Actually, I really liked Scottc's original post and felt he made good points, even if stated them rather "strongly."
But now I am afraid to say I agreed with him because of all the nasty reactions to his post because when I do I will look like ---> *biff! bam! pow! smack!* and then ---> *kick! beat! smash!stomp!* .
If I just read the OP post, then I have kind of agree with some conditions. Just look at all the korean Lineage 2 clones out there. But at the same time I don't think L2 is a horrible game or that all these clones are bad for the industry (mind you I don't care about "the industry") or for me. In any case you should give thanks to Blizzard and NCsoft for bringing so many new MMORPG players into the scenario and for setting such a high features mark
The question is, does all the work put into those clones go against work possibly invested otherwise (case of no "big hit" game existence) into a new rich feature game? Being honest, no.
Originally posted by shae Originally posted by Scottc Look, I am a game programmer, I know how the fucking industry works. Hmmm ok let's think this through shall we ? - You've little to no regard for people who dissagree with you or don't have the same view points as yourself. - You have stated that you literally hate people who play a certain game, in this case world of warcraft. - You have absolutely zero interest in hearing anyone elses oppinions, especially if they conflict with your own. - Your are quick insult, judge and or randomly swear at people. - Have no respect for any community whatsoever. - To top it all off you can't recognize anything other then solid PvP as good gameplay. Here's a tip... start looking for a different vocation, I'm thinking anything to do with fun and or people, probably not for you .
He's 17 so he's lieing but, he could probably get a job working for SOE
I would never use anything as crappy as playerworlds. Can I not call myself a game programmer if I have made a game? I have done my research on the industry, I constantly talk to a guy who works for Santa Cruz Games, I learned from him even, I frequent the gamedev.net forums. If I have programmed a game, I can call myself a game programming, I've made asteroids with C++, Bomberman with online player via UDP sockets, an online 2D paintball game, and am currently working with a team making a 3d wing commanderish game. I do wish I had started earlier than 12.
Wow, that is impressive... Not your accomplishments, they are moderate. Your failure to see the stronger point. You can be a game programmer as much as you like. You don't necessarily know anything about the industry or anything else.
I could learn how to fix cars without knowing how to drive you know.
Myself, I am a game programmer. I made space invaders and a nifty little shooter with infinite map scrolling and custom levels.
But I'm not really a game programmer. I am a self learned programming language hobbyist. I've never made anything with commercial appeal, the best I've done is something to make my little sister happy (that shooter, with "invincible mode"). Currently self learning C#.
The future: Adellion Common flaw in MMORPGs: The ability to die casually Advantages of Adellion: Dynamic world (affected by its inhabitants) Player-driven world (beasts won't be an endless supply of mighty swords, gold will come from mines, not dragonly dens) Player-driven world (Leadership is the privilege of a player, not an npc)
Originally posted by Scottc Can I not call myself a game programmer if I have made a game?
I pulled a sliver out of my hand once, but I think I'd be in a bit of trouble if I advertised myself as a surgeon. So yes you can call yourself a game programmer, but doing so would be as exaggerated as the rest of what you've said so far is.
For someone who claims to know so much about the indrustry, you'd think you'd have a better understanding of personal preference and why every game isn't the same.
Originally posted by Scottc I would never use anything as crappy as playerworlds. Can I not call myself a game programmer if I have made a game? I have done my research on the industry, I constantly talk to a guy who works for Santa Cruz Games, I learned from him even, I frequent the gamedev.net forums. If I have programmed a game, I can call myself a game programming, I've made asteroids with C++, Bomberman with online player via UDP sockets, an online 2D paintball game, and am currently working with a team making a 3d wing commanderish game. I do wish I had started earlier than 12.
