You keep saying "If you have not noticed, the Xbox out sold the PS4 duing the past holiday season by a significant margin." as if there was any truth to this. More PS4s where sold in the US than the XBox One, let alone the 4-1 sales in Europe. The XBox One lost the war big time. Will Project Scorpio save MS? Time will tell and I hope so as more competition is a good thing.
Drink too much koolaid lately? Did you read what I wrote. I said the Xbox outsold the PS4 during the Xmas season. It is ok to be a PS4 bigot, but I feel sorry for people who hide their head in the sand.
If you read my posts I have an Xbox1, and NO Sony game consoles at all. Yep, I'm a koolaid drinking PS4 bigot that bought the machine I hate just to torture myself.
With that out of the way why are you saying the XBox1 outsold the PS4 during the 2016 Xmas season? All I can find is that the PS4 outsold in the US and 2-1 worldwide during the 2016 Xmas season. The Xbox only outsold in the US in Jul-Oct, 4 months only in the US.. You keep saying it, but that does not make it true.
I really want to know where you get your information?
You keep saying "If you have not noticed, the Xbox out sold the PS4 duing the past holiday season by a significant margin." as if there was any truth to this. More PS4s where sold in the US than the XBox One, let alone the 4-1 sales in Europe. The XBox One lost the war big time. Will Project Scorpio save MS? Time will tell and I hope so as more competition is a good thing.
Drink too much koolaid lately? Did you read what I wrote. I said the Xbox outsold the PS4 during the Xmas season. It is ok to be a PS4 bigot, but I feel sorry for people who hide their head in the sand.
If you read my posts I have an Xbox1, and NO Sony game consoles at all. Yep, I'm a koolaid drinking PS4 bigot that bought the machine I hate just to torture myself.
With that out of the way why are you saying the XBox1 outsold the PS4 during the 2016 Xmas season? All I can find is that the PS4 outsold in the US and 2-1 worldwide during the 2016 Xmas season. The Xbox only outsold in the US in Jul-Oct, 4 months only in the US.. You keep saying it, but that does not make it true.
I really want to know where you get your information?
With that out of the way why are you saying the XBox1 outsold the PS4 during the 2016 Xmas season? All I can find is that the PS4 outsold in the US and 2-1 worldwide during the 2016 Xmas season. The Xbox only outsold in the US in Jul-Oct, 4 months only in the US.. You keep saying it, but that does not make it true.
I really want to know where you get your information?
The Xbox only outsold the PS4 for 4 months, you know the 4 months between the announcement of the PS4 Pro and its release.
Lets start with a quote from the 1st article for @mmorobo which explains it all for him: "Ending Xbox One’s four-month winning streak, the NPD has revealed that PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console in the United States in November 2016.". In this period June to October 2016 the XB1 might have outsold the PS4 for the reason that most people willing to buy a PS4 were waiting for the Pro (released late October) and thus PS4 sales would have collapsed a bit.
It's also very funny that in the 2nd article you link, MS only speaks of "In November and December we saw Xbox Live engagement reach an all-time high of 3.9 billion hours" and not actual players (you know, one of the strategies that F2P games use - we have an <X> amount of REGISTERED users). Okay, that's a lot of time spent, but when the average gamer would play (while XBOX live actually counts time connected to the MS servers, including those using the XBOX to watch Netflix or a DVD/BluRay) only about 2-3 hours a day on the console and calculate this down (3.9*10^9 hours / 61 days / 3 gaming hours a day), you would come at around 21.3M players in total. And keep in mind that it's XBOX LIVE ENGAGEMENT, which also includes XB360. Putting the number down like this it makes the 3.9B hours less awesome...
Obviously anyone waiting for the Pro would not buy during that period and to actually point to an increase in sale for the Xbox One while people are waiting for the Pro is easily distinguished by the rise when the Pro came out. But seriously this battle will go on for awhile yet and what determines the success of a console is the games it offers in the end.
was pretty much over before it really began, the PS4 totally dominated console sales world wide, helped in no small part by microsofts focus on making a media machine, instead of a games machine, a losing strategy that i think microsoft has now backtracked on, certainly seperating the kinnect helped shift consoles for them, but by that point the war was already over and the clear winner was Sony. Now however we have a new entrant with Nintendo's 'switch' which isn't really a console so much as a tablet gaming device that can be docked up to a TV, though whether it can compete with other tablet devices will pretty much rely on its abilities as a multimedia device, which, may be a problem, a fairly significant one given the 'switch's current price point and limited games library, if its going to compete it is going to need to support services such as netflix, amazon video etc. something consoles and tablet devices generally do with ease.
