If I had a choice of being an "entitled" gamer where my goal is to get things how I want it, or constantly knob jobbing in favor of an alternative or practice of 0 benefit to myself and setup... I' m going with entitled gamer. At least I have some purpose to my stance.
"Hurr durr it's free" "hurr durr duh developer like it" and "hurr durr, it no take no time" ain't really the most solid causes to be chasing other peoples stances down.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*gonna go ahead and leave these shoes out...
I think “buying games I like and aren’t available anywhere else, and at a heavily discounted price to boot right now” is a completely logical stance tbh. These are quite substantial benefits.
A more logical stance to me then boycotting and repeatedly chastising a digital store because of different/less store options then a certain other store or the dislike of the company behind it.
Since when isn’t gaming about the actual games anymore? The “standards” applied here have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the actual games, or being an entitled player.
As a side comment: Buying these games and using the Epic store also doesn’t mean someone is hating Steam or loving Epic. There is no relation. Not buying and using it however does seem to have that relation as proven by quite a few of these comments.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
First things first, the shoes look great on you.
Second, how you want to play your games in your setup is your business. This whole Epic/Steam thing on these forums, has been about people saying "I prefer my setup with Steam and don't like what EPIC is doing in the market" and individuals chastising them for bucking, while claiming it doesn't matter. If it really didn't matter there would be games that used to be available on one platform now available on two. Both platforms would be pushing to improve the market and all players/consumers benefit from that.
Lastly, in order to "boycott" something you'd have to have been using in the first place. Saying "no thanks, I'm good" isn't that.
No, that isn't what folks have been saying on these forums, stop lying. They've gone far beyond that to trump shit up and doomcall about the Epic Game Store about a variety of things, including fearmongering about Chinese government data harvesting. Don't misrepresent your side to make the entire bunch out like they're all just making a reasonable personal assessment. That's not what's happening, and you're being disingenuous to suggest it.
I've personally not said ANY of that. I've had the exact stance I referenced as have most others. Initially (I don't care how it has devolved since) that was the conversation. Yet the same troupe of individuals saying "you're dumb it's free" then making it about "your side" show up regardless of the tone of the conversation.
No, they don't. As a matter of fact, most of the time the shit-slinging over the Epic Store is started by the same folks you seem to imply have simply said "I just prefer Steam."
Quit trying to rewrite reality. Personally, I comment to call out people when they use gross exaggeration or make shit up to try and support the idea that the Epic Store should be avoided out of well-earned spite towards Epic. @lahnmir simply makes sarcastic remarks to highlight the absurdity of the hate train conductors here on the forums. And you are, quite frankly, here gaslighting their posts right now.
Ack, you just used the term gaslighting, a more modern form of Godwin's law IMO.
Your passionate defense of the Epic store is as equally odd as those who attack it.
But hey, people attack Walmart for selling stuff too cheaply, so not surprising.
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Sorry to ask but what is the thing with Chinese government and Epic? I have an Epic Account since 2017 for Fortnite (played around 3 hours,not a game for me) and got two attempt of login from Russia in two years. So no Chinese involved xD Just asking because I bought my first games on Epic yesterday (I'm curious and I wanted to see the horrible new launcher all by myself).
So...The launcher is very light but It work...and with Linux too if you use Lutrix. But sincerely...the store is a ghost of a store and really need improvement. And Epic should think to Linux users too...
For now,I'm happy with my new games but I'm not convinced to use the Epic Store more often.
Tencent is a Chinese financial giant that owns a lot of stuff, including about 40% of Epic Games stock.
If I had a choice of being an "entitled" gamer where my goal is to get things how I want it, or constantly knob jobbing in favor of an alternative or practice of 0 benefit to myself and setup... I' m going with entitled gamer. At least I have some purpose to my stance.
"Hurr durr it's free" "hurr durr duh developer like it" and "hurr durr, it no take no time" ain't really the most solid causes to be chasing other peoples stances down.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*gonna go ahead and leave these shoes out...
I think “buying games I like and aren’t available anywhere else, and at a heavily discounted price to boot right now” is a completely logical stance tbh. These are quite substantial benefits.
A more logical stance to me then boycotting and repeatedly chastising a digital store because of different/less store options then a certain other store or the dislike of the company behind it.
Since when isn’t gaming about the actual games anymore? The “standards” applied here have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the actual games, or being an entitled player.
As a side comment: Buying these games and using the Epic store also doesn’t mean someone is hating Steam or loving Epic. There is no relation. Not buying and using it however does seem to have that relation as proven by quite a few of these comments.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
First things first, the shoes look great on you.