Those are all wonderful things to do Scott, and very impressive. You should be extremely proud of yourself for taking a sincere interest in something at such an age and if you enjoy it, which it looks like you do, I hope you keep it up and it brings you a lifetime of joy and happiness, because there really is no greater gift to yourself then finding your passion and being able to knock out a living by making a career of it. I sincerely wish you all the luck in that, truly. Work hard, get the experience, get the education and never forget to have fun during it all.
That being said, do I consider you a game programmer? Absolutely not, no more then I consider myself a network engineer, and I have two years of university at the moment with over a year and a half's worth of internship at a QA firm. That's not a bad thing, just means I don't consider you an expert, no more then I consider myself one. That absolutely does not take away from your accomplishments, you've abviously a passion for it and thats a great thing, but that doesn't give you the right to speak down on people because you've had some exprerience, it does NOT make you better then anyone else here.
All told, I know more then a few people on these forums that have far greater knowledge of making games then you do and they would ever dare to speak to people the way you have, would never think less of others because of their own experience.
In this case, however, with you I think we can simply chalk it up to immaturity and young age coupled with strong will. Theres nothing espeically wrong with that in itself but I think it's time to put things said in this thread asside and move on. For my part in provocation, I applogize as obviously I had not realized the personality type I was dealign with.
Perhaps Scott, it's time that you look inwardly and towards those that are around you, instead of looking so poorly on them, maybe realize that as gamers they all have valid points, it might be best to not dismiss them so quickly in the future. And with that, I wish you all the luck in the future and I hope that at some point, you realize that it's not so good to treat people so harshly and think so little of them.
Ok, maybe I was wrong to say such things, but it is very much a pain to find a decent game out there with all the watered down (in my opinion) games that are out there. I have wasted so much money on what I believe to be crap. WoW players can enjoy their horrible game if they want, but I can only hope that in the future they'll have had enough of that crap (crap in my opinion once again) that they will long for better games for mature gamers (mature in a sense that they've been gaming for quite some time).
As for the whole pulled a sliver out surgeon thing, of course you need to go to medical school to advertise yourself as a surgeon. Who the hell is going to pay you when your a freakin self-taught surgeon? In this wonderful day and age, you don't need any sort of 'gamedev education', you can self learn, and make games that look prettier than Doom 3. You would be amazed at the things people made, and they are in middle school or high school, I was amazed when I found out how old a certain someone was after seeing what he made.
Originally posted by Scottc I just can't understand why anyone would play a game like WoW. I've been playing MMORPG's since around 99 when Asheron's Call came out (my first), and Asheron's Call was an interesting game. It provided me with a nice level of involvement, as in I didn't watch my character fight, I was the one fighting. If I was a melee, I had control, I could choose if I want to attack their head, legs, or torso, and then I could say how fast I wanted to swing, whether it be quick attacks, or slow powerful blows. I had the similar option as an archer. The mage provided me with an amazing level of involvement though, instead of selecting a target and clicking attack, and pressing a few buttons to cast spells, I was completely in control. There was no automation, I to actually select all my spells, there was no auto melee attack. I thoroughly enjoyed this game, playing from a melee to an archer to a mage. It had me hooked for five years. Lets talk about todays MMORPG's. World of Warcraft. Every single class has special abilities. You can not defeat a monster that is more than 5-10 levels higher than you. Player skill does not exist in this game. I tried this game out, I did not like it. I felt like I had no control, I want to play a game, not watch my character play it. Why does a mage have melee attacks? He is a caster, he casts spells, his staff wasn't made for hitting people, it was made for casting magic. Another thing about WoW, you can't dodge magic, you can resist, but no amount of movement will stop it from hitting you. So basically in WoW, whoever has the best skills and items wins. Your character is the one fighting, not you. Having no ability to affect the outcome of a battle outside your characters skills and items makes the game feel repetitive, and as i've said before, as if you are not involved in the game at all.
Welcome to the MMORPG industry where the "R" stands for repitition.
