the gw2 community has already made itself look pretty bad.any mature person thats played world of warcraft already can see
It's kind of scary at times. I mean. We're all excited for Guild Wars 2 coming out. But when it comes to people going off like a loose cannon when a negative word is in the same sentence as Guild Wars 2. People need to tone down the fanaticism.
OP, are you satisfied now?
Thanks for being the rolemodel on: "How to look down on the community while flexing my composure"
This just puts you in the same boat as everyone else.
Probably the most hilarious thing about this thread is that the podcast listed in the OP actually doesn't talk about negatives at all in GW2. It's basically a very poorly done piece on personal preference. They have some good points, but on a lot of things (even some of the more positive things), they just don't really seem to know what they are talking about.
Meowhead already made a thread on this called "Why you might like GW2, and why your mileage will vary" and it's done way better.
stopped watching when he said you cant kite in wow .. /lolz
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
Originally posted by suu141 OP, are you satisfied now?
I got two people who have been lurking since '05/'06 that are responsible for making these awesome podcasts to post on the forums. I'm very satisfied.
I'm just disappointed with the Guild Wars 2 fanatic's over reaction and even posting nasty comments on youtube with out even watching the video. How ever. Then again it proves a point mentioned in the video about mentioning any thing seemingly bad about Guild Wars 2 and fanatics blindly jumping in to defend it.
I thought it would be fun to post this for every one to enjoy. But apparently fanatics don't have the attention span pass the title. Needless to say, it gave these guys who worked on the podcast some exposure for the awesome job they do for those who actually did watch and enjoyed it.
the gw2 community has already made itself look pretty bad.any mature person thats played world of warcraft already can see
It's kind of scary at times. I mean. We're all excited for Guild Wars 2 coming out. But when it comes to people going off like a loose cannon when a negative word is in the same sentence as Guild Wars 2. People need to tone down the fanaticism.
OP, are you satisfied now?
Thanks for being the rolemodel on: "How to look down on the community while flexing my composure"
This just puts you in the same boat as everyone else.
Probably the most hilarious thing about this thread is that the podcast listed in the OP actually doesn't talk about negatives at all in GW2. It's basically a very poorly done piece on personal preference. They have some good points, but on a lot of things (even some of the more positive things), they just don't really seem to know what they are talking about.
Meowhead already made a thread on this called "Why you might like GW2, and why your mileage will vary" and it's done way better.
Well the whole point of the podcast in this thread was to be intentionally biased negetively, in general, for everyone to see.
I find this type of argument more constructive as people tend to weigh the negatives more heavily than the positives instead of enjoying a game for what it is and not for what it's missing. After all, it's all the little "things" that add up that makes the fun game or unplayable.
"When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141
Ahh, people who dedicate their free time to things they don't like.. I'll never, ever, get it..
Who's doing that?
A pod-cast addressing all the negatives in Guild Wars 2.
eather way,ive met people in other mmos who i guess think its a cool thing to play a video game.not like it,and spend there entire day bitching about the game.so yeah,im kinda with Boognishe on ill never really get why you play games you dont like,maybe its just some people are to stupid to quit playing or think its something besides being extremely annoying to bitch about the game 24/7
Every single person in that podcast is a huge GW2 fan. Nobody there is spending time on something they don't like. Good job commenting only on the title while knowing nothing of the video's contents.
Originally posted by suu141 OP, are you satisfied now?
I got two people who have been lurking since '05/'06 that are responsible for making these awesome podcasts to post on the forums. I'm very satisfied.
I'm just disappointed with the Guild Wars 2 fanatic's over reaction and even posting nasty comments on youtube with out even watching the video. How ever. Then again it proves a point mentioned in the video about mentioning any thing seemingly bad about Guild Wars 2 and fanatics blindly jumping in to defend it.
I thought it would be fun to post this for every one to enjoy. But apparently fanatics don't have the attention span pass the title. Needless to say, it gave these guys who worked on the podcast some exposure for the awesome job they do for those who actually did watch and enjoyed it.
Honestly I didn't have the time or patience to watch that rediculously long video on stuff most likely I already know, this is including most of the people here in these forums.
People with any type of interest in games will be in and commenting in every type of media. For all we know, the community in Youtube is exactly the same people who post in these forums. Or not.
