Originally posted by Rimcy SOE's problem is very simple. Money... For so long they were the only kid on the block. With the huge success of EQ1, they became the standard for mmorpg's. In this success they got more corporate mentality. This mentality has caused them to forget the desires of the gamers community and they only think of "how can we make more?". You can see this in all of their games now. Just simply turn on any SOE game and sit back and watch the ads roll. Because of their popular games, advertisments have become the new standard for SOE. The SOE of today makes games that "they" want you to play, instead of the games that the "players" want to play. This mentality is why I will never purchase any SOE game again. Ever.... Rimcy
Despite what you might believe in that Fairy-Land World of yours, SOE is a business. Therefore, you can't expect them to listen to and implement every single suggestion a player makes. God forbid a company should try to promote their games in order to make more money. Last time I checked, any business needs money. If SOE just sat around brainstorming all day for a game that satisfied every single gamer, it would likely never get created, and if it did, it would probably suck. No one's forcing you to play their games, and I doubt they care that you are boycotting them. Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
Make no mistake. The problem wasn't that SOE was shady about the way they handled the changes, although that in and of itself was a huge problem.
The changes themselves suck monkey balls glistening with urine. The NGE is without a doubt, hands down the biggest slap in the face to ANY long time subscribing costumer. Not just that. the functionality sucks, is broken, unintuitive, and will never be fun.
The completely ignore the customer base and dumb down a game that, in that incarnation, had alot of potential.
After the NGE went live, my guild mates and I logged in every night like usual, but we were shocked, hurt, and beyond disapointed. We all ended up leaving shortly there after, and I'm positive that we weren't the only ones.
As it stands now, I have in the past and will always be drawn to the Star Wars Mythos and any game (sans RTS games cause I hate those) set in the Star Wars Universe. I wish that a good company would design and develop a new Star Wars MMO, but I don't have alot of faith that that will happen.
A NWN-esque PC game that allowed us to make our own mods to play on-line, and a combat system based on the d20 Star Wars PnP game would be awesome, but somewhere down the line either Lucas turned to the darkside (spelled corporate) or the communication between LA and SOE is non-existant. Any person involved with maintaining the Cannon of the Star Wars Universe could see SOE had no business handling the Star Wars liscense.
Originally posted by Kryogenic Make no mistake. The problem wasn't that SOE was shady about the way they handled the changes, although that in and of itself was a huge problem. The changes themselves suck monkey balls glistening with urine. The NGE is without a doubt, hands down the biggest slap in the face to ANY long time subscribing costumer. Not just that. the functionality sucks, is broken, unintuitive, and will never be fun. The completely ignore the customer base and dumb down a game that, in that incarnation, had alot of potential. After the NGE went live, my guild mates and I logged in every night like usual, but we were shocked, hurt, and beyond disapointed. We all ended up leaving shortly there after, and I'm positive that we weren't the only ones. As it stands now, I have in the past and will always be drawn to the Star Wars Mythos and any game (sans RTS games cause I hate those) set in the Star Wars Universe. I wish that a good company would design and develop a new Star Wars MMO, but I don't have alot of faith that that will happen. A NWN-esque PC game that allowed us to make our own mods to play on-line, and a combat system based on the d20 Star Wars PnP game would be awesome, but somewhere down the line either Lucas turned to the darkside (spelled corporate) or the communication between LA and SOE is non-existant. Any person involved with maintaining the Cannon of the Star Wars Universe could see SOE had no business handling the Star Wars liscense.
It was mainly bad business on $OE's part. They believed that the way to increase customers was to wage war amongst their most loyal fan base. It makes no sense, and the customers you achieve are mythical at best.
It's now patently obvious (and it was back when it was released) the NGE is NOT what the playerbase wanted. If they took focus groups, they used biased samples. They should've learned their lesson with the CU. Whatever one thought of it (and I think it was a mixed bag once one looked at it objectively) the CU was NOT what the playerbase wanted. $OE received a huge blackeye with the CU the way they handled it.