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Originally posted by Entreri28 Originally posted by Scottc I just can't understand why anyone would play a game like WoW. I've been playing MMORPG's since around 99 when Asheron's Call came out (my first), and Asheron's Call was an interesting game. It provided me with a nice level of involvement, as in I didn't watch my character fight, I was the one fighting. If I was a melee, I had control, I could choose if I want to attack their head, legs, or torso, and then I could say how fast I wanted to swing, whether it be quick attacks, or slow powerful blows. I had the similar option as an archer. The mage provided me with an amazing level of involvement though, instead of selecting a target and clicking attack, and pressing a few buttons to cast spells, I was completely in control. There was no automation, I to actually select all my spells, there was no auto melee attack. I thoroughly enjoyed this game, playing from a melee to an archer to a mage. It had me hooked for five years. Lets talk about todays MMORPG's. World of Warcraft. Every single class has special abilities. You can not defeat a monster that is more than 5-10 levels higher than you. Player skill does not exist in this game. I tried this game out, I did not like it. I felt like I had no control, I want to play a game, not watch my character play it. Why does a mage have melee attacks? He is a caster, he casts spells, his staff wasn't made for hitting people, it was made for casting magic. Another thing about WoW, you can't dodge magic, you can resist, but no amount of movement will stop it from hitting you. So basically in WoW, whoever has the best skills and items wins. Your character is the one fighting, not you. Having no ability to affect the outcome of a battle outside your characters skills and items makes the game feel repetitive, and as i've said before, as if you are not involved in the game at all.Welcome to the MMORPG industry where the "R" stands for repitition.
Some how the RPG in MMORPG seems to mean raising your numbers/stats higher, but you can play the role of someone without all that grind. You can have a medieval game in which player skill is what matters, and even introduce character building via stats in ways that the player will not even notice, let them build their character through playing the game how they want, not forcing them to do the whole level treadmill to compete.
Sorry, I caught this little guy on page like 3 of this thread and laughed out loud. Had to say thanks to Damonville for such a brilliant piece of thread punctuation.
There needs to be one for laughing-out-loud though...
Sheesh what a fuss and ruckus, and all for nothing. Scott, while you may be well spoken and come across seemingly intellegent , your whole "I hate everyone cause they like a game i dont and now they will never make a game i like again!!!!!" tantrum shows your maturity. Your logic that no one will make games you like anymore because of WoW's popularity is the logic of a kid.... a very young kid. Your logic is also wrong.
You want games with more skill based combat and involvement, all you had to do is take the time you wasted writing your "hate post" and just read alittle bit about current games in development.
Heres just a sample of mmogs that will offer twitch and skill in their combat;
-Huxley
-Age of Conan
-DDO
-The Chronicle
-The Chronicles of Spellborn
-Face of Mankind
-Gods and Hereos
-Roma Victor
-Auto Assault
-Darkfall
There are also just as many games in dev. with WoW style combat as well. Luckily game developers are alittle older then 17 and realize there is room and demand in the game market for different play styles. I myself like alittle twitch in my games while many people i know dont care for it ... especially in their mmorpgs.
I really hate coming down on you but your opinion that people that like games you dont are stupid, coupled with your hope/wish/want they leave the gaming market so devs can concentrate on games you like is just plain arrogant and very selfish.
So please just grow up and learn to live and let live!!
I want to know why you enjoy a game in which only your characters skills and equipment affect the outcome of a fight. Perhaps gaming is not for you, I would suggest a good movie. Gaming is about interactivity, not watching. For those of you who enjoy WoW, get the fuck out of the gaming market, stop buying games, i'm tired of game development companies making movies, I want real games.
This is what mmorpgs are about, all WoW has done is copied that with their own gaming style.
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
Originally posted by nomadian I want to know why you enjoy a game in which only your characters skills and equipment affect the outcome of a fight. Perhaps gaming is not for you, I would suggest a good movie. Gaming is about interactivity, not watching. For those of you who enjoy WoW, get the fuck out of the gaming market, stop buying games, i'm tired of game development companies making movies, I want real games.
