Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
So by this theroy, my interactive screensaver is MMORPG because I can change the background color. Which I find ironic since EVE is essentally an interactive screensaver.
Can you build a space station in your screensaver and have it come under attack by members of a rival faction?
If so, your screensaver is an mmorpg, congratulations.
The only thing dumber than EVE fanboy's are EVE hateboy's. You both make WoW fanboy's look mature. But then theres only about 3 mature people on this site.
Originally posted by grinreaper Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
So by this theroy, my interactive screensaver is MMORPG because I can change the background color. Which I find ironic since EVE is essentally an interactive screensaver.
Listen man EvE is one of the bestt mmorgs out there. It's one of the most truest mmorgs still alive in that i mean you have 1 world and you can do anything in it but certain actions have consiquences. I'ts not the only mmorg but it has to be one of the best if not the best. Carebear mmorgs arnt much of a mmorg but more of a place to socialize and feel merry.
I'd like to thank all the EVE hateboi's out there for pushing this topic to the current 'Most Active' thread on the front page. Without your incessant spam and trolling, this thread would have died down after an hour or two of 'congrats'.
Originally posted by grinreaper So by this theroy, my interactive screensaver is MMORPG because I can change the background color. Which I find ironic since EVE is essentally an interactive screensaver.
If I have a screensaver so interactive that I derive years of satisfaction from messing with it…. is it still a screensaver?
Originally posted by Rudnoc Honestly. Who cares? Obvoiously only Eve players do. What is the attempt of the post any way then? To get more players? Shees, Nice it can hold 30,000 on one shard. But if your attempt to show that as popular is in error. Amount on one server doesn't make the game popular, amount in total is the end result. DDO has more players than this game and this game got a MAX Vote here at MMORPG.com Obviously this place is second home to EvE, WoW and GW fans. Not everyone wants to play EvE. Not even 10% of the MMO communty. Otherwise it would be higher on the mmogchart. That my friend is the REAL voters results. Not some abused game list rating that they have here. I am sure if you really wanted your game to shine on that list I wouldn't put it past most of the kids here to create 50 accounts just to give their favorite game all 10's. EvE is a POS and everyone knows it so stop coming here and trying to make it seem like it is such a great game. Your only fooling yourself!!!
Ummm DDO had, as of May, 90,000 subscriptions. EVE has, as of August: 170,000 subscriptions
You need to take a remedial math course. I agree that not everyone wants to play EVE. Hell... I'll even go with *most* people don't want to play EVE. It's not a game for everyone (Technically it's not even all that great a fit for me, it's just the best option for my playstyle currently available)
As far as where it falls on MMORPGCHART: 1) MMORPGCHART hasn't been updated since june 2) Even so it's in the top 10 MMORPG's and is the #2 Sci-Fi MMORPG. And as of the next update: It'll be in the top 7 and will have become the #1 Sci-Fi MMORPG as well.
What was your point again?
Next time you come to a discussion about factual data it might be a good idea to come with facts, not wild dreams and wishes.
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Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
Get your facts right. EVE isn't the only mmorpg, if you can affect the gameworld or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with what makes an mmorpg an mmorpg.
MMORPG means that a massive amount of people play a multiplayer online roleplaying game in one gameworld, as you can see, affecting the gameworld is NOT mentioned in here.
facts are facts, EVE is not the only mmorpg, and affecting the gameworld does not make a game an mmorpg. its just a feature.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
Get your facts right. EVE isn't the only mmorpg, if you can affect the gameworld or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with what makes an mmorpg an mmorpg.
MMORPG means that a massive amount of people play a multiplayer online roleplaying game in one gameworld, as you can see, affecting the gameworld is NOT mentioned in here.
facts are facts, EVE is not the only mmorpg, and affecting the gameworld does not make a game an mmorpg. its just a feature.
Agree. EVE is far from the "only" MMORPG. For *me* it's the best *currently available* MMORPG but both UO and SWG were better in their better days. That said... it's not an MMORPG that is going to appeal to most players because it's playstyle is very dry in many areas. Unfortunately all the MMORPG's that I liked better have been irrevocably altered and ruined or have such low populations now that they just aren't fun any longer.
EVE is a good MMORPG... it's not necessarily the "Best" (Since "best" is subjective and only 'personal opinion') and it's definitely not the "only" MMORPG.
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Why don't you care about whether claims are true or false? I think whether someone is lying or not is rather signficant.
[me]Because EVE fanboys are annoying and pretentious. oh, so its only jealousy. great. you are such a nice person.
Please explain your 'logic' here; I said that EVE fanboys are annoying and pretentious, and you somehow came to the conclusion that jealousy is involved. I have no desire to become annoying, pretentious, and/or an EVE fanboy.