Prefer Xbox by a large margin. Online is sooo much better then ps4s attempt.
That Microsoft charges you extra for online, despite them not actually being an ISP, or providing internet access themselves, that Sony does the same doesn't make it any less contemptible, nor does the fact that both Microsoft and Sony throttling the download speeds regardless of the bandwidth available say much for either service, they are both less than ideal and definitely not of the same standard as that of the services accessible for free, by PC users. O.o
I'm not really a console guy at all, my X1 sits for months on end if not a better part of year before I'll actually use it. lol So... i didn't get the pro i went with the slim to play HZD, haven't even opened the box yet, lol, will soon. I'm sure the Pro is better and all that but reality is at the end of the day it's a console, and much like the X1 it's going to end up sitting there "off" for months on end too. Before i know it the PS5 and X2 will be coming out so... not over investing here. WOW! omg thinking about it...that gigantic PS3 is going to be moved, lol, it's literally sat there for years without ever being turned on.
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Prefer Xbox by a large margin. Online is sooo much better then ps4s attempt.
That Microsoft charges you extra for online, despite them not actually being an ISP, or providing internet access themselves, that Sony does the same doesn't make it any less contemptible, nor does the fact that both Microsoft and Sony throttling the download speeds regardless of the bandwidth available say much for either service, they are both less than ideal and definitely not of the same standard as that of the services accessible for free, by PC users. O.o
Its just better IMO. I have both and find XBOX better online experience.
Yeah it seems that Poverty Boxes are getting all the love as of late
DaFuQ are these PC game developers doing? Mass Effect: Andromeda
I have PS4 Pro (HZD is amazing) , Xbox One-S, and PC with GTX1080. I play the XBONE the most. I will be playing the new ME game on Xbox for nostalgia reasons since I played the OG trilogy on xbox. "Poverty" box is the wrong word.. more like Fun Box. Also "PC game devz" ? I never got the whole battle between gaming environments. All are good, so play all if you can.
hmm Idk but all my favs made games for console that later get ported to PC. Bethesda, Bioware, Rockstar etc. This is because more people have a gaming console than a gaming PC. Its business but it takes nothing away from the games for me. If games are console or PC whatev.. long as its great, Im gonna play it.
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Prefer Xbox by a large margin. Online is sooo much better then ps4s attempt.
That Microsoft charges you extra for online, despite them not actually being an ISP, or providing internet access themselves, that Sony does the same doesn't make it any less contemptible, nor does the fact that both Microsoft and Sony throttling the download speeds regardless of the bandwidth available say much for either service, they are both less than ideal and definitely not of the same standard as that of the services accessible for free, by PC users. O.o
Its just better IMO. I have both and find XBOX better online experience.
But is it worth the extra $10 a month, i mean, thats what PC users pay for an actual MMO subscription, that Microsoft and Sony also charges an extra $10 a month for online access, and thats before you even shell out for a game subscription, and on top of your ISP costs too, at that price i would not be happy with my internet bandwidth being throttled, that xbox live looks better than ps plus is kind of irrelevant if they are both somewhat substandard and expensive services to begin with.
But is it worth the extra $10 a month, i mean, thats what PC users pay for an actual MMO subscription, that Microsoft and Sony also charges an extra $10 a month for online access, and thats before you even shell out for a game subscription, and on top of your ISP costs too, at that price i would not be happy with my internet bandwidth being throttled, that xbox live looks better than ps plus is kind of irrelevant if they are both somewhat substandard and expensive services to begin with.
I don't think many people actually pay £10 per month for them, yearly prices are only ~£32 for playstation and ~£36 for xbox live if you buy them in one of the frequent sales they have or from somewhere like CD Keys.
Personally i would rather not have to pay for PS+ but there are plenty of people think it's worth it just for the free games every month.
