It is not only possible but probable Vanguard will secure 500,000 subscribers if they can sustain and maybe even accelerate this momentum by improving and enhancing the game.
I believe there are 500,000 (at least) people out there that want a vast world to explore, a more complex and sophisticated game without the ease of the current MMORPGs on the market.
Vanguard was "setback" (knocked down, really) as a result of its (1) early release and (2) many and varied bugs. However, many people have looked at Vanguard knocked down (I was one) and said, "it is dead!" No! In reality, Vanguard is alive and well and quickly getting back on its feet. It is in recovery from a horrid release, and they are improving and enhancing the game. You do not have to take my word for it, but if it were not so I would be preaching how bad the game is currently. Instead, the progress has been very encouraging and they keep on making progress.
My example of vanguards future:
Vanguard stands up.
LOTRO kicks Vanguard in the nuts.
Vanguard falls.
Vanguard stands up.
Age of Conan kicks vanguard in the balls.
Vanguard falls.
Vanguard stands up.
Warhammer kicks vanguard in the balls.
Vanguard falls.
There is NO future for this game. As i've said it'll top out at 200k -MAYBE- if it's lucky and gets some of the hardcore who think grinding 5 thousand minotaurs is fun or competing with 10 groups for 1 named is a good idea or waiting in line for your turn. VG will have to compete and surpass up coming releases. That's not to include LOTRO expansions and huge content patches(one this june). WOW expansions (you know damn well people will get playing).. I really don't need to continue...
I love reading the post from people that claim this game is dead. It isn't dead - not yet. It is actually improving. Yes. It is improving. This coming from someone that gave this game a 3 out of 10 in my review. LOL! My 6 month review will be due soon and I'll be once again telling it like it is to those of you who wish to read it. I was brutally honest in my first Vanguard review and I can promise you I'll be just as honest this go around. To those of you that keep BS'n on this forum about how bad Vanguard is and preaching gloom and doom can keep right on doing what you're doing. Anyone that comes on here and reads your BS post and believes it is a real shame. Despite Vanguards rocky last few months I can attest that it is improving and it has gotten better. As I have said time and time again, Vanguard was released 1 year(not 3 months and not 6 months) to early and slowly but surely it is getting better. In 6 to 7 more months this game is going to be one of the best there is. I remember people saying SWG was going to crash and burn when it first launched and I was there saying just the oposite and it did remain a good game until the NGE killed it. SWG turned into a great game pre-NGE. To bad SOE mucked it up! Well I am here to tell you that I predict that Vanguard will be here a year from now and it will be way, way better than it was at launch. Will it die? LMAO! No. In fact I am here to say that I think it will have 200k to 300k subscribers by June of next year. No those are not WoW's numbers but they are respectable and in 2 years time Vangaurd will no doubt be pushing 500k. Yes...500k! You heard it here first from one of Vanguards most harshest critics.
I'll put up 500 bucks saying VG will never hit 500k.
We'll see.
OK 5000.. but that's the most I'll bet.
LOL! Shayde - you're awesome. One of the best posters on these forums and you always make me laugh.
Thanks. Most find me a hoot.
Others.. well...
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by _Kyle_ My example of vanguards future: Vanguard stands up. LOTRO kicks Vanguard in the nuts. Vanguard falls. Vanguard stands up. Age of Conan kicks vanguard in the balls. Vanguard falls. Vanguard stands up. Warhammer kicks vanguard in the balls. Vanguard falls. As i've said it'll top out at 200k
I totally disagree with you on LOTR: that is not even a MMORPG by MY definition. The game is seriously lacking. No PvP. No player housing. No challenge. Very linear/forced gameplay.
Nevertheless, I think you are right that Age of Conan can make Vanguard more vulnerable. AoC is probably a competitor.
EDIT: I really think you are underestimating Vanguard; I would have agreed if I did not resubscribe and see the improvements and game enhancements for myself.
Originally posted by _Kyle_ My example of vanguards future: Vanguard stands up. LOTRO kicks Vanguard in the nuts. Vanguard falls. Vanguard stands up. Age of Conan kicks vanguard in the balls. Vanguard falls. Vanguard stands up. Warhammer kicks vanguard in the balls. Vanguard falls. As i've said it'll top out at 200k
I totally disagree with you on LOTR: that is not even a MMORPG by MY definition. The game is seriously lacking. No PvP. No player housing. No challenge. Very linear/forced gameplay.