Yes, some of 'us' are guilty for automatically assuming this was something when it really wasn't. When you 'simply' post something, people will simply post how they feel in return. We are only human, just accept that.
"When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141
Oh, and for the people that don't like the cursing and random dirty talks, sorry but we decided after trying to censor our talk we just weren't expressing ourselves as comfortably, hence the disclaimer.
Bruce (Gyoin)
First off welcome out of the closet of lurking :P I totally agree with most of the opinions on the show, especially about the other games that were compared. The mental readjustment people will face to learn how to play Guild Wars 2 is actually HUGE. My wife and I have been gaming together since before we got married and she had a heck of a time learning the movement mechanics of the combat system with dodge.
Now as to why I quoted the above:
Seemed like only one person was "expressing himself comfortably" so I'll leave ya with a last thought.
You'll never lose viewers for censoring speach and content but you definitely will for not censoring it; its up to you whether its worth the loss.
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Anyways, we did this podcast because we wanted to try something different. Our other podcasts are full of gushy fanboy love that we wanted to try to devil's advocate approach. I'm glad we did too after the response we've seen on multiple sites. But to be truthful, we wanted to do this topic a couple weeks ago but it took us FOREVER to come up with things we didn't like about the game. It was a stretch. That's why a couple of our topics seem a little out there, but we felt they were validated for our discussion points. If you like it, sweet! I'm glad you did. If you didn't, ok that's not your taste and we understand that.
just wanted to say thanks for the podcast!
i saw this posted on this site early this morning but wanted to wait until i had free time to listen to it. finally found the time and enjoyed it!
wow that was a horrible thing to watch. the host is annoying as hell and cusses non stop, the big furry guy talks over everyone and the shadowy guy just lurks in the shadows. and everytime the girl says anything they laugh at her and make fun of what she says because shes a girl.
oh and I have a cat too that sits in my lap while im on my computer, so its not just a girl thing.
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A pod-cast addressing all the negatives in Guild Wars 2.
Every single person in that podcast is a huge GW2 fan. Nobody there is spending time on something they don't like. Good job commenting only on the title while knowing nothing of the video's contents.
As it seems that a lot of the fanatics of this game are really rabid....
I mean goodness you guys... you make people weary to play games that you do because of how you are responding to critizisim.
Heh, yeah, always fun to watch the fans get riled up when they perceive criticism of the MMO they love, especially since the video wasn't a criticism at all.
I didn't even watch it, but did take the time to read the posts here of people who did and figured out what it was really all about.
Oh well, keeps it entertaining here on the forums.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
As it seems that a lot of the fanatics of this game are really rabid....
I mean goodness you guys... you make people weary to play games that you do because of how you are responding to critizisim.
Oh hey, thanks by the way for the smite keys. Anyway I am looking forward to GW2 myself because of the WvW and the new take on the classes. However you guys (Fanboys) need to take a chill pill. There is no need to attack people on site for mentioning GW2 in anything but a positive sentence.
You want people to like the game, not get so scared to play because it is lacking community. This isnt DOTA where you can yell at everyone just by them not understanding simple terms like solo mid.
I don't really see most of what they listed as being issues. The biggest problems for me is the extremely sluggish character movement/animation speed. And the tired cartoon fantasy setting.
I also have a few concerns that pve may devolve into running around looking for circles on the map. I then run into a pack of mobs and spam my aoe abilities, rinse repeat.
0:00 - Intro 1:00 - Topic announcement 2:10 - Not a learning curve, it's an adjustment curve - yep get over it. really not that hard 3:15 - Dodge Mechanic and hectic combat - not hectic unless you pvp 8:11 - Binding Dodge vs. double-tap - makes it easier 9:29 - Ranged vs. melee - not a problem if you keep moving, and dodge 12:50 - Kitty Power 13:35 - Targeting, mob dodging - can bind target but most abilities are AOE already, including melee. 16:15 - No 1st-person camera - go play FPS games if that's what you're into 18:05 - GW2 has made other games seem sucky - definitely not an issue as most other games ARE sucky 18:50 - Hype-train - very old out of date and wrong answer, there is no more hype now that everything is known about this title.
21:20 - GW1 vs. GW2, Lore shifts - I'm sure they had to update some things 24:50 - More kitty 25:44 - Hype, The Rapture - Hype doesn't exist again smh 27:00 - Mounts - Don't need mounts yet 31:00 - Allied with everybody, no open world PvP - it's the first mmo to be an mmo in a long time 38:10 - Queuing System - the only queing i've seen is of the dungeons/wvwvw , there is no queing to play, you get put into side server to play immediately. no more of this "you are 359 in the que" to login.
