The real surprise is anyone who played more than two minutes of the beta didn't see this coming.
I tried SO hard to like this game, but I couldn't even manage to muster up a "eh, maybe it's not for me" attitude. I actually hate this game. Hearing that it cost $30M just makes it that much more laughable.
Imagine that, designing a game by taking creative direction from 40 year old ubernerds who 12-box EQ, and it's the most monumental flop of all time. I'm surprised they had time to reinvent the old EQ "why is my corpse outrunning me down that hill wtf is wrong with this game?" feature what with all the "I walked uphill both ways, in the cold, with no shoes, got paid half the copper I spent to complete this quest, and I liked it!" excitement they were crafting for us.
Seriously, an open source project could've released a better game... and they're a transient community of volunteers who can't agree on standards for anything, and their MANTRA is "let's make it like Microsoft did, but uglier and more complicated."
i paid good money for this game it was awfull and these are brand spanking pc's spec'a
CPU : Intel Core 2 CPU 660 2400 MHz
Bus Speed : 266 MHz
Motherboard : Gigabyte 965P-DS4
System : Gigabyte 965P-DS4
Memory : 2048 MB
Sound : SB X-Fi Audio [B400]
Video : NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Now il admit i was quit pissed off after i got this game it was awfull
but i seen there was a few updates after being put out and my firend got a trial for it so i signed up for another month to play with
her and i have to say f all has changed since release
The animations are awfull seriously if they just fixed the way people run id happly bite my lip and endure through the bug's
i fell through the world map 5 times today ! FIVE TIMES this is just not acceptable this never happend me in any mmo and i have literaly played them all ! this type of thing only ever happend to me privite servers of l2 ! Anyway thats just one of the problems i came across in this mess of a game it has great potential but they'd wanna get of there ass and sort out the overall apearance of the models amongst other things ive canceld again.
I wont be coming back now ever again !
Even on my system this game is ugly UGLY and im able to play on the highist settings ..id stay if they'd just sort out the god dam race's simple as that i can play with bugs i dont mind cause the games got potential but its to ugly and to buggy and after the shit i went through today in game i canceld again and im done with vanguard.
But im glad brad atleast apolgized for this mess .
I think Brad McQuaid is simply trying to compensate for a guilty conscience. Not because Vanguard isn't what was expected, but basically that Vanguard isn't what was advertised as being the goal. I don't respect that per se and I don't really see the reason why it has to be said apart from Brad wanting others to feel sorry for him.
It is in my view a weak position to place yourself in, self pity is never constructive.
Never mind whether the individual elements are true or not, it is at its core, merely whining.
I enjoy Vanguard, I play it with a score of friends and it's fun. There are things that are more fun than others but right now no other MMO out there is as much fun while still offering as diverse a field of activities as Vanguard. But Brad needs to shut up, get that "amazing team" into gear and keep the focus. It is my guess that if they don't get the ball rolling fast (within 3 months) they are going to lose whatever chance they may have had in making this a broad commercial success. Right now it is a success for the players who want a lot of choices in what to do, wants to have all their actions influence various parts of the world individually and has sufficient friends online to secure a stable party base. And of course they have to have a powerful computer as well but I see that as a minor point personally.
The fact that he compares Vanguard to DDO and Burning Crusade is in my view retarded beyond words. The moment that trend starts taking root is the moment you know that Sigil gave up on creating something that was in some ways "more" (not necessarily better, that depends on the individual's preferences) and "larger". If they remain even partly faithful to the current formula, the core audience of Burning Crusade is not the core audience of Vanguard.
And he should stop bashing DDO, that just shows poor sportsmanship, DDO attempted something else entirely and they succeeded at it. Perhaps he is just envious that they succeeded in seeing an idea through and he failed.
Maybe new leadership with a set of balls would be nice before Brad makes a mess of everything?
Maybe new leadership with a set of balls would be nice before Brad makes a mess of everything?
He should just turn the whole mess over to SOE and be done with it. At least that way we won't have to pretend that SOE isn't running the show like we are now.
