It makes me chuckle when the sages of financial and game development wisdom post on here trying to convince everybody else they know what's best for them to do with their own money. Star Citizen/CIG does not send strong arm collectors to homes demanding their money. So, vote with your wallets and demonstrate your superior wisdom. After that, leave others personal choices and your condemnation of them to yourselves.
I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
All I want from Roberts is what I wanted all those years ago. Squadron 42. A single player (though it was promised as multiplayer when I pledged) cinematic experience like Wing Commander.
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I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
It seems to me that you aren't trying very hard to understand anything.
I have attempted to play this many times over the years. All it does is make me want to play Elite in VR. I only wish Elites multi-player was any good. For me SC has always been a buggy mess. I have loaded in and fallen through the game world countless times over the years. I get it, its alpha but this isn't a normal alpha....stuff like getting stuck on a ladder or unable to drink or falling through the map have all been issues for years....that's just a short list. I can't play it for more than a few hours every year or I hate myself nothing feels good in that game and it continues to run like crap.
Before any nah sayers say it's my system it's not.
Unless many have your same negative experience the problem probably is mostly on your end.
I have attempted to play this many times over the years. All it does is make me want to play Elite in VR. I only wish Elites multi-player was any good. For me SC has always been a buggy mess. I have loaded in and fallen through the game world countless times over the years. I get it, its alpha but this isn't a normal alpha....stuff like getting stuck on a ladder or unable to drink or falling through the map have all been issues for years....that's just a short list. I can't play it for more than a few hours every year or I hate myself nothing feels good in that game and it continues to run like crap.
Before any nah sayers say it's my system it's not.
Unless many have your same negative experience the problem probably is mostly on your end.
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I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
It seems to me that you aren't trying very hard to understand anything.
I guess you just know everything. this place is not for talking about games, just shit talking. I have never seen anyone one here say anything good about a game in forever. Yall are a sad bunch.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
It seems to me that you aren't trying very hard to understand anything.
I guess you just know everything. this place is not for talking about games, just shit talking. I have never seen anyone one here say anything good about a game in forever. Yall are a sad bunch.
You have to read more threads than just the Star Citizen related ones.
What's even sadder is people who see a need to champion their favorite games despite not being able to acknowledge the glaring deficits staring them in the face.
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I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
It seems to me that you aren't trying very hard to understand anything.
I guess you just know everything. this place is not for talking about games, just shit talking. I have never seen anyone one here say anything good about a game in forever. Yall are a sad bunch.
You have to read more threads than just the Star Citizen related ones.
What's even sadder is people who see a need to champion their favorite games despite not being able to acknowledge the glaring deficits staring them in the face.
None so blind as those who will not see.
Im not a champion of this game, you all talk shit about everything that comes out. Ive been here for over 10 years, dont act like i dont know how yall talk..even you.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
You can't blame people for being skeptical. We're 10 years and well over half a billion dollars in.
I get that they have something for people to play and a lot of people like what they can get their hands on right now. Part of early access is the criticism for an unfinished game. Sometimes it unwarranted and sometimes not. But it's part of EA, so deal with the heat.
I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
All I want from Roberts is what I wanted all those years ago. Squadron 42. A single player (though it was promised as multiplayer when I pledged) cinematic experience like Wing Commander.
Ah that boat sailed a long, long time ago and you know it, I mean that all I wanted too was SQ42. I backed before the PU thing exploded to high heaven with feature creep and yes it sucks that we who started the ball rolling got kind of left in the dust.
I dunno but I have gotten over it, it is what it is, I don't see the point in being super salty and hateful about it, facts is a big, big majority don't give rats arse about sq42 and only care about the PU and unfortunately for you and I they voted way stronger in the wallet department than we did.
I get the peeps that are salty cause it's taking for ever (I mean some of us older folks like myself an kyle might die of old age before it releases lol ) and such it annoys me too lots of time...... that said like kyleran said "some people are blind" and wont admit it however that is true on both ends of the spectrum.
