Originally posted by EricDanie It's stand alone as in, owning only one Chapter will only have actual access to contents of it. It's stand alone as in, if you want to start playing GW, won't have to spend $150 for the 3 games at once, buy one, if you like it, buy the rest. It's stand alone as in, these "expansions" have enough content for a whole new game. If it would be an expansion, GW would have the most complete expansions ever seen. It's stand alone as in, if I were playing Magic the Gathering against someone, would I think it's unfair if that player has different cards than me, yet if the cards are very balanced? That's how the skills in GW work. You and all people who think the same as you don't understand because you haven't even played GW, simply don't like it or didn't spend enough time in the game to taste the true competitivity and gameplay it offers. I may the like the game you do like and I'm not bashing it here, am I? And as GW has 2 stand alone Chapters released every year, I'm really happy that MMORPG.com understands the fact that they ARE stand alone, making it a single game on Ranking would be highly inacurrate and not putting GW for choice as best of the year would be unfair to the GW community.
It doesn't have enough content to be one game. I have played GW and I have had it over a year now. There is not enough content for a single player game in it nor is there even remotely close for a MMORPG. GW is mainly an arena styled PvP game and it excells at that. That is why I voted for them as the PvP winner. No other game has had PvP that balanced before.
But that doesn't mean that they aren't all the same game, because any game that shares the same server is essentially the same game. Your analogy of Magic the Gathering only strengthens my point. Magic is a stand alone game. Players may have different cards, but all the card from both of their hands belong to the same game, not seperate stand alone games. So that analogy actually works better for me than for you.
Guild Wars as stated by their Devs themselves is a CORPG, not an MMORPG. The Guild Wars devs stated that themselves over a year ago when this argument first came about. But this isn't even about that, but keep that in mind when you read the next paragraph.
If MMORPG.COM were to place every GW expansion as a stand alone game, with the current rate of GW game releases and the fact that they are free, which is a significant reason why GW is ranked high to begin with; MMORPG.COM might as well rename this website to GuildWarsgames.com. I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that this is fair for the rating system. You are either a blind fanboi that just wants to see their game pasted all over the website or you are truly a dumb S.O.B...or you could just be a young ignorant kid, which more than likely you are since you play Guild Wars. Anyone who can put up with that much immaturity in a game must be one of them.
5. Really hard to say and it sucks that I could only choose one. But I chose Star Trek Online because I've always loved Star trek and badly want to play it.
6. Only DDO interested me at all and that was a disappointment.
Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote. Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
Originally posted by Mcgreag Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote. Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say. Yep, you want to even up the odds get working on your own game's community.
Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
Lol Grabbing at straws again i see Just becausse more people like EvE in this site than any other game.
Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote. Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
Because I personally think this should be voted by mmorpg.com visitors, voted by people who visit mmorpg.com more then just once, and not just by EVE players who aren't intrested in mmorpg.com.
Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote. Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
Because I personally think this should be voted by mmorpg.com visitors, voted by people who visit mmorpg.com more then just once, and not just by EVE players who aren't intrested in mmorpg.com.
What you personally think is irrelevant. This is a public site, open to all whether they visit once a day, once a month or once a year. As long as they are MMO players their votes are valid. If you want to support your game then go to the games community and tell them to come vote. Everyone has the opportunity to do so.
Originally posted by DrAtomic Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL... Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems... http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote. Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say. Because I personally think this should be voted by mmorpg.com visitors, voted by people who visit mmorpg.com more then just once, and not just by EVE players who aren't intrested in mmorpg.com.
What you personally think is irrelevant. This is a public site, open to all whether they visit once a day, once a month or once a year. As long as they are MMO players their votes are valid. If you want to support your game then go to the games community and tell them to come vote. Everyone has the opportunity to do so.
It doesn't matter if its irrelevant or not, I was merely giving my opinion on the subject.I won't go to worldofwarcraft.com and ask every WoW fan to vote for WoW, Because I think mmorpg.com's awards should be given by mmorpg.com fans. the awards are basicly given away by EVE players.
