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General: 2006 Reader's Choice Awards: Nominations

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  • pauloduartepauloduarte Member Posts: 1
    If EVE has a lot of fanbois there must be a reason somewhere. image


  • WrayethWrayeth Member Posts: 229

    I find it amusing that some of the people on this site think that there's some massive conspiracy involving the EVE devs and players to artificially boost EVE's rating.  As I said last year, it's time to drag out your tinfoil hats, because "obviously" no one is safe from CCP. image

    Seriously, EVE players just play the damned game.  I have one and only one MMORPG.com login which I check sporadically from time to time.  I know of no one with multiple MMORPG.com accounts.

    As for the actual vote, I voted for EVE in the categories where I felt it deserved the win.

    For graphics, I voted EVE - dated as they are, the graphics are still stunning.

    For PvP, it was no contest.

    For story, I almost didn't vote because I don't know enough about the stories of the other games out there.  I know I'd rate EVE's backstory highly, but I'm not sure that I would call it the best.  However, it was then that I realized there's another aspect to story that's pretty much unique to EVE: the player-driven one.  In no other MMO do the players shape the universe as much, and it's all on one server to boot.  Taking this into account, I decided that EVE was truly deserving of this one, and cast my vote accordingly.

    Despite my disagreements with a number of the things CCP are doing in Kali (and quite a few things I think they SHOULD be doing but are not), EVE still wins out for my overall MMO favorite game, so I voted accordingly in that category as well.

    In all of the other categories save one, my lack of knowledge of other recent MMOs, combined with my certainty that EVE was definitely not the best in that category, I chose not to vote.

    In the one other category I did vote in, I voted for Vanguard: SoH as my most anticipated game.  In Vanguard's case, I originally discovered it when I was browsing the websites of several of my favorite artists and discovered that Keith Parkinson had accepted a position as art director at Sigil Games.  Intrigued by the possibility that an MMO might have the same look as one of his paintings, looked into the game further and discovered that, in addition to graphics that look like true art, Vanguard's slightly different approach to a traditional fantasy MMO appealed to me.  Thus, I'm eagerly awaiting the chance to try it out.

     

    -Wrayeth
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    "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by Minsc



    Originally posted by ravex5

    These awards are pointless. They dont show anything except the fact that EVE fanbois have once again flooded the system. CCP told all the EVE fans to come vote and so they are. If Blizzard did the same thing I guarantee WoW would win by sheer numbers. These awards show nothing except how many EVE fanatics this site attracts.


    EVE devs never said WHAT to vote for, just to come vote.



    Reader's Choice voting underway at MMORPG.com

    MMORPG.com has announced that voting has begun for the 2006 Player's Choice Awards. Thanks for our enthusiastic and supportive community, EVE Online kicked some serious award buttocks last year, winning four out of seven possible categories. Can we do it again? You bet your Leviathan we can, but only if you cast your vote now!

     



    If you can't see that is the same thing as asking to vote for EVE, then words can't even discribe how biased you are.



  • Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by Minsc



    Originally posted by ravex5

    These awards are pointless. They dont show anything except the fact that EVE fanbois have once again flooded the system. CCP told all the EVE fans to come vote and so they are. If Blizzard did the same thing I guarantee WoW would win by sheer numbers. These awards show nothing except how many EVE fanatics this site attracts.


    EVE devs never said WHAT to vote for, just to come vote.



    Reader's Choice voting underway at MMORPG.com

    MMORPG.com has announced that voting has begun for the 2006 Player's Choice Awards. Thanks for our enthusiastic and supportive community, EVE Online kicked some serious award buttocks last year, winning four out of seven possible categories. Can we do it again? You bet your Leviathan we can, but only if you cast your vote now!

     



    If you can't see that is the same thing as asking to vote for EVE, then words can't even discribe how biased you are.



    I agree. I don't care who wins so CCP can do whatever they want.
  • GhellamGhellam Member Posts: 1



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by Minsc



    Originally posted by ravex5

    These awards are pointless. They dont show anything except the fact that EVE fanbois have once again flooded the system. CCP told all the EVE fans to come vote and so they are. If Blizzard did the same thing I guarantee WoW would win by sheer numbers. These awards show nothing except how many EVE fanatics this site attracts.