I think Brad McQuaid is simply trying to compensate for a guilty conscience. Not because Vanguard isn't what was expected, but basically that Vanguard isn't what was advertised as being the goal. I don't respect that per se and I don't really see the reason why it has to be said apart from Brad wanting others to feel sorry for him.
It is in my view a weak position to place yourself in, self pity is never constructive.
Never mind whether the individual elements are true or not, it is at its core, merely whining.
I enjoy Vanguard, I play it with a score of friends and it's fun. There are things that are more fun than others but right now no other MMO out there is as much fun while still offering as diverse a field of activities as Vanguard. But Brad needs to shut up, get that "amazing team" into gear and keep the focus. It is my guess that if they don't get the ball rolling fast (within 3 months) they are going to lose whatever chance they may have had in making this a broad commercial success. Right now it is a success for the players who want a lot of choices in what to do, wants to have all their actions influence various parts of the world individually and has sufficient friends online to secure a stable party base. And of course they have to have a powerful computer as well but I see that as a minor point personally.
The fact that he compares Vanguard to DDO and Burning Crusade is in my view retarded beyond words. The moment that trend starts taking root is the moment you know that Sigil gave up on creating something that was in some ways "more" (not necessarily better, that depends on the individual's preferences) and "larger". If they remain even partly faithful to the current formula, the core audience of Burning Crusade is not the core audience of Vanguard.
And he should stop bashing DDO, that just shows poor sportsmanship, DDO attempted something else entirely and they succeeded at it. Perhaps he is just envious that they succeeded in seeing an idea through and he failed.
Maybe new leadership with a set of balls would be nice before Brad makes a mess of everything?
haha yes ive noticed this in his post's a few times now he always seems to try belittle other mmo's out at the moment to almost try to make vg sound better which it is far from.
He goes on like someone who wanted the latest XXXX and someone down the street got the last one and he cant get his hands on it so all he does is whine about it and belittle the person who has it !
I don't know why, but this reminds me of the movie "Quiz Show". Hopefully some of you have seen it, great movie.
Anyway, it's towards the end of the movie where one congressmen after another starts praising Charles Van Duren for finally telling the truth about the scam he was involved in. Then, just when you think he's going to get off lightly, one congressman says...
"I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intellegence should be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth."
In 20/20 hindsight we probably should have gone a bit lower tech and made a smaller world.
Which would have been the smart thing to do. Put out an engine that actually works on most current setups, then revamp and update it later, maybe in an expansion pack, or in some other way that people know it's coming and that they need to upgrade to a much higher end machine than they can currently afford.
I'm going to have to mildly disagree with you here. If they went lower tech, they'd have to stay lower tech for a long time, if not forever. Doing a massive engine change/upgrade would piss off thousands of subscribers who would then complain "Now VG is making us upgrade and costing me $$$!!"
No, I think they were better off doing it this way in the long run. Decide on the tech you want and go with that. It's hard in the short run, when people don't quite have the hardware yet, but in the long run, you'll have a game that a year or two from now is still state of the art, and now easily playable, rather than one that is already 3-4 years out of date.
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Uh, I hate to dispell this little fantasy, but, what you have in performance is what you have forever. The V:SoH is based on an old Unreal graphics engine. It is never going to get much better as the engine is not DX10 compatible. Heck, it is barely DX9 compatible. The same sort of philosophy was in play when EQ2 was developed and released with graphics that were for 'next-gen' computers. Well, it is 2 1/2 years later and EQ2 still cannot, and never will, run in a playable state with graphics options turned to higher quality levels. I am afraid the same is true of V:SoH. Without a Graphics Engine Upgrade, what you see is all you are ever going to get. Both in terms of quality and performance.
uh, your really wrong, so I don't think it's for you to 'dispel little fantasies' here Shoal. Deal with your own ones first maybe.
VG does not have to go to DX10 to 'get better' in terms of performace. Hell, considering the best parts of DX10 will be Vista only most people wouldnt see the improvement even if it could.