This is what mmorpgs are about, all WoW has done is copied that with their own gaming style.
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers, saying LOLZ! Aggro! and all that other shit is not roleplaying. Face of Mankind is definately an MMORPG, you are supposed to play the role of your character, you are encouraged to, the world was built around this.
Originally posted by Scottc Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers,
It's pretty surprising how narrow minded you are. It's been made abundantly clear to you here that not all players want to have a game based on how fast they can mash thier keys.
MMORPGs evolved from PnP games like D&D not from counter strike people who wanted a bigger world to walk around in. D&D and games like it where all about RPing and every skill in that game was based on numbers and dice rolls not your ability to beat up the DM.
Originally posted by Scottc I am on no elitist high horse, WoW is most definately not fun. To say that you must be someone who has never played another game on the PC in their life. Anyone can jump into most games and figure it all out in five minutes. Some MMOG's are way too complex to figure out, some of them like that are good, and some of them suck. I'm wondering how old you are, as you mispell many things, and you seem to enjoy WoW. Another thing, when I hear about WoW, I never hear how fun it is to play, I hear about how great the graphics are. When a game is fun, everyone will talk about how great it is to play, and some good time they had in it. WoW is a joke.
Sorry Scottc, but Shae is right...the game is fun!! Just because YOU didn't enjoy it for whatever reason, does NOT mean it's not fun. (I found it fun...for a couple of months, and when I didn't anymore I stopped playing...that's what a GAME is for me...it's not a job...it's not a lifestyle...it's a damn game!) 3 to 5 million people (who are still playing) obviously find it FUN (or at least some sort of challenge, fulfillment, social-network...something...that keeps them playing)... JUST coz you don't find it so...don't make it not so... (EDIT: Oh, and ragging shae for spelling 2 words wrong, one with just the letters swapped around and the other where she left 1 letter out (both obviously typos that anyone can make) IS THE DEFINITION of ELITIST. Plus you're just perpetuating the same crap that all other WoW-haters are spouting, that people who like WoW are unschooled babies. What a load!! You're not just ELITIST, you're a crowd-following sheep-elitist...pathetic! )
So what other MMOG's have you played? Its like sex, if you've only had it bad, you don't know what its like good, and you probably are thinking thats as good as it gets.
the single most heart-thumping, exilerating, sweat inducing PVP-game I've ever played was JUMPGATE... a perfect game that was unfortunately ruined by the player base.
Originally posted by Scottc I just can't understand why anyone would play a game like WoW. I've been playing MMORPG's since around 99 when Asheron's Call came out (my first), and Asheron's Call was an interesting game. It provided me with a nice level of involvement, as in I didn't watch my character fight, I was the one fighting. If I was a melee, I had control, I could choose if I want to attack their head, legs, or torso, and then I could say how fast I wanted to swing, whether it be quick attacks, or slow powerful blows. I had the similar option as an archer. The mage provided me with an amazing level of involvement though, instead of selecting a target and clicking attack, and pressing a few buttons to cast spells, I was completely in control. There was no automation, I to actually select all my spells, there was no auto melee attack. I thoroughly enjoyed this game, playing from a melee to an archer to a mage. It had me hooked for five years.Lets talk about todays MMORPG's. World of Warcraft. Every single class has special abilities. You can not defeat a monster that is more than 5-10 levels higher than you. Player skill does not exist in this game. I tried this game out, I did not like it. I felt like I had no control, I want to play a game, not watch my character play it. Why does a mage have melee attacks? He is a caster, he casts spells, his staff wasn't made for hitting people, it was made for casting magic. Another thing about WoW, you can't dodge magic, you can resist, but no amount of movement will stop it from hitting you. So basically in WoW, whoever has the best skills and items wins. Your character is the one fighting, not you. Having no ability to affect the outcome of a battle outside your characters skills and items makes the game feel repetitive, and as i've said before, as if you are not involved in the game at all.I make games that people like to play, rather than look at.I want to know why you enjoy a game in which only your characters skills and equipment affect the outcome of a fight. Perhaps gaming is not for you, I would suggest a good movie. Gaming is about interactivity, not watching. For those of you who enjoy WoW, get the fuck out of the gaming market, stop buying games, i'm tired of game development companies making movies, I want real games.