41:00 - Eternal Battlegrounds vs. borderlands 42:00 - Skill-based vs. equipment/class-based - also fantastic, bye bye gankers! 45:55 - No "specs" like healer or tank - nope, you can customize to your hearts content 50:24 - No addons - bye bye dps meters! 54:15 - Smooth Jazz with Tristian 58:23 - No Fishing - planned on adding that after launch 1:00:50 - Different learning curves for professions - also great it would be boring otherwise 1:03:04 - Endgame - not really an end game and not an issue for the real players 1:05:40 - Orr 1:07:49 - Player housing 1:10:05 - Leveling speed - also great only affects people who like to stand around and do nothing or aoe grind 1:12:50 - "Like WoW" ... "Like GW2" .. Attack of the Clones - definitely not a clone of anything HA funniest thing i've seen all day! 1:14:45 - WvW loot, bag space - get more bag space, not that hard. 1:17:37 - Armor repair - everyone has to repair. duh 1:19:01 - No player-player trading - mail system. 1:22:29 - Amount of skills - bye bye 25,000 skills 1:25:15 - PvP matches 1:27:33 - Matchmaking based on rank - again skill not armor 1:28:34 - Character slots - buy more, personally they gave me pleanty 1:30:40 - Guild interface - improvements coming 1:31:50 - Cash shop - also a great idea, bye bye useless sub
1:36:00 - Pre-show
i see nothing negative in this post really. Can't imagine why people don't like it, unless they expected more of the WoW, SWTOR stuff in this game. Sorry to disappoint.
Originally posted by Mardukk I don't really see most of what they listed as being issues. The biggest problems for me is the extremely sluggish character movement/animation speed. And the tired cartoon fantasy setting. I also have a few concerns that pve may devolve into running around looking for circles on the map. I then run into a pack of mobs and spam my aoe abilities, rinse repeat.
that cartoon thing is due only to the curent economic client, people can't afford to run out en masse to get a new rig every minute so it's REALLY good business to make your game available for as many people as possible.
Pfft GW2 is Amazing, I say that after 2 beta weekends.
However I wonder how low of a Score MMORPG.COM will give the game after giving SWTOR an 8.5.
I mean this site hates games that dont make you do a gear treadmill, what didn't they give EVE a 6 or 7?
Actually this site initially gave SWTOR a 9/10 right after launch, and then changed it after people realized how much the writers on this site didn't really notice out of the MASSIVE amounts of bugs in this title at launch.
Dear Rabid Detractors of GW2, who many see this video as a good point to jump on the "Yeah GW2 sucks!" bandwagon:
In case you are commenting here without having actually watched that video, which based on a lot of posts here I can assure myself you did not...It is not an hour of "This is why GW2 sucks". Instead, the video is actually 4 people discussing many of the more contentious points of the game and refuting a lot of the misinformation out there.
Dear Rabid Fans of GW2, who immediately start flaming this podcast:
In case you are commenting here without having actually watched that video, which based on a lot of posts here I can assure myself you did not...It is not an hour of "This is why GW2 sucks". Instead, the video is actually 4 people discussing many of the more contentious points of the game and refuting a lot of the misinformation out there.
Dear Everyone that bothered to watch the damn thing:
0:00 - Intro 1:00 - Topic announcement 2:10 - Not a learning curve, it's an adjustment curve - yep get over it. really not that hard 3:15 - Dodge Mechanic and hectic combat - not hectic unless you pvp 8:11 - Binding Dodge vs. double-tap - makes it easier 9:29 - Ranged vs. melee - not a problem if you keep moving, and dodge 12:50 - Kitty Power 13:35 - Targeting, mob dodging - can bind target but most abilities are AOE already, including melee. 16:15 - No 1st-person camera - go play FPS games if that's what you're into 18:05 - GW2 has made other games seem sucky - definitely not an issue as most other games ARE sucky 18:50 - Hype-train - very old out of date and wrong answer, there is no more hype now that everything is known about this title.