F'it I'll grab the pro and stop thinking about it. I know it sounds silly buying a console for a game, but it's the first game to come along to entice me to upgrade from the PS3, it was an eventuality.
I guess a better question is PS5? Any word? news?
Hundreds of thousands of people just did this this week alone with the Switch for Zelda. You are not alone now excuse me while I go back to playing Breath of the Wild.
Game looks good but its repetitive and to much cutscenes. And if it is no cutscene you walk next to a npc for 10mins. Its crazy how much time you spend in this game doing nothing. They say its a mix from skyrim and some others.... hell no.... it rly looks good but it gets boring sooooooo fast......shame
It is a story driven game. It is doing exactly what it is supposed to. Those cutscenes and all of the talking draw you into the game world and the story. Not sure how this is a drawback. If you don't like all of the story, go play Diablo 3 or Call of Duty...
Prefer Xbox by a large margin. Online is sooo much better then ps4s attempt.
That Microsoft charges you extra for online, despite them not actually being an ISP, or providing internet access themselves, that Sony does the same doesn't make it any less contemptible, nor does the fact that both Microsoft and Sony throttling the download speeds regardless of the bandwidth available say much for either service, they are both less than ideal and definitely not of the same standard as that of the services accessible for free, by PC users. O.o
Its just better IMO. I have both and find XBOX better online experience.
But is it worth the extra $10 a month, i mean, thats what PC users pay for an actual MMO subscription, that Microsoft and Sony also charges an extra $10 a month for online access, and thats before you even shell out for a game subscription, and on top of your ISP costs too, at that price i would not be happy with my internet bandwidth being throttled, that xbox live looks better than ps plus is kind of irrelevant if they are both somewhat substandard and expensive services to begin with.
I get xbox live for the kids for $38 a year, there are plenty of available discounts on this. No one buys it monthly.
Didn't take long.already dropped down to #21 on Twitch in a week or less,basically over two days went from top 5 to 21.
It gives a real indication of how much bandwagon jumping gamer's are doing.It's new ,buy it because everyone else is ,then when you see everyone else jumping ship we all leave.
It also shows a real ad state of gaming when pretty much aside from the same 4/5 that have been there forever,the ONLY other game that remains top 10 at times has been H1Z1 and that is not even a game played,people just play i for the DM mod. So a very cheap ass mod remains more popular than all of these big name or bandwagon titles past the one month period.
It shows that NONE of these games are holding any interest past a month and MOST are sooner like 1-2 weeks.That is a real good indication of how bad game development is right now.
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Prefer Xbox by a large margin. Online is sooo much better then ps4s attempt.
That Microsoft charges you extra for online, despite them not actually being an ISP, or providing internet access themselves, that Sony does the same doesn't make it any less contemptible, nor does the fact that both Microsoft and Sony throttling the download speeds regardless of the bandwidth available say much for either service, they are both less than ideal and definitely not of the same standard as that of the services accessible for free, by PC users. O.o
Its just better IMO. I have both and find XBOX better online experience.
But is it worth the extra $10 a month, i mean, thats what PC users pay for an actual MMO subscription, that Microsoft and Sony also charges an extra $10 a month for online access, and thats before you even shell out for a game subscription, and on top of your ISP costs too, at that price i would not be happy with my internet bandwidth being throttled, that xbox live looks better than ps plus is kind of irrelevant if they are both somewhat substandard and expensive services to begin with.
Now sure what MS charges for their online 'services', but SONY charges €6.50 a month and a year costs €50. Also, on PSN, subscription MMOs (FFXIV:ARR only so far) don't require PS+ to play online. This might also be one of the reasons FFXIV:ARR has not been ported to XB1 yet, because of a greedy MS...
I don’t just mean beautiful for a PS4 game. I mean it is beautiful for any game. It is quite possibly the best looking game I have ever played on any system be it console or PC. I play the game on a PS4 Pro and do have a 4K TV. I have the settings turned on for visuals over performance but even then I still haven’t even noticed frame drop and I’ve encountered giant boss battles and had numerous enemies running around the screen at the same time. I’m not a techno wizard so I can’t explain to you how all of this works but I’m honestly surprised they can squeeze this much performance out of the PS4. Something else that makes the game really stand out is the hair is fantastic. While another recent game like Final Fantasy XV looked good the hair was just not right. HZD blows it out of the water. Even the characters skin is realistic. The pores on Aloy's cheeks blow my mind and the scar on her forehead isn’t some big garish thing like it would be in other games. Instead after 10 years it’s faded into a pockmark that you would see in real life.