Nevertheless, I think you are right that Age of Conan can make Vanguard more vulnerable. AoC is probably a competitor.
EDIT: I really think you are underestimating Vanguard; I would have agreed if I did not resubscribe and see the improvements and game enhancements for myself.
If your definition of an MMO is PVP and player housing... there are only like 5 MMO's.
LOTRO has PVP. LOTRO is introducing player housing. LOTRO had a stable launch and is very polished. It's also the #1 sold PC game right now with estimates of 500-600k subscribers.
But no.. it's not an MMO.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
if you really like the game, you wouldnt even have time to write reviews in any forums...and you're telling us that it'll reach 500k subscribers in a year or so, but thats what YOU'RE hoping it'll get that far thats why you needed to write reviews to get people into the game...i honestly dont like it anymore, it's so damn boring once you reach the mid 20's to 30's, hell i have a much funner time crafting than adventuring but then again the crafting system jsut got screwed...
See...I did not say 500k in a year...I said in about 2 years. I'm actually still very much enjoying it and though I cannot play it for more then a few hours a week I see the improvements coming in the patches. Yes they are slow, and that is why I say the game will be much, much improved in 6 to 7 more months. If Brad and them can keep up this pace and doing their weekly patches as they have been doing this game will be incredably fun by this time next year.
To the detractors that "don't care" and continue to post about not caring (LOL!) I say, keep on singing...Vanguard is a good game and getting better. But hey...as one poster said, don't take my word for it. Give it some time and then play it yourself. Then see who the one is that is doing all the BS'n.
I've been playing Vanguard for a little over a month now, and it's so much better than it was when I first logged in.
I don't have the best computer, but it seems to me that they are increasing performance and a lot of the bugs that I've encountered have been fixed.
If they can get the marketing right from SOE and keep working hard to fix performance issues and bugs as they appear, this game has the potential to come close to, if not reach 500k subs in 2 years imho.
Hell, it's the only MMO that I've ever been able to get my gf to play.
That's the problem. You ignored first impression. Bit the bullet and tried it again. I'm speaking for the majority of people here. People that don't have the time to waste on a beta. The time to waste money on entertainment that isn't entertaining. They don't look back. They don't give second chances. THAT'S the majority whether people like it or not. This is how the world turns.
LOTRO, while I havn't played it. My mother/father in-laws have. They are MAJOR mmo geeks dating back to first beta phase testing of EQ1. I value their opinion greatly and they have stated on multiple occasions and points the game is fulfilling. So i'm going to have to side with them, because well they've played LOTRO sense beta and continue to play. From what i'm told it doesn't get into its own untill lvl20. The lower levels are mostly training and prep for the story, which sounds like a good idea to me.
I just don't see a really good future for VG. I honestly don't. I could be wrong, but untill i'm proven wrong. I stick by my opinion on the matter. With the bad first impression and up coming releases. Plus the upcoming releases have already taken an example of VG. They've pushed their release dates for repolish and refining. Smart move. I'm thankful that Sigil did screw up, because you have to have some bad eggs now and again to set an example of what SHOULDN'T be done.
As in all RPGs, players assume the role of a fictional character (most commonly in a fantasy setting)[3] and take control over many of that character's actions.[2] MMORPGs are distinguished from single-player or small multi-player RPGs by the number of players, and by the game's persistent world, usually hosted by the game's publisher, which continues to exist and evolve while the player is away from the game.[2]
So how is LOTRO not an MMO? You accuse others of, and I paraphraze, "making complete Bullshot up about a game".. and you say this.
You can dislike a game all you want, but you can't say LOTRO isn't an MMO. It's twice the MMO VG is, IT WORKS.
Who's spouting crazy now?
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
You seem a bit tension. Oops, I mean tense! Breath through your nostrils and out of your mouth. You did too much work by going to Wikipedia, the Great Oracle of all Knowledge and Wisdom. You have consulted the Oracle, and she has provided you a definition of a MMO (I did not read it!).
if you really like the game, you wouldnt even have time to write reviews in any forums...and you're telling us that it'll reach 500k subscribers in a year or so, but thats what YOU'RE hoping it'll get that far thats why you needed to write reviews to get people into the game...i honestly dont like it anymore, it's so damn boring once you reach the mid 20's to 30's, hell i have a much funner time crafting than adventuring but then again the crafting system jsut got screwed...