Stawhat also has a point there been lots of pissing and moaning about games sucking, being just the same rehashed crap since wow but when companies try something new to make something that could possibly be grand those same peeps still piss and moan about how tis a scam and people are stupid to support or even dare try and be hopeful or positive about it.
I recall early on the arguments that this was a 150% scam for example like D.S. claiming it was not possible to make cause it wasn't technically possible based on the fact his games sucked hard and failed. Sad thing is some people are still stuck in this mindset argument. lol
I posit however that someone has to take the steps to throw shitloads of cash to make the impossible...possible cause that how thing work in the real world shit remains sci fi and not possible until someone figures out how to do it.
Frankly sometimes the peeps in this site sound like flat earthers that still think the world being round is a dastardly govmint scam and try and post youtube home experiment to prove it or that the moon landing wasn't real and that we have never actually to this day sent anyone to the moon....
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
I gave them so much shit for years. Time to say- Sorry for calling this scam citizen :-)
Wtf ? You too ? LOL ..
I mean I don't care that they have an alpha of a "game". The point stands : They are taking a shit load of cash from whales and in return they are...milking them as much as they can, and releasing content as slow as they can. That's the definition of scam.
If you think that for more than half a BILLION $, the current content is enough, than .... you didn't paid attention. And guess what? The money will keep coming.
Until ( if ) 1.0 will release, they can easily make 1 billion from this scam. I wonder if you will say the same ..
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I gave them so much shit for years. Time to say- Sorry for calling this scam citizen :-)
Wtf ? You too ? LOL ..
I mean I don't care that they have an alpha of a "game". The point stands : They are taking a shit load of cash from whales and in return they are...milking them as much as they can, and releasing content as slow as they can. That's the definition of scam.
If you think that for more than half a BILLION $, the current content is enough, than .... you didn't paid attention. And guess what? The money will keep coming.
Until ( if ) 1.0 will release, they can easily make 1 billion from this scam. I wonder if you will say the same ..
I can tell you dont follow the game. Do you know whats coming in 3.23? No you dont.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
This is a place for forum PVP, which some find very fun.
There's plenty of Star Citizen forums, Discords and other echo chambers for fans to enjoy.
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While I am happy for backers finally getting their long-awaited game, I think raising over $600 million for one MMO is insane. They could've created three AAA MMOs by now with that amount of money.
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
This is a place for forum PVP, which some find very fun, care bears need not apply.
There's plenty of Star Citizen forums, Discords and other echo chambers for fans to enjoy.
No this is a place for game discussions, that some of you like to act like asshats and forum pvp and should have gotten vacations long ago but don't doesn't mean these are pvp forums only.
The place has gotten redundant with only the same crowd posting and moderation has gotten lax for a very good reason. These forum used to be hopping but are not anymore and it's not cause forums are no longer popular but rather a reflection on those that live in here and constantly forum pvp.
Frankly some of you are nothing but memes at this point looking for validation.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
Can I just ask everyone to stay calm?
Look, by all means come on and tell us how it is going in SC, I for one love to hear about in game experiences and SC has those. Personally if you just want to come on and talk about how 3.142 or whatever then by all means but I would have no interest.
But likewise posters are quite right to question the length of development, how much longer until we see a launch and what will we actually get? So yes those questions are going to be asked, if you just want to have "fun" talking about SC isn't that what the official forums are for? And even there one would hope posters are allowed to some dissent?
Meanwhile, publishers does deliver the same copy-paste of games since two decades, for 60$ + DLC's + Cosmetics while SC is 45$, everything available in game with Credits. I call publishers pyramid crap. I spend less and less of their shallow games to the point I don't buy new titles before they are at heavy discounted price. Words have a meaning. CIG do deliver more than what we paid for during kickstarter, they have no competitor (Starfield is not a space game and a very poor attempt from bethesda....), Eve, NMS are complementary options for space game lovers.
Despite haters prophecy of doom, both SDQ42 and SC are going to be delivered, with features no others can approach in one single package at at such low price (no subscription either).
