We can measure the degradation in Carbon 14 atoms. That is scientifically provable. By measuring the degradation, we can determine how old something is. 4 billion years is a ball park figure, but we are positive the world is at least that old. As for the big bang, we know that galaxies are expanding outward from a single event. That is also scientifically proven. Wether it was just a big bang or god saying "let there be light" can never be scientifically proven, and God is mum on the subject.
The carbon 14 tests do have critics just not widely known. Measuring degradation you miss one simple fact what is the baseline? Who established the baseline? Does enviroment affect degradation? We think it is 4 billion years old remember when dinosaurs were lizards with two brains and the brontosaurus? Hmm all proven wrong now. What about the fact that the scientific communtiy hid these facts when the knew they were wrong?
As for the big bang and let there be light. We know now that it is truly an impossibilty that it happened by chance there is to much order hence a creating hand had a part in it.
Also you must understand this about science most things discovered were by mistake not by design meaning they were working on one theory only to find an interesting effect of the test performed. remember splenda (only one example too many to list) was an insecticide that they found was 600 times sweeter than sugar. We are blind men fumbling around in the dark that is our science as it is.
do you have a book that has been written in over a span of 3000 years saying that i need to give you me money, lol? if so, i might consider it, because that would mean that youre over 3000 years old or that a prophet prophecied that youd say that. either way that would be quite impressive.
See here is an example of how Atheists and Theist think completely different. Just because a book says someone told them to give them money and was written 3k years ago, and that person is living today, doesnt mean all of a sudden we start worshiping him or giving him money? Religious people always take the mentally easy way out. "I cant explain it, therefore it must be divine or Godly" or the "If 3 billion other people think there is some God there must be one".
See an Atheist would look at that same problem and say, how is it possible the book could contain that information. There are soooooooo many possibilities here. If someone was alive 3k yrs ago doesnt make him a God today. I agree thats pretty far out there. But just because it cant be explained today doesnt mean that there wont be a perfectly good reason. I surely wouldnt just automatically assume it was divine just because I couldnt understand it.
Here are some possibilites to explain the unexplainable.
Maybe the person found a previously unknown plant/herb or combination that allowed them to extend thier life.
Maybe the prophet took a wild guess.
Maybe the person time traveled back in time 3k years ago and told the person to put that in the book.
Maybe the person lived in some status like "Deep Freeze" for 3k yrs then was unfrozen with todays technology.
Maybe the book you are reading is just something that looks authentic but actually is a fake.
Just to go a bit farther. 3k yrs now seems long but who knows if that will be a long life in a few millenium. Some people today are living 2 or 3 times longer then people 2k years ago were, and thats just with vacines and minor medical help. Its really not that implausible that in 2000 more years we could possibly extend our life much much longer, especially with more research in genes/clones or trading body parts.
But I suppose its just easier to say God is responsible for the unknown that way its not necessary to actually prove anything or have to think about it.
We can measure the degradation in Carbon 14 atoms. That is scientifically provable. By measuring the degradation, we can determine how old something is. 4 billion years is a ball park figure, but we are positive the world is at least that old. As for the big bang, we know that galaxies are expanding outward from a single event. That is also scientifically proven. Wether it was just a big bang or god saying "let there be light" can never be scientifically proven, and God is mum on the subject.
I hate to burst your 4 billion year old bubble, but Carbon 14 dating is only accurate to within 50,000 years...because that's how long it would take for all of the carbon to leave something, and it only works on things that were alive at some point.
edit: also, I am not a huge critic of carbon 14, there are some things used in it that are assumptions, such as the rate of dissipation, and environmental factors, but for the most part you are going to get a reading that is accurate to within a few thousand years. If there is ANY dating method that I trust, it's carbon 14.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Religious people always take the mentally easy way out. "I cant explain it, therefore it must be divine or Godly" or the "If 3 billion other people think there is some God there must be one".