Second, how you want to play your games in your setup is your business. This whole Epic/Steam thing on these forums, has been about people saying "I prefer my setup with Steam and don't like what EPIC is doing in the market" and individuals chastising them for bucking, while claiming it doesn't matter. If it really didn't matter there would be games that used to be available on one platform now available on two. Both platforms would be pushing to improve the market and all players/consumers benefit from that.
Lastly, in order to "boycott" something you'd have to have been using in the first place. Saying "no thanks, I'm good" isn't that.
No, that isn't what folks have been saying on these forums, stop lying. They've gone far beyond that to trump shit up and doomcall about the Epic Game Store about a variety of things, including fearmongering about Chinese government data harvesting. Don't misrepresent your side to make the entire bunch out like they're all just making a reasonable personal assessment. That's not what's happening, and you're being disingenuous to suggest it.
I've personally not said ANY of that. I've had the exact stance I referenced as have most others. Initially (I don't care how it has devolved since) that was the conversation. Yet the same troupe of individuals saying "you're dumb it's free" then making it about "your side" show up regardless of the tone of the conversation.
No, they don't. As a matter of fact, most of the time the shit-slinging over the Epic Store is started by the same folks you seem to imply have simply said "I just prefer Steam."
Quit trying to rewrite reality. Personally, I comment to call out people when they use gross exaggeration or make shit up to try and support the idea that the Epic Store should be avoided out of well-earned spite towards Epic. @lahnmir simply makes sarcastic remarks to highlight the absurdity of the hate train conductors here on the forums. And you are, quite frankly, here gaslighting their posts right now.
Ack, you just used the term gaslighting, a more modern form of Godwin's law IMO.
Your passionate defense of the Epic store is as equally odd as those who attack it.
But hey, people attack Walmart for selling stuff too cheaply, so not surprising.
My passionate defense is to tell folks to stop making shit up to try and demonize them simply because they have temporary exclusives that cost us gamers nothing. That's a passionate defense of honesty and rationale, nothing more.
And you can try and diminish my claim of the gaslighting all you like, what you can't tell me (with any truthfulness) is that it is inaccurate.
It's also true that most folks who feel like I do don't start these shit-slinging contests in every fucking thread that Epic gets mentioned in. That's maybe because we're too busy enjoying all the games we purchased on all the free storefronts we aren't bitching about here.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
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I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
All those discounts and I still wont install or buy from them this video back in April convinced me enough that I will never trust these people at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2Q5w_yRSE
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
Ended up buying World War Z during the sale, never bought anything on the Epic store prior to that. The game itself was a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be, it felt like Left 4 Dead mixed with Killing Floor progression. The launcher itself is alright, it launches games that's about it.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
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I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
Sure, they would implement it. Which feature do you want to get delayed - cloud saves, optimized patch distribution, a decent search with categories and tags, mod support, social features or user reviews? Why don't you go give Blizzard crap that they don't have a shopping cart, eh? I mean it is a must-have feature and they do not really seem to have anything else in desperate need of implementation for their storefront and also you don't seem to hate them irrationally and are likely to use their store. Leave us plebs to suffer without a cart while we get actually useful features. Like a fraud-prevention feature that might misfire during a sale but would actually save someone's ass someday.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
Its not comparable to features that take a decade to evolve and implement, its just a shopping cart, its such a basic feature that its absence is so embarassing an oversight that it implies incompetence by default and the longer they take to sort it out, the worse they look.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
Sure, they would implement it. Which feature do you want to get delayed - cloud saves, optimized patch distribution, a decent search with categories and tags, mod support, social features or user reviews? Why don't you go give Blizzard crap that they don't have a shopping cart, eh? I mean it is a must-have feature and they do not really seem to have anything else in desperate need of implementation for their storefront and also you don't seem to hate them irrationally and are likely to use their store. Leave us plebs to suffer without a cart while we get actually useful features. Like a fraud-prevention feature that might misfire during a sale but would actually save someone's ass someday.
FRAUD PROTECTION LO FUCKIN L. You do realize there is no such thing happening here right. It's a simple statement
There is no fraud protection, it is not checking transactions, it is not looking in your best interest, it is only checking the amount of times you order against a specific set time that would seem to be too much.
I can't believe the amount of brainwash, this is 2019 not 1996, there is nothing good about their storefront, it is amateur pile of shit and you will all pay for it for using it.
