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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,488


    Originally posted by AtariFX
    I cant believe the entire AGC passed and there hasn't been a shred of news.




    lol I saw you posted that on the Bioboards. I think t was less a trade show and more a forum for devs to rant/rave shoot the breeze, trade secrets ect. ect. BTW did smed attend?
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • AtariFXAtariFX Member Posts: 44
    Also, I'm going to be very angry if it's not a SW MMO.

    With all the talk on their forums about a SW MMO - all the hype and rumors. I wish they would have just come out and said - We are currently not working on a Lucas IP -

    They are keeping thier mouths shut - using the rumors to their advantage and keeping the former SWG/unhappy players on a string.



    One of my sources claims an announcement will be made by the holidays (probably sooner since it is beginning to leak)      


    If it is a SW mmo - I'm sure there would have to be some planning with SOE. Subs would dissappear that same hour of the announcement.


    Mesa gonna ruin Star Wars forever!!!!!

  • AtariFXAtariFX Member Posts: 44


    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by AtariFX
    I cant believe the entire AGC passed and there hasn't been a shred of news.



    lol I saw you posted that on the Bioboards. I think t was less a trade show and more a forum for devs to rant/rave shoot the breeze, trade secrets ect. ect. BTW did smed attend?



    Glad people are as pumped about this as I am.

    Mesa gonna ruin Star Wars forever!!!!!

  • AtariFXAtariFX Member Posts: 44
    Once the wonderful announcement is made - only one question will remain....

    What version of the trilogy will George release on the same day as the game?

    I say the one where greedo fires first - but misses
    Then Han fires and also misses
    And then they laugh about it go on their seperate ways.


    Mesa gonna ruin Star Wars forever!!!!!

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,488
    Yeah I hope they aren't stringing us along. That may just piss people off lol. If I hear of any office window divers that day I will know why.
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by MX13
    Well, I just got a confirmation from a second source. I'm not saying it's fact, but 2 seperate sources have now said they have seen materials for it. Here we go:
    LA & Bioware are to announce a KotOR MMO. The release date is late '07. Apparently, LA decided that if everyone wanted to be Jedi, they would make a MMO in a timeline that would allow it. Materials seen apparently look similar to SWG & KotOR, including the duel Ground / Space hybrid template.
    One of my sources claims an announcement will be made by the holidays (probably sooner since it is beginning to leak) but they don't know the date. My second source is saying this is what the team will be working on at Bioware Austin, and they consider to be a "Fantasy" style MMO, just set in Star Wars. They are apparently already working on the Engine Tuning, and base Art is begnning.
    It was also added that SWG will keep going and will be sunset at the new MMO's release. My second source added they will release a Classic version of the game this Winter, but I have no confirmation source.
    Just sharing... don't be hate'in...

    So where is this game eh? End of 07? I'd think they would announce a mmo by now.

    So much for your "sources".

  • vizaviza Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by haxxjoo


    Will it have mandalorian armor too?
    In KOTOR Mando armor is very common.

    During KOTOR's timeline, the mandolorians are at their height.

  • laleblaleb Member Posts: 215

    Hmmm loved the game so might try this out if its true.

  • AveBethosAveBethos Member Posts: 611

    Bioware hasn't releaed "Mass Effect" yet...  It looks really good.  Right now it is their next big title.  We won't get an announcement for the MMO until "Mass Effect" is in stores and in our consoles.

    Once the game is launched and we're all loving it Bioware makes the announcement for the MMO.  That won't be until late Fall/Winter of 2007.  The game itself isn't due out until 2009ish...  Patience grasshoppers. 

  • rymanryman Member Posts: 227

    Originally posted by MX13


    Originally posted by jrscott


     

    Originally posted by MX13
     
    That's not what I'm saying at all... I merely was stating that many would have a problem with this, basing that on how flamed the Thread about how good VSoH was looking and them Running the VSoH Servers...



