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General: 2006 Reader's Choice Awards: Nominations

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  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353

    That's right, the gameplay hasn't changed at all, they've added a few instances added, a crappy PVP system and that's about it. They've made no real improvements to the gameplay in 2 years. The BC xpac is not really adding anything either, their just moving the carrot out a bit for people, there's still no guild housing or guild bank. crafting still sucks.

    A game doesn't need 7 milion subscribers to be a success, CCP doesn't care about having the same subs as WoW. Frankly I doubt any other MMO ever will, including whatever Blizz makes after WoW. With that many subscribers it's just far too difficult to provide decent support to everyone. CCP counts many devs amongst it's customers and is well respected in the developement community. Hell they get applications from devs from other MMO's all the time.

    As for the poster who said Revelations should be listed in the nominees. The category is for NEW mmo's coming out, not expansions, so Revelations does not belong in that category.

  • ssstupidossstupido Member Posts: 253



    Originally posted by Gameloading

    I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.



    ok, i am sick and tired of people saying how this site is so off from reality and how EVE is not highly valued outside MMORPG. to begin with, i will say that the information i will give is non important for me. i value much more the ratings here than anywhere else, but seeing as some poster (specially gameloading) have trouble accepting ratings here...

    from gamespot ------- EVE Online: Second Genesis here

    review - 6.6, done on May 6, 2003

    player review - 8.3 (OMG!!!! 8.3 its the same than somewhere i know...)

    other publications review average - 7.4 -  25 reviews most of them from june-july 2003

    some gems from the original review "The lack of clear-cut incentives, risks, and rewards leaves the world of EVE seeming empty", "There's a text-based tutorial that kicks off when you first begin playing", "Mining is the only viable way to make money early on in EVE, and it's really one of the only viable ways of making money in the game at all", "The game has some interesting features that aren't fully fleshed out yet, such as its player-driven economy"

    as you can see, either those sentences are lies, or are completely outdated

    from gamespot ------ EVE Online: Exodus here

    no review from gamespot

    player review - 9.1  oh noes, the conspiration is here!!!!

    other publications review average - 8.9 -  7 reviews most of them from march 2005 (hey, but 8.3 on MMORPG is way too high!!!!, how can it be other sites give it a 8.9????)

    and of course, after exodus, there has been another big expansion called Red Moon Rising, and on December will begin the next expansion, called Kali.

    now, please, whenever you feel like bashing EVE, just say you dont like it, but dont make yourself look like an idiot saying that only MMORPG.com rates EVE so high

  • thevinmanthevinman Member Posts: 15
    As a protest against EVE's crappy management and beer guzzling devs, I did NOT vote for them at all.  Too many lies and wrong decisions.  :P


  • mrotsmrots Member Posts: 106

    Graphics - EQ2.

    PVE - EQ2

    PVP - WoW

    Story - EQ2

    Most anticipated - Warhammer Online ( really looking forward to this ) image

    Fave new game of 06 - DDO

    Fave Game - EQ2


     

     

  • apertotesapertotes Member Posts: 363



    Originally posted by Gameloading

    ...wow is the best, wow is the only one, wow is awesome...



    well, WoW is the FIFA of mmorpgs. you know, lots of marketing, lots of sales, lots of reviews, lots of hyping, lots of fanbois... AND MEDIOCRE GAME.
  • Morning9876Morning9876 Member Posts: 1

    Originally posted by mjsisson
    I'm disappointed that you haven't included EVE's new 'revelations' (codenamed 'kali') expansion in the 'Most Anticipated' section of the vote.

    CCP have chose to bring in the expansion in 3-parts. The first while the vote is happening, the last well into the new year. Are they being punished by the choice of this policy?



    A good category for next year might be best expansion/update, rather than calling them new games, as your "Most anticipated" seems to be.

    And maybe best customer support, game patches, etc. That could be quite interesting as well.