And then once they found out what people wanted, make sure it works. $OE didn't do this. They released a product that wasn't even in beta-phase. The first 3 months of the NGE were alpha. And once again they are forcing people to pay while they beta test. (REmember smedley saying the reasont he CU was pushed out originally so fast was not enough people beta tested it so they needed a good sample?)
This isn't even debating the merits of the changes
If the NGE was all about money... why not come out with a classic server? Just one? I'm not familiar with how many man-hours involved with porting neccessary expansions to pre-cu.... start with a blank server to eliminate having to port items, and let's start over. I'd sub for that.
I will NOT sub for the NGE in any form it may take however... nor will I purchase a single Sony product.
Guess I'll wait till Vanguard comes out and play it untill SWG2
Originally posted by jonaku For all you SWG subscribers who continue to subscribe and complain and hope for a better tomorrow, you ARE the very worse thing to happen to SWG. You are singlehandledly responsible for the continuing slow death of this game. Why? Because your subscriptions continue to fund the incompetence at SOE. You're like the mother who continue to let her alcoholic heroine-addicted son live in her basement for 10 years and then wonders why he doesn't spontaneously get a life and get a job. It's called ENABLEMENT people. When I see those posts on swg.com complaining about NGE bugs or lack of features, it truly sickens me. These people are complete and utter morons. If you love the game, you should quit it and stay quitted until the game goes bankrupt and SOE/LA have NO FINANCIAL CHOICE but to give the license to another company or do a mea culpa roll-back. Until then, I say the greatest enemy, the greatest parasitic plague on the once great pre-CU SWG are the current subscribers.
this is one of the worst analogies i have ever heard
;lol omg... ok the goal of an mmo is to become meth. it is to force people to want it so bad they live in their parents basement.
crunch and grind does not equal a good game inspiration does.
slave labor and anti drug policies are for china where cheap labor must be exploited to do menial and automatonic work for 19 hours a day.
games require something else.
example, note that fact that swg has gone DOWNHILL
obviously more focus and less crack caused that effort does not equal happy, does not equal good
Originally posted by jonaku For all you SWG subscribers who continue to subscribe and complain and hope for a better tomorrow, you ARE the very worse thing to happen to SWG. You are singlehandledly responsible for the continuing slow death of this game. Why? Because your subscriptions continue to fund the incompetence at SOE. You're like the mother who continue to let her alcoholic heroine-addicted son live in her basement for 10 years and then wonders why he doesn't spontaneously get a life and get a job. It's called ENABLEMENT people. When I see those posts on swg.com complaining about NGE bugs or lack of features, it truly sickens me. These people are complete and utter morons. If you love the game, you should quit it and stay quitted until the game goes bankrupt and SOE/LA have NO FINANCIAL CHOICE but to give the license to another company or do a mea culpa roll-back. Until then, I say the greatest enemy, the greatest parasitic plague on the once great pre-CU SWG are the current subscribers.
I have to admit i am a heroine addict too. Wonder Woman especially, couldn't get enough of that outfit. Don't live with me mum though.
To all people still paying for SWG or plan on paying for it,pictures this in your mind and think twice about it.
In a evil software office far far away....
Smedley:Hmm the NGE is the worst thing ever that happened to any game.
Julio:Lol yeah,great work team (he looks around but only he and Smedley were left from the dev team because the rest did not like that they lied to the customers)
Smedley:WTF look,they are canceling soo fast...rofl.
Julio:Heh,let's wait afew days and see what happens.
Smedley:(after 2 weeks) id realy could use some money to buy my doomsday device.
Julio:OMG,look the n00bz are comming back,rofl.
Smedley:lol ,the game is crap and they are still playing it,but they are paying ,wohoo.Now I have more money to order pron.
Julio:Look at the n00bz complaining lol,they are soo stupid we are never going to have to revert back to CU at this rate we are going to make $$$ again.
Smedley:hmm let's feed them afew lies about the future publishes,that should convience them to give us more $$$!