     

    True.  There will be some people who will resist playing because of ANY SOE involvement.  To them I say "Get over it.  Watch SOE swallow crow and be reduced to a glorified ISP.  Enjoy it, because there will be suffering in SOE as a result.  This is like LA telling SOE that they suck at design and coding."

    If people realize this, hopefully they can return to the game and help rebuild the community.


    I HATE SOE, but I also HATE Microsoft.... yet I still use Microsoft products... To me, they both have suspect business practices & histories...

    That said, SOE does one thing well (not great, but well): Run Servers. If that's thier roll, I would accept it. If they took over the Dev & Direction of the game, I wouldn't touch it...

    Out of curiosity what did Microsoft do?

     

    Some people are just sheep.. herding game to game.. corporation to corporation hatred.

  • TheMagicTickleTheMagicTickle Member UncommonPosts: 16

    Assuming the latest buzz is true, you had the real jump on the KotOR MMO.   A little off on the timing, but I think you can be forgiven for that.

  • solaris777solaris777 Member Posts: 117

    yeah

    it seems OP's sources really knew something

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156


    Originally posted by dolanious
    Someone here mentioned they thought it was going to be a medevil game... well I would question the wisdom of this because there already are dozens and dozens of medevil MMO's on the market now, with even more in development. Bioware announcing another fantasy game will be met with a collective yawn by the community (yes, even though BIOWARE is making it) simply from medevil-setting burnout.However, there is a severe shortage of space-based MMO's available with non even in development. If the mysterious MMO BIOWARE is working on isn't a STAR WARS property I won't exactly be surprised, but I will be surprised if it isn't a space based MMO.
    Tell me about it, I'm sick of the medival-fantasy MMO amasses; EQ1/EQ2, Lineage1/2, Runescape, Neverwinter nights, Final Fantasy, WoW, LOTRO, DDO, Legends of Norrath (it crashed several times on Smedley during his demo!), Vanguard, etc. There is a Star Trek MMO in the works and probably will be for the next 5 years.

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  • MCEscherMCEscher Member Posts: 97

    *facepalm*

     

    No way this is going to be made.  It's impossible. 

    The reason Bioware is being quiet is because they don't want to take buzz away from Mass Effect. 

     

    LucasArts would never allow EA to publish a Star Wars game.  EA would never allow Lucas Arts to publish a Bioware game. 

    Until you can get over that fact, you're just fooling yourselves. 

  • KhorianKhorian Member Posts: 64

    What I liked about KOTOR: No Luke skywalker crybaby.

    Exploring the past of the SW galaxy, like the graves of ancient Sith lords. And meeting the mandalorians, who are the coolest guys in the galaxy. If I play the KOTOR MMO I will definately become a Mandalorian.

  • jadan2000jadan2000 Member UncommonPosts: 508
    Originally posted by Rekrul


    Originally posted by Shayde

    The rumor I got was that they were actually basing it ON the pre-cu SWG. That Biowware was actually fixing it up right and providing.. what is it again.. CONTENT! That's the reason they hired pre-cu programmers.



    Rumor also came in that Raph was "consulting".. but I haven't confirmed it.




    I doubt that. Pre-cu had its merits, but it's not mainstream. KOTOR is all about mainstream.



    My guess would be quest driven storyline, instances, safe-zone cities, pvp arenas and pvp goal-driven areas.



    Simple facts:

    SWG engine is old, and overdesigned.

    It's aimed to be an overkill of a virtual world design, with complete scenegraph synchronization. Good for virtual worlds, unsuitable for games.

    Pre-cu worked as a whole. You cannot take out a few small pieces and say they are what was good.

    Console markets are almost a given.

    Their deadline is short. Very short. Too short. 3rd party engine, possibly turbine or unreal or something similar, which is incompatible and unsuitable for pre-cu type of world.



    I'm willing to bet it'll come out as a good, solid game that builds on top of KOTOR's fanbase. Who will it be designed for?



    I dont think teh game s going to be like that at all. if you remember MMORPG did an interview a while back with a developer of the project and what he described as how the game would go would really be a role playing game!