I run EQ2 at the *highest* settings right now. All the time, in groups, in raids, whatever with no lag. Guess what? I can even 2 box at the 2nd highest setting, on the same PC with 2 monitors. EQ2 has seen an incredible leap in performance over it's life span, ask anyone who plays it. That blows your entire point about this out of the water I guess?
Just to clarify, I have actually cancelled my VG sub, but the fact remains it *will* get better over time. I have no doubts on that, but personally I am not prepared to wait 2+ years for it to do so. Not when AoC is looking so good.
Sorry to sound narky, but people who spot unfounded opinions as if they were facts just piss me off some.
I believe I said it needed 200k-300k to be successful, and that I hoped to see 500k after the game was out 1 year, which would make it very profitable. So far we are in the mid 150s which is less than I would have hoped, but still good and still growing.
I pretty much doubt they have reached 150 subs, even with the weekends. I have said we released 2-3 months early and that releasing near BC was a mistake, but there was nothing we could do about it. That doesn't mean we were perfect in our development -- we made mistakes -- I talked about in the NYT about how hard it was to manage and organize a team of 100 people when we were used to to EQ 1 (which had about 25 people). So yes, it was harder to schedule and remain as focused and efficient. We also had the switch from MSFT to SOE which slowed us down and caused us to start beta too early. He had 5 years to get used to a 100 people, and 100 people isn't that t much, other cope just fine, I know people with 1k employees, first company of theirs, and they are doing brilliant, and run an efficient business. The clear difference between them is that the one I talk about is above average, and Brad is average, the only thing he is good at is marketing, but the ones who buy it are fools. Losing MS was their own bloody fault, as MS sent testers to sigil, and the testers wrote very bad (realistic is the correct word) reviews about the state of the game, so MS bailed. Had they done a better game, MS would have stayed. MS clearly chose the winner with AoC, which shall be as complex, but a lot more functional, and functional (noob friendlt, as the real VG hardcore would call it) is very important. Hard has no longer only one factor (time), hard evolved, whilst sigil got stuck with old notions in the past.
We also made the mistake of releasing a little early in terms of tech, e.g. we had hoped that computers would be cheaper that could run Vanguard by the time we launched. Time will fix this, but it is hurting us short term. In 20/20 hindsight we probably should have gone a bit lower tech and made a smaller world. But we really felt strongly from the very beginning that part of immersiveness in next gen MMOG was being seamless where you could travel wherever you wanted to, fly anywhere, be able to load any object in the world anywhere in the world, etc. Again, I think longer term as tech is increasing so rapidly, a lot of these problems will go away and having a seamless world with no instancing, ships and flying mounts, etc. will pay off. Next gen is definetly not seamless world, seamless world rarely helps immersion. I'm not saying instancing is 3rd gen, I'm saying they are both old concepts, nothing new there. Flying mounts, ships? That is third gen? please! Gameplay mechanic is what determines third gen, and Tabula Rasa or AoC will be the first real third gen games out there. Heck, DDO is more advanced than vanguard. VG is EQ rehashed.
I will apolgize for all of the above and the buck stops here. I won't, however, apologize for the team: they worked their asses off and continue to and truly believe in the game (as do I). That said, while I apologize for the mistakes, some of which we made and some of which were out of our hands, we also got the opportunity to make a very ambitious game, the game of our dreams, and were a start-up company that got a 30M+ budget, which is basically unheard of. So while VG does indeed have some issues, I know a lot of people are having fun with it, and a lot more will have fun with it in the future and call it a home. I am also proud to have been part of such an awesome team and to have been able to launch a second MMOG (not something a lot of people can say they have done). So, again, I do apologize for the shortcomings, but am also proud of the game and its potential, and am confident that while it is a successful game now (certainly not a WoW, but not a D&D online either) it will gain momentum as tech catches up, people tire of BC, etc. And also as we through both expansions and the live team add more really cool features to the game over the next year. Typical Brad, the basher here. All he could show is how a dev team could mess up 30m and the unreal license. Only if I had those resources. VG shall do no better than DDO. At least they have costumer support, they have a solid combat mechanic, and a very mature community. VG is absolutely nothing better than DDO, and shall not have more subscribers. His hate for DDO is fueled by his hate for Turbine, since back in the old days. He may old, but Brad is still that frustrated boy.