    EVE devs never said WHAT to vote for, just to come vote.



    Reader's Choice voting underway at MMORPG.com

    MMORPG.com has announced that voting has begun for the 2006 Player's Choice Awards. Thanks for our enthusiastic and supportive community, EVE Online kicked some serious award buttocks last year, winning four out of seven possible categories. Can we do it again? You bet your Leviathan we can, but only if you cast your vote now!

     



    If you can't see that is the same thing as asking to vote for EVE, then words can't even discribe how biased you are.



    I'm neither attacking WoW, nor endorsing EVE, and I really don't want to become involved in this fight even though this will probably cause me too. I think you have made some good points and I think others have as well, and now its my turn.

    Firstly, you are wrong by saying they are asking to vote for EVE, they stated they won some categories last year, and then said they thought they would win again. They then stated the only possible way for them to win is if people vote. Are you trying to say that if people don't vote for EVE, that makes it more fair?

    Secondly, even if they were trying to get people to vote for the game they made and work hard on everyday, so what? If you made a game, and worked hard on it, and made money off of it, you would want people to express their opinions about it, especially when the opinions are good.

    Thirdly, of course people are biased, saying they aren't is just stupid. You're asking people to vote for their favorite  game. The definition of bias (there were several I took the one relating to our discussion), taken from dictionary.com - a particular tendency or incliination, especially one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice. Now when asking "what's your favorite?" you're asking for a biased opinion, and I think most people (WoW and EVE fanboys alike) will agree with me.

    Lastly, to the orininal quotee, ravex5, you're probably right and if Blizzard made the same statement CCP did on their website, maybe more WoW people would vote and they would win. Too bad they don't.

    P.S. Just to let anyone who might reply to this know, I'll probably forget about this by tomorrow so I might not post about this again.

  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273



    Originally posted by Urza123
    I agree, this year was probably the worst year in MMO history. I hope 2007 will be better.




    Geez, this was my first year playing MMORPGs. I liked Legend of Ares until I got disconnected like every 10 minutes......then after joining MMORPG.com I tried Dungeons & Dragons Online, I was impressed!

    so they got my vote in everything except PVP, still gave that to Legend of Ares just because a lot of areas are riddled with pvpers and you have no choice but to go by them to get to your training areas. So sometimes it seemed intense just trying to train :)

  • moreomoreo Member Posts: 20



    Originally posted by jrgambit
    In my opinion this survey need a no choice / not applicable option.


    For example, I did not have a favorite release in 2006, and i think i got around voting for one of the choices by going to the next page, but still, the option not to vote is needed.

    Otherwise, I look forward to the results.



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    "If you can only feel safe when everybody else feels, thinks and looks the same as you, then you're a Hood-damned coward...not to mention a vicious tyrant in the making." -Scillara

  • cryptologiccryptologic Member Posts: 8

    A lot of these catagories seem hard to quantify. With so many different MMO's out there, what are the chances that someone really knows enough about all of them (much less played more than one or two) to make a really informed vote. I think this will simply come down to a popularity contest at best.

    With that said, I'm really looking forward to Age of Conan and Stargate Worlds. ;-)

    Crypto


  • AtronaxAtronax Member Posts: 2

    Fav Graphics : EvE Online. From 03 till now..

    Fav PVE : Dark Messiah of...oh.=)..EQ2

    Fav PVP : EvE

    Fav Story : .

    Most Anticipated : StarTrekOnline

    Fav new game : PhantasyStarUniverse

    Fav Game : EvE

  • FlashjunkyFlashjunky Member Posts: 1

    Why are the HUGE game-changing updates to EVE not listed as releases??  I wanted to vote for EVE even more than I did!

    Also, need a new category - worst MMORPG you ever wasted money on:  WoW - I want my money AND the time I wasted back :(

    TTFN!