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  • jadan2000jadan2000 Member UncommonPosts: 508
    Originally posted by MX13


    Originally posted by Crayghe


    Originally posted by MikeG50

    NJO FTW
    Star Wars: Legacy era would be sweet too. (Check out the Dark Horse comics if you missed it.)



    It has Jedi, it has Sith, and it has a Galactic Empire (supported by an army of Grey Jedi). Again, removed enough from the movies to allow creative freedom, and lots of potential for exploration away from the 'historical backbone'.



    A Timeline Bump to that era, and a CU or Pre-CU combat system and I would be there in a SECOND... on top of that, SWG could support it since it's a TL bump of only about 6 years...

    Im sorry but to be honest, i dont want to see anything like swg in this new game if it comes out. SWG really didnt feel like star wars at all. I have never once felt like i was a rebel. I have never once felt like i was a jedi. i have never once felt like a smuggler. You know why?? cause i never did any smuggling, i never felt hunted like rebels, and never learned the nature of the force like jedi. If you ask me SWG had great ideas but  all of them never made you feel like you were in the star wars universe. A star wars universe should be based off of roleplaying in my opinion, So you can live and act as they did in the movies, books ect... A Satr wars universe shouldnt be fair and equal. there should be bad guys that have roles to do, there should be good guys that have jobs to do, there should be weak and humble guys that have roles and jobs to do. Most of all, there should be drama!!! lots and lots of emotional drama. From what ive read in the developer interview they did a few months back. They seem to be on the right track for me atleast

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  • Realm-ReaperRealm-Reaper Member Posts: 501

    Originally posted by jadan2000

    Originally posted by MX13


    Originally posted by Crayghe


    Originally posted by MikeG50

    NJO FTW
    Star Wars: Legacy era would be sweet too. (Check out the Dark Horse comics if you missed it.)



    It has Jedi, it has Sith, and it has a Galactic Empire (supported by an army of Grey Jedi). Again, removed enough from the movies to allow creative freedom, and lots of potential for exploration away from the 'historical backbone'.



    A Timeline Bump to that era, and a CU or Pre-CU combat system and I would be there in a SECOND... on top of that, SWG could support it since it's a TL bump of only about 6 years...

    Im sorry but to be honest, i dont want to see anything like swg in this new game if it comes out. SWG really didnt feel like star wars at all. I have never once felt like i was a rebel. I have never once felt like i was a jedi. i have never once felt like a smuggler. You know why?? cause i never did any smuggling, i never felt hunted like rebels, and never learned the nature of the force like jedi. If you ask me SWG had great ideas but  all of them never made you feel like you were in the star wars universe. A star wars universe should be based off of roleplaying in my opinion, So you can live and act as they did in the movies, books ect... A Satr wars universe shouldnt be fair and equal. there should be bad guys that have roles to do, there should be good guys that have jobs to do, there should be weak and humble guys that have roles and jobs to do. Most of all, there should be drama!!! lots and lots of emotional drama. From what ive read in the developer interview they did a few months back. They seem to be on the right track for me atleast


    I have to disagree...

    I can remember the first time I loaded in game (June 2004). It was Mos Eisley and it was just like I was in the Movie. I can remember the first time I saw a Jedi and how she helped me kill a Storm trooper. I can remember running for my life after a party member shot an IMP Probot. I loved my Bounty Hunter and I really felt like I was in the Movie...SWG before the CU was STARWARS!

  • DeltawraithDeltawraith Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by harg

    Originally posted by viza


     
    Originally posted by haxxjoo


    Will it have mandalorian armor too?
    In KOTOR Mando armor is very common.

     

    During KOTOR's timeline, the mandolorians are at their height.

    In KOTOR though the Mandalorians had just been crushed by Revan and Malak. They were a scattered shell of their former glory.