PvP: Lineage2.. only cause I couldn't test Ryzom one before though L2's pvp is broken due to the MASS Cheating Industry over there: legit pvp doesn't exist.
Story: Ryzom - So far so good.
Most Anticipated: Age of Conan - I saw the combat system, looks promising!
New Game: None
Favorite Game: Ryzom -
Ryzom is my best experience so far: I simply don't understand how I've missed this one for sooo long, well first year there was no pvp, so that must be it.. but after that.. dunno, bad promotion, bad critics..
To "Thedev.." who was saying that until he sees a phantasy game that offers him the same abilities than EVE's Sci-fi: give Ryzom a try.
You can : - Built your own unique toon: the same character creation than EVE - except that it's extented to the body (not only a customizable face) and that you will play/see your custom toon (unlike EVE) - Built your own unique skills : every skills are made of "elemental functionnalities" (stanza) that you can change/ modify as you wish.. it's simply a genius. - You level your skills by.. using them: like irl, the more you heal, the better healer you become, the more you craft, the better.. etc. - You have no "class": you can level whatever of the 4 main professions you want: some try to level all .. some focus one one branch only.. but as the other part of the game, you are free to chose your path at any given time.
- Mobs.. well can you speak of "mobs" when you have Herbivore that migrate depending of the day/night or the seasons, when you have carnivores that follow these herivores and hunt them down to feed upon - and eventually that feed upon you? Hehe, I'd rather speak of the Ryzom fauna and flora: their behaviour is amazing and you don't want to hunt them alone.
- The craft system is a pure genious: you mentionned that in EVE, the system makes it so that it rewards the most "intelligent".. the same is true here. Craft is based on a "general" blueprint that tells you the type of element you need: it's up to you to find the best combination of elements to find the most appropriate equip. The more combination you litterally try.. the better knowledge (irl, not in-game stat) you'll have -ie: a Craft Master is trully a master of his art, ppl actually keep their recipe "formula" to themselves, sharing it only with their friends.
- The Interface is very but very similar to what EVE show: you can set-up everything, from the font size to the density, from the mob's color code to the chat color code, lol. Just like eve, it's like "Russian puppets" : the more you "right click for info" in a window.. the more detailed info you'll get.
- PvP: you got here Neutral system (to avoid pvp everywhere except in the "full pvp" area), Guild vs Guild, Faction vs Faction, Open pvp. Outposts exists which are very similar in function and reward than the L2's castle siege (except you got more of them and they are daily siegable).
- You got a great community: very helpfull - Awsome and remarkable GMs (CSR) who actually play the game, answer your questions (ingame) and enforce the game's rules. The shock with the absolute inexistence of them in L2 was terrible. The community by far looks like the one you find in EVE: simply great.
- Just like EVE, among the MMORPG, it has a strong graphical identity.. mobs and environments looks like nowhere else: a mix of phantasy and reality.
In a word, I've tried the game after OB -> C5 of Lineage2, tested wow quickly (I hate instance, I hate forced localized servers), played and enjoyed EVE (I stopped due to irl) and when I tried Ryzom's free trial (unlimited in time)... I bought a 3 month subscription 2 hours after!
The game is simply great and has a lot.. a lot to offer.
It doesn't matter if its irrelevant or not, I was merely giving my opinion on the subject.
I won't go to worldofwarcraft.com and ask every WoW fan to vote for WoW, Because I think mmorpg.com's awards should be given by mmorpg.com fans. the awards are basicly given away by EVE players.
Why wouldn't you go to worldofwarcraft.com? There votes and opinions are just as valid as those coming from the EVE community, or the EQ2 community or the SWG:NGE community (all 5 of them). There are no MMORPG.com fans, only MMO fans who come here seeking information and the opinions of other MMO players.
