Originally posted by Gameloading For me, Graphics: Lineage 2 PVE: World of Warcraft PVP: Lineage 2 Story: World of Warcraft Most anticipated: Aion New game: ArchLord Favorite game: World of Warcraft
Mine was almost identical but I voted Auto Assault instead of Archlord because of it's originality
Originally posted by MMO_Man Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
Not CCP. I did a post over there to say "hey nominee voting is open". I don't get why Eve fanbois were flamed last year, I mean... c'mon.
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Originally posted by cochi Originally posted by MMO_Man Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
Not CCP. I did a post over there to say "hey nominee voting is open". I don't get why Eve fanbois were flamed last year, I mean... c'mon.
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself maybe they are too busy enjoying the game? or maybe they don't need to because they know that the game they play has over 7.5 million subs? I don't know but those would be my conclusions.
well the game i wait for is stargate worlds. and it got my vote. for gfx and pvp my vote went to eve online. for best release of 2006 it was gw nf. rest went to eve.
Originally posted by MMO_Man Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
Not CCP. I did a post over there to say "hey nominee voting is open". I don't get why Eve fanbois were flamed last year, I mean... c'mon.
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
maybe they are too busy enjoying the game? or maybe they don't need to because they know that the game they play has over 7.5 million subs? I don't know but those would be my conclusions.
Looks like it isnt possable to have a single thread without the WOW and the EVE fanboys having a go at each other . I find it pathetic. Ever heard of personal opinion ?? Free speach ?? hmm guess not ey
And I voted for EVE btw but i wouldnt hold it against anyone if they voted WOW.
worst game of the year ARCHLORD; in fact most Asian games could get this award every year. As a Westerner I just don't like anything about them; point and click combat, point and click movement, grind, farming;
Originally posted by MMO_Man Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
Not CCP. I did a post over there to say "hey nominee voting is open". I don't get why Eve fanbois were flamed last year, I mean... c'mon.
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Originally posted by Gameloading For me, Graphics: Lineage 2 PVE: World of Warcraft PVP: Lineage 2 Story: World of Warcraft Most anticipated: Aion New game: ArchLord Favorite game: World of Warcraft
Either you are noobs to MMOs or you never gave EVE a (fair) chance or you are pure 100% carebears or the depth/learning curve of EVE blew you away.
Either you are noobs to MMOs or you never gave EVE a (fair) chance or you are pure 100% carebears or the depth/learning curve of EVE blew you away.
I agree with your sentiment but there is no need to insult five star members. If they choose to play certain games it is a matter of individual choice (and thier lack of taste!)
By the way if you really are a dev make me a skills based fantasy mmo!
Also one could argue EVE is a care bear game compared with Project Entropia but I won't for the sake of argument.
Graphics: Lineage 2 PVE: World of Warcraft PVP: Lineage 2 Story: World of Warcraft Most anticipated: Aion New game: ArchLord Favorite game: World of Warcraft
Either you are noobs to MMOs or you never gave EVE a (fair) chance or you are pure 100% carebears or the depth/learning curve of EVE blew you away.
You are SO right, yes, that MUST be it! It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character, and neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay. No, it must be because I'm a noob.
Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things.
I could understand your bashing of WoW's PvP, everyone does it so why not join the masses, right? But LIneage II? That's some hardcore FFA PvP last time I checked. Just because you can't lose everything doesn't mean you still can't get ganked. And let's face it, that's what most EVE fanbois proclaim here on the thread, how being ganked is the sign of being hardcore.
"It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character"
Like to play to advance? You mean HAVE to play to advance. To become a better blacksmith you must kill 7885894 trolls, then raise the blacksmithing skill. To compete with all the best gamers, you must grind as much or more than they do. Most MMOs make it so you cant compete unless you have no life. In EVE this does not exist. You are rewarded for playing a lot by having more knowledge of the game and your local surroundings, as well as having increased OPPORTUNITY to make more in game money. (Some new players or players that dont have much in-game time who intelligently try out some interesting plan they devize are able to become very, very wealthy. Other MMOs dont offer this potential to such an extent because they are relativly simple and limited.) In EVE player knowledge = power. In other games some knowledge is required, but most of what makes you strong is your equipment that is soulbound to you and the number of hours you spent killing rats, large bats, zombies, lizardmen, and icegiants (in that order).
"neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay."
If you found EVEs gameplay to be slow it is because you were playing it wrong. Join a corporation focused on small ship pvp and go out and have a blast pvping at top speed to your hearts content. Or do the same with pve, or become a major market tycoon and youll find you need 4 arms to keep up with everything you need to do to stay ahead of your stiff competition.
"Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things."
Sorry, EVE is simply the best MMO out there and it looks like it will remain that way for a while. Hate sci-fi? Then I can understand why getting into EVE (at first) might take some time. But you should know that EVE *is* the future of all MMORPGs. EVE is a new breed. EVE is alive and will live forever. Other MMOs are all dead end junk.
When a Fantasy MMO comes out that matches EVE in perfection I might switch, but until then if you're not playing EVE, you're missing out.
I am not going to continue this debate, Because I don't want this topic to turn into a discussion about EVE. I don't like EVE, and I don't think its the best MMORPG, Diffrent people look for diffrent things in MMORPG's, and EVE does not provide what I am looking for. Live with it.
Originally posted by Gameloading I am not going to continue this debate, Because I don't want this topic to turn into a discussion about EVE. I don't like EVE, and I don't think its the best MMORPG, Diffrent people look for diffrent things in MMORPG's, and EVE does not provide what I am looking for. Live with it.
Originally posted by TheDeveloper "It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character"
Like to play to advance? You mean HAVE to play to advance. To become a better blacksmith you must kill 7885894 trolls, then learn raise the blacksmithing skill. To compete with all the best gamers, you must grind as much or more than they do. Most MMOs make it so you cant compete unless you have no life. In EVE this does not exist. You are rewarded for playing a lot by having more knowledge of the game and your local surroundings, as well as having increased OPPORTUNITY to make more in game money. In EVE player knowledge = power. In other games some knowledge is required, but most of what makes you strong is your equipment that is soulbound to you and the number of hours you spent killing rats, large bats, zombies, lizardmen, and icegiants (in that order).
"neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay."
If you found EVEs gameplay to be slow it is because you were playing it wrong. Join a corporation focused on small ship pvp and go out and have a blast pvping at top speed to your hearts content. Or do the same with pve, or become a major market tycoon and youll find you need 4 arms to keep up with everything you need to do to stay ahead of your stiff competition.
"Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things."
Sorry, EVE is simply the best MMO out there and it looks like it wil lremain that way for a while. Hate sci fi? Then I can understand why getting into EVE (at first) might take some time. But you should know that EVE *is* the future of all MMORPGs. EVE is a new breed. EVE is alive and will live forever. Other MMOs are all dead end junk.
When a Fantasy MMO comes out that matches EVE in perfection I might switch, but until then if you're not palying EVE, you're wrong.
Originally posted by Cerion I am still disappointed that Guild Wars receives cosideration for its 'expansion' packs. I know you have some arbitrary definition in place, but I think your definition needs to be refined. With their expansions taking up the ranking, and now infiltrating the yearly readers choice awards, your ranking systems are loosing credibility in my book.
Guild Wars Factions and Guild Wars Nightfall are stand-alone games that happen to work together with the original Guild Wars Prophecies. The fact that all the campaigns work together does not take away from the fact that they stand on their own as separate games. One can own and enjoy any one, two, or all three, together or independently. This, in my opinion, is an extraordinary accomplishment in the MMORPG field. The Guild Wars games are incredibly accessible yet have a depth of story and tactical PvP that is unrivaled - so they all merit "consideration", as you put it. The fact that Factions AND Nightfall were both produced in 2006 is only to NCSoft's credit.
If they were stand alone games, they would use seperate servers. What if I buy Nightfall, but I am forced to PvP with those with the Prophecies game? Being forced to PvP with others in another game just says one thing; that it really isn't a stand alone game. A stand alone game wouldn't depend on anything from the others, including the server or the community to PvP with.