[me]That's irrelevant to whether or not they're different things. no its not irrelevant. CCP has no way of saying who is playing on each subscription. can you tell when one account logs in who is playing it?
Yes, they are. If two things are completely different, then they're different. It doesn't matter if CCP has no easy way to determine how many players they have, the number of players and the number of accounts are simply two different things. The fact that they can track one thing easily and not another does not turn those two seperate things into the same thing.
Originally posted by baff That might be the reason it has so many fanboys, but I suspect the "hateboys" don't hate Eve at all, they just hate fanboys.
Yep. If it wasn't for the waves of "OMG, a magazine mentioned EVE! OMG, CCP reased a press release" threads, the EVE CURES CANCER comments in other threads, the insulting declarations about people who don't like EVE, and all of the other fanboy nonsense that goes on, I know I wouldn't have anything against it.
It's a game, stop milking your nipples over it and enjoy it. Why argue over # of subscriptions? Why act like you have your head so far up your ass because Eve players just want to express the news? Does the fact it's in General Discussion mean anything? Why are you making drama on a games forum. It's a GAME FORUM. If you want to get your teenage angst out goto www.dramaboys.org.
This is the most retarded thing people can argue about about a game. Go outside and play, or better yet, get your balls cut off so it can feed the millions that go hungry, and also save the world of your genetic stupidity.
As for "on topic", I think it's great Eve is going somewhere.
Originally posted by baff That might be the reason it has so many fanboys, but I suspect the "hateboys" don't hate Eve at all, they just hate fanboys.
Yep. If it wasn't for the waves of "OMG, a magazine mentioned EVE! OMG, CCP reased a press release" threads, the EVE CURES CANCER comments in other threads, the insulting declarations about people who don't like EVE, and all of the other fanboy nonsense that goes on, I know I wouldn't have anything against it.
so you are wasting your time for a game you don't care just because EVE players think it is a great game? that is something to think about.
Ryzom may or may not be a great game. Everytime somebody asks about a game similar to UO or SWG, there are 2 or 3 posters saying Ryzom is great and Ryzom skill system is open ended, and so so so. well, since i don't care at all for the game, i don't waste my time on the Ryzom forum trying to look like an idiot, or even on the General Discussion i don't jump into any thread that has the word Ryzom to make myself look dumb.
but you are wasting precious moments of your life, which you'll never get back to bash a game you really care nothing about, just because you hate its players. wow. and at the same time, you talk about things you dont understand trying to look intelligent and achiving the opposite effect.
dude, get over it. find something to do with your time. really, this is a good advise. take it.
Originally posted by Elnator Agree. EVE is far from the "only" MMORPG. For *me* it's the best *currently available* MMORPG but both UO and SWG were better in their better days. That said... it's not an MMORPG that is going to appeal to most players because it's playstyle is very dry in many areas. Unfortunately all the MMORPG's that I liked better have been irrevocably altered and ruined or have such low populations now that they just aren't fun any longer.
EVE is a good MMORPG... it's not necessarily the "Best" (Since "best" is subjective and only 'personal opinion') and it's definitely not the "only" MMORPG.
Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
So by this logic DAOC blows the socks off of Eve correct ? Cause in DAOC players can effect the game world and its population more so than EVE could ever dream to.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
So by this logic DAOC blows the socks off of Eve correct ? Cause in DAOC players can effect the game world and its population more so than EVE could ever dream to.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
I think you need to stop smoking crack and go try Eve.
Or are you one of those carebears who sits in Empire for 3 years and whines all the time.
Originally posted by fizzle322 Eve isn't the best mmorpg.
It's the ONLY mmorpg.
If you can't affect the gameworld and its population, its not an mmorpg.
The Sims Online has more credibility as an mmorpg than WoW and Guildwars. The fact that its for girls is irrelevant.
At least they had the balls to do something other than make one more EQ clone.
So by this logic DAOC blows the socks off of Eve correct ? Cause in DAOC players can effect the game world and its population more so than EVE could ever dream to.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
Originally posted by Gameloading do we REALLY have to post everytime EVE gets a new player? there is an EVE section for this.
But who am I to ruin the mood?
Congratulations EVE for buying a very expensive server, and for creating a game that has minimum server traffic. your game is still only medicore though.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by Farakon Originally posted by grinreaper So by this theroy, my interactive screensaver is MMORPG because I can change the background color. Which I find ironic since EVE is essentally an interactive screensaver.
If I have a screensaver so interactive that I derive years of satisfaction from messing with it…. is it still a screensaver?