Originally posted by tvalentine ROFL ARE YOU KIDDING ME? they all say the same thing!! and are from the same site!!! the $OE SITE 3/4s of the people can see past this on these forums, your making yourself look worse it looks like you didnt even read these links, because it sounds like all $OE its got the name LucasArts but even still IF hypotheticaly speaking that was them these links dont even mean that they didnt make a deal with another company to make ANOTHER STAR WARS GAME
Although it does leave one question.
If LA has a deal in place with another company to develop another Star Wars MMO, why the secrecy? If you were developing a new Star Wars game, wouldn't you want it publicly announced simply from the standpoint of raising capital for the venture?
Not really, if u let the cat out of the bag to soon, i think everyone involved with SWG and maybe a new MMO would lose more financialy. I agree with most that the rumors of a new company developing a new SW MMO is likely happening.
I am also in the mindset that SWG will hit the PS3 when it launches, i think they had the plans to go with that, but the PS3 launch date was pushed back, so they had to scrap thier release date to port the game.
The big thing about all this, that points in the direction most seem to think SWG is heading in, is the fact that, the devs won't setup a classic server. If they were so interested about making more money and bringing in a huge amount of subs, surely they would setup a few servers that cater to the vets of the game.
Everyone that is playing SWG right now, is only in my opinion paying for a huge beta test for the ported version when it goes live. If LA/Bioware, right now would come out and give info about a new SW MMO, they would surely hurt their relationship with SOE, and that would cause LA to possibly lose more money from a license stantpoint.
Something big is going on, and until, something is put out and made a fact, everyone who is still playing and all who doesn't need to sit back and wait.
Despite what you might believe in that Fairy-Land World of yours, SOE is a business. Therefore, you can't expect them to listen to and implement every single suggestion a player makes. God forbid a company should try to promote their games in order to make more money. Last time I checked, any business needs money. If SOE just sat around brainstorming all day for a game that satisfied every single gamer, it would likely never get created, and if it did, it would probably suck. No one's forcing you to play their games, and I doubt they care that you are boycotting them. Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
In a small way your are right that some times certain things that players want aren't suitable to impliment or not possible or just a bad thing for a game. Using your same logic however, SOE is indeed a business. No business should flat out lie to its customers. What would you do if everytime you went to wal-mart to buy a game like Fear you got a DVD of Sound of Music. or you wanted to buy some Budweiser beer and when you get home its Schlitz in the can. Point is Yes they are a business and they are responsible to the ones who pay the money for the game they own. They pushed out the cu and took a huge black eye for it. What did they learn. Nothing. They continued to lie and forge ahead with nge, even though the cu was never really accepted and caused a substantial drop in subs. Your telling me that SOE is a business and can't be bothered to maintain a product that was already successful is obsurd. No they wont please all the people all the time but they can please most of the people most of the time. What they did is piss off damn near everyone permanently. Nuff Said.
A business that wants to grow and flourish without exploiting their customer base, always has to listen to their customers. Without happy returning customers there is no business.
SOE are exploiting the trademark and status of Star Wars to continue this game. Always have been IMO.
SOE are exploiting the trademark and status of Star Wars to continue this game. Always have been IMO.
I totally agree. Even from release they botched up the timeline and acronyms. CDEF should have ben CEDF, which doesn't even come into play until the Chiss become apart of the story, and that sure isn't during the time period SWG started in.
By the time the NGE rolled around SWG's timeline was basically a frankenstien's monster of bits and pieces from post and pre episode 4.
I support the game and the Dev team. I think they are really trying hard to make the game fun. I think that in time SWG will be the success it has always been capable of.
Listening to the same old negative talking points has gotten so old. I certainly am not going to quit simply because someone else did.
Originally posted by HyborianHero I support the game and the Dev team. I think they are really trying hard to make the game fun. I think that in time SWG will be the success it has always been capable of. Listening to the same old negative talking points has gotten so old. I certainly am not going to quit simply because someone else did.
SWG will never be a success anymore, it's basically a grindfest with nothing really special about it. Also with all the negative press SOE are getting over SWG, nobody in the right mind would go near it.
It will be a success though I reckon, when bioware create their star wars mmo and then everyone will be happy!