  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by ssstupido



    Originally posted by Gameloading

    I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.


    ok, i am sick and tired of people saying how this site is so off from reality and how EVE is not highly valued outside MMORPG. to begin with, i will say that the information i will give is non important for me. i value much more the ratings here than anywhere else, but seeing as some poster (specially gameloading) have trouble accepting ratings here...

    from gamespot ------- EVE Online: Second Genesis here

    review - 6.6, done on May 6, 2003

    player review - 8.3 (OMG!!!! 8.3 its the same than somewhere i know...)

    other publications review average - 7.4 -  25 reviews most of them from june-july 2003

    some gems from the original review "The lack of clear-cut incentives, risks, and rewards leaves the world of EVE seeming empty", "There's a text-based tutorial that kicks off when you first begin playing", "Mining is the only viable way to make money early on in EVE, and it's really one of the only viable ways of making money in the game at all", "The game has some interesting features that aren't fully fleshed out yet, such as its player-driven economy"

    as you can see, either those sentences are lies, or are completely outdated

    from gamespot ------ EVE Online: Exodus here

    no review from gamespot

    player review - 9.1  oh noes, the conspiration is here!!!!

    other publications review average - 8.9 -  7 reviews most of them from march 2005 (hey, but 8.3 on MMORPG is way too high!!!!, how can it be other sites give it a 8.9????)

    and of course, after exodus, there has been another big expansion called Red Moon Rising, and on December will begin the next expansion, called Kali.

    now, please, whenever you feel like bashing EVE, just say you dont like it, but dont make yourself look like an idiot saying that only MMORPG.com rates EVE so high



    Name me Three website's,Three, (although I'll be impressed if you can find 1), where EVE is rated number 1, above WoW, and while your at it, also try to find a website where EQ2, FFXI, CoH etc are all rated higher then WoW. If you bring in something to support your arguement, THEN MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY SUPPORTS your arguement.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by apertotes



    Originally posted by Gameloading

    ...wow is the best, wow is the only one, wow is awesome...



    well, WoW is the FIFA of mmorpgs. you know, lots of marketing, lots of sales, lots of reviews, lots of hyping, lots of fanbois... AND MEDIOCRE GAME.



    Nothing but your opinions. reviews, Playerbase and player reviews all go against that.
  • ZubaZuba Member Posts: 141
    graphics: ryzom

    pve: n/a

    pvp: n/a

    antisipated: sg-1 worlds

    best of 2006: n/a

    most value: n/a

    overall best: eve online

    i didnt vote on most of them because to be honest. pve the only thing i think of is runescape but that doesnt even come close.

    pvp, i dint vote because the last time i pvped was 4 years back on a game called freelancer.

    best of 2006, i never even heard of these titles.

    most value, ehm there all money grabbers so no dice.



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  • AntiocheAntioche Member UncommonPosts: 132
    I didn't get to vote for Age of Conan enough. lol

    only decent game in 2006 was Auto Assault imo,
    Eve is still probably the best all around mmo,
    DAoC has the best PvP/RvR,
    WoW has the best PvE even though it's just a mmo of Diablo 2,
    Eve has the best graphics, but then things are a bit easier for them in some ways,
    Age of Conan is easily the most anticipated game that will actually release in 2007.

    This was amusing, good to see all of the votes, I can't wait to see the results. :)
    Happy Thanksgiving to those that celebrate it.



    It is pathos we lack, and this lack of pathos makes the worlds we explore quite stale.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Antioche

  • GunnyFisherGunnyFisher Member Posts: 65
    Worst game catagory goes to..... SWG......


    Have faith in God, believe in antimatter.

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  • ssstupidossstupido Member Posts: 253



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by ssstupido



    Originally posted by Gameloading

    I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.


    ok, i am sick and tired of people saying how this site is so off from reality and how EVE is not highly valued outside MMORPG. to begin with, i will say that the information i will give is non important for me. i value much more the ratings here than anywhere else, but seeing as some poster (specially gameloading) have trouble accepting ratings here...

    from gamespot ------- EVE Online: Second Genesis here

    review - 6.6, done on May 6, 2003

    player review - 8.3 (OMG!!!! 8.3 its the same than somewhere i know...)