I'm playing on a Pro as well on 1080p and enhanced mode as well (and you do see the difference between 'normal' Slim mode and 'enhanced' Pro mode), and I know how they managed to squeeze the max out(?) of the game - did you not hear the fans go nuts at times? The Pro is REALLY in need of some serious fan cooling at times I also noticed the near perfect faces and hair - it's simply stunning so well done they are. Also how the models (Aloy mostly ) are animated and the grass waves through the wind and when you walk / crouch trough it - SIMPLY STUNNING!
So far I'm a bit over 8 hours in the game and still gotta leave the valley. Getting there (ready for it actually), but making sure I'm well stocked up for the journey ahead.
About the main plot... I have some guesses already and won't drop them here. It wouldn't be the first time that my guesses about a plot are correct and I spoil it for others (my wife hates to watch tv with me because I see the plot so quickly...)
FYI, the PS4 Pro Enhance Mode is for 4k gaming. If you do not have a 4K TV, this is pointless, so it is probably why your Pro's fans are running overtime. I wouldn't use the Enhance mode until your get a 4K TV, that is where the Pro shines.... if your just going to stick with 1080 then just don't use the Enhance mode. Either way, your game should still look amazing on the TV you have, the Pro is a more advance machine and brings out the best in every game, with or without Enhance Mode/4K TV.
I don’t just mean beautiful for a PS4 game. I mean it is beautiful for any game. It is quite possibly the best looking game I have ever played on any system be it console or PC. I play the game on a PS4 Pro and do have a 4K TV. I have the settings turned on for visuals over performance but even then I still haven’t even noticed frame drop and I’ve encountered giant boss battles and had numerous enemies running around the screen at the same time. I’m not a techno wizard so I can’t explain to you how all of this works but I’m honestly surprised they can squeeze this much performance out of the PS4. Something else that makes the game really stand out is the hair is fantastic. While another recent game like Final Fantasy XV looked good the hair was just not right. HZD blows it out of the water. Even the characters skin is realistic. The pores on Aloy's cheeks blow my mind and the scar on her forehead isn’t some big garish thing like it would be in other games. Instead after 10 years it’s faded into a pockmark that you would see in real life.
I'm playing on a Pro as well on 1080p and enhanced mode as well (and you do see the difference between 'normal' Slim mode and 'enhanced' Pro mode), and I know how they managed to squeeze the max out(?) of the game - did you not hear the fans go nuts at times? The Pro is REALLY in need of some serious fan cooling at times I also noticed the near perfect faces and hair - it's simply stunning so well done they are. Also how the models (Aloy mostly ) are animated and the grass waves through the wind and when you walk / crouch trough it - SIMPLY STUNNING!
So far I'm a bit over 8 hours in the game and still gotta leave the valley. Getting there (ready for it actually), but making sure I'm well stocked up for the journey ahead.
About the main plot... I have some guesses already and won't drop them here. It wouldn't be the first time that my guesses about a plot are correct and I spoil it for others (my wife hates to watch tv with me because I see the plot so quickly...)
FYI, the PS4 Pro Enhance Mode is for 4k gaming. If you do not have a 4K TV, this is pointless, so it is probably why your Pro's fans are running overtime. I wouldn't use the Enhance mode until your get a 4K TV, that is where the Pro shines.... if your just going to stick with 1080 then just don't use the Enhance mode. Either way, your game should still look amazing on the TV you have, the Pro is a more advance machine and brings out the best in every game, with or without Enhance Mode/4K TV.
The Pro can't do 4k, it is an upscaled 2k you are seeing.
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With that out of the way why are you saying the XBox1 outsold the PS4 during the 2016 Xmas season? All I can find is that the PS4 outsold in the US and 2-1 worldwide during the 2016 Xmas season. The Xbox only outsold in the US in Jul-Oct, 4 months only in the US.. You keep saying it, but that does not make it true.
I really want to know where you get your information?