Also things like teleporters, experience rates, better LFG tools, etc. are all being looked at and you will see changes soon. I don't have the details yet, but we are listening and the game will get better and the areas where we messed up (large world, but too hard to find a group, etc.) will be addressed. - Brad McQuaid Yeah, yeah, we heard enough promises.
Well, time has come for VG to crash and burn, hope to never see you in development again, Brad, this is what you get for lying, and disrespect.
Uh, I hate to dispell this little fantasy, but, what you have in performance is what you have forever. The V:SoH is based on an old Unreal graphics engine. It is never going to get much better as the engine is not DX10 compatible. Heck, it is barely DX9 compatible. The same sort of philosophy was in play when EQ2 was developed and released with graphics that were for 'next-gen' computers. Well, it is 2 1/2 years later and EQ2 still cannot, and never will, run in a playable state with graphics options turned to higher quality levels. I am afraid the same is true of V:SoH. Without a Graphics Engine Upgrade, what you see is all you are ever going to get. Both in terms of quality and performance.
One little problem with that theory. EQ2 actually runs well on the highest settings on newer hardware and you don’t even need a top of the line system as long as you make some informed hardware decisions. Not only that the effects are quite spectacular, it’s actually really nice to get such a big boost in graphics quality as the game ages.
BTW, if DX10 outperforms DX9 it’s because DX9 was a CPU hog. Normally newer versions of DirectX is slower then the previous generation because developers use new features.
Originally posted by GeridenWell to be fair and honest at least he has apologised for this mess i paid good money for this game it was awfull and these are brand spanking pc's spec'a CPU : Intel Core 2 CPU 660 2400 MHz Bus Speed : 266 MHz Motherboard : Gigabyte 965P-DS4 System : Gigabyte 965P-DS4 Memory : 2048 MB Sound : SB X-Fi Audio [B400] Video : NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX Now il admit i was quit pissed off after i got this game it was awfull but i seen there was a few updates after being put out and my firend got a trial for it so i signed up for another month to play with her and i have to say f all has changed since release The animations are awfull seriously if they just fixed the way people run id happly bite my lip and endure through the bug's i fell through the world map 5 times today ! FIVE TIMES this is just not acceptable this never happend me in any mmo and i have literaly played them all ! this type of thing only ever happend to me privite servers of l2 ! Anyway thats just one of the problems i came across in this mess of a game it has great potential but they'd wanna get of there ass and sort out the overall apearance of the models amongst other things ive canceld again. I wont be coming back now ever again ! Even on my system this game is ugly UGLY and im able to play on the highist settings ..id stay if they'd just sort out the god dam race's simple as that i can play with bugs i dont mind cause the games got potential but its to ugly and to buggy and after the shit i went through today in game i canceld again and im done with vanguard. But im glad brad atleast apolgized for this mess . i just wish i could get a refund !
Your system should run this game fine. As for never falling through the world and saying you've literally played them all.. you've either been very lucky or your just full of it. I've falling through the world in almost every game I've played. DAoC did this a lot. WoW did this a lot. If your playing on the highest setting, this game isn't ugly... either your machine has some buggy equipment or once again your full of it. Again, the animations are very good.. not better than any others, but just as good. If you played L2, then you should know what ugly animations look like. I just bought a new system and the game does run great on it, but in beta and early release I was running the game with barely the minimum specs on the second to lowest graphic setting and the looked well enough to play.
If I could be guaranteed that you and any others that spit out this BS would stay out of any Vanguard post, I'd pay you all the $50 you paid for the game. This game does have a lot of work to get it up to par, but it is playable and not as bad as a lot of you say it is.
If you don't like the game.. that's cool, but don't come here spewing all this BS.
Picking on Brad is the same as picking on an NFL QB. We yell at the tv when they do something bad and we always second guess the playcalling but in hindsight he is the one raking in the money and laughing at us while we wish we could be in their shoes. Human nature. When somebody does a good job, they are treated like kings, and when they mess up for even the first time we are up in arms calling for them to be hung.