    other publications review average - 7.4 -  25 reviews most of them from june-july 2003

    some gems from the original review "The lack of clear-cut incentives, risks, and rewards leaves the world of EVE seeming empty", "There's a text-based tutorial that kicks off when you first begin playing", "Mining is the only viable way to make money early on in EVE, and it's really one of the only viable ways of making money in the game at all", "The game has some interesting features that aren't fully fleshed out yet, such as its player-driven economy"

    as you can see, either those sentences are lies, or are completely outdated

    from gamespot ------ EVE Online: Exodus here

    no review from gamespot

    player review - 9.1  oh noes, the conspiration is here!!!!

    other publications review average - 8.9 -  7 reviews most of them from march 2005 (hey, but 8.3 on MMORPG is way too high!!!!, how can it be other sites give it a 8.9????)

    and of course, after exodus, there has been another big expansion called Red Moon Rising, and on December will begin the next expansion, called Kali.

    now, please, whenever you feel like bashing EVE, just say you dont like it, but dont make yourself look like an idiot saying that only MMORPG.com rates EVE so high



    Name me Three website's,Three, (although I'll be impressed if you can find 1), where EVE is rated number 1, above WoW, and while your at it, also try to find a website where EQ2, FFXI, CoH etc are all rated higher then WoW. If you bring in something to support your arguement, THEN MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY SUPPORTS your arguement.

    look, i'm not gonna bother doing all that. you can do it if you wish. i just wanted everybody to see that when you and some others where crying that this site is a EVE fanboy nest, and that EVE Re-Review was unfair and that 8.4 was such an undeserved rating, and that MMORPG.com was the only site where EVE was rated so high, all of you were lying, patently and pathetically lying.

    Actually, EVE is rated higher than on MMORPG.com almost everywhere, with an average rating of 9.0 already, or so says gamespot, that takes into account the most important internet publications.

    so, 9.0 everywhere, but 8.3 here. I guess this site isn't as biased as you and many others want to make it look.

    on the other hand, WoW still has almost 3000 more reviews than EVE on this site. but i bet you will say that all those are EVE fanbois pushing it down. but, at the same time, WoW forums on this site got 5 times as many posts and topics as EVE forums. you probably will say again that those topics are made by EVE fanboys spamming and trolling the WoW forums.

    as we say in my country "No hay mas ciego que el que no quiere ver", or "nobody is more blind than he who doesnt want to see"

  • piquetpiquet Member UncommonPosts: 189



    Originally posted by robino

    I have played EVE for 2 years and it is boring the hell out of me - PvP is boring and lame.



    You played it for 2 years even though you found it boring and lame?!
  • The-RavenThe-Raven Member Posts: 234



    Originally posted by Harafnir
    2006 was a dead year in MMO history. Most depressing list of newcomers I have ever seen.


    QFT


    Without question.

  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527


    Originally posted by ssstupido
    look, i'm not gonna bother doing all that. you can do it if you wish. i just wanted everybody to see that when you and some others where crying that this site is a EVE fanboy nest, and that EVE Re-Review was unfair and that 8.4 was such an undeserved rating, and that MMORPG.com was the only site where EVE was rated so high, all of you were lying, patently and pathetically lying.
    Actually, EVE is rated higher than on MMORPG.com almost everywhere, with an average rating of 9.0 already, or so says gamespot, that takes into account the most important internet publications.
    so, 9.0 everywhere, but 8.3 here. I guess this site isn't as biased as you and many others want to make it look.
    on the other hand, WoW still has almost 3000 more reviews than EVE on this site. but i bet you will say that all those are EVE fanbois pushing it down. but, at the same time, WoW forums on this site got 5 times as many posts and topics as EVE forums. you probably will say again that those topics are made by EVE fanboys spamming and trolling the WoW forums.
    as we say in my country "No hay mas ciego que el que no quiere ver", or "nobody is more blind than he who doesnt want to see"

    You fail to mention Gamespot's ratings for WoW/CoX/GW/EQ2. You have to take into account the rating curve. Obviously not all websites use the same rating system, even if it's based off of the standard 10-point ratings.