  • loankloank Member Posts: 1

    wow shite i go for eve big win yes all 2003 and 2004 and and 2005 and 2006 make shite game no good playgame i look for good game long time good game eve

  • MonroeMonroe Member Posts: 15
    image I think this is only my third time ever posting but I felt compelled to say that 2006 was the sorriest year in mmorpg history.  Every game that came out was HORRID and all of our favorites have succombed to what I like to call WOW disease.  TO ALL GAME MAKERS WE HAVE A WOW WE DO NOT WANT ANOTHER CRAPPY VERSION OF IT.  In 2007 I would love to see the return of skill based games like SWG used to be before the idiot MORON DEVS took over affectively killing the game off.  Looking forward to 2007 or RETURN OF CHALLENGING GAMES THAT KIDS WILL STAY AWAY FROM (hopefully image)

    The Pissed off BH

  • tiboristotiboristo Member Posts: 5
     My vote:

     FAVORITE GRAPHISME: EVE online


     FAVORITE PVE: World of warcraft


     FAVORITE PVP: none


     FAVORITE STORY: The Saga of Ryzom


     MOST ANTICIPATED: The chronique of Spellborn


     



  • bebabeba Member Posts: 3

    The Chronicles of Spellborn will be the best game! Best PvP best gamesystem cool graphic and nice pVe =) TCoS ftw! Best PvP now - WorldofWarcraft (but only open pvp raiding some cities or 5on5 PVP in gurubashi^^)

  • ladyloreladylore Member Posts: 126

    Fav Graphics: Lineage 2

    Fav PVE: Everquest II

    Fav PVP:  Lineage 2

    Fav Story: Saga of Ryzom

    Most Anticipated: Was a tie for me between Age of Conan and Star Trek Online.  Voted for Age of Conan because it seems the most daring and mature of all upcoming games.

    Fav New Game of 2006:  I voted for Guild Wars.  It can be debated whether or not this is an actual MMO, I'm sure.  But even if it ain't a MMO, it is STILL a better MMO than those other sad games that came out this year. 

    Fav Game - Everquest II

  • checkthis500checkthis500 Member Posts: 1,236

    Originally posted by Synyster777
    Originally posted by cochi
    Originally posted by MMO_Man
    Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
    Not CCP. I did a post over there to say "hey nominee voting is open". I don't get why Eve fanbois were flamed last year, I mean... c'mon.

    All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.

    Draw your conclusions yourself

    maybe they are too busy enjoying the game? or maybe they don't need to because they know that the game they play has over 7.5 million subs? I don't know but those would be my conclusions.

    Maybe they're mostly korean and don't hang out on an English site. :p


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  • checkthis500checkthis500 Member Posts: 1,236

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by ssstupido
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.

    ok, i am sick and tired of people saying how this site is so off from reality and how EVE is not highly valued outside MMORPG. to begin with, i will say that the information i will give is non important for me. i value much more the ratings here than anywhere else, but seeing as some poster (specially gameloading) have trouble accepting ratings here...

    from gamespot ------- EVE Online: Second Genesis here

    review - 6.6, done on May 6, 2003

    player review - 8.3 (OMG!!!! 8.3 its the same than somewhere i know...)

    other publications review average - 7.4 -  25 reviews most of them from june-july 2003

    some gems from the original review "The lack of clear-cut incentives, risks, and rewards leaves the world of EVE seeming empty", "There's a text-based tutorial that kicks off when you first begin playing", "Mining is the only viable way to make money early on in EVE, and it's really one of the only viable ways of making money in the game at all", "The game has some interesting features that aren't fully fleshed out yet, such as its player-driven economy"

    as you can see, either those sentences are lies, or are completely outdated

    from gamespot ------ EVE Online: Exodus here

    no review from gamespot

    player review - 9.1  oh noes, the conspiration is here!!!!

    other publications review average - 8.9 -  7 reviews most of them from march 2005 (hey, but 8.3 on MMORPG is way too high!!!!, how can it be other sites give it a 8.9????)

    and of course, after exodus, there has been another big expansion called Red Moon Rising, and on December will begin the next expansion, called Kali.

    now, please, whenever you feel like bashing EVE, just say you dont like it, but dont make yourself look like an idiot saying that only MMORPG.com rates EVE so high


    Name me Three website's,Three, (although I'll be impressed if you can find 1), where EVE is rated number 1, above WoW, and while your at it, also try to find a website where EQ2, FFXI, CoH etc are all rated higher then WoW. If you bring in something to support your arguement, THEN MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY SUPPORTS your arguement.
    At Gamespot, EVE gets a 9.0 while WoW gets a 9.2

    At IGN, EVE gets a 8.9 while WoW gets a 9.1

    At Gamerankings.com EVE gets an average 90% while WoW gets an average 92%.