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
Can I just ask everyone to stay calm?
Look, by all means come on and tell us how it is going in SC, I for one love to hear about in game experiences and SC has those. Personally if you just want to come on and talk about how 3.142 or whatever then by all means but I would have no interest.
But likewise posters are quite right to question the length of development, how much longer until we see a launch and what will we actually get? So yes those questions are going to be asked, if you just want to have "fun" talking about SC isn't that what the official forums are for? And even there one would hope posters are allowed to some dissent?
What you are saying is quite valid, there's nothing wrong with dissenting or having a divergent opinion and talking about things you do not like about a game and how it is being handled as well as the things you do like or hope it will achieve.
That said as has been plainly said some come here to and I quote, "This is a place for forum PVP, which some find very fun, care bears need not apply" which has driven lots of people away and frankly given this website a bad name.
This is a far cry from what you are saying and frankly is not defensible.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
You know what is sad, you people made it where star citizen fans cant come on here and try and have fun talking about our game. You are so mean and I dont know why. I thought this was suppose to be place to talk about games and have fun, but I guess not.
Hit the ignore button if someone bothers you. If you only want a safe space then join the other True Believers on the official forums. If you want a place with varying opinions that range from Roberts is a crook to Roberts is the savior, this is the place.
What I have noticed is that most of the “critics” will complain about the game or company while most “Believers” will complain about the critics. There are of course exceptions but that seems to be the case the majority of the time.
I’m an OG Backer. Likely was on the Roberts bandwagon before you even heard of StarCitizen. I go back to the original Wing Commander which I even pre-ordered and it came with a hat and signed box. I spent $200 to get a 1 MB (not GB)memory expansion so I could see the characters hands move the flight stick. I’d show off the “orchestral score” to my girlfriend (now wife).
I pledged for a game like that was based on Roberts promises. Squadron 42. A Wing Commander game made for today. And this time it was supposed to be small multiplayer too! So I went and bought a few packages for myself and some friends (since then Roberts has canceled the multiplayer part…)
That was over 11 years ago. To this date I have not played a single second of that game. Do I still want it? Hell yeah. Every time I hear Bishop’s speech I get chills. But after all this time with just the occasional video drop, I’m going to voice my justified displeasure. And if that offends you, simply hit ignore on me and move along.
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Meanwhile, publishers does deliver the same copy-paste of games since two decades, for 60$ + DLC's + Cosmetics while SC is 45$, everything available in game with Credits. I call publishers pyramid crap. I spend less and less of their shallow games to the point I don't buy new titles before they are at heavy discounted price. Words have a meaning. CIG do deliver more than what we paid for during kickstarter, they have no competitor (Starfield is not a space game and a very poor attempt from bethesda....), Eve, NMS are complementary options for space game lovers.
Despite haters prophecy of doom, both SDQ42 and SC are going to be delivered, with features no others can approach in one single package at at such low price (no subscription either).
Meanwhile. the games you are talking about are made by the company's own money.
SC is having $600 + millions from "donations", aka whales and after ..10 years + (?) and as I said, $600+ millions, the game is nowhere near ready or close to release.
On top of that, the $45 you are talking about is a lie LOL. I mean, beside no DLC yet, for obvious reasons (doh, because there is no game released here) , SC also have a "cosmetic" shop. I mean are you serious?! They sold the paper ships for like forever and for a ton of money. Hello?! And the game is not even released ........
How blind SC fans can become?! /facepalm
"I spend less and less of their shallow games to the point I don't buy new titles before they are at heavy discounted price." - at least you pay for a released game, IF you chose so. If not, is fine, the game is STILL released, no matter if you contribute to it or not. SC on the other hand..well..do I need to explain to you the basics here?
...exactly!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
SC isn’t a scam - it’s just a very very -very- badly led project. Roberts should’ve never been the CEO, his role should’ve been limited to «creative director». I thinkt that is starting to dawn on them now as well - as he is now joined by Benoit Beausejour as the new CTO
I find it kind of weird how negative all of you are. You all want some new mmo that does something more and here you have one trying that. But all you do is talk shit. I just dont get it.