Originally posted by TheDeveloper "It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character"
Like to play to advance? You mean HAVE to play to advance. To become a better blacksmith you must kill 7885894 trolls, then raise the blacksmithing skill. To compete with all the best gamers, you must grind as much or more than they do. Most MMOs make it so you cant compete unless you have no life. In EVE this does not exist. You are rewarded for playing a lot by having more knowledge of the game and your local surroundings, as well as having increased OPPORTUNITY to make more in game money. (Some new players or players that dont have much in-game time who intelligently try out some interesting plan they devize are able to become very, very wealthy. Other MMOs dont offer this potential to such an extent because they are relativly simple and limited.) In EVE player knowledge = power. In other games some knowledge is required, but most of what makes you strong is your equipment that is soulbound to you and the number of hours you spent killing rats, large bats, zombies, lizardmen, and icegiants (in that order).
"neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay."
If you found EVEs gameplay to be slow it is because you were playing it wrong. Join a corporation focused on small ship pvp and go out and have a blast pvping at top speed to your hearts content. Or do the same with pve, or become a major market tycoon and youll find you need 4 arms to keep up with everything you need to do to stay ahead of your stiff competition.
"Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things."
Sorry, EVE is simply the best MMO out there and it looks like it will remain that way for a while. Hate sci-fi? Then I can understand why getting into EVE (at first) might take some time. But you should know that EVE *is* the future of all MMORPGs. EVE is a new breed. EVE is alive and will live forever. Other MMOs are all dead end junk.
When a Fantasy MMO comes out that matches EVE in perfection I might switch, but until then if you're not playing EVE, you're missing out.
Some people play MMORPG's to RP in and to overcome NPC challenges with a group of friends, not to compete. So stop assuming that every person who logs on this forum is a competitor in the MMORPG market. MMORPG's started off being virtual worlds and that is how many of us older people see them. A lot of us don't see them as a way to compete.
Originally posted by nthnaoun Some people play MMORPG's to RP in and to overcome NPC challenges with a group of friends, not to compete. So stop assuming that every person who logs on this forum is a competitor in the MMORPG market. MMORPG's started off being virtual worlds and that is how many of us older people see them. A lot of us don't see them as a way to compete.
You never gave EVE a chance, by your own admission. Why not try it now? Please note that you do not need to pvp in the traditional sense (combat/killing) to enjoy EVE.
Nightfall did include a shader upgrade to it to DX9, and I shall bow eternally to it. Btw you really can't compare sci-fi graphics to fantasy graphics, so I guess personal favoritism falls into it.
GW PvP forever, never seen such a balanced game in history of all games, and with such competivity.
Nightfall's story is really good, well, at least it's better than Factions/Prophecies together, although one might say it's because they've actually linked them to a single source
I'll consider EVE when they do make the graphics update, although what might really conquer me will be the day they add decent physics to the game (as in my ship is almost destroyed, it deserves to look like it), we can actually walk by stations (as in currently I am glued to a chair while playing, and my avatar is glued to a capsule), and the game goes also about a decent planet exploration system. I like the economy (actually it's the best I've seen, really), the PvP (brings back the old school Ultima Online's die and you lose what you're carrying fear, but may also bring frustrations if you're unlucky enough to find some pirate that is years of skill development ahead of you) and the skill system (I don't really have to be in the mood of grinding to increase my level in this game, I can just leave it skill developing and play whenever I feel like playing) but that's not enough for me currently. I like everything GW offers and that's why I choose it as my favorite game in the awards I think it deserves.
Originally posted by nthnaoun
Originally posted by hlampert
Originally posted by Cerion I am still disappointed that Guild Wars receives cosideration for its 'expansion' packs. I know you have some arbitrary definition in place, but I think your definition needs to be refined. With their expansions taking up the ranking, and now infiltrating the yearly readers choice awards, your ranking systems are loosing credibility in my book.