    While WoW is always just a tad higher than EVE, there's one thing to keep in mind.

    At Gamerankings EVE's average is based on 8 Media Outlets.
    WoW's average is based on 69 Media Outlets.

    On Gamespot, EVE's ranking is out of 671 votes, while WoW's ranking is out of 31,596 votes.

    It's a little tough to even compare the number of 'fanbois' that vote for WoW to the ones that vote for EVE.

    I think it's a good thing that EVE is ranked first on one of the only websites that is visited by MMORPGers as opposed to fanbois of particular games.

    The reason that mmorpg.com has EVE higher than WoW is because it's one of the only sites where the game is a common name.  On most sites people are like "'EVE'? what the hell is that?"

    To say that the only reason that EVE is number one is because of 'fanbois' here is just like me saying that WoW is number one because of 'fanbois' on every other site considering the numbers of people that vote for the two games.




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  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    Ok correct me if I’m wrong but the categories are supposed to stand on their own merit.

     

    For instance Graphics should go the game with the best graphics regardless of how much the game play sucks. It defiantly should not go to a game with mediocre graphics simply because enough of the fan base came and voted for it.  That’s the problem with poles like this, I loved Donkey Kong and if there was a DKMMO we could mobilize the DK community and get that lovable 2d sprite voted fav graphics. Heck I am surprised that my son has not mobilized his runequest buddies to come get it voted Fav Graphics, or wait maybe that’s because they are to busy playing to come post. image

     

    I voted and other than fav PVE nether WOW or EVE make my top 10 list in any of the categories.  Actually since the pole is fav PVP not BlobVrsP  I don’t see how anyone even considered EVE for that category.

     

    Yes both are fun to play, actually I typically play WOW while I am playing EVE (both in windowed mode) but as far as the categories, there are lots of MMOs out there that better fit the individual categories.

     

     My fav game of all time, the old Genesis vers of ShadowRUN, fav MMO is Shattered galaxy, what the heck since everyone else voted not for the best but for their faves here’s mine:

     

    Fav Graphics: GW, just because of the Detail.

    Fav PVE: WOW, again look at the details, Example there are 10 tiger families on the two continents and every one of them has a different skin, that’s detail.

    Fav PVP:  Tribes, yes its dead, I played it for 5 years and in the time since I have yet to see anything that come close. Yes I play on WOWs battle grounds daily and I have fought in battles in EVE since 03. Heck the very first ship I lost was when I was chasing Tank and a fellow MOO, after a 3 system chase I had managed to get to a gate before them and had him locked down 3 more MOO jumped in to reinforce them but 8 more of us hunters also jumped in. That was a true firefight and I actually went through 2 cruisers and ended up chasing the surviving MOO in a punisher broadcasting their locations and movements.  Since BETA it was probably the best fight I have had in EVE  but it does not hold a candle to the PVP in other games I have played.

    Fav Story: Actually MMOs do have stories, just not good ones but as far as that goes: Shattered Galaxy had the best.

    Most Anticipated: I left this one blank because I have yet to see a MMORPG/MMO being released or even in development I am looking forward too. I had hopes for Shadowrun but they are not even close.  If you want me to look forward to a game then make one that’s a combination of  ShadoRUN, Battletech,Freelancer.

    Fav New Game of 2006:  Were there MMO/MMORPG games released in 2006, I did not seem to notice any. image Now as far as just games, have you guys played new battlefield? image

  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353
    FYI tribes is not an Massively Multiplayer Online Game, it's just a Multiplayer game.


  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    Did you ever play Tribes on a 64 or 128 server?