See...I did not say 500k in a year...I said in about 2 years. I'm actually still very much enjoying it and though I cannot play it for more then a few hours a week I see the improvements coming in the patches. Yes they are slow, and that is why I say the game will be much, much improved in 6 to 7 more months. If Brad and them can keep up this pace and doing their weekly patches as they have been doing this game will be incredably fun by this time next year.
To the detractors that "don't care" and continue to post about not caring (LOL!) I say, keep on signing...Vanguard is a good game and getting better. But hey...as one poster said, don't take my word for it. Give it some time and then play it yourself. Then see who the one is that is doing all the BS'n.
You know vanguard is LOSING not GAINING subs right now right? everywhere you look it has bad reviews. you will never see 500k in vanguard because even though people are leaving it quickly now once sony owns it completely people will jump off even faster.
- So how casual do you think they need to make Vanguard to pull in 500k subscribers?
- And how many hard-core players are going to leave as it becomes more casual? Having spoken to someone whose Guild has dropped from 600 to 300 because the game is becoming more casual.
- When will Vanguard support high end technology - like dual core processors and dual video cards?
As for dying - Richard Garriot said in a discussion of MMORPG's that no game which reached a 100k subscribers has been cancelled yet. So unless Vanguard wants to buck that trend its safe.
You know vanguard is LOSING not GAINING subs right now right? everywhere you look it has bad reviews. you will never see 500k in vanguard because even though people are leaving it quickly now once sony owns it completely people will jump off even faster.
I do not think so, buddy.
I think Vanguard is slowly but surely obtaining new subscriptions (from price drop) and resubscibers (from game improvements).
While lotro is pretty shallow its still 100 times better than vg just because you can actually play it.
How so? Do you currently play Vanguard, though? if by play you mean i paid my 15 for this month then yes i "play" it. My guild asked me if i was back for good, I told them yes, i should have said no. Its not any better for me because i could live with the bugs before.
yep its dead. empty = dead when sony owns the game even more will leave.
Empty?! OMG! Are you serious? You don't play the game then do you. I was playing today, yes during regualr peoples hours, and there were so many stinking players on in the area I was in that I ahd to turn my game rigs settings down and I rarely have lag like that! It comes from one thing - lots of other players in close proximity to my character! I was out in the stinking deserts of Qalia and people were fighting over MOBS! Yes they were bickering over MOBS because there was so many people trying to complete these quest. I was like so many people say this game is dead and yet if this is what a dead game looks like god forbid what a live one must be like I'd need a Cray super computer to run it.
By the way I just joined a guild named Sha Shatar on the Florendyl sever and they have like 240+ members! Today I watched as they added another half a dozen! Yes 240+ members in this guild! I ahven't seen numbers like that since SWG pre-NGE! Or Planetside for that matter. If Vanguard is dead explain how this guild is this big and still growing?
I will predict that this game will be hitting 200k to 300k come this time next year. If they add all the things they say they are going to add - jousting! Ship to Ship combat. The free roaming flying mounts. The new landmass. More solo content. Raid content(all ready in testing by the way) and etc, etc....Vanguard will be a seriously great game.
You seem a bit tension. Oops, I mean tense! Breath through your nostrils and out of your mouth. You did too much work by going to Wikipedia, the Great Oracle of all Knowledge and Wisdom. You have consulted the Oracle, and she has provided you a definition of a MMO (I did not read it!).
However, I said MMORPG.
Yes, it is multiplayer.
See.. now YOU are being funny.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
30-50k up to 300? thats a pretty HUGE jump for a game where all you hear is bad. Have you been in the noob zones lately? Empty.. I am subbed right now so yea i know whats up with my server dont know about yours
Originally posted by Itanius +1 subscription just for you, Brad.
So Brad is in luck - theres a sucker born every day.
So at 1 sucker per day - 500K subs will take a little over a thousand years
But seriously - theres a new subscriber - so the game needs to make a good impression to keep Itanius happy and hopefully recomending the game to friends.