It's a fact in business that if you try to fulfill everyones desires, you end up loosing...
Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers, saying LOLZ! Aggro! and all that other shit is not roleplaying. Face of Mankind is definately an MMORPG, you are supposed to play the role of your character, you are encouraged to, the world was built around this.
You are in a minority with this, with every mmorpg released there has been few servers dedicated to roleplaying. Additionally, role-playing doesn't strictly mean role-playing. Mmorpgs, you are playing a character in a world, that is as far as most people take roleplaying. Good luck finding the game you are looking for. By the way, Morrowind could be a suggestion.
Originally posted by Scottc Originally posted by nomadian I want to know why you enjoy a game in which only your characters skills and equipment affect the outcome of a fight. Perhaps gaming is not for you, I would suggest a good movie. Gaming is about interactivity, not watching. For those of you who enjoy WoW, get the fuck out of the gaming market, stop buying games, i'm tired of game development companies making movies, I want real games.
This is what mmorpgs are about, all WoW has done is copied that with their own gaming style.
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers, saying LOLZ! Aggro! and all that other shit is not roleplaying. Face of Mankind is definately an MMORPG, you are supposed to play the role of your character, you are encouraged to, the world was built around this.
Wow okay, buddy. This is YOUR idea of what it meens. There is this wonderful thing PERSONAL PREFERENCE. Just because you think one way, doesnt meen that how other people think is wrong. They think differently, the sooner you learn this, the sooner you can start getting along with people. You need to seriously grow up. Cause right now, your wasting your time. You are making an idiot of yourself. This really doesnt matter on the internet, but usually people dont act completely different in the internet from how they are in real life...
And for reference, were not calling you a wow-hater... were calling you an immature elitist and to be frank -- thats worse.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
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Look, I am a game programmer, I know how the fucking industry works.
Hmmm ok let's think this through shall we ?
- You've little to no regard for people who dissagree with you or don't have the same view points as yourself.
- You have stated that you literally hate people who play a certain game, in this case world of warcraft.
- You have absolutely zero interest in hearing anyone elses oppinions, especially if they conflict with your own.
- Your are quick insult, judge and or randomly swear at people.
- Have no respect for any community whatsoever.
- To top it all off you can't recognize anything other then solid PvP as good gameplay.
Here's a tip... start looking for a different vocation, I'm thinking anything to do with fun and or people, probably not for you
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seriously man if you need to lie just to get your right..geez
If I just read the OP post, then I have kind of agree with some conditions. Just look at all the korean Lineage 2 clones out there. But at the same time I don't think L2 is a horrible game or that all these clones are bad for the industry (mind you I don't care about "the industry") or for me. In any case you should give thanks to Blizzard and NCsoft for bringing so many new MMORPG players into the scenario and for setting such a high features mark
The question is, does all the work put into those clones go against work possibly invested otherwise (case of no "big hit" game existence) into a new rich feature game? Being honest, no.
He's 17 so he's lieing but, he could probably get a job working for SOE
I would never use anything as crappy as playerworlds. Can I not call myself a game programmer if I have made a game? I have done my research on the industry, I constantly talk to a guy who works for Santa Cruz Games, I learned from him even, I frequent the gamedev.net forums. If I have programmed a game, I can call myself a game programming, I've made asteroids with C++, Bomberman with online player via UDP sockets, an online 2D paintball game, and am currently working with a team making a 3d wing commanderish game. I do wish I had started earlier than 12.