OK, so that looks like you're twisting the words from a couple of my posts there. Indeed I stated millions of people's personal experience as possible evidence for the existence of God. I also said if millions of people believed in Invisible Pink Unicorns that might well be enough to make me look into how I might go about meeting one. How is that taking any kind mentally easy way out?
When you're talking about something you can't see, but can experience, how is many people's personal experiences bad evidence?
Why is it any different than the hundreds of people who've been locked away on a substantial number of eye-witness accounts of a crime?
How is it so different from the countless things that pretty much everyone believes but have had no direct proof of?
Let's say just as a random example...if you believe that water is made of hydrogen and oxygen...I would imagine most people would be happy to accept that as fact. Yet, how many of us have actually taken hydrogen and oxygen gas, verified that's what they were and put them together to create water? Now maybe someone here will say that they have done that. Why should we believe them if they did? It's just heresay.
Another one...imagine a meteor fell from the sky with and on it we discovered new primary colour and nearly everyone could see it, but you couldn't. Would the most obvious explanation be that the make-up of your eye was a little different from everyone else's or that they were all lying or deluding themselves?
Imagine you'd never had an orgasm. You'd had plenty of sex and tried all kinds of things, but it just didn't happen. Maybe you're ok with that, and there's plenty more to your life and yet you hear all these stories about the wonderful experiences many people were having with their sexual experiences. Would it be your conclusion that they're just making it up, that they feel that they need that in their life, and becasue you don't you can feel a little superior to them?
but then that extends to other things. A blind man coudn't see from birth and is douting sight exists. That doesn't mean anything because the majority see and believe it exists. Everything will have the people who chose not to believe and chose to believe and with no evidence they will for example-with no proof they say U.F.Os exist,but notice this comes from a ceartain catigory of people. I personally do belive in other life but not a circular machine for transport. The people who are in need of something wether info.,hope,ect. will say something with no evidence and the people looking for the same solution will say it exists. And besides science can still easily prove the earth is very old.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Well I have noticed that the percentages of atheists are higher in more well educated countries and that the majority of the more intelligent people are atheists. So what does this tell us? Well god are an invention by man to explain the unexplainable and as societies are developing more and more logical answers the role played by "god" weakens and science take over, but some people, not understanding modern ideas, or just afraid of the scientific answers that tell them that there are no "redemption" still hang on to the "god", others just to have an cause to be superior before others and hurt society "in order to please god" in some way,
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I agree with the proud to be Athiest.People fear that they will quit living after death-that there is no god or afterlife. I found that rather easing and besides you have to except that the most intelligent people don't get invovled in religion. I am an athiest and do not fear the theary that there is no god.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
I obviously didn't read this whole thread which recycles itself every few months back on the boards anyway.
Science isn't really all that, I know, I'm a scientist . To all those who think science is the pinnacle of truth and objectivity, it's not. Another point is that just because a natural phenomenon can be explained scientifically it has no bearing on God at all. With the uncovering of natural phenomenon and their reasons some people may end up seeing evidence of intelligent design.
Okay, I've added my .02 isk, i figured with a thread this long, I may as well say something.
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Well I have noticed that the percentages of atheists are higher in more well educated countries and that the majority of the more intelligent people are atheists.
Do you have any evidence for this statement?
So what does this tell us? Well god are an invention by man to explain the unexplainable and as societies are developing more and more logical answers the role played by "god" weakens and science take over, but some people, not understanding modern ideas
Ah, poor, simple theist souls and their lack of understanding. I guess science was all a bit too advanced for guys such as Galileo, Newton, Planck and Einstein and that's why they believed in God.
, or just afraid of the scientific answers that tell them that there are no "redemption" still hang on to the "god", So, what scientific answers suggest there is no redemption? others just to have an cause to be superior before others and hurt society "in order to please god" in some way, Some nutters are religious and some aren't. I suspect most of the criminals who hurt society aren't, but that's just my guess.
I find from my experience that more educated people are atheist. Educated and intellient are two different things . Also, scientific findings do not impunge on God in anyway. I don't see how people can even think just because we know about dark matter and quarks and all that stuff for example, that it deminishes the idea of God in anyway.