    I also laugh every time an EVE fanboy makes account #8589393 with names like "jfhshfkg" to artificially boost the ratings of "their" game. Don't even pretend the player-made ratings are anything close to fair. WoW players may be stupid and immature about certain things, but even they know better than to start crap like this.

  • RuvenRuven Member Posts: 9
    don't be too quick to start stereotyping gaming communities with "oh, people who play this game won't do this kind of thing" and "people who play that game are losers and you can see it in their actions". this is because, as far as it is, this statement has no evidence, nor a credible explanation to it.

    furthermore, if 7.5 million player game gets beat by a 150k player game, so be it. don't whine and start pointing fingers. just because you have 7.5 million players it doesn't mean you have the right to every award you qualify for. in an analogy, it seems just a spoilt child crying and yelling for candy.



  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353

    Originally posted by Aethios
    Originally posted by ssstupido
    look,
    i'm not gonna bother doing all that. you can do it if you wish. i just
    wanted everybody to see that when you and some others where crying that
    this site is a EVE fanboy nest, and that EVE Re-Review was unfair and
    that 8.4 was such an undeserved rating, and that MMORPG.com was the
    only site where EVE was rated so high, all of you were lying, patently
    and pathetically lying.
    Actually, EVE is rated higher than on
    MMORPG.com almost everywhere, with an average rating of 9.0 already, or
    so says gamespot, that takes into account the most important internet
    publications.
    so, 9.0 everywhere, but 8.3 here. I guess this site isn't as biased as you and many others want to make it look.
    on
    the other hand, WoW still has almost 3000 more reviews than EVE on this
    site. but i bet you will say that all those are EVE fanbois
    pushing it down. but, at the same time, WoW forums on this site got 5
    times as many posts and topics as EVE forums. you probably will say
    again that those topics are made by EVE fanboys spamming and trolling
    the WoW forums.
    as we say in my country "No hay mas ciego que el que no quiere ver", or "nobody is more blind than he who doesnt want to see"

    You
    fail to mention Gamespot's ratings for WoW/CoX/GW/EQ2. You have to take
    into account the rating curve. Obviously not all websites use the same
    rating system, even if it's based off of the standard 10-point ratings.

    I
    also laugh every time an EVE fanboy makes account #8589393 with names
    like "jfhshfkg" to artificially boost the ratings of "their" game.
    Don't even pretend the player-made ratings are anything close to fair.
    WoW players may be stupid and immature about certain things, but even
    they know better than to start crap like this.


    Hey
    moron, can I call you that? Ok good. As has been stated by MMORPG.com
    staff, those garbage name accounts have been created to get L2 trials.
    Also, if EVE players were creating these accounts to boost the rating
    of the game it would have 10's of thousands of ratings by now, yet it
    still has about 2000 less ratings than WoW.



    But by all means, go ahead and continue to make yourself look like an idiot.


  • XenigmaXenigma Member Posts: 1
    My votes (which admittedly may be a bit biased):

    Graphics: EVE wins, no question.  No matter how many times I see the game, the graphics always look amazing.  WoW is also pretty good for graphics, but nowhere near good enough.

    PvE: Anarchy Online.  Ignoring the Heckler camps of Shadowlands, I've always enjoyed going out and hunting in AO above anything else.  It's just so stupidly fun.  It seems like there is a fair amount of support for EQ2 in this category, but I've never played it, so I'm certainly not voting for it.

    PvP: Guild Wars.  EVE is also quite good in this regard, but Guild Wars was designed for this purpose, and it shows.  Whether you are just playing a premade character or playing one of the large assortment of specialized builds, it's a fun, enjoyable experience.

    Story: Anarchy Online.  Most people probably don't have a clue about the story behind this game, but it's there, and it's really, really neat.  I enjoy trying to piece together all the different events, as well as the overall experience of the game that is full of flavor.  Of course, it is very easy to ignore, but I'm still voting for it.

    Most Anticipated: POTC Online.  I honestly didn't know what to choose for this category, so I decided to go for the game that sounded like it could make the most interesting product.  Pirates are awesome, and POTC Online might just be able to bring them into MMO spotlight.  Hopefully it works out well.