Originally posted by rekkor Originally posted by crunch123
Despite what you might believe in that Fairy-Land World of yours, SOE is a business. Therefore, you can't expect them to listen to and implement every single suggestion a player makes. God forbid a company should try to promote their games in order to make more money. Last time I checked, any business needs money. If SOE just sat around brainstorming all day for a game that satisfied every single gamer, it would likely never get created, and if it did, it would probably suck. No one's forcing you to play their games, and I doubt they care that you are boycotting them. Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
They pushed out the cu and took a huge black eye for it. What did they learn. Nothing. They continued to lie and forge ahead with nge, even though the cu was never really accepted and caused a substantial drop in subs.
I came back to the game in August before NGE hit and it was pretty lively, a lot more lively than it was back before cu hit. I personally didn't like the cu but it seemed to bring in quite a few subs. I came back to the game in August before NGE hit and it was pretty lively, a lot more lively than it was back before cu hit. I personally didn't like the cu but it seemed to bring in quite a few subs.
Originally posted by HyborianHero I support the game and the Dev team. I think they are really trying hard to make the game fun. I think that in time SWG will be the success it has always been capable of. Listening to the same old negative talking points has gotten so old. I certainly am not going to quit simply because someone else did.
If you're enjoying the NGE, then don't quit. I hope you enjoy playing with the 20 other people on your server. That's SO much better than the pre-CU days when there would thousands online simultaneously with a robust economy and PVP and PVE hunting groups. So what if the NGE reduced the human player population by 95%? At least the game mechanics are more iconic and star warsy. Yay!!!11111!!11
/sarcasmOff
But srsly, if you're happy with NGE, than go ahead and enjoy it. But don't try to squash our attempts to seek reform in SWG. I think it's outrageously naive to believe that if things continue the way they are, that "SWG will be the success it has always been capable of." O Rly? LOL
My OP is more directed towards people currently playing NGE and disliking (1) the game mechanics (2) the bugs (3) the low player population. My message to them is that if they want to accelerate reform at SWG, they need to quit and stop financially supporting the currently dysfunctional management of the game. Continuing to subscribe will ONLY result in the prolonging of incompetent management and NOT an improvement in the game experience.
I recently quit Star Wars Galaxies about a month or so ago. After playing since release, clicking that cancel button was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Corpse runs, no vehicles, grinding my char to Master Rifle (you guys know how hard that grind was) without ever using a SINGLE buff, the COOL feeling I got everytime I saw one of those rare Jedi, my first scythe, NS group hunting, profession grind...etc
Notice anything? All my great memories are pre-cu. I have this to say about the NGE...It's fantastic for the average or casual gamer. I'm perfectly willing to admit that. The problem? WE AREN'T THEM. I miss having to wait an hour getting buffed etc. before I could actually do anything. Steep learning curve noob? Deal with it. The rest of us did.
I feel like there is no point to the game. Ok, so you have a sword with 300-500 dmg. Fantastic. I'm 20 levels higher than you, watch me kill you with my spoon.
And that weapon/armor you spent a month getting...yeah...be sure to donate it instead of just throwing it out. It's now worthless.
You don't like the game? That's funny...last time I checked you were still paying. Why would you pay if you hated the game? I guess that means you like it...and if your complaint about that wasn't true, why should the rest of your complaints be taken seriously?
Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by tvalentine Bioware alrdy bought the license and heres a msg for obraik (99% chance your reading this) jonaku your right let it die and wait another 2-4 years until someone else can make a better SW game and obraik Yes SWG is going to die, its dieing slowly and little by little every day your ignorance is blinding you and the last remaining 10k players playing are the last thread in the rope we once knew as SWG So...you choose to ingnore the fact that LA have publicly stated in many places around the internet that the licenses has NOT and will NOT be given to anyone else? Also the statements from both LA and SOE that the game is not being cancelled? and you choose to ignore the other sites that say bioware alrdy bought it?? and its not LA AND SOE it is mostly SOE that said the game wont cancel.....but of course what do you expect from the former SW license holder and yah i do admit LA did say it once they werent gonna sell but why would they say that and find people interested in buying the license?? sounds like something is going on right under $OE's nose
Viewed 40738 times Several websites are passing along spurious internet rumors regarding Star Wars Galaxies. Rest assured, these rumors are completely untrue.