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I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Nah, the first think you implement is a product catalog, a distribution platform, a secure checkout and a few payment methods. Currently they seem to be working on improvements for all of those. Then when you have those in place solid you look at what is the most requested feature and useful and you implement it i.e. Cloud Saves, user reviews, wishlists, etc. Then after you have those down you get to the minor quality of life improvements like a shopping cart. Also as you said it is rather easy to implement so then can actually cram it anywhere in the schedule of there is somebody without any essential work. But what you don't do is implement minor qol improvements when you have work on your core architecture and major features to do.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
Sure, they would implement it. Which feature do you want to get delayed - cloud saves, optimized patch distribution, a decent search with categories and tags, mod support, social features or user reviews? Why don't you go give Blizzard crap that they don't have a shopping cart, eh? I mean it is a must-have feature and they do not really seem to have anything else in desperate need of implementation for their storefront and also you don't seem to hate them irrationally and are likely to use their store. Leave us plebs to suffer without a cart while we get actually useful features. Like a fraud-prevention feature that might misfire during a sale but would actually save someone's ass someday.
FRAUD PROTECTION LO FUCKIN L. You do realize there is no such thing happening here right. It's a simple statement
There is no fraud protection, it is not checking transactions, it is not looking in your best interest, it is only checking the amount of times you order against a specific set time that would seem to be too much.
I can't believe the amount of brainwash, this is 2019 not 1996, there is nothing good about their storefront, it is amateur pile of shit and you will all pay for it for using it.
Yeah, sure, if you want to hack it you can implement fraud protection this way but in the real world there are a bunch of factors you look at before flagging an account for fraud and you make it so different aspects of these factors can be configured. Also for this particular basic check it would be more prudent to select the number of transactions for the time period you want then check them against the time parameter instead of keeping a number of orders parameter and a time parameter that needs to be reset every once in a while.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Oh I definitely think it is. But their not prioritizing it is not the same as their skimping or not adding it.
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Nah, the first think you implement is a product catalog, a distribution platform, a secure checkout and a few payment methods. Currently they seem to be working on improvements for all of those. Then when you have those in place solid you look at what is the most requested feature and useful and you implement it i.e. Cloud Saves, user reviews, wishlists, etc. Then after you have those down you get to the minor quality of life improvements like a shopping cart. Also as you said it is rather easy to implement so then can actually cram it anywhere in the schedule of there is somebody without any essential work. But what you don't do is implement minor qol improvements when you have work on your core architecture and major features to do.
100% disagree with your assessment of what you think is important in an online store. You are ass backwards, user experience (UX) is the most important thing in any web project. Ruin the experience and you ruin your bottom line. If any other company tried to do what Epic is doing and launched exactly as they did, they wouldn't be around. Epic is getting away with it cause it is Epic. Let's think logical here instead of with our Epic boner.
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I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
Its not comparable to features that take a decade to evolve and implement, its just a shopping cart, its such a basic feature that its absence is so embarassing an oversight that it implies incompetence by default and the longer they take to sort it out, the worse they look.
Because the shopping cart is the only feature you've been bashing Epic about, right? /Rollseyes
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Oh I definitely think it is. But their not prioritizing it is not the same as their skimping or not adding it.
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
Well at least you agree it should have been, that I can accept. The others saying it shouldn't be, that's where I draw the line.
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What a HOT topic! I hear they pulled Borderlands 3 from the store? Is that just for this sale or did Epic lose exclusivity?
Gut Out!
Just temporary afaik, and more a case of protecting the value of the game, one of the cases in point is The Division 2, although it was an EGS exclusive, it actually drastically increased the number of purchases of the game via the Uplay store instead of EGS. So it would not surprise me at all if the reason they withdrew it, and they were not the only ones who did this, was because while it might gain them a few more sales in the short term, long term sales including other platforms might well suffer because of it. EGS did a really bad job of communicating with publishers etc. this could have all been avoided if they had managed things properly, i know i've mentioned about their incompetence already, but thats really what this is all about.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Nah, the first think you implement is a product catalog, a distribution platform, a secure checkout and a few payment methods. Currently they seem to be working on improvements for all of those. Then when you have those in place solid you look at what is the most requested feature and useful and you implement it i.e. Cloud Saves, user reviews, wishlists, etc. Then after you have those down you get to the minor quality of life improvements like a shopping cart. Also as you said it is rather easy to implement so then can actually cram it anywhere in the schedule of there is somebody without any essential work. But what you don't do is implement minor qol improvements when you have work on your core architecture and major features to do.
100% disagree with your assessment of what you think is important in an online store. You are ass backwards, user experience (UX) is the most important thing in any web project. Ruin the experience and you ruin your bottom line. If any other company tried to do what Epic is doing and launched exactly as they did, they wouldn't be around. Epic is getting away with it cause it is Epic. Let's think logical here instead of with our Epic boner.