21:20 - GW1 vs. GW2, Lore shifts - I'm sure they had to update some things 24:50 - More kitty 25:44 - Hype, The Rapture - Hype doesn't exist again smh 27:00 - Mounts - Don't need mounts yet 31:00 - Allied with everybody, no open world PvP - it's the first mmo to be an mmo in a long time 38:10 - Queuing System - the only queing i've seen is of the dungeons/wvwvw , there is no queing to play, you get put into side server to play immediately. no more of this "you are 359 in the que" to login.
41:00 - Eternal Battlegrounds vs. borderlands 42:00 - Skill-based vs. equipment/class-based - also fantastic, bye bye gankers! 45:55 - No "specs" like healer or tank - nope, you can customize to your hearts content 50:24 - No addons - bye bye dps meters! 54:15 - Smooth Jazz with Tristian 58:23 - No Fishing - planned on adding that after launch 1:00:50 - Different learning curves for professions - also great it would be boring otherwise 1:03:04 - Endgame - not really an end game and not an issue for the real players 1:05:40 - Orr 1:07:49 - Player housing 1:10:05 - Leveling speed - also great only affects people who like to stand around and do nothing or aoe grind 1:12:50 - "Like WoW" ... "Like GW2" .. Attack of the Clones - definitely not a clone of anything HA funniest thing i've seen all day! 1:14:45 - WvW loot, bag space - get more bag space, not that hard. 1:17:37 - Armor repair - everyone has to repair. duh 1:19:01 - No player-player trading - mail system. 1:22:29 - Amount of skills - bye bye 25,000 skills 1:25:15 - PvP matches 1:27:33 - Matchmaking based on rank - again skill not armor 1:28:34 - Character slots - buy more, personally they gave me pleanty 1:30:40 - Guild interface - improvements coming 1:31:50 - Cash shop - also a great idea, bye bye useless sub
1:36:00 - Pre-show
i see nothing negative in this post really. Can't imagine why people don't like it, unless they expected more of the WoW, SWTOR stuff in this game. Sorry to disappoint.
Do you not understand what talking points are? Another person who has NOT listened to the Podcast. Ha.
They are not the TOPICS, they are generalizations of what is going to be talked about at that timecode.
Comments
Probably the most hilarious thing about this thread is that the podcast listed in the OP actually doesn't talk about negatives at all in GW2. It's basically a very poorly done piece on personal preference. They have some good points, but on a lot of things (even some of the more positive things), they just don't really seem to know what they are talking about.
Meowhead already made a thread on this called "Why you might like GW2, and why your mileage will vary" and it's done way better.
stopped watching when he said you cant kite in wow .. /lolz
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
wuldnt it b better to say y SOME of yu wont like gw2 instead of drawing evry1 over 1 comb so to speak?
it wont be evry1s cup of tea but no game ever is
I got two people who have been lurking since '05/'06 that are responsible for making these awesome podcasts to post on the forums. I'm very satisfied.
I'm just disappointed with the Guild Wars 2 fanatic's over reaction and even posting nasty comments on youtube with out even watching the video. How ever. Then again it proves a point mentioned in the video about mentioning any thing seemingly bad about Guild Wars 2 and fanatics blindly jumping in to defend it.
I thought it would be fun to post this for every one to enjoy. But apparently fanatics don't have the attention span pass the title. Needless to say, it gave these guys who worked on the podcast some exposure for the awesome job they do for those who actually did watch and enjoyed it.
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http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
Well the whole point of the podcast in this thread was to be intentionally biased negetively, in general, for everyone to see.
I find this type of argument more constructive as people tend to weigh the negatives more heavily than the positives instead of enjoying a game for what it is and not for what it's missing. After all, it's all the little "things" that add up that makes the fun game or unplayable.
"When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141
Every single person in that podcast is a huge GW2 fan. Nobody there is spending time on something they don't like. Good job commenting only on the title while knowing nothing of the video's contents.
Honestly I didn't have the time or patience to watch that rediculously long video on stuff most likely I already know, this is including most of the people here in these forums.
People with any type of interest in games will be in and commenting in every type of media. For all we know, the community in Youtube is exactly the same people who post in these forums. Or not.
Yes, some of 'us' are guilty for automatically assuming this was something when it really wasn't. When you 'simply' post something, people will simply post how they feel in return. We are only human, just accept that.
"When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141
I'd like to add to the list "The community"
As it seems that a lot of the fanatics of this game are really rabid....