    2006 Game: Guild Wars Factions/Nightfall.  Sure, they may be "expansion packs", but they are still better then the rest of the competition.  If it weren't for this, I probably would have said Auto Assault, because despite it getting old really fast, it is still fun for that first bit.

    Best Overall: Anarchy Online.  I was either going to go for this or EVE, and in the end AO is just a tad better.  No MMO has ever drawn me in quite as much as AO has.  No matter how many times I restart, the game still is fun, with plenty of new places to explore, and lots of stuff to do.  With the free "classic" account offer, you have absolutely no excuse not to at least try this game.  It's completely worth it.



  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481
    While nothing released in 06 was spectacular here are my votes.

    Graphics - Still have to go with EQII. Was in the buissness for 5 yrs & Outer space graphics way to easy to make.

    PVE - EQ2  (second choice COH)

    PVP - Lineasge II:  Not  big on PVP but I enjoy L2's fast paced action. (Second choice WOW)

    Story - Matrix Online: (Don't laugh most MMORG's don't have a storyline  (2nd choice Guild Wars factions)

    Most anticipated - Vanguard:

    Fave new game of 06 - None

    Fave Game - COH & EQII the only ones I keep going back to might add L2 to the fold though.

    Zarraa Voltayre
    Ancient Legacy/Zero Sum/Silver Phoenix/Damage Inc.

    EQI EQII DAOC AC2 COH COV GW WOW MoX EVE L2



    Dutchess Zarraa Voltayre
    Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.

  • FaekuriasFaekurias Member Posts: 1
    • Favorite Graphics: Won last year by EVE Online, this category is open to all games currently on the market in commercial service.
    • I have to Go with eve on this one, it rox0rz my box0rz.
    • Favorite PvE:
      World of Warcraft was selected by our readers last year as their
      Favorite PvE Experience. Do they have what it takes to retain the
      crown? This category, again, is open to all games in commercial service.
    • Hard one, played WoW for a year while playing eve aswell. But wow was so boring in almost everyway that I have a hard time really  even comparing EvE or Sro And Wow, have to go with SRO here I think.

    • Favorite PvP:
      EVE Online was your favorite PvP experience last year. Did a year
      change anything? This category is open to all games in commercial
      service.
    • EvE , easily, no competition.

    • Favorite Story:
      The Saga of Ryzom pulled off an upset victory last year. Now, with the
      Ryzom Ring can they retain their crown as the favorite
      world/role-playing/backstory of any released MMORPG on our list?
            --- Wait, what? They have story? What the heck? :P
    • Most Anticipated:
      Open to all games that have yet to launch, last year's winner Dungeons
      and Dragons Online has hit the market. Who will take home the crown
      this year?
    • Don't know really.
    • Favorite New Game:
      This category is from a list of games that launched to commercial
      service in 2006 and is the only new category in this year's awards.
    • Not a clue.

    • Favorite Game: Finally, from among those games on the market, what is your favorite MMORPG? Last year, the voters said EVE.
    • Guess? EvE :)

  • darkfish0darkfish0 Member Posts: 65
    If other expansion packs get listed in most anticipated/best 2006, can we get EVE:Revelations :P


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  • GardarGardar Member Posts: 50
    I belive Eve will take this year for the best MMORPG, and best pvp.

    Gar

  • ravex5ravex5 Member UncommonPosts: 64

    These awards are pointless. They dont show anything except the fact that EVE fanbois have once again flooded the system. CCP told all the EVE fans to come vote and so they are. If Blizzard did the same thing I guarantee WoW would win by sheer numbers. These awards show nothing except how many EVE fanatics this site attracts.

  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353



    Originally posted by ravex5

    These awards are pointless. They dont show anything except the fact that EVE fanbois have once again flooded the system. CCP told all the EVE fans to come vote and so they are. If Blizzard did the same thing I guarantee WoW would win by sheer numbers. These awards show nothing except how many EVE fanatics this site attracts.



    EVE devs never said WHAT to vote for, just to come vote.
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