Come back in a few weeks Itanius and tell us what you think.
Good or bad, it's still publicity. And all, all of you are promoting the game.
You might say, Vanguard r t3h suxxors. ROFLROFL!1. But to people who haven't played the game, you're just giving them a reason to try it out, and see for themselves.
I have played the game for approximately one month, as it was given to me free.
But, I will not spout out how much the game is going to be a big success, because I honestly don't care.
It could be the greatest game in the world, and improving by leaps and bounds, but if it is, why bother coming here and telling us it is?
Why aren't you playing it!?
Giving good reviews to a game many people think is bad (many, but not all), is doing barely anything, if that, to promote the game.
If the game is fantastic, and I read your rant about how it is the up and coming game, and then see a dozen people say it isn't...
Especially after I have played it...
Let's just say, it doesn't leave a good lasting impression.
I'm not for, or against the game in anyway.
The game is just a game.
If I don't like it, to the garbage with it.
If I like it, then I wont be blowing my horn to recruit for the game.
Dead to me means shut down, turned off, and obviously the game is still live. Somewhere just above dead- a tiny blip that is not quite a flat line but close - is where the game is now.
Of course it will improve. How can it not improve with such extraordinary room for improvement? How much depends on who is doing the improving, and how in tune with the market they are.
One thing I know. Brad McQuaid isn't the guy to turn this game around. He hasn't reacted to its unpopularity with recognition of the game's real flaws, which he still defends as features.
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Originally posted by ReturnF1reyou're just giving them a reason to try it out, and see for themselves.
It is precisely what I did. Good point!
The suspicious brevity of a Vanguard review such as "it sucks" makes one incredulous. The suspicious brevity of "it is awesome" has the same impact.
I resubscribed, I am happy I did, and it is possible I will be with Vanguard for years to come if they can sustain this momentum in trying to repair, improve, and enhance the game. If it is not for you and you think "it sucks," I hope you find a great game (or life). If it is a game for you, I think that is great. As for me, I am not sure but happy I returned.
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My example of vanguards future:
Vanguard stands up.
LOTRO kicks Vanguard in the nuts.
Vanguard falls.
Vanguard stands up.
Age of Conan kicks vanguard in the balls.
Vanguard falls.
Vanguard stands up.
Warhammer kicks vanguard in the balls.
Vanguard falls.
There is NO future for this game. As i've said it'll top out at 200k -MAYBE- if it's lucky and gets some of the hardcore who think grinding 5 thousand minotaurs is fun or competing with 10 groups for 1 named is a good idea or waiting in line for your turn. VG will have to compete and surpass up coming releases. That's not to include LOTRO expansions and huge content patches(one this june). WOW expansions (you know damn well people will get playing).. I really don't need to continue...
We'll see.
OK 5000.. but that's the most I'll bet.LOL! Shayde - you're awesome. One of the best posters on these forums and you always make me laugh.
Thanks. Most find me a hoot.
Others.. well...
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I totally disagree with you on LOTR: that is not even a MMORPG by MY definition. The game is seriously lacking. No PvP. No player housing. No challenge. Very linear/forced gameplay.
Nevertheless, I think you are right that Age of Conan can make Vanguard more vulnerable. AoC is probably a competitor.
EDIT: I really think you are underestimating Vanguard; I would have agreed if I did not resubscribe and see the improvements and game enhancements for myself.
I totally disagree with you on LOTR: that is not even a MMORPG by MY definition. The game is seriously lacking. No PvP. No player housing. No challenge. Very linear/forced gameplay.
Nevertheless, I think you are right that Age of Conan can make Vanguard more vulnerable. AoC is probably a competitor.
EDIT: I really think you are underestimating Vanguard; I would have agreed if I did not resubscribe and see the improvements and game enhancements for myself.
If your definition of an MMO is PVP and player housing... there are only like 5 MMO's.
LOTRO has PVP. LOTRO is introducing player housing. LOTRO had a stable launch and is very polished. It's also the #1 sold PC game right now with estimates of 500-600k subscribers.
But no.. it's not an MMO.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
No, it "ain't!"
I just described what features of a MMORPG that LOTR lacks, among many others.
