSoft cares much of Teras head start. The people who bought Tera will play Tera and people pre-purchasing Gw2 will play Gw2, the people between will probably play both.

    Oh, I disagree.  i think NCSoft cares very much, if only out of revenge.  IF you felt someone stole your property and was going to use it against you wouldnt you want to see them fail?

    (not really trying to open that can of worms, but yes...NCSoft does want TERA to fail, I wouldnt doubt that at all)

    Oh yeah good point I forgot about the lawsuit I was just thinking of player numbers, then absolutely good point.

  • NephaeriusNephaerius Member UncommonPosts: 1,671

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by NBlitz

    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    If I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.




    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.

    Action games having animation lock is a staple. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

    Watching PvP in MMORPGs always reminded me of that youtube video of the fat kid swinging a lightsaber.  Always felt as if the melee fighting at least looked exactly like that.

    In that respect, I don't mind the animation lock, though it is frustrating when attempting to kite something.

     Anyone remember Aion?  Yeah the animation lock killed PvP long before any of the other issues.

    Gladiator: "I'm gonna hit you with mah big dmg move Sorc! As soon as I finish this 1.5 sec animation!  Oh you're out of range now and I miss....."

    I haven't played TERA so I have no idea if this will be an issue for them.  I have no interest in the game and I'm not bashing it just pointing out that the same thing existed in Aion and basically ruined and continues to ruin PvP to this day.

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  • Rommie10-284Rommie10-284 Member UncommonPosts: 265

    It would be interesting if both games are successful and both developers hate each other - maybe it would improve the end product of updates if they are trying to one-up the other all the time.  I don't think Tera has enough juice to really match up with GW2, but anything that might improve the developer mismanagement of games is a positive.

    EDIT: I forgot that NCSoft is only publishing GW2.  Any feudin' would involve Aion more than Guild Wars, and Tera can hold its own in that fight.

     

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  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by stayontarget



    The political system IS in the game, it's just end-game content.  Just because players are low level and not able to use the system right now does not mean its not in the game.

    I stand corrected then.  I know the Nexus stuff got patched in, must have missed the Vanarch stuff.

     

    Curious to see how it plays out.

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904

    Originally posted by Nephaerius

    Originally posted by SuperXero89


    Originally posted by NBlitz


    Originally posted by Feudalism

    I read both the article on Kotaku and the tweet but neither of them really give solid reasons why Tera is better, other than..."I LIKE IT MORE". Tera is the same old PvE nonsense that we've seen for too long and the "action combat" is restrictive in that it locks you in place for every move you use. Just because GW2 has tab target option does not mean it's not as skill based. You can dodge attacks in GW2 and have MUCH better movement than Tera since everything can be cast while moving.

    Something is fishy to me about these two big gaming outlets boasting Tera so soon after each other. Not to mention Tera's official twitter was very quick to retweet what that gabriel guy said.

    If I compare it to my favorite game Bayonetta it's missing a couple of extra mechanics (which I've read the Bluehole devs talk about adding in the future!!!)

    BUT...it is still truly an action combat game, which many bashers/haters can't deal with.




    Further if you could always move it would be extremely easy to cheese combat.

    You could solo group bosses by simply strafing around them mashing buttons. It would feel like ice skating and swinging a nerf bat. Who finds that satisfying? Count me out.

    Action games having animation lock is a staple. The big selling point of this game is that it plays like an action game. The action feels tactical, fluid.

    Watching PvP in MMORPGs always reminded me of that youtube video of the fat kid swinging a lightsaber.  Always felt as if the melee fighting at least looked exactly like that.

    In that respect, I don't mind the animation lock, though it is frustrating when attempting to kite something.

     Anyone remember Aion?  Yeah the animation lock killed PvP long before any of the other issues.

    Gladiator: "I'm gonna hit you with mah big dmg move Sorc! As soon as I finish this 1.5 sec animation!  Oh you're out of range now and I miss....."

    I haven't played TERA so I have no idea if this will be an issue for them.  I have no interest in the game and I'm not bashing it just pointing out that the same thing existed in Aion and basically ruined and continues to ruin PvP to this day.

    Where did this come from? Both systems are as equal as apples are to oranges. AION is not a free aim action game.

  • otacuotacu Member UncommonPosts: 547

    Oh yeah more unsupported conspiracies about Ncsoft.  :) 

     

    More on topic the review was quite a bit focused on praising the political system. Well... not like i want to be a party pooper but the system is out in Korea since last year and it's not really as "good" as people think wonder it is here in the west. And the casual player (the vast majority of the players) won't even notice the political system exists. In truth only a small minority of the players will bother with it and since it's a huge timesink and there is little freedom in being a Vanarch i doubt it will be as "passionate" as the reviewer speculate it will be.

    I just hope there will be a chat moderator to limit the "vote for me" spam.

     

     

     


    Originally posted by Rommie10-284

    It would be interesting if both games are successful and both developers hate each other - maybe it would improve the end product of updates if they are trying to one-up the other all the time.  I don't think Tera has enough juice to really match up with GW2, but anything that might improve the developer mismanagement of games is a positive.


     

    Why would Arenanet and Bluehole studios hate each other? It's more like they don't care about each other.

     

  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594

    Originally posted by Mavacar

    I hardly think NCSoft cares much of Teras head start. The people who bought Tera will play Tera and people pre-purchasing Gw2 will play Gw2, the people between will probably play both.

    I hope this is how it will end up. Aside from time constraints, playing both is a decent option financially. GW2 is B2P, and Tera has a comparatively small monthly fee. $6? Skipping two lattes a month should be possible, no? image

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  • NevulusNevulus Member UncommonPosts: 1,288

    Yup I will be playing both Tera and GW2. Great year for MMOs! (ok maybe a little premature)

    You know  what I am tired of? People constantly comparing GW2 and Tera.

    Is it so wrong to like them both? I had no interest in Tera at all, i am not a fan of the western art direction, and I definitely did not follow anything about Tera other than a few videos I seen over the past year on MMORPG.com. But I tried the open beta anyway, and it was tons of fun. So much fun that I pre-ordered the next day. 

    As for GW2 theres a NDA so you know how that goes. But Tera definitely deserves the respect, the action gameplay alone made me forget about the inappropriate character models.

     

     

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