If God created everything, then God created this earth with its physics and scientific laws and properties. Therefore, on a philosophical level science and God should go hand in hand. That's how I think of it atleast.
Feel free of being proud to be an atheist, but IF you're wrong, was it worth it?
Cryomatrix
Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
I'm trying to recall the name of the poster who wrote the stuff about genetics awhile back, about latent, sublatent, and active DNA and how they pertain to a promethian species...that wasn't you was it Cryo?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
so tell me.name the exact name of the corupt companies we get truth and lies and it is true that the earth has to be old-we have found dinosaur bones and bones from a former state of ours. It isn't the media because even though there are lies,most of it is the truth and besides-if god comes then the worst that happens is he leaves me behind,because if he does decide to leave most of earth behind and take only his servants then your only worshiping him from fear of going to hell and longing to get everything in heaven
I will give you one MSNBC, they used to tell viewers to buy certain stock that the broadcasters owned and were caught by the feds. That is why none of the business people on TV on MSNBC own any stock. Ok another hmm, AP and its photos of the Palestinian Israeli Conflict. They were caught doctoring photos to misrepresent what was actually going on. Further more the were giving their cameras to Palestinians who would actually go out and take the pictures while saying that they actually had taken the pictures. They rescinded their claim when it was pointed out that the same man carrying a child from multiple buildings around the West Bank. Also this man cwas dead in several photos too. Hmm could that be a lie I wonder? Enron , Worldcom, Tyco any of these sound familiar?
I guess the media does'nt lie heh? Believe me I could go on and on. Have you ever heard the word propaganda?
You say most is truth ok how about this. A house burned down today killing a 19 year old young man. Simple story but I forgot to mention that is was because he had a meth lab that exploded. Oh and that toxic smoke from the chemicals used spread into the neighboring houses. And in a couple months when all the children have some strange sickness we are at a loss of why these children are sick. BTW true story so telling some lies or not the whole story can have negative effects on innocent people.
I worship him because he is my creator and he loves us all. Um you are looking at it in a worldly materialostic view. I expect nothing in heaven only peace of mind. I do fear hell I hear its not a great neighborhood.
As I said the media does tell lies,but you can't say every story is. If you do that then what good is it to watch it like you apparently do. And another thing-If that is how you feel than it shows that it is no different from other religions. If you where in one of those you'd the same way.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
to the athiest that said, "most athiests are educated people". errrrr.....wrong. im an educated person, and i have many educated friends, none of them are athiests.
someone has already pointed this out, many of the greatest scientists and genius' believe and believed in God. so stop trying to play the "athiests=smart, thiests=retarded" card. it doesnt fit, dumbass. i cant even believe that some of you would even attempt to say something so assinine, so insulting, so blatently false and misleading. and you call yourselves educated, lol.
sorry if i come off kinda harsh in this post, but i read that and got pretty pissed. that was a blatant jab as religious people, and frankly its just as insulting as if i would have said "go to hell". lets see, would you take that as an insult?
to modjoe, unlike wishywashy athiest and agnostic belief systems, the Christian belief system does (for the most part) have absolutes. one of them being the lake of fire and brimstone. kinda hard for a Christian that believes in heaven and hell to just not believe in it because it "offends" an agnostic that obviously cares way too much what others think about where hes going when he dies. caring whether someone goes to hell or not is not the same as disrespecting that individual. blasting the Christian that believes it for believing it is disrespect. check yourself, friend.
If God created everything, then God created this earth with its physics and scientific laws and properties. Therefore, on a philosophical level science and God should go hand in hand. That's how I think of it atleast.
Feel free of being proud to be an atheist, but IF you're wrong, was it worth it?
Cryomatrix
QFT & E
btw, i have 4 million isk currently, how much do you have, Cryo?
If God created everything, then God created this earth with its physics and scientific laws and properties. Therefore, on a philosophical level science and God should go hand in hand. That's how I think of it atleast.
Feel free of being proud to be an atheist, but IF you're wrong, was it worth it?