See...I did not say 500k in a year...I said in about 2 years. I'm actually still very much enjoying it and though I cannot play it for more then a few hours a week I see the improvements coming in the patches. Yes they are slow, and that is why I say the game will be much, much improved in 6 to 7 more months. If Brad and them can keep up this pace and doing their weekly patches as they have been doing this game will be incredably fun by this time next year.
To the detractors that "don't care" and continue to post about not caring (LOL!) I say, keep on singing...Vanguard is a good game and getting better. But hey...as one poster said, don't take my word for it. Give it some time and then play it yourself. Then see who the one is that is doing all the BS'n.
I've been playing Vanguard for a little over a month now, and it's so much better than it was when I first logged in.
I don't have the best computer, but it seems to me that they are increasing performance and a lot of the bugs that I've encountered have been fixed.
If they can get the marketing right from SOE and keep working hard to fix performance issues and bugs as they appear, this game has the potential to come close to, if not reach 500k subs in 2 years imho.
Hell, it's the only MMO that I've ever been able to get my gf to play.
That's the problem. You ignored first impression. Bit the bullet and tried it again. I'm speaking for the majority of people here. People that don't have the time to waste on a beta. The time to waste money on entertainment that isn't entertaining. They don't look back. They don't give second chances. THAT'S the majority whether people like it or not. This is how the world turns.
LOTRO, while I havn't played it. My mother/father in-laws have. They are MAJOR mmo geeks dating back to first beta phase testing of EQ1. I value their opinion greatly and they have stated on multiple occasions and points the game is fulfilling. So i'm going to have to side with them, because well they've played LOTRO sense beta and continue to play. From what i'm told it doesn't get into its own untill lvl20. The lower levels are mostly training and prep for the story, which sounds like a good idea to me.
I just don't see a really good future for VG. I honestly don't. I could be wrong, but untill i'm proven wrong. I stick by my opinion on the matter. With the bad first impression and up coming releases. Plus the upcoming releases have already taken an example of VG. They've pushed their release dates for repolish and refining. Smart move. I'm thankful that Sigil did screw up, because you have to have some bad eggs now and again to set an example of what SHOULDN'T be done.
No, it "ain't!"
I just described what features of a MMORPG that LOTR lacks, among many others.
Sorry.. nobody else in the sane world wouldn't classify LOTRO as an MMO.
Wiki defines an MMO as...
Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORPG) is a genre of online role-playing video games (RPGs) in which a large number of players interact with one another in a virtual world.[2]
As in all RPGs, players assume the role of a fictional character (most commonly in a fantasy setting)[3] and take control over many of that character's actions.[2] MMORPGs are distinguished from single-player or small multi-player RPGs by the number of players, and by the game's persistent world, usually hosted by the game's publisher, which continues to exist and evolve while the player is away from the game.[2]
So how is LOTRO not an MMO? You accuse others of, and I paraphraze, "making complete Bullshot up about a game".. and you say this.You can dislike a game all you want, but you can't say LOTRO isn't an MMO. It's twice the MMO VG is, IT WORKS.
Who's spouting crazy now?
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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You.
You seem a bit tension. Oops, I mean tense! Breath through your nostrils and out of your mouth. You did too much work by going to Wikipedia, the Great Oracle of all Knowledge and Wisdom. You have consulted the Oracle, and she has provided you a definition of a MMO (I did not read it!).
However, I said MMORPG.
Yes, it is multiplayer.
See...I did not say 500k in a year...I said in about 2 years. I'm actually still very much enjoying it and though I cannot play it for more then a few hours a week I see the improvements coming in the patches. Yes they are slow, and that is why I say the game will be much, much improved in 6 to 7 more months. If Brad and them can keep up this pace and doing their weekly patches as they have been doing this game will be incredably fun by this time next year.
To the detractors that "don't care" and continue to post about not caring (LOL!) I say, keep on signing...Vanguard is a good game and getting better. But hey...as one poster said, don't take my word for it. Give it some time and then play it yourself. Then see who the one is that is doing all the BS'n.
You know vanguard is LOSING not GAINING subs right now right? everywhere you look it has bad reviews. you will never see 500k in vanguard because even though people are leaving it quickly now once sony owns it completely people will jump off even faster.So I have a few questions.
- So how casual do you think they need to make Vanguard to pull in 500k subscribers?