Wow, that is impressive... Not your accomplishments, they are moderate. Your failure to see the stronger point. You can be a game programmer as much as you like. You don't necessarily know anything about the industry or anything else.
I could learn how to fix cars without knowing how to drive you know.
Myself, I am a game programmer. I made space invaders and a nifty little shooter with infinite map scrolling and custom levels.
But I'm not really a game programmer. I am a self learned programming language hobbyist. I've never made anything with commercial appeal, the best I've done is something to make my little sister happy (that shooter, with "invincible mode"). Currently self learning C#.
The future: Adellion
Common flaw in MMORPGs: The ability to die casually
Advantages of Adellion: Dynamic world (affected by its inhabitants)
Player-driven world (beasts won't be an endless supply of mighty swords, gold will come from mines, not dragonly dens)
Player-driven world (Leadership is the privilege of a player, not an npc)
I pulled a sliver out of my hand once, but I think I'd be in a bit of trouble if I advertised myself as a surgeon. So yes you can call yourself a game programmer, but doing so would be as exaggerated as the rest of what you've said so far is.
For someone who claims to know so much about the indrustry, you'd think you'd have a better understanding of personal preference and why every game isn't the same.
Those are all wonderful things to do Scott, and very impressive. You should be extremely proud of yourself for taking a sincere interest in something at such an age and if you enjoy it, which it looks like you do, I hope you keep it up and it brings you a lifetime of joy and happiness, because there really is no greater gift to yourself then finding your passion and being able to knock out a living by making a career of it. I sincerely wish you all the luck in that, truly. Work hard, get the experience, get the education and never forget to have fun during it all.
That being said, do I consider you a game programmer? Absolutely not, no more then I consider myself a network engineer, and I have two years of university at the moment with over a year and a half's worth of internship at a QA firm. That's not a bad thing, just means I don't consider you an expert, no more then I consider myself one. That absolutely does not take away from your accomplishments, you've abviously a passion for it and thats a great thing, but that doesn't give you the right to speak down on people because you've had some exprerience, it does NOT make you better then anyone else here.
All told, I know more then a few people on these forums that have far greater knowledge of making games then you do and they would ever dare to speak to people the way you have, would never think less of others because of their own experience.
In this case, however, with you I think we can simply chalk it up to immaturity and young age coupled with strong will. Theres nothing espeically wrong with that in itself but I think it's time to put things said in this thread asside and move on. For my part in provocation, I applogize as obviously I had not realized the personality type I was dealign with.
Perhaps Scott, it's time that you look inwardly and towards those that are around you, instead of looking so poorly on them, maybe realize that as gamers they all have valid points, it might be best to not dismiss them so quickly in the future. And with that, I wish you all the luck in the future and I hope that at some point, you realize that it's not so good to treat people so harshly and think so little of them.
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You should be majoring in Psychology, Shae!
Your age belies your intellect and common sense.
Ok, maybe I was wrong to say such things, but it is very much a pain to find a decent game out there with all the watered down (in my opinion) games that are out there. I have wasted so much money on what I believe to be crap. WoW players can enjoy their horrible game if they want, but I can only hope that in the future they'll have had enough of that crap (crap in my opinion once again) that they will long for better games for mature gamers (mature in a sense that they've been gaming for quite some time).
As for the whole pulled a sliver out surgeon thing, of course you need to go to medical school to advertise yourself as a surgeon. Who the hell is going to pay you when your a freakin self-taught surgeon? In this wonderful day and age, you don't need any sort of 'gamedev education', you can self learn, and make games that look prettier than Doom 3. You would be amazed at the things people made, and they are in middle school or high school, I was amazed when I found out how old a certain someone was after seeing what he made.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
Some how the RPG in MMORPG seems to mean raising your numbers/stats higher, but you can play the role of someone without all that grind. You can have a medieval game in which player skill is what matters, and even introduce character building via stats in ways that the player will not even notice, let them build their character through playing the game how they want, not forcing them to do the whole level treadmill to compete.