A lot of MMO vets frequent this site, many of them are sick of WoW style gameplay and all that it brings. Many of them are UO vets and some have tried the game and while it wasn't for them, still thought it was a good game. That's why EVE's rating is what it is, not because an army of EVE players is constantly padding the scores. If that was the case EVE would likely have double the amount of ratings than WoW does, while in reality it has less.
The EVE community is the way it is for a reason, we're all in the same world together. It makes for a strong community, which is the core of ANY MMO.
Why I won't go to Worldofwarcraft.com? Because I don't think that the WoW fans will vote unbiased. I think they will nominate WoW in every section, even when WoW does not deserve it, with the only goal in mind to bring WoW Awards because that is the favorite game, and I think this is the exact same thing with EVE.
I think the awards should go to the games based on quality, and not which game can attract the most biased fanbois, like the ratings are now.
Originally posted by Gameloading Why I won't go to Worldofwarcraft.com? Because I don't think that the WoW fans will vote unbiased. I think they will nominate WoW in every section, even when WoW does not deserve it, with the only goal in mind to bring WoW Awards because that is the favorite game, and I think this is the exact same thing with EVE.
I think the awards should go to the games based on quality, and not which game can attract the most biased fanbois, like the ratings are now.
What part of "Readers Choice" do you not get. Of course voters are going to be biased, they are voting for the games that THEY think are the best. If more people vote for WoW in those categories, then they have made thier choice. Whether we agree with thier choices is irrelevent. As for WoW fans voting unbiased, I think you would be surprised just how many of them would vote against WoW as I know a large number of players that are only playing WoW still while they wait for something better to come out.
Originally posted by Gameloading Why I won't go to Worldofwarcraft.com? Because I don't think that the WoW fans will vote unbiased. I think they will nominate WoW in every section, even when WoW does not deserve it, with the only goal in mind to bring WoW Awards because that is the favorite game, and I think this is the exact same thing with EVE.
I think the awards should go to the games based on quality, and not which game can attract the most biased fanbois, like the ratings are now.
What part of "Readers Choice" do you not get. Of course voters are going to be biased, they are voting for the games that THEY think are the best. If more people vote for WoW in those categories, then they have made thier choice. Whether we agree with thier choices is irrelevent. As for WoW fans voting unbiased, I think you would be surprised just how many of them would vote against WoW as I know a large number of players that are only playing WoW still while they wait for something better to come out.
What I mean to say is that I strongly believe that someone who comes here on a regular basis will be more subjective and unbiased on voting then someone who's only goal is to give its game as most awards as possible, Even when they know other games do better at certain points.
Also keep in mind that EVE is now the only community informed of the awards.
These are mmorpg.com's awards, leave it to the mmorpg.com community to give them away. thats my oppinion.
We obviously disagree, so lets just give it a rest.
Originally posted by Cerion I am still disappointed that Guild Wars receives cosideration for its 'expansion' packs. I know you have some arbitrary definition in place, but I think your definition needs to be refined. With their expansions taking up the ranking, and now infiltrating the yearly readers choice awards, your ranking systems are loosing credibility in my book.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
Originally posted by Cerion I am still disappointed that Guild Wars receives cosideration for its 'expansion' packs. I know you have some arbitrary definition in place, but I think your definition needs to be refined. With their expansions taking up the ranking, and now infiltrating the yearly readers choice awards, your ranking systems are loosing credibility in my book.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
Originally posted by MMO_Man Is CCP going to send all the Eve players over here to vote again like they did last year? "please go to MMORPG.com and vote for Eve".
...All those WoW-players who whined about them not winning because Eve guys rushed over... They should seriously consider why a 7.5million mmorpg has less voters than a 150k one.