I stated that I've found that in general more educated people tend to be atheists. I also stated education + intelligence are different. By educated I mean Ph.D., M.D., J.D. etc. With the exception of M.D., most people can get Ph.D.'s quite easily. Anyway, being educated doesn't mean you're smart or not, it means you have obtained knowledge.
A person before said intelligent people = atheists. I disagreed and said educated. They are two different things. I find people with advanced degrees, higher levels of education, tend to be atheist.
I am in no way saying education = intelligence, they are two different things. There are people who'll rape me on a test of knowledge, they are more educated than me on teh subject matter, but the table turns when we take a critical thinking test.
I've met uneducated people that are smarter than most of the big wig Ph.D. i've worked with etc. I am not knocking religious people, i'm making a comment. Of course nothing is absolute, but on average, more educated people seem to be atheist at a higher %. But then again educated is independent of intelligence.
Also, Draenor,
They do have decimals in isk and in EVE. I'm about to make a deal so when i finish the deal i'll tell you the exact amount, i think PlanoMM asked for how much isk I have. I also have 2 characters (2 accounts), one market character and one PvP. The market character makes the cash, the PvP loses it when I get owned in PvP.
31,696,648.54 isk
Also Draenor, I did not talk about latent DNA and promethian species or society.
Cryomatrix
Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
I stated that I've found that in general more educated people tend to be atheists. I also stated education + intelligence are different. By educated I mean Ph.D., M.D., J.D. etc. With the exception of M.D., most people can get Ph.D.'s quite easily. Anyway, being educated doesn't mean you're smart or not, it means you have obtained knowledge.
A person before said intelligent people = atheists. I disagreed and said educated. They are two different things. I find people with advanced degrees, higher levels of education, tend to be atheist.
I am in no way saying education = intelligence, they are two different things. There are people who'll rape me on a test of knowledge, they are more educated than me on teh subject matter, but the table turns when we take a critical thinking test.
I've met uneducated people that are smarter than most of the big wig Ph.D. i've worked with etc. I am not knocking religious people, i'm making a comment. Of course nothing is absolute, but on average, more educated people seem to be atheist at a higher %. But then again educated is independent of intelligence.
Also, Draenor,
They do have decimals in isk and in EVE. I'm about to make a deal so when i finish the deal i'll tell you the exact amount, i think PlanoMM asked for how much isk I have. I also have 2 characters (2 accounts), one market character and one PvP. The market character makes the cash, the PvP loses it when I get owned in PvP.
31,696,648.54 isk
Also Draenor, I did not talk about latent DNA and promethian species or society.
Cryomatrix
That's funny, cause I've only known one smart atheist...and he's not an atheist anymore.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
you don't know many athiests do you-cause the believers I know are the opposite:educated but not intellegent. What I mean is they are really smart when it comes to acedemic subjects,but on other subjects they just go with what they first here and never think about it.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
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The carbon 14 tests do have critics just not widely known. Measuring degradation you miss one simple fact what is the baseline? Who established the baseline? Does enviroment affect degradation? We think it is 4 billion years old remember when dinosaurs were lizards with two brains and the brontosaurus? Hmm all proven wrong now. What about the fact that the scientific communtiy hid these facts when the knew they were wrong?
As for the big bang and let there be light. We know now that it is truly an impossibilty that it happened by chance there is to much order hence a creating hand had a part in it.
Also you must understand this about science most things discovered were by mistake not by design meaning they were working on one theory only to find an interesting effect of the test performed. remember splenda (only one example too many to list) was an insecticide that they found was 600 times sweeter than sugar. We are blind men fumbling around in the dark that is our science as it is.
See here is an example of how Atheists and Theist think completely different. Just because a book says someone told them to give them money and was written 3k years ago, and that person is living today, doesnt mean all of a sudden we start worshiping him or giving him money? Religious people always take the mentally easy way out. "I cant explain it, therefore it must be divine or Godly" or the "If 3 billion other people think there is some God there must be one".