You claim a guy who creates multiple MMOs a guy of little talent? Let us go say Tom Brady in the NFL has no talent then! I mean the guy did win a superbowl, but on his latest project last season he failed and did not win. He must have no talent. Great logic. /end sarcasm
Yes, I consider him completely average and uncreative. A man with a single vision, a man without the capability to reinvent himself, and a man uncapable of realizing/accepting/adapting to evolution.
Furthermore: a man with total lack of respect towards his customers. He pulls the honesty trick they teach on political sciences class, he forgets, that keeping the word is an important factor.
Picking on Brad is the same as picking on an NFL QB. We yell at the tv when they do something bad and we always second guess the playcalling but in hindsight he is the one raking in the money and laughing at us while we wish we could be in their shoes. Human nature. When somebody does a good job, they are treated like kings, and when they mess up for even the first time we are up in arms calling for them to be hung. You claim a guy who creates multiple MMOs a guy of little talent? Let us go say Tom Brady in the NFL has no talent then! I mean the guy did win a superbowl, but on his latest project last season he failed and did not win. He must have no talent. Great logic. /end sarcasm
The higher the investment, the higher the criticism. VG cost over $30 million and was in development for 5 years. There were lots of expectations. Surely people expect more from a mega budget $100 million movie than a $10 million indie film?
Brady won 3 Superbowls. If Brad has 3 extremely successful MMOs under his belt, I'd give him some slack too. He has one. EQ1. And that was during a time where there was absolutely no competition in the genre. Seriously, I can't even believe you are comparing Brady and Brad in their prospective fields...
It was a general comparison you would be ignorant to take it to heart. The point of the post was that some random guy who plays video games claims that one guy has little talent because of an entire team of people. ANY QB in the NFL has more talent at football than you or I will ever have or ever had. That guy who plays on the practice squad has more talent than us.
The game is not a failure yet, and like somebody posted earlier any game that reached 100k subscribers is still around. Vanguard has done this already.
The point was not that Brad shit the bed when it came to making this game, the point was saying he has no talent was ignorant.
It was a general comparison you would be ignorant to take it to heart. The point of the post was that some random guy who plays video games claims that one guy has little talent because of an entire team of people. ANY QB in the NFL has more talent at football than you or I will ever have or ever had. That guy who plays on the practice squad has more talent than us. The game is not a failure yet, and like somebody posted earlier any game that reached 100k subscribers is still around. Vanguard has done this already. The point was not that Brad shit the bed when it came to making this game, the point was saying he has no talent was ignorant.
It has not been established that Vanguard has 100K subscribers.
What Brad said is that they had 150K registered users.
Registered user = box sale + buddy key + station pass
Subscriber = registered user that pays monthly fee after trial period or 30 days (whichever comes first).
It was a general comparison you would be ignorant to take it to heart. The point of the post was that some random guy who plays video games claims that one guy has little talent because of an entire team of people. ANY QB in the NFL has more talent at football than you or I will ever have or ever had. That guy who plays on the practice squad has more talent than us. The game is not a failure yet, and like somebody posted earlier any game that reached 100k subscribers is still around. Vanguard has done this already. The point was not that Brad shit the bed when it came to making this game, the point was saying he has no talent was ignorant.
Well, I don't think Brad is completely lacking in talent. I do think he lacks management skills to run a company like Sigil and I think he's a dinosaur in terms of development. He's lost touch with the times and the competition that is current in the MMO field.
Of all the games that may collapse with more than 100K subs, it's VG. I say this due to its high cost. Other games can survive by maintaining a very low pop because there was less investment. $30 million is a big number. This is not the type of game that can sustain itself on life support like other previous games. I'm not saying VG will shutdown but if there's a game that can collapse with over 100K subs (and Brad didn't clearly state VG had 100K subs, it could be less), it's VG.
Well, I can say that its ignorant for people to take literally a statement that is clearly a hyperbole.