Draw your conclusions yourself
I conclude that EVE will most likely be awarded Best Game, PvP, Graphics for two reasons.
a.) EVE harbours an extraordinary amount of forum whores who, if they are not already frequenting this site, will read CCP's "plz vote for us, plz" post and flock here to vote like ducks to a loaf of bread. When you create a game where people can surf the net while their skills train...this is what happens.
b.) I grew increasingly weary of the game and cancelled my 30+m sp PvP spec character a while ago, but nevertheless EVE actually does blow the vast majority of MMO's out of the water. This doesn't actually mean EVE is a great MMO...just that there is an awful lot of pure unadulterated crap in the MMO world. Anyhow, there are only a handful of MMO's that are in the same league as EVE currently, and these games do not fulfil the criteria stated in point a.
Moving on, the mainstream opinion of what is "good" is often ridiculously and horribly borked...and to be honest most people just use awards as a personal e-peen extension, to bolster blind faith in something, rather than using their brain and forming an objective opinion. To be blunt, you have to be a complete fool to take awards too seriously...remember we live in an era where Jessica Simpson wins people's choice awards.
That being said, I voted for Darkfall as most anticipated game because I am very eager to try it out and they are taking *fecking ages* making it.
Originally posted by Cerion I am still disappointed that Guild Wars receives cosideration for its 'expansion' packs. I know you have some arbitrary definition in place, but I think your definition needs to be refined. With their expansions taking up the ranking, and now infiltrating the yearly readers choice awards, your ranking systems are loosing credibility in my book.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
Originally posted by Minsc THEY....ARE.....NOT....BEING....USED....TO...INCREASE....EVE'S....RATINGS!!!! FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
EVE: Exodus is rated at 89% on gamerankings.com, wow is at 91%, not a huge difference in ratings. If more sites were to re-review WoW in it's current form I'd bet money it would drop a few points too as the gameplay has been stale for 2 years.
Also by everyone's speculation, in order for EVE to keep the top rating players would have to be creating bot accounts all the time to add to the votes, hence there would be the 10's of thousands of ratings for EVE.
all YOU Guildwars haters...stfu..if you wanna pay monthly fees, line up. GW delivers better graphics than WoW and EQ2 and costs less. It has wonderful PVP and great replayability. I voted for it in all the categories applicable. It was by far the best game this year
I'm disappointed that you haven't included EVE's new 'revelations' (codenamed 'kali') expansion in the 'Most Anticipated' section of the vote.
CCP have chose to bring in the expansion in 3-parts. The first while the vote is happening, the last well into the new year. Are they being punished by the choice of this policy?
Originally posted by Minsc THEY....ARE.....NOT....BEING....USED....TO...INCREASE....EVE'S....RATINGS!!!! FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
EVE: Exodus is rated at 89% on gamerankings.com, wow is at 91%, not a huge difference in ratings. If more sites were to re-review WoW in it's current form I'd bet money it would drop a few points too as the gameplay has been stale for 2 years.
Also by everyone's speculation, in order for EVE to keep the top rating players would have to be creating bot accounts all the time to add to the votes, hence there would be the 10's of thousands of ratings for EVE.
You would lose that bet, as WoW's gameplay didn't change. it was expanded, but didn't change. Every rating would still be the same. and while its not much, WoW still has higher review average, and much more players then EVE could ever dream of.
And, like I said before, it seems EVE doesn't need 10's of thousands ratings to stay on top, and as long as its on top, BOT's accounts are not needed. (IF the botting issue is the case here)
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It doesn't have enough content to be one game. I have played GW and I have had it over a year now. There is not enough content for a single player game in it nor is there even remotely close for a MMORPG. GW is mainly an arena styled PvP game and it excells at that. That is why I voted for them as the PvP winner. No other game has had PvP that balanced before.
But that doesn't mean that they aren't all the same game, because any game that shares the same server is essentially the same game. Your analogy of Magic the Gathering only strengthens my point. Magic is a stand alone game. Players may have different cards, but all the card from both of their hands belong to the same game, not seperate stand alone games. So that analogy actually works better for me than for you.