LucasArts and SOE have no plans to sunset Star Wars Galaxies. The two companies will continue to work together as partners in making Star Wars Galaxies the ultimate online Star Wars experience. As has been announced several times previously, LucasArts and SOE are 100% committed and determined to continue to support Star Wars Galaxies together, especially with our renewed focus on improving the game for existing players through robust publish and content offerings in 2006. On our forums, we have shared early plans for game updates through Publish 34.
Additionally, LucasArts and SOE will be hitting the road this April and visiting several cities across the US with a series of Community Summits in an open town hall format where players can meet face-to-face with development team members, ask their questions, voice their concerns, as well as meet and hang out with fellow Star Wars Galaxies players.
Julio Torres, Producer - LucasArts
Now what part of that post BY a Lucas Arts represenative and the publisher of the game did you not understand?
Here is your logic however: "a website said Bioware already bought it so it must be true! LA wouldn't know if it's true or not who they sold it too, this rumor site knows better..."
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by tvalentine ROFL ARE YOU KIDDING ME? they all say the same thing!! and are from the same site!!! the $OE SITE 3/4s of the people can see past this on these forums, your making yourself look worse it looks like you didnt even read these links, because it sounds like all $OE its got the name LucasArts but even still IF hypotheticaly speaking that was them these links dont even mean that they didnt make a deal with another company to make ANOTHER STAR WARS GAME
Are you really that dense?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
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SoE is finished with SWG. It was sold to Atari I believe....
Though, I doubt everybody will come back.
Neptus - FFXI - Pandemonium
Neptus - WoW - Detheroc
Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
Make no mistake. The problem wasn't that SOE was shady about the way they handled the changes, although that in and of itself was a huge problem.
The changes themselves suck monkey balls glistening with urine. The NGE is without a doubt, hands down the biggest slap in the face to ANY long time subscribing costumer. Not just that. the functionality sucks, is broken, unintuitive, and will never be fun.
The completely ignore the customer base and dumb down a game that, in that incarnation, had alot of potential.
After the NGE went live, my guild mates and I logged in every night like usual, but we were shocked, hurt, and beyond disapointed. We all ended up leaving shortly there after, and I'm positive that we weren't the only ones.
As it stands now, I have in the past and will always be drawn to the Star Wars Mythos and any game (sans RTS games cause I hate those) set in the Star Wars Universe. I wish that a good company would design and develop a new Star Wars MMO, but I don't have alot of faith that that will happen.
A NWN-esque PC game that allowed us to make our own mods to play on-line, and a combat system based on the d20 Star Wars PnP game would be awesome, but somewhere down the line either Lucas turned to the darkside (spelled corporate) or the communication between LA and SOE is non-existant. Any person involved with maintaining the Cannon of the Star Wars Universe could see SOE had no business handling the Star Wars liscense.
It was mainly bad business on $OE's part. They believed that the way to increase customers was to wage war amongst their most loyal fan base. It makes no sense, and the customers you achieve are mythical at best.
It's now patently obvious (and it was back when it was released) the NGE is NOT what the playerbase wanted. If they took focus groups, they used biased samples. They should've learned their lesson with the CU. Whatever one thought of it (and I think it was a mixed bag once one looked at it objectively) the CU was NOT what the playerbase wanted. $OE received a huge blackeye with the CU the way they handled it.
And then once they found out what people wanted, make sure it works. $OE didn't do this. They released a product that wasn't even in beta-phase. The first 3 months of the NGE were alpha. And once again they are forcing people to pay while they beta test. (REmember smedley saying the reasont he CU was pushed out originally so fast was not enough people beta tested it so they needed a good sample?)
This isn't even debating the merits of the changes
I WANT MY F***ING TERAS KASI MASTER BACK AND I DONT LIKE LEVELS >=[
FU SOE FU!!
dag
If the NGE was all about money... why not come out with a classic server? Just one? I'm not familiar with how many man-hours involved with porting neccessary expansions to pre-cu.... start with a blank server to eliminate having to port items, and let's start over. I'd sub for that.