I mean goodness you guys... you make people weary to play games that you do because of how you are responding to critizisim.
First off welcome out of the closet of lurking :P I totally agree with most of the opinions on the show, especially about the other games that were compared.
The mental readjustment people will face to learn how to play Guild Wars 2 is actually HUGE. My wife and I have been gaming together since before we got married and she had a heck of a time learning the movement mechanics of the combat system with dodge.
Now as to why I quoted the above:
Seemed like only one person was "expressing himself comfortably" so I'll leave ya with a last thought.
You'll never lose viewers for censoring speach and content but you definitely will for not censoring it; its up to you whether its worth the loss.
IamApropos
See where adventure will lead you!
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just wanted to say thanks for the podcast!
i saw this posted on this site early this morning but wanted to wait until i had free time to listen to it. finally found the time and enjoyed it!
wow that was a horrible thing to watch. the host is annoying as hell and cusses non stop, the big furry guy talks over everyone and the shadowy guy just lurks in the shadows. and everytime the girl says anything they laugh at her and make fun of what she says because shes a girl.
oh and I have a cat too that sits in my lap while im on my computer, so its not just a girl thing.
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Me too! Me too! I've got a 5 hours pod cast on my blog that tells people why I don't like carrots, in case anyone is interested.
well worth highlighting
EQ2 fan sites
Pfft GW2 is Amazing, I say that after 2 beta weekends.
However I wonder how low of a Score MMORPG.COM will give the game after giving SWTOR an 8.5.
I mean this site hates games that dont make you do a gear treadmill, what didn't they give EVE a 6 or 7?
Heh, yeah, always fun to watch the fans get riled up when they perceive criticism of the MMO they love, especially since the video wasn't a criticism at all.
I didn't even watch it, but did take the time to read the posts here of people who did and figured out what it was really all about.
Oh well, keeps it entertaining here on the forums.
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I hate GW2 because I'm enjoying it too much...
Oh hey, thanks by the way for the smite keys. Anyway I am looking forward to GW2 myself because of the WvW and the new take on the classes. However you guys (Fanboys) need to take a chill pill. There is no need to attack people on site for mentioning GW2 in anything but a positive sentence.
You want people to like the game, not get so scared to play because it is lacking community. This isnt DOTA where you can yell at everyone just by them not understanding simple terms like solo mid.
Aren't fanatics rabid by nature?
Any community will have bad apples.
Bigger communities will have a higher absolute number of bad apples.
Not playing a game because of the vocal fanatics is silly - they will always be a small percentage of the total community.
it is even more silly because all of us posting in forums are "fanatics" compared to other players that never visit forums.
Currently playing: GW2
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I also have a few concerns that pve may devolve into running around looking for circles on the map. I then run into a pack of mobs and spam my aoe abilities, rinse repeat.
i see nothing negative in this post really. Can't imagine why people don't like it, unless they expected more of the WoW, SWTOR stuff in this game. Sorry to disappoint.
that cartoon thing is due only to the curent economic client, people can't afford to run out en masse to get a new rig every minute so it's REALLY good business to make your game available for as many people as possible.
Actually this site initially gave SWTOR a 9/10 right after launch, and then changed it after people realized how much the writers on this site didn't really notice out of the MASSIVE amounts of bugs in this title at launch.
Dear Rabid Detractors of GW2, who many see this video as a good point to jump on the "Yeah GW2 sucks!" bandwagon:
In case you are commenting here without having actually watched that video, which based on a lot of posts here I can assure myself you did not...It is not an hour of "This is why GW2 sucks". Instead, the video is actually 4 people discussing many of the more contentious points of the game and refuting a lot of the misinformation out there.
Dear Rabid Fans of GW2, who immediately start flaming this podcast:
In case you are commenting here without having actually watched that video, which based on a lot of posts here I can assure myself you did not...It is not an hour of "This is why GW2 sucks". Instead, the video is actually 4 people discussing many of the more contentious points of the game and refuting a lot of the misinformation out there.
Do you not understand what talking points are? Another person who has NOT listened to the Podcast. Ha.
They are not the TOPICS, they are generalizations of what is going to be talked about at that timecode.
Just CLICK HERE: If you only listened to this Podcast you would realize you just proved one of the points
I don't like GW2 because I can start to play at the 25th first and I have to wait for so long (crying a river). :'(