Guild Wars as stated by their Devs themselves is a CORPG, not an MMORPG. The Guild Wars devs stated that themselves over a year ago when this argument first came about. But this isn't even about that, but keep that in mind when you read the next paragraph.
If MMORPG.COM were to place every GW expansion as a stand alone game, with the current rate of GW game releases and the fact that they are free, which is a significant reason why GW is ranked high to begin with; MMORPG.COM might as well rename this website to GuildWarsgames.com. I find it hard to believe that you actually believe that this is fair for the rating system. You are either a blind fanboi that just wants to see their game pasted all over the website or you are truly a dumb S.O.B...or you could just be a young ignorant kid, which more than likely you are since you play Guild Wars. Anyone who can put up with that much immaturity in a game must be one of them.
2. EQ2
3. Hate PvP with a passion so didn't vote.
4. EQ2
5. Really hard to say and it sucks that I could only choose one. But I chose Star Trek Online because I've always loved Star trek and badly want to play it.
6. Only DDO interested me at all and that was a disappointment.
7. EQ2. Fantastic game.
Great... the Eve crowd is on their way to cheat their way through the awards again... My bet is they take best PvE game this year as well LOL...
Even their reps encourage the cheating... ow well such is the nature of EvE it seems...
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=429075&page=1#29
Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
Cheating
would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise
it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite
game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
Yep, you want to even up the odds get working on your own game's community.
Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
Because I personally think this should be voted by mmorpg.com visitors, voted by people who visit mmorpg.com more then just once, and not just by EVE players who aren't intrested in mmorpg.com.
you personally think is irrelevant. This is a public site, open to all
whether they visit once a day, once a month or once a year. As long as
they are MMO players their votes are valid. If you want to support your
game then go to the games community and tell them to come vote.
Everyone has the opportunity to do so.
How is it cheating to ask people to vote? He is not even asking people to vote for eve, jsut vote.
Cheating would be creating several accounts and vote with all of them. Otherwise it's all fair. Just make a similar post on the forum of your favorite game. The more that vote the merrier I say.
Because I personally think this should be voted by mmorpg.com visitors, voted by people who visit mmorpg.com more then just once, and not just by EVE players who aren't intrested in mmorpg.com.
What you personally think is irrelevant. This is a public site, open to all whether they visit once a day, once a month or once a year. As long as they are MMO players their votes are valid. If you want to support your game then go to the games community and tell them to come vote. Everyone has the opportunity to do so.
It doesn't matter if its irrelevant or not, I was merely giving my opinion on the subject.I won't go to worldofwarcraft.com and ask every WoW fan to vote for WoW, Because I think mmorpg.com's awards should be given by mmorpg.com fans. the awards are basicly given away by EVE players.
Graphics: Ryzom
PvE: Ryzom
PvP: Lineage2.. only cause I couldn't test Ryzom one before though L2's pvp is broken due to the MASS Cheating Industry over there: legit pvp doesn't exist.
Story: Ryzom - So far so good.
Most Anticipated: Age of Conan - I saw the combat system, looks promising!
New Game: None
Favorite Game: Ryzom -
Ryzom is my best experience so far: I simply don't understand how I've missed this one for sooo long, well first year there was no pvp, so that must be it.. but after that.. dunno, bad promotion, bad critics..
To "Thedev.." who was saying that until he sees a phantasy game that offers him the same abilities than EVE's Sci-fi: give Ryzom a try.You can :
- Built your own unique toon: the same character creation than EVE - except that it's extented to the body (not only a customizable face) and that you will play/see your custom toon (unlike EVE)
- Built your own unique skills : every skills are made of "elemental functionnalities" (stanza) that you can change/ modify as you wish.. it's simply a genius.
- You level your skills by.. using them: like irl, the more you heal, the better healer you become, the more you craft, the better.. etc.
- You have no "class": you can level whatever of the 4 main professions you want: some try to level all .. some focus one one branch only.. but as the other part of the game, you are free to chose your path at any given time.