See an Atheist would look at that same problem and say, how is it possible the book could contain that information. There are soooooooo many possibilities here. If someone was alive 3k yrs ago doesnt make him a God today. I agree thats pretty far out there. But just because it cant be explained today doesnt mean that there wont be a perfectly good reason. I surely wouldnt just automatically assume it was divine just because I couldnt understand it.
Here are some possibilites to explain the unexplainable.
Just to go a bit farther. 3k yrs now seems long but who knows if that will be a long life in a few millenium. Some people today are living 2 or 3 times longer then people 2k years ago were, and thats just with vacines and minor medical help. Its really not that implausible that in 2000 more years we could possibly extend our life much much longer, especially with more research in genes/clones or trading body parts.
But I suppose its just easier to say God is responsible for the unknown that way its not necessary to actually prove anything or have to think about it.
I hate to burst your 4 billion year old bubble, but Carbon 14 dating is only accurate to within 50,000 years...because that's how long it would take for all of the carbon to leave something, and it only works on things that were alive at some point.
edit: also, I am not a huge critic of carbon 14, there are some things used in it that are assumptions, such as the rate of dissipation, and environmental factors, but for the most part you are going to get a reading that is accurate to within a few thousand years. If there is ANY dating method that I trust, it's carbon 14.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
OK, so that looks like you're twisting the words from a couple of my posts there. Indeed I stated millions of people's personal experience as possible evidence for the existence of God. I also said if millions of people believed in Invisible Pink Unicorns that might well be enough to make me look into how I might go about meeting one. How is that taking any kind mentally easy way out?
When you're talking about something you can't see, but can experience, how is many people's personal experiences bad evidence?
Why is it any different than the hundreds of people who've been locked away on a substantial number of eye-witness accounts of a crime?
How is it so different from the countless things that pretty much everyone believes but have had no direct proof of?
Let's say just as a random example...if you believe that water is made of hydrogen and oxygen...I would imagine most people would be happy to accept that as fact. Yet, how many of us have actually taken hydrogen and oxygen gas, verified that's what they were and put them together to create water? Now maybe someone here will say that they have done that. Why should we believe them if they did? It's just heresay.
Another one...imagine a meteor fell from the sky with and on it we discovered new primary colour and nearly everyone could see it, but you couldn't. Would the most obvious explanation be that the make-up of your eye was a little different from everyone else's or that they were all lying or deluding themselves?
Imagine you'd never had an orgasm. You'd had plenty of sex and tried all kinds of things, but it just didn't happen. Maybe you're ok with that, and there's plenty more to your life and yet you hear all these stories about the wonderful experiences many people were having with their sexual experiences. Would it be your conclusion that they're just making it up, that they feel that they need that in their life, and becasue you don't you can feel a little superior to them?
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
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My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
The lord Xenu will have your head.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
I hear it's amazing when the purple stuffed worm does a raw blink on hari kari rock with a tuning fork...I need scissors, 61.
or something like that.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Science isn't really all that, I know, I'm a scientist
Okay, I've added my .02 isk, i figured with a thread this long, I may as well say something.
Cryomatrix
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
I find from my experience that more educated people are atheist. Educated and intellient are two different things
If God created everything, then God created this earth with its physics and scientific laws and properties. Therefore, on a philosophical level science and God should go hand in hand. That's how I think of it atleast.
Feel free of being proud to be an atheist, but IF you're wrong, was it worth it?
Cryomatrix
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
ISK doesn't come in decimal amounts....GAWD
I'm trying to recall the name of the poster who wrote the stuff about genetics awhile back, about latent, sublatent, and active DNA and how they pertain to a promethian species...that wasn't you was it Cryo?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I will give you one MSNBC, they used to tell viewers to buy certain stock that the broadcasters owned and were caught by the feds. That is why none of the business people on TV on MSNBC own any stock. Ok another hmm, AP and its photos of the Palestinian Israeli Conflict. They were caught doctoring photos to misrepresent what was actually going on. Further more the were giving their cameras to Palestinians who would actually go out and take the pictures while saying that they actually had taken the pictures. They rescinded their claim when it was pointed out that the same man carrying a child from multiple buildings around the West Bank. Also this man cwas dead in several photos too. Hmm could that be a lie I wonder? Enron , Worldcom, Tyco any of these sound familiar?