The issue is, that if you believe info released by Star Citizen they've been making good development progress for the last 11 years.
As a result of that good progress, RSI has been maybe about 2 years away from releasing 1.0 version of their game for more than 11 years.
At this point I don't even care whether they manage 1.0 version of Star Citizen or Squadron 42. But they're constantly reporting good progress, yet suffer from total inability to translate that into released games.
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Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
What's even sadder is people who see a need to champion their favorite games despite not being able to acknowledge the glaring deficits staring them in the face.
None so blind as those who will not see.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
I mean I don't care that they have an alpha of a "game". The point stands : They are taking a shit load of cash from whales and in return they are...milking them as much as they can, and releasing content as slow as they can. That's the definition of scam.
If you think that for more than half a BILLION $, the current content is enough, than .... you didn't paid attention. And guess what? The money will keep coming.
Until ( if ) 1.0 will release, they can easily make 1 billion from this scam. I wonder if you will say the same ..
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
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Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
There's plenty of Star Citizen forums, Discords and other echo chambers for fans to enjoy.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Look, by all means come on and tell us how it is going in SC, I for one love to hear about in game experiences and SC has those. Personally if you just want to come on and talk about how 3.142 or whatever then by all means but I would have no interest.
But likewise posters are quite right to question the length of development, how much longer until we see a launch and what will we actually get? So yes those questions are going to be asked, if you just want to have "fun" talking about SC isn't that what the official forums are for? And even there one would hope posters are allowed to some dissent?
Meanwhile, publishers does deliver the same copy-paste of games since two decades, for 60$ + DLC's + Cosmetics while SC is 45$, everything available in game with Credits. I call publishers pyramid crap. I spend less and less of their shallow games to the point I don't buy new titles before they are at heavy discounted price. Words have a meaning. CIG do deliver more than what we paid for during kickstarter, they have no competitor (Starfield is not a space game and a very poor attempt from bethesda....), Eve, NMS are complementary options for space game lovers.
Despite haters prophecy of doom, both SDQ42 and SC are going to be delivered, with features no others can approach in one single package at at such low price (no subscription either).
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
What I have noticed is that most of the “critics” will complain about the game or company while most “Believers” will complain about the critics. There are of course exceptions but that seems to be the case the majority of the time.
I pledged for a game like that was based on Roberts promises. Squadron 42. A Wing Commander game made for today. And this time it was supposed to be small multiplayer too! So I went and bought a few packages for myself and some friends (since then Roberts has canceled the multiplayer part…)
That was over 11 years ago. To this date I have not played a single second of that game. Do I still want it? Hell yeah. Every time I hear Bishop’s speech I get chills. But after all this time with just the occasional video drop, I’m going to voice my justified displeasure. And if that offends you, simply hit ignore on me and move along.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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SC is having $600 + millions from "donations", aka whales and after ..10 years + (?) and as I said, $600+ millions, the game is nowhere near ready or close to release.
On top of that, the $45 you are talking about is a lie LOL. I mean, beside no DLC yet, for obvious reasons (doh, because there is no game released here) , SC also have a "cosmetic" shop. I mean are you serious?! They sold the paper ships for like forever and for a ton of money. Hello?! And the game is not even released ........
How blind SC fans can become?! /facepalm
"I spend less and less of their shallow games to the point I don't buy new titles before they are at heavy discounted price." - at least you pay for a released game, IF you chose so. If not, is fine, the game is STILL released, no matter if you contribute to it or not. SC on the other hand..well..do I need to explain to you the basics here?
...exactly!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
The issue is, that if you believe info released by Star Citizen they've been making good development progress for the last 11 years.
As a result of that good progress, RSI has been maybe about 2 years away from releasing 1.0 version of their game for more than 11 years.
At this point I don't even care whether they manage 1.0 version of Star Citizen or Squadron 42. But they're constantly reporting good progress, yet suffer from total inability to translate that into released games.