I will NOT sub for the NGE in any form it may take however... nor will I purchase a single Sony product.
Guess I'll wait till Vanguard comes out and play it untill SWG2
;lol omg... ok the goal of an mmo is to become meth. it is to force people to want it so bad they live in their parents basement.
crunch and grind does not equal a good game inspiration does.
slave labor and anti drug policies are for china where cheap labor must be exploited to do menial and automatonic work for 19 hours a day.
games require something else.
example, note that fact that swg has gone DOWNHILL
obviously more focus and less crack caused that
thanks!
To all people still paying for SWG or plan on paying for it,pictures this in your mind and think twice about it.
In a evil software office far far away....
Smedley:Hmm the NGE is the worst thing ever that happened to any game.
Julio:Lol yeah,great work team (he looks around but only he and Smedley were left from the dev team because the rest did not like that they lied to the customers)
Smedley:WTF look,they are canceling soo fast...rofl.
Julio:Heh,let's wait afew days and see what happens.
Smedley:(after 2 weeks) id realy could use some money to buy my doomsday device.
Julio:OMG,look the n00bz are comming back,rofl.
Smedley:lol ,the game is crap and they are still playing it,but they are paying ,wohoo.Now I have more money to order pron.
Julio:Look at the n00bz complaining lol,they are soo stupid we are never going to have to revert back to CU at this rate we are going to make $$$ again.
Smedley:hmm let's feed them afew lies about the future publishes,that should convience them to give us more $$$!
Julio:Great idea...hmm $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!
Although it does leave one question.
If LA has a deal in place with another company to develop another Star Wars MMO, why the secrecy? If you were developing a new Star Wars game, wouldn't you want it publicly announced simply from the standpoint of raising capital for the venture?
Not really, if u let the cat out of the bag to soon, i think everyone involved with SWG and maybe a new MMO would lose more financialy. I agree with most that the rumors of a new company developing a new SW MMO is likely happening.
I am also in the mindset that SWG will hit the PS3 when it launches, i think they had the plans to go with that, but the PS3 launch date was pushed back, so they had to scrap thier release date to port the game.
The big thing about all this, that points in the direction most seem to think SWG is heading in, is the fact that, the devs won't setup a classic server. If they were so interested about making more money and bringing in a huge amount of subs, surely they would setup a few servers that cater to the vets of the game.
Everyone that is playing SWG right now, is only in my opinion paying for a huge beta test for the ported version when it goes live. If LA/Bioware, right now would come out and give info about a new SW MMO, they would surely hurt their relationship with SOE, and that would cause LA to possibly lose more money from a license stantpoint.
Something big is going on, and until, something is put out and made a fact, everyone who is still playing and all who doesn't need to sit back and wait.
Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
In a small way your are right that some times certain things that players want aren't suitable to impliment or not possible or just a bad thing for a game. Using your same logic however, SOE is indeed a business. No business should flat out lie to its customers. What would you do if everytime you went to wal-mart to buy a game like Fear you got a DVD of Sound of Music. or you wanted to buy some Budweiser beer and when you get home its Schlitz in the can. Point is Yes they are a business and they are responsible to the ones who pay the money for the game they own. They pushed out the cu and took a huge black eye for it. What did they learn. Nothing. They continued to lie and forge ahead with nge, even though the cu was never really accepted and caused a substantial drop in subs. Your telling me that SOE is a business and can't be bothered to maintain a product that was already successful is obsurd. No they wont please all the people all the time but they can please most of the people most of the time. What they did is piss off damn near everyone permanently. Nuff Said.
A business that wants to grow and flourish without exploiting their customer base, always has to listen to their customers. Without happy returning customers there is no business.
SOE are exploiting the trademark and status of Star Wars to continue this game. Always have been IMO.
I totally agree. Even from release they botched up the timeline and acronyms. CDEF should have ben CEDF, which doesn't even come into play until the Chiss become apart of the story, and that sure isn't during the time period SWG started in.