I can agree he is lacking management skills, it is claiming somebody does not have talent when they alreayd proved they could do it in another game that did not make sense. Glad we are all cleared up and now we can continue other discussions.
It is so damned ironic, that you call me ignorant, I for one think Brad is ignorant. He bashed every potential competition for his game, saying things like (this made me laugh out loud) "the only tripple A MMO in 2007 will be Vanguard".
After claims like that you call me ignorant?
EQ1 was a natural evolution of the genre, nothing groundbraking there, except the graphics, and POV. Talent is where innovation is, and in a competition talent shall rise.
So far BMQ did not rise when it came to competition, and he did not innovate. He has no real talent.
Brad has not gotten the memo that the market has changed since EQ. Everquest started small and grew big (for its day). That's not how it works nowadays in mmos. If you start small you stay small. This pollyannish notion that Vanguard is going to grow, grow, grow is sad, if he actually believes that, or silly, if he thinks any of us are going to believe that.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
This is very true. Too much competition these days, release is really important in final numbers. Not to say they cannot recover some subscriptions if they fix up the game, but how the game is at release and the reaction it gets is huge. Half a year from now, new games will be out, the momentum for this one gone.
Originally posted by Amathe
Brad has not gotten the memo that the market has changed since EQ. Everquest started small and grew big (for its day). That's not how it works nowadays in mmos. If you start small you stay small. This pollyannish notion that Vanguard is going to grow, grow, grow is sad, if he actually believes that, or silly, if he thinks any of us are going to believe that.
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The real surprise is anyone who played more than two minutes of the beta didn't see this coming.
I tried SO hard to like this game, but I couldn't even manage to muster up a "eh, maybe it's not for me" attitude. I actually hate this game. Hearing that it cost $30M just makes it that much more laughable.
Imagine that, designing a game by taking creative direction from 40 year old ubernerds who 12-box EQ, and it's the most monumental flop of all time. I'm surprised they had time to reinvent the old EQ "why is my corpse outrunning me down that hill wtf is wrong with this game?" feature what with all the "I walked uphill both ways, in the cold, with no shoes, got paid half the copper I spent to complete this quest, and I liked it!" excitement they were crafting for us.
Seriously, an open source project could've released a better game... and they're a transient community of volunteers who can't agree on standards for anything, and their MANTRA is "let's make it like Microsoft did, but uglier and more complicated."
Hatetank
Well to be fair and honest
at least he has apologised for this mess
i paid good money for this game it was awfull and these are brand spanking pc's spec'a
CPU : Intel Core 2 CPU 660 2400 MHz
Bus Speed : 266 MHz
Motherboard : Gigabyte 965P-DS4
System : Gigabyte 965P-DS4
Memory : 2048 MB
Sound : SB X-Fi Audio [B400]
Video : NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Now il admit i was quit pissed off after i got this game it was awfull
but i seen there was a few updates after being put out and my firend got a trial for it so i signed up for another month to play with
her and i have to say f all has changed since release
The animations are awfull seriously if they just fixed the way people run id happly bite my lip and endure through the bug's
i fell through the world map 5 times today ! FIVE TIMES this is just not acceptable this never happend me in any mmo and i have literaly played them all ! this type of thing only ever happend to me privite servers of l2 ! Anyway thats just one of the problems i came across in this mess of a game it has great potential but they'd wanna get of there ass and sort out the overall apearance of the models amongst other things ive canceld again.
I wont be coming back now ever again !
Even on my system this game is ugly UGLY and im able to play on the highist settings ..id stay if they'd just sort out the god dam race's simple as that i can play with bugs i dont mind cause the games got potential but its to ugly and to buggy and after the shit i went through today in game i canceld again and im done with vanguard.
But im glad brad atleast apolgized for this mess .
i just wish i could get a refund !
Whatever.
I think Brad McQuaid is simply trying to compensate for a guilty conscience. Not because Vanguard isn't what was expected, but basically that Vanguard isn't what was advertised as being the goal. I don't respect that per se and I don't really see the reason why it has to be said apart from Brad wanting others to feel sorry for him.