Here is mine:
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/12/09/november-2016-npd-ps4-outsells-xbox-one-first-time-since-june/
http://www.geekwire.com/2017/xbox-one-tops-playstation-4-u-s-sales-second-half-2016/
The Xbox only outsold the PS4 for 4 months, you know the 4 months between the announcement of the PS4 Pro and its release.
It's also very funny that in the 2nd article you link, MS only speaks of "In November and December we saw Xbox Live engagement reach an all-time high of 3.9 billion hours" and not actual players (you know, one of the strategies that F2P games use - we have an <X> amount of REGISTERED users). Okay, that's a lot of time spent, but when the average gamer would play (while XBOX live actually counts time connected to the MS servers, including those using the XBOX to watch Netflix or a DVD/BluRay) only about 2-3 hours a day on the console and calculate this down (3.9*10^9 hours / 61 days / 3 gaming hours a day), you would come at around 21.3M players in total. And keep in mind that it's XBOX LIVE ENGAGEMENT, which also includes XB360. Putting the number down like this it makes the 3.9B hours less awesome...
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Now however we have a new entrant with Nintendo's 'switch' which isn't really a console so much as a tablet gaming device that can be docked up to a TV, though whether it can compete with other tablet devices will pretty much rely on its abilities as a multimedia device, which, may be a problem, a fairly significant one given the 'switch's current price point and limited games library, if its going to compete it is going to need to support services such as netflix, amazon video etc. something consoles and tablet devices generally do with ease.
So... i didn't get the pro i went with the slim to play HZD, haven't even opened the box yet, lol, will soon. I'm sure the Pro is better and all that but reality is at the end of the day it's a console, and much like the X1 it's going to end up sitting there "off" for months on end too.
Before i know it the PS5 and X2 will be coming out so... not over investing here. WOW! omg thinking about it...that gigantic PS3 is going to be moved, lol, it's literally sat there for years without ever being turned on.
Its just better IMO. I have both and find XBOX better online experience.
I have PS4 Pro (HZD is amazing) , Xbox One-S, and PC with GTX1080. I play the XBONE the most. I will be playing the new ME game on Xbox for nostalgia reasons since I played the OG trilogy on xbox. "Poverty" box is the wrong word.. more like Fun Box. Also "PC game devz" ? I never got the whole battle between gaming environments. All are good, so play all if you can.
hmm Idk but all my favs made games for console that later get ported to PC. Bethesda, Bioware, Rockstar etc. This is because more people have a gaming console than a gaming PC. Its business but it takes nothing away from the games for me. If games are console or PC whatev.. long as its great, Im gonna play it.
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the story explains it perfectly. It makes sense within concept. Its nothing like ARK if you are thinking that lol.
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I don't think many people actually pay £10 per month for them, yearly prices are only ~£32 for playstation and ~£36 for xbox live if you buy them in one of the frequent sales they have or from somewhere like CD Keys.
Personally i would rather not have to pay for PS+ but there are plenty of people think it's worth it just for the free games every month.
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It is a story driven game. It is doing exactly what it is supposed to. Those cutscenes and all of the talking draw you into the game world and the story. Not sure how this is a drawback. If you don't like all of the story, go play Diablo 3 or Call of Duty...
It gives a real indication of how much bandwagon jumping gamer's are doing.It's new ,buy it because everyone else is ,then when you see everyone else jumping ship we all leave.
It also shows a real ad state of gaming when pretty much aside from the same 4/5 that have been there forever,the ONLY other game that remains top 10 at times has been H1Z1 and that is not even a game played,people just play i for the DM mod.
So a very cheap ass mod remains more popular than all of these big name or bandwagon titles past the one month period.
It shows that NONE of these games are holding any interest past a month and MOST are sooner like 1-2 weeks.That is a real good indication of how bad game development is right now.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I am enjoying the game, but had to laugh when I saw this picture in reddit, this is my experience:
FYI, the PS4 Pro Enhance Mode is for 4k gaming. If you do not have a 4K TV, this is pointless, so it is probably why your Pro's fans are running overtime. I wouldn't use the Enhance mode until your get a 4K TV, that is where the Pro shines.... if your just going to stick with 1080 then just don't use the Enhance mode. Either way, your game should still look amazing on the TV you have, the Pro is a more advance machine and brings out the best in every game, with or without Enhance Mode/4K TV.