    Yes the Mandalorians lose alot of ground and seem to die out from this point on however Boba Fett brings them back up to a super power later on which is where I think a new star wars game should be. after the events of episode 6 when what happens next is all new and fresh and can be easily done by a gaming company without losing site of the Star Wars story line. Personaly if it is a KOTOR game what point is there in playing it if  anything I do in the game I will know that it has NO detrimental impact on the future events of the Star Wars saga that we are soo familar with. It should be after the empire and the newly formed republic and jedi order when there are no real dark or light jedi other than luke and the process of learning the ways of both of those are brand new. also during that time the newly formed republic is fairly weak and thats when Boba Makes a come back for the Mandalorian order. if it is a KOTOR MMO it will be severely lacking in story line for me and it will be senseless to play because I know what Lucas and others have already set into motion later on in the story and my actions in a game set before that makes no difference. so a KOTOR MMO will be just another dead end game like WoW however at least WoW gives some story line and allows you to kill key figures, however they just come back within a week so it doesnt really matter there either. Give me a KOTNR and allow me to develop a character the way I WANT and then they will have a succesful game but if it is just KOTOR hardcore gamers will be come bored with it in a year or two from lack of content and we will be stuck with another great flop of Star Wars and yet again no MMO that allows us to actually do something new.

  • Realm-ReaperRealm-Reaper Member Posts: 501

    Originally posted by Deltawraith

    Originally posted by harg

    Originally posted by viza


     
    Originally posted by haxxjoo


    Will it have mandalorian armor too?
    In KOTOR Mando armor is very common.

     

    During KOTOR's timeline, the mandolorians are at their height.

    In KOTOR though the Mandalorians had just been crushed by Revan and Malak. They were a scattered shell of their former glory.

    Yes the Mandalorians lose alot of ground and seem to die out from this point on however Boba Fett brings them back up to a super power later on which is where I think a new star wars game should be. after the events of episode 6 when what happens next is all new and fresh and can be easily done by a gaming company without losing site of the Star Wars story line. Personaly if it is a KOTOR game what point is there in playing it if  anything I do in the game I will know that it has NO detrimental impact on the future events of the Star Wars saga that we are soo familar with. It should be after the empire and the newly formed republic and jedi order when there are no real dark or light jedi other than luke and the process of learning the ways of both of those are brand new. also during that time the newly formed republic is fairly weak and thats when Boba Makes a come back for the Mandalorian order. if it is a KOTOR MMO it will be severely lacking in story line for me and it will be senseless to play because I know what Lucas and others have already set into motion later on in the story and my actions in a game set before that makes no difference. so a KOTOR MMO will be just another dead end game like WoW however at least WoW gives some story line and allows you to kill key figures, however they just come back within a week so it doesnt really matter there either. Give me a KOTNR and allow me to develop a character the way I WANT and then they will have a succesful game but if it is just KOTOR hardcore gamers will be come bored with it in a year or two from lack of content and we will be stuck with another great flop of Star Wars and yet again no MMO that allows us to actually do something new.

    Hell any number of factions could be added. That's the sweet part about using a KOTOR timeline

    SITH

    REPUBLIC

    MANDALORIAN

    SWOOP

    DARK JEDI

    ECT, ECT, ECT..............................

  • DeltawraithDeltawraith Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Realm-Reaper


     
    Originally posted by Deltawraith

    Originally posted by harg

    Originally posted by viza


     
    Originally posted by haxxjoo


    Will it have mandalorian armor too?
    In KOTOR Mando armor is very common.

     

    During KOTOR's timeline, the mandolorians are at their height.

    In KOTOR though the Mandalorians had just been crushed by Revan and Malak. They were a scattered shell of their former glory.