- And how many hard-core players are going to leave as it becomes more casual? Having spoken to someone whose Guild has dropped from 600 to 300 because the game is becoming more casual.
- When will Vanguard support high end technology - like dual core processors and dual video cards?
As for dying - Richard Garriot said in a discussion of MMORPG's that no game which reached a 100k subscribers has been cancelled yet. So unless Vanguard wants to buck that trend
its safe.
I think Vanguard is slowly but surely obtaining new subscriptions (from price drop) and resubscibers (from game improvements).
I do believe it is gaining, yes.
Empty?! OMG! Are you serious? You don't play the game then do you. I was playing today, yes during regualr peoples hours, and there were so many stinking players on in the area I was in that I ahd to turn my game rigs settings down and I rarely have lag like that! It comes from one thing - lots of other players in close proximity to my character! I was out in the stinking deserts of Qalia and people were fighting over MOBS! Yes they were bickering over MOBS because there was so many people trying to complete these quest. I was like so many people say this game is dead and yet if this is what a dead game looks like god forbid what a live one must be like I'd need a Cray super computer to run it.
By the way I just joined a guild named Sha Shatar on the Florendyl sever and they have like 240+ members! Today I watched as they added another half a dozen! Yes 240+ members in this guild! I ahven't seen numbers like that since SWG pre-NGE! Or Planetside for that matter. If Vanguard is dead explain how this guild is this big and still growing?
I will predict that this game will be hitting 200k to 300k come this time next year. If they add all the things they say they are going to add - jousting! Ship to Ship combat. The free roaming flying mounts. The new landmass. More solo content. Raid content(all ready in testing by the way) and etc, etc....Vanguard will be a seriously great game.
You.
You seem a bit tension. Oops, I mean tense! Breath through your nostrils and out of your mouth. You did too much work by going to Wikipedia, the Great Oracle of all Knowledge and Wisdom. You have consulted the Oracle, and she has provided you a definition of a MMO (I did not read it!).
However, I said MMORPG.
Yes, it is multiplayer.
See.. now YOU are being funny.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
woefeather yep my server name is a typo
*takes a bow with back facing you*
So Brad is in luck - theres a sucker born every day.
So at 1 sucker per day - 500K subs will take a little over a thousand years
But seriously - theres a new subscriber - so the game needs to make a good impression to keep Itanius happy and hopefully recomending the game to friends.
Come back in a few weeks Itanius and tell us what you think.
Good or bad, it's still publicity. And all, all of you are promoting the game.
You might say, Vanguard r t3h suxxors. ROFLROFL!1. But to people who haven't played the game, you're just giving them a reason to try it out, and see for themselves.
I have played the game for approximately one month, as it was given to me free.
But, I will not spout out how much the game is going to be a big success, because I honestly don't care.
It could be the greatest game in the world, and improving by leaps and bounds, but if it is, why bother coming here and telling us it is?
Why aren't you playing it!?
Giving good reviews to a game many people think is bad (many, but not all), is doing barely anything, if that, to promote the game.
If the game is fantastic, and I read your rant about how it is the up and coming game, and then see a dozen people say it isn't...
Especially after I have played it...
Let's just say, it doesn't leave a good lasting impression.
I'm not for, or against the game in anyway.
The game is just a game.
If I don't like it, to the garbage with it.
If I like it, then I wont be blowing my horn to recruit for the game.
And, that's all I have to say on it.
Dead to me means shut down, turned off, and obviously the game is still live. Somewhere just above dead- a tiny blip that is not quite a flat line but close - is where the game is now.
Of course it will improve. How can it not improve with such extraordinary room for improvement? How much depends on who is doing the improving, and how in tune with the market they are.
One thing I know. Brad McQuaid isn't the guy to turn this game around. He hasn't reacted to its unpopularity with recognition of the game's real flaws, which he still defends as features.
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It is precisely what I did. Good point!
The suspicious brevity of a Vanguard review such as "it sucks" makes one incredulous. The suspicious brevity of "it is awesome" has the same impact.
I resubscribed, I am happy I did, and it is possible I will be with Vanguard for years to come if they can sustain this momentum in trying to repair, improve, and enhance the game. If it is not for you and you think "it sucks," I hope you find a great game (or life). If it is a game for you, I think that is great. As for me, I am not sure but happy I returned.