Guild Wars Factions and Guild Wars Nightfall are stand-alone games that happen to work together with the original Guild Wars Prophecies. The fact that all the campaigns work together does not take away from the fact that they stand on their own as separate games. One can own and enjoy any one, two, or all three, together or independently. This, in my opinion, is an extraordinary accomplishment in the MMORPG field. The Guild Wars games are incredibly accessible yet have a depth of story and tactical PvP that is unrivaled - so they all merit "consideration", as you put it. The fact that Factions AND Nightfall were both produced in 2006 is only to NCSoft's credit.
If they were stand alone games, they would use seperate servers. What if I buy Nightfall, but I am forced to PvP with those with the Prophecies game? Being forced to PvP with others in another game just says one thing; that it really isn't a stand alone game. A stand alone game wouldn't depend on anything from the others, including the server or the community to PvP with.
It's stand alone as in, owning only one Chapter will only have actual access to contents of it.
It's stand alone as in, if you want to start playing GW, won't have to spend $150 for the 3 games at once, buy one, if you like it, buy the rest.
It's stand alone as in, these "expansions" have enough content for a whole new game. If it would be an expansion, GW would have the most complete expansions ever seen.
It's stand alone as in, if I were playing Magic the Gathering against someone, would I think it's unfair if that player has different cards than me, yet if the cards are very balanced? That's how the skills in GW work.
You and all people who think the same as you don't understand because you haven't even played GW, simply don't like it or didn't spend enough time in the game to taste the true competitivity and gameplay it offers. I may the like the game you do like and I'm not bashing it here, am I? And as GW has 2 stand alone Chapters released every year, I'm really happy that MMORPG.com understands the fact that they ARE stand alone, making it a single game on Ranking would be highly inacurrate and not putting GW for choice as best of the year would be unfair to the GW community.
Originally posted by nthnaoun Some people play MMORPG's to RP in and to overcome NPC challenges with a group of friends, not to compete. So stop assuming that every person who logs on this forum is a competitor in the MMORPG market. MMORPG's started off being virtual worlds and that is how many of us older people see them. A lot of us don't see them as a way to compete.
You never gave EVE a chance, by your own admission. Why not try it now? Please note that you do not need to pvp in the traditional sense (combat/killing) to enjoy EVE.
I did the free 14 day trial and I didn't like it. The community was nice with the exception of you, judging by the post you recently posted stating all players of other games aside from EvE are noobs and carebears. I just didn't like not being a real person, I was just a ship. I like the economy system, the PvP ideas, but I hate the real time skill system. I like to be able to control the speed that I advance. I am a casual player too, so don't try to label me without a life. I am just happy gaining my first 12 levels in one week on WoW while RPing (which is extremely slow leveling).
To sum it up, EvE wasn't a bad game. But the lack of a ground game and the pace was just not my thing. If and when EvE implements planets that you can walk on, fight on, and live your whole life on, is when i will come back.
Originally posted by EricDanie It's stand alone as in, owning only one Chapter will only have actual access to contents of it. It's stand alone as in, if you want to start playing GW, won't have to spend $150 for the 3 games at once, buy one, if you like it, buy the rest. It's stand alone as in, these "expansions" have enough content for a whole new game. If it would be an expansion, GW would have the most complete expansions ever seen. It's stand alone as in, if I were playing Magic the Gathering against someone, would I think it's unfair if that player has different cards than me, yet if the cards are very balanced? That's how the skills in GW work. You and all people who think the same as you don't understand because you haven't even played GW, simply don't like it or didn't spend enough time in the game to taste the true competitivity and gameplay it offers. I may the like the game you do like and I'm not bashing it here, am I? And as GW has 2 stand alone Chapters released every year, I'm really happy that MMORPG.com understands the fact that they ARE stand alone, making it a single game on Ranking would be highly inacurrate and not putting GW for choice as best of the year would be unfair to the GW community.
What in this makes it different from any other game with multiple expansions? Often you can buy the latest expansion without buying the earlier ones. If you do then you can not experience the content in those earlier expansions and you can not play the classes/races provided by them either but you end up playing against people who do have it.
Only difference I see is that when most other mmorpgs release a new expansion they start to include the earlier ones for free while in GW you have to pay for them all...
