Honestly the numbers really do not matter at this stage. 170k, 110k, 50k, 20k is not the point.
At this point SOE needs trainwreck or cu on the staion pass, why? For name value (star wars), for a "causal" game to lure in the casual players, and frankly because if they let the trainwreck stop it would be an admisson that the vision of smedly is clearly wrong.
Remember about the same time that SoE unleshed the trainwreck, smedly was all over the place before it talking about how he had a vision of the evolution of the online game from what we see "today" of the more traditional pay a monthly fee and get youg shot of fantasy/sci-fi escape. He "foresaw" that games would evolve to a more accesable entry to get in the game, then over time as you wanted more complexity, more content, more l33t ub3r items you would pay to get past that "velvet rope" of his.
We see this still with the new shiny item with each expansion that they put out for swg, only later, let let the rest have it. the rest of his velvet rope seems to have quietly died thank gods.
Will they ever fix the major failings of trainwreck? I honestly do not think that they can, ever with the very best coders to make trainwreck work as jeff envisioned it would basically require you to have a team writitng the code from scratch and then introducing it after massive reversion testing (something sony seems to have no clue or staff on). Instead I think we will all see a game that continues to try to find that middle ground hybred game, neither fish nor fowl. no one really happy with what happens but it continues because sony needs the name.
Another thing occurs to me is that SoE may keep the game if only for one reason, how would it look for another house to come along and develop a SWGMMORPG that attracted the 1 million subscribers per month that they never could?
I and all my guildmates and friends left SWG after the NGE. We had all played since day one and were so dissapointed at the changes. BUT... we would all go back in a heart beat if they rolled it back to day one and removed Jedi totaly. I was a Jedi but all they did was cause others who were not Jedi to hate them and call for nerfs. Hence all we got was balancing issues. I for one plan to play Vanguard because there will be housing that is crafted, and the Crafting systems is supposed to be like SWG was before NGE.
I would love to see SOE lose the SWG license and have someone else remake it as it was. It was truely the best game of our time and I for one miss it deaply. That is all. Thanks
Originally posted by Obraik Over the last 3 years, so many games have come out that will "kill SWG". They get released, fail to meet expectations and everything continues as usual. What makes these ones different?
SWG is NOT business as usual... right now there is alot of ego and hope involved in it running right now at all.
If you cannot see that then whatever you do in your life DO NOT GO INTO BUSINESS, you will fail.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
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Honestly the numbers really do not matter at this stage. 170k, 110k, 50k, 20k is not the point.
At this point SOE needs trainwreck or cu on the staion pass, why? For name value (star wars), for a "causal" game to lure in the casual players, and frankly because if they let the trainwreck stop it would be an admisson that the vision of smedly is clearly wrong.
Remember about the same time that SoE unleshed the trainwreck, smedly was all over the place before it talking about how he had a vision of the evolution of the online game from what we see "today" of the more traditional pay a monthly fee and get youg shot of fantasy/sci-fi escape. He "foresaw" that games would evolve to a more accesable entry to get in the game, then over time as you wanted more complexity, more content, more l33t ub3r items you would pay to get past that "velvet rope" of his.
We see this still with the new shiny item with each expansion that they put out for swg, only later, let let the rest have it. the rest of his velvet rope seems to have quietly died thank gods.
Will they ever fix the major failings of trainwreck? I honestly do not think that they can, ever with the very best coders to make trainwreck work as jeff envisioned it would basically require you to have a team writitng the code from scratch and then introducing it after massive reversion testing (something sony seems to have no clue or staff on). Instead I think we will all see a game that continues to try to find that middle ground hybred game, neither fish nor fowl. no one really happy with what happens but it continues because sony needs the name.
Another thing occurs to me is that SoE may keep the game if only for one reason, how would it look for another house to come along and develop a SWGMMORPG that attracted the 1 million subscribers per month that they never could?
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
I and all my guildmates and friends left SWG after the NGE. We had all played since day one and were so dissapointed at the changes. BUT... we would all go back in a heart beat if they rolled it back to day one and removed Jedi totaly. I was a Jedi but all they did was cause others who were not Jedi to hate them and call for nerfs. Hence all we got was balancing issues. I for one plan to play Vanguard because there will be housing that is crafted, and the Crafting systems is supposed to be like SWG was before NGE.
I would love to see SOE lose the SWG license and have someone else remake it as it was. It was truely the best game of our time and I for one miss it deaply. That is all. Thanks
SWG is NOT business as usual... right now there is alot of ego and hope involved in it running right now at all.
If you cannot see that then whatever you do in your life DO NOT GO INTO BUSINESS, you will fail.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
LOL.
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