It is in my view a weak position to place yourself in, self pity is never constructive.
Never mind whether the individual elements are true or not, it is at its core, merely whining.
I enjoy Vanguard, I play it with a score of friends and it's fun. There are things that are more fun than others but right now no other MMO out there is as much fun while still offering as diverse a field of activities as Vanguard. But Brad needs to shut up, get that "amazing team" into gear and keep the focus. It is my guess that if they don't get the ball rolling fast (within 3 months) they are going to lose whatever chance they may have had in making this a broad commercial success. Right now it is a success for the players who want a lot of choices in what to do, wants to have all their actions influence various parts of the world individually and has sufficient friends online to secure a stable party base. And of course they have to have a powerful computer as well but I see that as a minor point personally.
The fact that he compares Vanguard to DDO and Burning Crusade is in my view retarded beyond words. The moment that trend starts taking root is the moment you know that Sigil gave up on creating something that was in some ways "more" (not necessarily better, that depends on the individual's preferences) and "larger". If they remain even partly faithful to the current formula, the core audience of Burning Crusade is not the core audience of Vanguard.
And he should stop bashing DDO, that just shows poor sportsmanship, DDO attempted something else entirely and they succeeded at it. Perhaps he is just envious that they succeeded in seeing an idea through and he failed.
Maybe new leadership with a set of balls would be nice before Brad makes a mess of everything?
haha yes ive noticed this in his post's a few times now he always seems to try belittle other mmo's out at the moment to almost try to make vg sound better which it is far from.
He goes on like someone who wanted the latest XXXX and someone down the street got the last one and he cant get his hands on it so all he does is whine about it and belittle the person who has it !
I don't know why, but this reminds me of the movie "Quiz Show". Hopefully some of you have seen it, great movie.
Anyway, it's towards the end of the movie where one congressmen after another starts praising Charles Van Duren for finally telling the truth about the scam he was involved in. Then, just when you think he's going to get off lightly, one congressman says...
"I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intellegence should be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth."
<audience applauds loudly>
Again, great movie, I highly recommend it
No, I think they were better off doing it this way in the long run. Decide on the tech you want and go with that. It's hard in the short run, when people don't quite have the hardware yet, but in the long run, you'll have a game that a year or two from now is still state of the art, and now easily playable, rather than one that is already 3-4 years out of date.
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Uh, I hate to dispell this little fantasy, but, what you have in performance is what you have forever. The V:SoH is based on an old Unreal graphics engine. It is never going to get much better as the engine is not DX10 compatible. Heck, it is barely DX9 compatible. The same sort of philosophy was in play when EQ2 was developed and released with graphics that were for 'next-gen' computers. Well, it is 2 1/2 years later and EQ2 still cannot, and never will, run in a playable state with graphics options turned to higher quality levels. I am afraid the same is true of V:SoH. Without a Graphics Engine Upgrade, what you see is all you are ever going to get. Both in terms of quality and performance.
uh, your really wrong, so I don't think it's for you to 'dispel little fantasies' here Shoal. Deal with your own ones first maybe.
VG does not have to go to DX10 to 'get better' in terms of performace. Hell, considering the best parts of DX10 will be Vista only most people wouldnt see the improvement even if it could.
I run EQ2 at the *highest* settings right now. All the time, in groups, in raids, whatever with no lag. Guess what? I can even 2 box at the 2nd highest setting, on the same PC with 2 monitors. EQ2 has seen an incredible leap in performance over it's life span, ask anyone who plays it. That blows your entire point about this out of the water I guess?
Just to clarify, I have actually cancelled my VG sub, but the fact remains it *will* get better over time. I have no doubts on that, but personally I am not prepared to wait 2+ years for it to do so. Not when AoC is looking so good.
Sorry to sound narky, but people who spot unfounded opinions as if they were facts just piss me off some.
Well I did see a quote from Richard Gariott in an article stating that every MMORPG that hit 100,000 subscribers is still around.
That said - Vanguard made the top ten selling PC games list in the U.S for February at number 10.