    Yes the Mandalorians lose alot of ground and seem to die out from this point on however Boba Fett brings them back up to a super power later on which is where I think a new star wars game should be. after the events of episode 6 when what happens next is all new and fresh and can be easily done by a gaming company without losing site of the Star Wars story line. Personaly if it is a KOTOR game what point is there in playing it if  anything I do in the game I will know that it has NO detrimental impact on the future events of the Star Wars saga that we are soo familar with. It should be after the empire and the newly formed republic and jedi order when there are no real dark or light jedi other than luke and the process of learning the ways of both of those are brand new. also during that time the newly formed republic is fairly weak and thats when Boba Makes a come back for the Mandalorian order. if it is a KOTOR MMO it will be severely lacking in story line for me and it will be senseless to play because I know what Lucas and others have already set into motion later on in the story and my actions in a game set before that makes no difference. so a KOTOR MMO will be just another dead end game like WoW however at least WoW gives some story line and allows you to kill key figures, however they just come back within a week so it doesnt really matter there either. Give me a KOTNR and allow me to develop a character the way I WANT and then they will have a succesful game but if it is just KOTOR hardcore gamers will be come bored with it in a year or two from lack of content and we will be stuck with another great flop of Star Wars and yet again no MMO that allows us to actually do something new.

     

    Hell any number of factions could be added. That's the sweet part about using a KOTOR timeline

    SITH

    REPUBLIC

    MANDALORIAN

    SWOOP

    DARK JEDI

    ECT, ECT, ECT..............................

    yes but we know how their story ends up. so whats the point if we dont feel like we are doing anything?

  • Realm-ReaperRealm-Reaper Member Posts: 501

    Originally posted by Deltawraith

    Originally posted by Realm-Reaper


     
    Originally posted by Deltawraith

    Originally posted by harg

    Originally posted by viza


     
    Originally posted by haxxjoo


    Will it have mandalorian armor too?
    In KOTOR Mando armor is very common.

     

    During KOTOR's timeline, the mandolorians are at their height.

    In KOTOR though the Mandalorians had just been crushed by Revan and Malak. They were a scattered shell of their former glory.

    Yes the Mandalorians lose alot of ground and seem to die out from this point on however Boba Fett brings them back up to a super power later on which is where I think a new star wars game should be. after the events of episode 6 when what happens next is all new and fresh and can be easily done by a gaming company without losing site of the Star Wars story line. Personaly if it is a KOTOR game what point is there in playing it if  anything I do in the game I will know that it has NO detrimental impact on the future events of the Star Wars saga that we are soo familar with. It should be after the empire and the newly formed republic and jedi order when there are no real dark or light jedi other than luke and the process of learning the ways of both of those are brand new. also during that time the newly formed republic is fairly weak and thats when Boba Makes a come back for the Mandalorian order. if it is a KOTOR MMO it will be severely lacking in story line for me and it will be senseless to play because I know what Lucas and others have already set into motion later on in the story and my actions in a game set before that makes no difference. so a KOTOR MMO will be just another dead end game like WoW however at least WoW gives some story line and allows you to kill key figures, however they just come back within a week so it doesnt really matter there either. Give me a KOTNR and allow me to develop a character the way I WANT and then they will have a succesful game but if it is just KOTOR hardcore gamers will be come bored with it in a year or two from lack of content and we will be stuck with another great flop of Star Wars and yet again no MMO that allows us to actually do something new.

     

    Hell any number of factions could be added. That's the sweet part about using a KOTOR timeline

    SITH

    REPUBLIC

    MANDALORIAN

    SWOOP

    DARK JEDI

    ECT, ECT, ECT..............................

    yes but we know how their story ends up. so whats the point if we dont feel like we are doing anything?

     

    If done the way I know they are going to do it...you won't feel that way.

    BTW....you need to change your sig...lol

  • AveBethosAveBethos Member Posts: 611

    Like we didn't know how the story would end up in SWG?  Oh that's right, SOE made up a story and stuck Jedi in a timeline in which there were none...

    See ya SWG. 

     

  • AlboinAlboin Member Posts: 64

    There you go. It's official already. Not confirmed that it will be exactly KOTOR, but almost there....

     

    http://www.lucasartsbioware.com/

     

  • Bane82Bane82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,242

    MX13, love your futurama sig lol! mind if I put it on mine?

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