- Mobs.. well can you speak of "mobs" when you have Herbivore that migrate depending of the day/night or the seasons, when you have carnivores that follow these herivores and hunt them down to feed upon - and eventually that feed upon you? Hehe, I'd rather speak of the Ryzom fauna and flora: their behaviour is amazing and you don't want to hunt them alone.
- The craft system is a pure genious: you mentionned that in EVE, the system makes it so that it rewards the most "intelligent".. the same is true here. Craft is based on a "general" blueprint that tells you the type of element you need: it's up to you to find the best combination of elements to find the most appropriate equip. The more combination you litterally try.. the better knowledge (irl, not in-game stat) you'll have -ie: a Craft Master is trully a master of his art, ppl actually keep their recipe "formula" to themselves, sharing it only with their friends.
- The Interface is very but very similar to what EVE show: you can set-up everything, from the font size to the density, from the mob's color code to the chat color code, lol. Just like eve, it's like "Russian puppets" : the more you "right click for info" in a window.. the more detailed info you'll get.
- PvP: you got here Neutral system (to avoid pvp everywhere except in the "full pvp" area), Guild vs Guild, Faction vs Faction, Open pvp. Outposts exists which are very similar in function and reward than the L2's castle siege (except you got more of them and they are daily siegable).
- You got a great community: very helpfull - Awsome and remarkable GMs (CSR) who actually play the game, answer your questions (ingame) and enforce the game's rules. The shock with the absolute inexistence of them in L2 was terrible. The community by far looks like the one you find in EVE: simply great.
- Just like EVE, among the MMORPG, it has a strong graphical identity.. mobs and environments looks like nowhere else: a mix of phantasy and reality.
In a word, I've tried the game after OB -> C5 of Lineage2, tested wow quickly (I hate instance, I hate forced localized servers), played and enjoyed EVE (I stopped due to irl) and when I tried Ryzom's free trial (unlimited in time)... I bought a 3 month subscription 2 hours after!
The game is simply great and has a lot.. a lot to offer.
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It doesn't matter if its irrelevant or not, I was merely giving my opinion on the subject.
I won't go to worldofwarcraft.com and ask every WoW fan to vote
for WoW, Because I think mmorpg.com's awards should be given by
mmorpg.com fans. the awards are basicly given away by EVE players.
Why
wouldn't you go to worldofwarcraft.com? There votes and opinions are
just as valid as those coming from the EVE community, or the EQ2
community or the SWG:NGE community (all 5 of them). There are no
MMORPG.com fans, only MMO fans who come here seeking information and
the opinions of other MMO players.
A lot of MMO vets frequent this site, many of them are sick of WoW
style gameplay and all that it brings. Many of them are UO vets and
some have tried the game and while it wasn't for them, still thought it
was a good game. That's why EVE's rating is what it is, not because an
army of EVE players is constantly padding the scores. If that was the
case EVE would likely have double the amount of ratings than WoW does,
while in reality it has less.
The EVE community is the way it is for a reason, we're all in the same
world together. It makes for a strong community, which is the core of
ANY MMO.
Why I won't go to Worldofwarcraft.com? Because I don't think that the WoW fans will vote unbiased. I think they will nominate WoW in every section, even when WoW does not deserve it, with the only goal in mind to bring WoW Awards because that is the favorite game, and I think this is the exact same thing with EVE.
I think the awards should go to the games based on quality, and not which game can attract the most biased fanbois, like the ratings are now.
What I mean to say is that I strongly believe that someone who comes here on a regular basis will be more subjective and unbiased on voting then someone who's only goal is to give its game as most awards as possible, Even when they know other games do better at certain points.
Also keep in mind that EVE is now the only community informed of the awards.
These are mmorpg.com's awards, leave it to the mmorpg.com community to give them away. thats my oppinion.
We obviously disagree, so lets just give it a rest.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
THEY....ARE.....NOT....BEING....USED....TO...INCREASE....EVE'S....RATINGS!!!!
FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
Draw your conclusions yourself
I conclude that EVE will most likely be awarded Best Game, PvP, Graphics for two reasons.
a.) EVE harbours an extraordinary amount of forum whores who, if they are not already frequenting this site, will read CCP's "plz vote for us, plz" post and flock here to vote like ducks to a loaf of bread. When you create a game where people can surf the net while their skills train...this is what happens.
b.) I grew increasingly weary of the game and cancelled my 30+m sp PvP spec character a while ago, but nevertheless EVE actually does blow the vast majority of MMO's out of the water. This doesn't actually mean EVE is a great MMO...just that there is an awful lot of pure unadulterated crap in the MMO world. Anyhow, there are only a handful of MMO's that are in the same league as EVE currently, and these games do not fulfil the criteria stated in point a.
Moving on, the mainstream opinion of what is "good" is often ridiculously and horribly borked...and to be honest most people just use awards as a personal e-peen extension, to bolster blind faith in something, rather than using their brain and forming an objective opinion. To be blunt, you have to be a complete fool to take awards too seriously...remember we live in an era where Jessica Simpson wins people's choice awards.
That being said, I voted for Darkfall as most anticipated game because I am very eager to try it out and they are taking *fecking ages* making it.
QFT
Also, are all the spam accounts which are used to ramp up the ratings of games like EVE (not that it doesnt deserve its rating) going to be able to vote? If so, these awards mean about as much as the ratings on this site. I love this site but I hate people who make dummy accounts to vote their fave game to a falsely high rating.
Favorite game definitely EQ2 for me. The only one really worth playing.
THEY....ARE.....NOT....BEING....USED....TO...INCREASE....EVE'S....RATINGS!!!!
FFS just look at how many ratings EVE has, it's about 2000 short of WoW's. If people were creating dummy accounts to raise the rating it would be in the 10's of thousands. Would people PLEASE stop using that fucking idiotic argument already.
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
EVE: Exodus is rated at 89% on gamerankings.com, wow is at 91%, not a huge difference in ratings. If more sites were to re-review WoW in it's current form I'd bet money it would drop a few points too as the gameplay has been stale for 2 years.
Also by everyone's speculation, in order for EVE to keep the top rating players would have to be creating bot accounts all the time to add to the votes, hence there would be the 10's of thousands of ratings for EVE.
CCP have chose to bring in the expansion in 3-parts. The first while the vote is happening, the last well into the new year. Are they being punished by the choice of this policy?
While I am not saying that EVE's rating are the "victim" (not really a victim but) of bot accounts, I do keep it in mind as a possibility. the fact that it has less ratings then WoW is not a guarentee no bot accounts are being used. If EVE is on top, no further bot account are needed, hence its not in the 10's of thousands.
I do have to say that its odd that this is the only site where EVE is ranked so high. all other ratings are dominated by WoW. but then again, this website has always been home to a lot of EVE players. I won't draw a conclussion, but your arguement is a bit flawed.
EVE: Exodus is rated at 89% on gamerankings.com, wow is at 91%, not a huge difference in ratings. If more sites were to re-review WoW in it's current form I'd bet money it would drop a few points too as the gameplay has been stale for 2 years.
Also by everyone's speculation, in order for EVE to keep the top rating players would have to be creating bot accounts all the time to add to the votes, hence there would be the 10's of thousands of ratings for EVE.
You would lose that bet, as WoW's gameplay didn't change. it was expanded, but didn't change. Every rating would still be the same. and while its not much, WoW still has higher review average, and much more players then EVE could ever dream of.
And, like I said before, it seems EVE doesn't need 10's of thousands ratings to stay on top, and as long as its on top, BOT's accounts are not needed. (IF the botting issue is the case here)
BattleGround Europe: WW2Online is the best PvP game.
I have played EVE for 2 years and it is boring the hell out of me - PvP is boring and lame.