Nah, this is actually the order you should implement things in but you should not launch until you have your fundamentals in place. But with Epic it seems that the transition from a launcher to a store was a sudden decision which is why they did that crap. But when you do one stupid thing it doesn't mean you follow it up with another.
The thing that really weirds me out is why didn't they just copy their Unreal Store Marketplace as a template for their game store.
I have one simple statement that sums up Epic store. No cart system. If they can't be arsed to build a simple cart system for their own store then what the hell else are they skimping on? Zero confidence, I forsee some sort of issue to come out of this. Something major like a data breach that will fuck over all the customers. I won't touch it with a 10ft pole.
They don't have it there because it is virtually useless and therefore - low priority.
Virtually useless, is that a joke? when every other online store out there has one, and there are issues with EGS triggering anti fraud measures because of it, something that is so simple and cheap to implement that nobody thinks twice about having it in their online stores in the first place, yeah, sure it is. If Epic are literally giving away millions in discounts then all i can say that it beggars belief that they would skimp on something so basic that they are looking like incompetent fools, which based on their lack of communication with the developers/publishers of the games in question, of which so many were withdrawn during the 'sale' seems pretty much par for the course when it comes to Epic, they seriously need to hire someone who knows what they are doing to fix their store, because right now, their reputation is shot.
They aren't skimping, they just haven't added it. It's scheduled to be added, just like every other feature people have been bitching about.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
You don't think that should be the first thing that should be developed when... iunno you open a digital store? An idiot selling their aesthetic dog leash has a fuckin cart system for their one item. It shows how amateur the whole thing is, is the EPIC store made by interns? I make cart systems, they take literally 4hrs to make depending on how crazy indepth they are, but something simple like add/remove keep a cart session, that's easy web programming 101. That is what scares me, if a cart system isn't #1, what else isn't #1?!?
Oh I definitely think it is. But their not prioritizing it is not the same as their skimping or not adding it.
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
Well at least you agree it should have been, that I can accept. The others saying it shouldn't be, that's where I draw the line.
I take it you are referring to me. I'm not saying that a shopping cart shouldn't be implemented. I am saying that it is of low priority because there are more important things to implement first.
What a HOT topic! I hear they pulled Borderlands 3 from the store? Is that just for this sale or did Epic lose exclusivity?
Gut Out!
Just temporary afaik, and more a case of protecting the value of the game, one of the cases in point is The Division 2, although it was an EGS exclusive, it actually drastically increased the number of purchases of the game via the Uplay store instead of EGS. So it would not surprise me at all if the reason they withdrew it, and they were not the only ones who did this, was because while it might gain them a few more sales in the short term, long term sales including other platforms might well suffer because of it. EGS did a really bad job of communicating with publishers etc. this could have all been avoided if they had managed things properly, i know i've mentioned about their incompetence already, but thats really what this is all about.
It sounds like they have the Engine business and BR business sewed up, but could really use some guidance on the Store side of the business....ha
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Your passionate defense of the Epic store is as equally odd as those who attack it.
But hey, people attack Walmart for selling stuff too cheaply, so not surprising.
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And you can try and diminish my claim of the gaslighting all you like, what you can't tell me (with any truthfulness) is that it is inaccurate.
It's also true that most folks who feel like I do don't start these shit-slinging contests in every fucking thread that Epic gets mentioned in. That's maybe because we're too busy enjoying all the games we purchased on all the free storefronts we aren't bitching about here.
In B4 "HOW DARE THEY RELEASE A STORE WITHOUT A DECADE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG FIXES ALREADY COMPLETED?!?!?!?!!"
if($customer >= 5 orders && time() <= $timeout) WARNING.
There is no fraud protection, it is not checking transactions, it is not looking in your best interest, it is only checking the amount of times you order against a specific set time that would seem to be too much.
I can't believe the amount of brainwash, this is 2019 not 1996, there is nothing good about their storefront, it is amateur pile of shit and you will all pay for it for using it.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
They have always planned on adding it. Why it wasn't something they planned to add as one of the first items, I don't know. I feel it's a small item that should've been one of the first.
I'm just not using that to jump on the hate train and earn my conductor's hat.
EGS did a really bad job of communicating with publishers etc. this could have all been avoided if they had managed things properly, i know i've mentioned about their incompetence already, but thats really what this is all about.
The thing that really weirds me out is why didn't they just copy their Unreal Store Marketplace as a template for their game store.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?