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All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
maybe they are too busy enjoying the game? or maybe they don't need to because they know that the game they play has over 7.5 million subs? I don't know but those would be my conclusions.
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Graphics: Ryzom
PvE: AO
PvP: none, I don't PvP
Story: AO has one of the largest stories/lore ever if you look for it. Anyway, my choice.
Most Anticipated: Age of Conan
New Game: none
Favorite Game: AO
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
maybe they are too busy enjoying the game? or maybe they don't need to because they know that the game they play has over 7.5 million subs? I don't know but those would be my conclusions.
Looks like it isnt possable to have a single thread without the WOW and the EVE fanboys having a go at each other
. I find it pathetic. Ever heard of personal opinion ?? Free speach ?? hmm guess not ey
And I voted for EVE btw but i wouldnt hold it against anyone if they voted WOW.
All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
Good thing EVE staff would NEVER do This
Either you are noobs to MMOs or you never gave EVE a (fair) chance or you are pure 100% carebears or the depth/learning curve of EVE blew you away.
I agree with your sentiment but there is no need to insult five star members. If they choose to play certain games it is a matter of individual choice (and thier lack of taste!)
By the way if you really are a dev make me a skills based fantasy mmo!
Also one could argue EVE is a care bear game compared with Project Entropia but I won't for the sake of argument.
You are SO right, yes, that MUST be it! It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character, and neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay. No, it must be because I'm a noob.
Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things.
"It obviously can't be that I like to actually PLAY to advance my character"
Like to play to advance? You mean HAVE to play to advance. To become a better blacksmith you must kill 7885894 trolls, then raise the blacksmithing skill. To compete with all the best gamers, you must grind as much or more than they do. Most MMOs make it so you cant compete unless you have no life. In EVE this does not exist. You are rewarded for playing a lot by having more knowledge of the game and your local surroundings, as well as having increased OPPORTUNITY to make more in game money. (Some new players or players that dont have much in-game time who intelligently try out some interesting plan they devize are able to become very, very wealthy. Other MMOs dont offer this potential to such an extent because they are relativly simple and limited.) In EVE player knowledge = power. In other games some knowledge is required, but most of what makes you strong is your equipment that is soulbound to you and the number of hours you spent killing rats, large bats, zombies, lizardmen, and icegiants (in that order).
"neither does it have anything to do that I like games to be a little more fast paced, then EVE's extreme slow gameplay."
If you found EVEs gameplay to be slow it is because you were playing it wrong. Join a corporation focused on small ship pvp and go out and have a blast pvping at top speed to your hearts content. Or do the same with pve, or become a major market tycoon and youll find you need 4 arms to keep up with everything you need to do to stay ahead of your stiff competition.
"Your living up to the EVE player stereotype. your just an elitist who can't understand diffrent people like diffrent things."
Sorry, EVE is simply the best MMO out there and it looks like it will remain that way for a while. Hate sci-fi? Then I can understand why getting into EVE (at first) might take some time. But you should know that EVE *is* the future of all MMORPGs. EVE is a new breed. EVE is alive and will live forever. Other MMOs are all dead end junk.
When a Fantasy MMO comes out that matches EVE in perfection I might switch, but until then if you're not playing EVE, you're missing out.
Fair enough.
If they were stand alone games, they would use seperate servers. What if I buy Nightfall, but I am forced to PvP with those with the Prophecies game? Being forced to PvP with others in another game just says one thing; that it really isn't a stand alone game. A stand alone game wouldn't depend on anything from the others, including the server or the community to PvP with.
SWG: 6 months
You never gave EVE a chance, by your own admission. Why not try it now? Please note that you do not need to pvp in the traditional sense (combat/killing) to enjoy EVE.CoH: 2 months
DDO: Beta & 1 month
Guildwars
EQ2: 2months
LineageII: 1 month
Horizons: 2 months
Planetside: 1 month
Shadowbane: 1month
Motorcity Online: A few months
Favorite new game 2006?
Muhahahahahahahahahah....
That was funny!