By the time the NGE rolled around SWG's timeline was basically a frankenstien's monster of bits and pieces from post and pre episode 4.
I support the game and the Dev team. I think they are really trying hard to make the game fun. I think that in time SWG will be the success it has always been capable of.
Listening to the same old negative talking points has gotten so old. I certainly am not going to quit simply because someone else did.
i'd like to see some results.
SWG will never be a success anymore, it's basically a grindfest with nothing really special about it. Also with all the negative press SOE are getting over SWG, nobody in the right mind would go near it.
It will be a success though I reckon, when bioware create their star wars mmo and then everyone will be happy!
Despite what you might believe in that Fairy-Land World of yours, SOE is a business. Therefore, you can't expect them to listen to and implement every single suggestion a player makes. God forbid a company should try to promote their games in order to make more money. Last time I checked, any business needs money. If SOE just sat around brainstorming all day for a game that satisfied every single gamer, it would likely never get created, and if it did, it would probably suck. No one's forcing you to play their games, and I doubt they care that you are boycotting them.
Oh and by the way, SOE didn't develop Everquest. Verant did, and was bought out by SOE.
They pushed out the cu and took a huge black eye for it. What did they learn. Nothing. They continued to lie and forge ahead with nge, even though the cu was never really accepted and caused a substantial drop in subs.
I came back to the game in August before NGE hit and it was pretty lively, a lot more lively than it was back before cu hit. I personally didn't like the cu but it seemed to bring in quite a few subs.
I came back to the game in August before NGE hit and it was pretty lively, a lot more lively than it was back before cu hit. I personally didn't like the cu but it seemed to bring in quite a few subs.
If you're enjoying the NGE, then don't quit. I hope you enjoy playing with the 20 other people on your server. That's SO much better than the pre-CU days when there would thousands online simultaneously with a robust economy and PVP and PVE hunting groups. So what if the NGE reduced the human player population by 95%? At least the game mechanics are more iconic and star warsy. Yay!!!11111!!11
/sarcasmOff
But srsly, if you're happy with NGE, than go ahead and enjoy it. But don't try to squash our attempts to seek reform in SWG. I think it's outrageously naive to believe that if things continue the way they are, that "SWG will be the success it has always been capable of." O Rly? LOL
My OP is more directed towards people currently playing NGE and disliking (1) the game mechanics (2) the bugs (3) the low player population. My message to them is that if they want to accelerate reform at SWG, they need to quit and stop financially supporting the currently dysfunctional management of the game. Continuing to subscribe will ONLY result in the prolonging of incompetent management and NOT an improvement in the game experience.
I recently quit Star Wars Galaxies about a month or so ago. After playing since release, clicking that cancel button was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Corpse runs, no vehicles, grinding my char to Master Rifle (you guys know how hard that grind was) without ever using a SINGLE buff, the COOL feeling I got everytime I saw one of those rare Jedi, my first scythe, NS group hunting, profession grind...etc
Notice anything? All my great memories are pre-cu. I have this to say about the NGE...It's fantastic for the average or casual gamer. I'm perfectly willing to admit that. The problem? WE AREN'T THEM. I miss having to wait an hour getting buffed etc. before I could actually do anything. Steep learning curve noob? Deal with it. The rest of us did.
I feel like there is no point to the game. Ok, so you have a sword with 300-500 dmg. Fantastic. I'm 20 levels higher than you, watch me kill you with my spoon.
And that weapon/armor you spent a month getting...yeah...be sure to donate it instead of just throwing it out. It's now worthless.
You don't like the game? That's funny...last time I checked you were still paying. Why would you pay if you hated the game? I guess that means you like it...and if your complaint about that wasn't true, why should the rest of your complaints be taken seriously?
QUIT SWG!!!!
Now what part of that post BY a Lucas Arts represenative and the publisher of the game did you not understand?
Here is your logic however:
"a website said Bioware already bought it so it must be true! LA wouldn't know if it's true or not who they sold it too, this rumor site knows better..."
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Are you really that dense?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
grr, who revived an old thread? UGH.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World