    How many people play in the WOW BG?    16

    How many people are in the average EVE fight.  6-10 vrs 1   (Ok I was in a 60+ fleet battle and was lagged until the time my pod hit the gate, you can not have more than a 20+20 figt in EVE and it still be playable to all)

     

    I have been in larger functional BF2 fights than I have ever been in EVE, heck I have been larger CS matches than any WOW battleground.  So before you purests start crying that these games are not Massive keep in mind that when your talking battles they are actually between small groups.  Actually the Biggest fight I have been in was in RF online. That battle felt like (and reminded me) the Starwars movie battle. When you see 200+ people charging down a hill beside you and you look across and see 200+ come ver a hill to your right and 200+ charging at you from your left then you understand (and relize that leading the charge was probly not a good idea). Its just too bad that the rest of the RF gameplay sucked, the battles were great.   

     

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    For what it is worth, here is my opinion.

    Favorite Graphics:  DDO
    Favorite PvE: CoV
    Favorite PvP: AA
    Favorite Story: CoV
    Most Anticipated: BioWare's MMO of course, how could that even be a question? image
    Favorite New Game: AA, kinda sad year in term of new release IMO.
    Favorite Game: CoV

    Go BioWare's Go! image

     

    I shall start stalking the infidels and the heretics!  Those of little faith!  image

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  • IbacaiIbacai Member Posts: 71
    Fav Graphics : DDO

    Fav PvE : WoW

    Fav PvP : Dark Age of Camelot

    Fav Story : DDO

    Most Anticipated : Lord of the Rings Online

    Best New Game : DDO

    Favorite Game : WoW



  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353



    Originally posted by LeJohn

    Did you ever play Tribes on a 64 or 128 server?
    How many people play in the WOW BG?    16
    How many people are in the average EVE fight.  6-10 vrs 1   (Ok I was in a 60+ fleet battle and was lagged until the time my pod hit the gate, you can not have more than a 20+20 figt in EVE and it still be playable to all)
     
    I have been in larger functional BF2 fights than I have ever been in EVE, heck I have been larger CS matches than any WOW battleground.  So before you purests start crying that these games are not Massive keep in mind that when your talking battles they are actually between small groups.  Actually the Biggest fight I have been in was in RF online. That battle felt like (and reminded me) the Starwars movie battle. When you see 200+ people charging down a hill beside you and you look across and see 200+ come ver a hill to your right and 200+ charging at you from your left then you understand (and relize that leading the charge was probly not a good idea). Its just too bad that the rest of the RF gameplay sucked, the battles were great.   
     



    Yes I did, Tribes is one of my favourite games of all time, but it's still not a MMO. An MMO has to have persistance to be considered one.
  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    [quote]An MMO has to have persistence to be considered one[/quote]

    Could you please explain this to me, seriously I have yet to have anyone actually outline what is required to call yourself an MMO. When I first started playing original Guildwars i posted somewhere that GW was one of the best MMOs to come out that year.  I was instantly flamed and told "Guild Wars is NOT an MMO" When I asked the Flamer what was required to qualify as a MMO he used AO as an example but added that you must act out your Avatar.  I asked "Wait, is that not a MMORPG? and if I talk in the half Scottish half Irish accent my Ranger speaks in am I not role playing, because from the neighbors comments the seem to think I am" image

    You say it has to have persistence, does that mean that a MMORPG/MMO that sucks and dyes in a year was not a MMORPG/MMO?

    If you base a MMO on number of players then CS, BF2 and COD beats most MMOs on number of player’s especially if you only count the PVP instances.

    So what are the criteria to be an MMO? EVE may have 16k players logged on but you will be hard pressed to find more than 20 people in any system and yes each system is an instance.(Except in Jita of course and those people are masacest, masicest, mass..  They love pain, they worship the god of lag and he sprinkles them with love over and over)image

  • tkobotkobo Member Posts: 465

    This "peoples choice" stuff is dishonest.

    I choose NONE OF THE ABOVE for almost every catagory.So where is my ability to make that vote and have it counted ?

    Now i know your whole business is to over hype MMOs,but at least try to appear honest.

    Til there is a vote choice equal to "none of the above",your just putting out more dishonest hype.

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