Woah….
/my head asplode
i like screen savers where you buy and make stuff, and you blow people up and you fight in a spaceship, those screensavers are the best.
or, i guess i could go and pay a monthly fee in order to have some 19 year old goober COMMAND me to attend ALL the weekly raids for hours on end to do the same garbage over and over and over and over and over again.
oh wait, i don't like doing the same garbage ad nauseum.
cheers to morons for finding games to play and not playing any that i'm in!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
The sad truth of the matter...There is one person on the Eve-online forums that boast he runs 7 accounts, and has NOT paid CCP a dime in months. CCP's 30k record is BS just by this alone. When one is running 7 accounts...Then you go into some of the empire space zones...and see a 10 ship formation with names like GSTOMP1---GSTOMP19 mining with macro's well there in 10 more...And these guys and gals are every where.
CCP gets their money from the GTC sales...But these multiple accounts are being controled by one person. So that 30k number is not right...30k+ characters on line is more like 25k REAL people playing, probably less....
And yes...I working solo can make enough in one month to supply GTC's for two accounts. If I ran two accounts I can make enough for five accounts.
So GRATZ CCP, you have created a system where some unemployed person in REAL life can play your game and sell ISK for RL cash for free.
I found a former employee (the guy that got me hooked on Eve) in a Starbucks with two laptops going, and running four accounts. He said Wi-FI was free as long as he bought somthing once in awhile. and he was makeing enough to buy GTC's and selling stuff to support himself in game, and supplement his un-employment payments in RL....sad.
AND FOR THE RECORD! I ordered a new computer yesterday. In five days I will return to Eve-Online. (Yes I am at work) I dont like CCP's policies, nor their unwillingness to deal with E-bay sellers, nor their GTC sales. But I do love the game.
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Can you build a space station in your screensaver and have it come under attack by members of a rival faction?
If so, your screensaver is an mmorpg, congratulations.
The only thing dumber than EVE fanboy's are EVE hateboy's. You both make WoW fanboy's look mature. But then theres only about 3 mature people on this site.
Make a difference!
Listen man EvE is one of the bestt mmorgs out there. It's one of the most truest mmorgs still alive in that i mean you have 1 world and you can do anything in it but certain actions have consiquences. I'ts not the only mmorg but it has to be one of the best if not the best. Carebear mmorgs arnt much of a mmorg but more of a place to socialize and feel merry.
Thanks for your support
4 EVER, AND EVER...
THX CCP.
Eve cures carebear.
If I have a screensaver so interactive that I derive years
of satisfaction from messing with it…. is it still a screensaver?
Woah….
/my head asplode
EVE has, as of August: 170,000 subscriptions
You need to take a remedial math course. I agree that not everyone wants to play EVE. Hell... I'll even go with *most* people don't want to play EVE. It's not a game for everyone (Technically it's not even all that great a fit for me, it's just the best option for my playstyle currently available)
As far as where it falls on MMORPGCHART:
1) MMORPGCHART hasn't been updated since june
2) Even so it's in the top 10 MMORPG's and is the #2 Sci-Fi MMORPG. And as of the next update: It'll be in the top 7 and will have become the #1 Sci-Fi MMORPG as well.
What was your point again?
Next time you come to a discussion about factual data it might be a good idea to come with facts, not wild dreams and wishes.
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MMORPG means that a massive amount of people play a multiplayer online roleplaying game in one gameworld, as you can see, affecting the gameworld is NOT mentioned in here.
facts are facts, EVE is not the only mmorpg, and affecting the gameworld does not make a game an mmorpg. its just a feature.
MMORPG means that a massive amount of people play a multiplayer online roleplaying game in one gameworld, as you can see, affecting the gameworld is NOT mentioned in here.
facts are facts, EVE is not the only mmorpg, and affecting the gameworld does not make a game an mmorpg. its just a feature.
Agree. EVE is far from the "only" MMORPG. For *me* it's the best *currently available* MMORPG but both UO and SWG were better in their better days. That said... it's not an MMORPG that is going to appeal to most players because it's playstyle is very dry in many areas. Unfortunately all the MMORPG's that I liked better have been irrevocably altered and ruined or have such low populations now that they just aren't fun any longer.
EVE is a good MMORPG... it's not necessarily the "Best" (Since "best" is subjective and only 'personal opinion') and it's definitely not the "only" MMORPG.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Why don't you care about whether claims are true or false? I think whether someone is lying or not is rather signficant.
Please explain your 'logic' here; I said that EVE fanboys are annoying and pretentious, and you somehow came to the conclusion that jealousy is involved. I have no desire to become annoying, pretentious, and/or an EVE fanboy.