In the last three weeks it hasnt made the list at all - so I am not sure where his numbers are going to come from.
Borrowed from FOH...
Originally Posted by serrathen
Your system should run this game fine. As for never falling through the world and saying you've literally played them all.. you've either been very lucky or your just full of it. I've falling through the world in almost every game I've played. DAoC did this a lot. WoW did this a lot. If your playing on the highest setting, this game isn't ugly... either your machine has some buggy equipment or once again your full of it. Again, the animations are very good.. not better than any others, but just as good. If you played L2, then you should know what ugly animations look like. I just bought a new system and the game does run great on it, but in beta and early release I was running the game with barely the minimum specs on the second to lowest graphic setting and the looked well enough to play.
If I could be guaranteed that you and any others that spit out this BS would stay out of any Vanguard post, I'd pay you all the $50 you paid for the game. This game does have a lot of work to get it up to par, but it is playable and not as bad as a lot of you say it is.
If you don't like the game.. that's cool, but don't come here spewing all this BS.
We need to get over this guy, false prophet. done.
Picking on Brad is the same as picking on an NFL QB. We yell at the tv when they do something bad and we always second guess the playcalling but in hindsight he is the one raking in the money and laughing at us while we wish we could be in their shoes. Human nature. When somebody does a good job, they are treated like kings, and when they mess up for even the first time we are up in arms calling for them to be hung.
You claim a guy who creates multiple MMOs a guy of little talent? Let us go say Tom Brady in the NFL has no talent then! I mean the guy did win a superbowl, but on his latest project last season he failed and did not win. He must have no talent. Great logic. /end sarcasm
Yes, I consider him completely average and uncreative. A man with a single vision, a man without the capability to reinvent himself, and a man uncapable of realizing/accepting/adapting to evolution.
Furthermore: a man with total lack of respect towards his customers. He pulls the honesty trick they teach on political sciences class, he forgets, that keeping the word is an important factor.
Brady won 3 Superbowls. If Brad has 3 extremely successful MMOs under his belt, I'd give him some slack too. He has one. EQ1. And that was during a time where there was absolutely no competition in the genre. Seriously, I can't even believe you are comparing Brady and Brad in their prospective fields...
It was a general comparison you would be ignorant to take it to heart. The point of the post was that some random guy who plays video games claims that one guy has little talent because of an entire team of people. ANY QB in the NFL has more talent at football than you or I will ever have or ever had. That guy who plays on the practice squad has more talent than us.
The game is not a failure yet, and like somebody posted earlier any game that reached 100k subscribers is still around. Vanguard has done this already.
The point was not that Brad shit the bed when it came to making this game, the point was saying he has no talent was ignorant.
What Brad said is that they had 150K registered users.
Registered user = box sale + buddy key + station pass
Subscriber = registered user that pays monthly fee after trial period or 30 days (whichever comes first).
Of all the games that may collapse with more than 100K subs, it's VG. I say this due to its high cost. Other games can survive by maintaining a very low pop because there was less investment. $30 million is a big number. This is not the type of game that can sustain itself on life support like other previous games. I'm not saying VG will shutdown but if there's a game that can collapse with over 100K subs (and Brad didn't clearly state VG had 100K subs, it could be less), it's VG.
Well, I can say that its ignorant for people to take literally a statement that is clearly a hyperbole.
It is so damned ironic, that you call me ignorant, I for one think Brad is ignorant. He bashed every potential competition for his game, saying things like (this made me laugh out loud) "the only tripple A MMO in 2007 will be Vanguard".
After claims like that you call me ignorant?
EQ1 was a natural evolution of the genre, nothing groundbraking there, except the graphics, and POV. Talent is where innovation is, and in a competition talent shall rise.
So far BMQ did not rise when it came to competition, and he did not innovate. He has no real talent.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
This is very true. Too much competition these days, release is really important in final numbers. Not to say they cannot recover some subscriptions if they fix up the game, but how the game is at release and the reaction it gets is huge. Half a year from now, new games will be out, the momentum for this one gone.