I guess the media does'nt lie heh? Believe me I could go on and on. Have you ever heard the word propaganda?
You say most is truth ok how about this. A house burned down today killing a 19 year old young man. Simple story but I forgot to mention that is was because he had a meth lab that exploded. Oh and that toxic smoke from the chemicals used spread into the neighboring houses. And in a couple months when all the children have some strange sickness we are at a loss of why these children are sick. BTW true story so telling some lies or not the whole story can have negative effects on innocent people.
I worship him because he is my creator and he loves us all. Um you are looking at it in a worldly materialostic view. I expect nothing in heaven only peace of mind. I do fear hell I hear its not a great neighborhood.
As I said the media does tell lies,but you can't say every story is. If you do that then what good is it to watch it like you apparently do. And another thing-If that is how you feel than it shows that it is no different from other religions. If you where in one of those you'd the same way.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
someone has already pointed this out, many of the greatest scientists and genius' believe and believed in God. so stop trying to play the "athiests=smart, thiests=retarded" card. it doesnt fit, dumbass. i cant even believe that some of you would even attempt to say something so assinine, so insulting, so blatently false and misleading. and you call yourselves educated, lol.
sorry if i come off kinda harsh in this post, but i read that and got pretty pissed. that was a blatant jab as religious people, and frankly its just as insulting as if i would have said "go to hell". lets see, would you take that as an insult?
to modjoe, unlike wishywashy athiest and agnostic belief systems, the Christian belief system does (for the most part) have absolutes. one of them being the lake of fire and brimstone. kinda hard for a Christian that believes in heaven and hell to just not believe in it because it "offends" an agnostic that obviously cares way too much what others think about where hes going when he dies. caring whether someone goes to hell or not is not the same as disrespecting that individual. blasting the Christian that believes it for believing it is disrespect. check yourself, friend.
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Originally posted by Cryomatrix
If God created everything, then God created this earth with its physics and scientific laws and properties. Therefore, on a philosophical level science and God should go hand in hand. That's how I think of it atleast.
Feel free of being proud to be an atheist, but IF you're wrong, was it worth it?
Cryomatrix
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Yes,I believe it would be worth it. At least I go knowing I had my beliefs.
And besides,I have read chapters in the bible and it doesn't all revolve around revelations.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Shut yer mouth lol.
I stated that I've found that in general more educated people tend to be atheists. I also stated education + intelligence are different. By educated I mean Ph.D., M.D., J.D. etc. With the exception of M.D., most people can get Ph.D.'s quite easily. Anyway, being educated doesn't mean you're smart or not, it means you have obtained knowledge.
A person before said intelligent people = atheists. I disagreed and said educated. They are two different things. I find people with advanced degrees, higher levels of education, tend to be atheist.
I am in no way saying education = intelligence, they are two different things. There are people who'll rape me on a test of knowledge, they are more educated than me on teh subject matter, but the table turns when we take a critical thinking test.
I've met uneducated people that are smarter than most of the big wig Ph.D. i've worked with etc. I am not knocking religious people, i'm making a comment. Of course nothing is absolute, but on average, more educated people seem to be atheist at a higher %. But then again educated is independent of intelligence.
Also, Draenor,
They do have decimals in isk and in EVE. I'm about to make a deal so when i finish the deal i'll tell you the exact amount, i think PlanoMM asked for how much isk I have. I also have 2 characters (2 accounts), one market character and one PvP. The market character makes the cash, the PvP loses it when I get owned in PvP.
31,696,648.54 isk
Also Draenor, I did not talk about latent DNA and promethian species or society.
Cryomatrix
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
you don't know many athiests do you-cause the believers I know are the opposite:educated but not intellegent. What I mean is they are really smart when it comes to acedemic subjects,but on other subjects they just go with what they first here and never think about it.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.