Yes, they are. If two things are completely different, then they're different. It doesn't matter if CCP has no easy way to determine how many players they have, the number of players and the number of accounts are simply two different things. The fact that they can track one thing easily and not another does not turn those two seperate things into the same thing.
Yep. If it wasn't for the waves of "OMG, a magazine mentioned EVE! OMG, CCP reased a press release" threads, the EVE CURES CANCER comments in other threads, the insulting declarations about people who don't like EVE, and all of the other fanboy nonsense that goes on, I know I wouldn't have anything against it.
It's a game, stop milking your nipples over it and enjoy it. Why argue over # of subscriptions? Why act like you have your head so far up your ass because Eve players just want to express the news? Does the fact it's in General Discussion mean anything? Why are you making drama on a games forum. It's a GAME FORUM. If you want to get your teenage angst out goto www.dramaboys.org.
This is the most retarded thing people can argue about about a game. Go outside and play, or better yet, get your balls cut off so it can feed the millions that go hungry, and also save the world of your genetic stupidity.
As for "on topic", I think it's great Eve is going somewhere.
Yep. If it wasn't for the waves of "OMG, a magazine mentioned EVE! OMG, CCP reased a press release" threads, the EVE CURES CANCER comments in other threads, the insulting declarations about people who don't like EVE, and all of the other fanboy nonsense that goes on, I know I wouldn't have anything against it.
so you are wasting your time for a game you don't care just because EVE players think it is a great game? that is something to think about.
Ryzom may or may not be a great game. Everytime somebody asks about a game similar to UO or SWG, there are 2 or 3 posters saying Ryzom is great and Ryzom skill system is open ended, and so so so. well, since i don't care at all for the game, i don't waste my time on the Ryzom forum trying to look like an idiot, or even on the General Discussion i don't jump into any thread that has the word Ryzom to make myself look dumb.
but you are wasting precious moments of your life, which you'll never get back to bash a game you really care nothing about, just because you hate its players. wow. and at the same time, you talk about things you dont understand trying to look intelligent and achiving the opposite effect.
dude, get over it. find something to do with your time. really, this is a good advise. take it.
Quit cockblocking.
So by this logic DAOC blows the socks off of Eve correct ? Cause in DAOC players can effect the game world and its population more so than EVE could ever dream to.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
I think you need to stop smoking crack and go try Eve.
Or are you one of those carebears who sits in Empire for 3 years and whines all the time.
So by this logic DAOC blows the socks off of Eve correct ? Cause in DAOC players can effect the game world and its population more so than EVE could ever dream to.
Eve is no better and no worse than the average MMO out there. Its a grind like the rest of them and no more innovative than a stale piece of bread.
The fact that Daoc is for girls is irelevant.
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could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
If I have a screensaver so interactive that I derive years
of satisfaction from messing with it…. is it still a screensaver?
Woah….
/my head asplode
i like screen savers where you buy and make stuff, and you blow people up and you fight in a spaceship, those screensavers are the best.
or, i guess i could go and pay a monthly fee in order to have some 19 year old goober COMMAND me to attend ALL the weekly raids for hours on end to do the same garbage over and over and over and over and over again.
oh wait, i don't like doing the same garbage ad nauseum.
cheers to morons for finding games to play and not playing any that i'm in!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
The sad truth of the matter...There is one person on the Eve-online forums that boast he runs 7 accounts, and has NOT paid CCP a dime in months. CCP's 30k record is BS just by this alone. When one is running 7 accounts...Then you go into some of the empire space zones...and see a 10 ship formation with names like GSTOMP1---GSTOMP19 mining with macro's well there in 10 more...And these guys and gals are every where.
CCP gets their money from the GTC sales...But these multiple accounts are being controled by one person. So that 30k number is not right...30k+ characters on line is more like 25k REAL people playing, probably less....
And yes...I working solo can make enough in one month to supply GTC's for two accounts. If I ran two accounts I can make enough for five accounts.
So GRATZ CCP, you have created a system where some unemployed person in REAL life can play your game and sell ISK for RL cash for free.
I found a former employee (the guy that got me hooked on Eve) in a Starbucks with two laptops going, and running four accounts. He said Wi-FI was free as long as he bought somthing once in awhile. and he was makeing enough to buy GTC's and selling stuff to support himself in game, and supplement his un-employment payments in RL....sad.
AND FOR THE RECORD! I ordered a new computer yesterday. In five days I will return to Eve-Online. (Yes I am at work) I dont like CCP's policies, nor their unwillingness to deal with E-bay sellers, nor their GTC sales. But I do love the game.