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And for the rest: Guild Wars
Nightfall did include a shader upgrade to it to DX9, and I shall bow eternally to it. Btw you really can't compare sci-fi graphics to fantasy graphics, so I guess personal favoritism falls into it.
GW PvP forever, never seen such a balanced game in history of all games, and with such competivity.
Nightfall's story is really good, well, at least it's better than Factions/Prophecies together, although one might say it's because they've actually linked them to a single source
I'll consider EVE when they do make the graphics update, although what might really conquer me will be the day they add decent physics to the game (as in my ship is almost destroyed, it deserves to look like it), we can actually walk by stations (as in currently I am glued to a chair while playing, and my avatar is glued to a capsule), and the game goes also about a decent planet exploration system. I like the economy (actually it's the best I've seen, really), the PvP (brings back the old school Ultima Online's die and you lose what you're carrying fear, but may also bring frustrations if you're unlucky enough to find some pirate that is years of skill development ahead of you) and the skill system (I don't really have to be in the mood of grinding to increase my level in this game, I can just leave it skill developing and play whenever I feel like playing) but that's not enough for me currently. I like everything GW offers and that's why I choose it as my favorite game in the awards I think it deserves.
Guild Wars Factions and Guild Wars Nightfall are stand-alone games that happen to work together with the original Guild Wars Prophecies. The fact that all the campaigns work together does not take away from the fact that they stand on their own as separate games. One can own and enjoy any one, two, or all three, together or independently. This, in my opinion, is an extraordinary accomplishment in the MMORPG field. The Guild Wars games are incredibly accessible yet have a depth of story and tactical PvP that is unrivaled - so they all merit "consideration", as you put it. The fact that Factions AND Nightfall were both produced in 2006 is only to NCSoft's credit.If they were stand alone games, they would use seperate servers. What if I buy Nightfall, but I am forced to PvP with those with the Prophecies game? Being forced to PvP with others in another game just says one thing; that it really isn't a stand alone game. A stand alone game wouldn't depend on anything from the others, including the server or the community to PvP with.
It's stand alone as in, owning only one Chapter will only have actual access to contents of it.
It's stand alone as in, if you want to start playing GW, won't have to spend $150 for the 3 games at once, buy one, if you like it, buy the rest.
It's stand alone as in, these "expansions" have enough content for a whole new game. If it would be an expansion, GW would have the most complete expansions ever seen.
It's stand alone as in, if I were playing Magic the Gathering against someone, would I think it's unfair if that player has different cards than me, yet if the cards are very balanced? That's how the skills in GW work.
You and all people who think the same as you don't understand because you haven't even played GW, simply don't like it or didn't spend enough time in the game to taste the true competitivity and gameplay it offers. I may the like the game you do like and I'm not bashing it here, am I? And as GW has 2 stand alone Chapters released every year, I'm really happy that MMORPG.com understands the fact that they ARE stand alone, making it a single game on Ranking would be highly inacurrate and not putting GW for choice as best of the year would be unfair to the GW community.
SWG: 6 months
You never gave EVE a chance, by your own admission. Why not try it now? Please note that you do not need to pvp in the traditional sense (combat/killing) to enjoy EVE.CoH: 2 months
DDO: Beta & 1 month
Guildwars
EQ2: 2months
LineageII: 1 month
Horizons: 2 months
Planetside: 1 month
Shadowbane: 1month
Motorcity Online: A few months
I did the free 14 day trial and I didn't like it. The community was nice with the exception of you, judging by the post you recently posted stating all players of other games aside from EvE are noobs and carebears. I just didn't like not being a real person, I was just a ship. I like the economy system, the PvP ideas, but I hate the real time skill system. I like to be able to control the speed that I advance. I am a casual player too, so don't try to label me without a life. I am just happy gaining my first 12 levels in one week on WoW while RPing (which is extremely slow leveling).
To sum it up, EvE wasn't a bad game. But the lack of a ground game and the pace was just not my thing. If and when EvE implements planets that you can walk on, fight on, and live your whole life on, is when i will come back.
Only difference I see is that when most other mmorpgs release a new expansion they start to include the earlier ones for free while in GW you have to pay for them all...
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