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Sorry, I caught this little guy on page like 3 of this thread and laughed out loud. Had to say thanks to Damonville for such a brilliant piece of thread punctuation.
There needs to be one for laughing-out-loud though...
Sheesh what a fuss and ruckus, and all for nothing. Scott, while you may be well spoken and come across seemingly intellegent , your whole "I hate everyone cause they like a game i dont and now they will never make a game i like again!!!!!" tantrum shows your maturity. Your logic that no one will make games you like anymore because of WoW's popularity is the logic of a kid.... a very young kid. Your logic is also wrong.
You want games with more skill based combat and involvement, all you had to do is take the time you wasted writing your "hate post" and just read alittle bit about current games in development.
Heres just a sample of mmogs that will offer twitch and skill in their combat;
-Huxley
-Age of Conan
-DDO
-The Chronicle
-The Chronicles of Spellborn
-Face of Mankind
-Gods and Hereos
-Roma Victor
-Auto Assault
-Darkfall
There are also just as many games in dev. with WoW style combat as well. Luckily game developers are alittle older then 17 and realize there is room and demand in the game market for different play styles. I myself like alittle twitch in my games while many people i know dont care for it ... especially in their mmorpgs.
I really hate coming down on you but your opinion that people that like games you dont are stupid, coupled with your hope/wish/want they leave the gaming market so devs can concentrate on games you like is just plain arrogant and very selfish.
So please just grow up and learn to live and let live!!
Are you enlightened Yet?
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
I agree with everything you say, minus the seemingly intelligent part.
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
MMORPG
M-assively
M-ultiplayer
O-online
R-ole
P-laying
G-ame
Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers, saying LOLZ! Aggro! and all that other shit is not roleplaying. Face of Mankind is definately an MMORPG, you are supposed to play the role of your character, you are encouraged to, the world was built around this.
It's pretty surprising how narrow minded you are. It's been made abundantly clear to you here that not all players want to have a game based on how fast they can mash thier keys.
MMORPGs evolved from PnP games like D&D not from counter strike people who wanted a bigger world to walk around in. D&D and games like it where all about RPing and every skill in that game was based on numbers and dice rolls not your ability to beat up the DM.
So what other MMOG's have you played? Its like sex, if you've only had it bad, you don't know what its like good, and you probably are thinking thats as good as it gets.
the single most heart-thumping, exilerating, sweat inducing PVP-game I've ever played was JUMPGATE... a perfect game that was unfortunately ruined by the player base.
It's a fact in business that if you try to fulfill everyones desires, you end up loosing...
Additionally, role-playing doesn't strictly mean role-playing. Mmorpgs, you are playing a character in a world, that is as far as most people take roleplaying. Good luck finding the game you are looking for. By the way, Morrowind could be a suggestion.
As to game development companies making movies, this is what gaming is moving towards, no matter the genre. Gaming is not just gaming it is an experience, alike a movie.
MMORPG
M-assively
M-ultiplayer
O-online
R-ole
P-laying
G-ame
Role Playing. This means playing the role of your character. Not raising numbers, saying LOLZ! Aggro! and all that other shit is not roleplaying. Face of Mankind is definately an MMORPG, you are supposed to play the role of your character, you are encouraged to, the world was built around this.
Wow okay, buddy.
This is YOUR idea of what it meens. There is this wonderful thing PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
Just because you think one way, doesnt meen that how other people think is wrong. They think differently, the sooner you learn this, the sooner you can start getting along with people.
You need to seriously grow up. Cause right now, your wasting your time. You are making an idiot of yourself. This really doesnt matter on the internet, but usually people dont act completely different in the internet from how they are in real life...
And for reference, were not calling you a wow-hater... were calling you an immature elitist and to be frank -- thats worse.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...