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WoW is Dieing!

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  • metalcoremetalcore Member Posts: 798

    Typical of this forum.

    <insert any game name here> game is dying.

    Repeat.

    All games have highs and lows, some come back others dont, just play the game and have fun.

    Who cares if game a have 50 million players and game b has 10,000 so long as you enjoy it.

    Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
    Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve

  • MrGrimMrGrim Member UncommonPosts: 21
    Starcraft is practically a religion in Korea now, however Korea trying to make the game an idol in North America?*. Just because some countries are more serious about certain games does not mean much.



    I'd say in order for a game to be truly gaining momentum in the way you're saying we'd have to have a lot more things like that in both the North American Market and the Asian one too.



    You could be right though, Starcraft took like 2 years for the Koreans to like make a channel dedicated for it, maybe it will be the same for wow.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by 45ACP

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.
    Lol are you kidding me?  It will outlive all mmorpgs released in 2 years from now? hahahaha thats the most rediculous thing ive heard.  How will a game already outdated survive even the mmorpgs coming out this year?  WAR, AoC, even LOTRO.  I guarantee they lose atleast half of the US subrscibers within the next 8 months.  Wake up If I would hear a dollar for each time I heard "Well WoW surely is going to lose a tons of subscribers now!" over the past 2 years, I would be funding my own MMORPG now. and WoW outdated? Forgive me for laughing at that statement. WoW is at 8.5 million subscribers, WoW isn't outdated, far from it. WoW will easily outlive WAR, AOC and Lotro. actually, Blizzard probably already made more money from WoW then all those 3 games combined will make in their entire lifetime. I'm wide awake, it seems you are the one dreaming that WAR, AoC and Lotro are the new big kids on the block. haha.

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    http://www.blizzard.com/press/



    Just read all the press release, you'll see that NA numbers are rising and rising.
    The press release was before TBC came out. oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.

    I just told myself that WoW is dying. For someone who thinks that WoW isn't dying, you sure do take offense to someone bashing it. And why aren't you playing WoW right now? Since it's the holy grail of MMOs.offense? So because I defend my standpoint, I'm suddenly offended? please, be realistic..



    Ahh, the old "Why aren't you playing [insert game here] right now" trump card. I'll explain it to you, nobody plays his or her mmorpg 24/7. thats why.

    You're always crying when someone bashes WoW. Is that realistic enough? I was talking about you sig, and you spend mroe time defending it, then playing it.Funny thing is, I wasn't being offensive or agressive to you, yet here you are branding my posts as "Crying". says enough about your maturity which is, judging by this post and your past ones, isn't really something to write home about anyway, why don't you grow up before you start debating hm?. And No, I don't spend more time defending it, lets not pretend you know anything about the way I spend my time, alright?
  • thetankthetank Member Posts: 200
    Yea..

    WoW is "dieing"...

    Do you really want us to believe that?

    It is the MMO with the largest number of subscribers and their population is growing steadly?

    Outdated?? Wtf?

    i wont even comment that one as every single thing points the opposite way..



    Please! Haters! Atleast get yourself good arguments.

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  • Rogue420Rogue420 Member Posts: 296
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by 45ACP

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.
    Lol are you kidding me?  It will outlive all mmorpgs released in 2 years from now? hahahaha thats the most rediculous thing ive heard.  How will a game already outdated survive even the mmorpgs coming out this year?  WAR, AoC, even LOTRO.  I guarantee they lose atleast half of the US subrscibers within the next 8 months.  Wake up If I would hear a dollar for each time I heard "Well WoW surely is going to lose a tons of subscribers now!" over the past 2 years, I would be funding my own MMORPG now. and WoW outdated? Forgive me for laughing at that statement. WoW is at 8.5 million subscribers, WoW isn't outdated, far from it. WoW will easily outlive WAR, AOC and Lotro. actually, Blizzard probably already made more money from WoW then all those 3 games combined will make in their entire lifetime. I'm wide awake, it seems you are the one dreaming that WAR, AoC and Lotro are the new big kids on the block. haha.

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    http://www.blizzard.com/press/



    Just read all the press release, you'll see that NA numbers are rising and rising.
    The press release was before TBC came out. oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.

    I just told myself that WoW is dying. For someone who thinks that WoW isn't dying, you sure do take offense to someone bashing it. And why aren't you playing WoW right now? Since it's the holy grail of MMOs.offense? So because I defend my standpoint, I'm suddenly offended? please, be realistic..



    Ahh, the old "Why aren't you playing [insert game here] right now" trump card. I'll explain it to you, nobody plays his or her mmorpg 24/7. thats why.

    You're always crying when someone bashes WoW. Is that realistic enough? I was talking about you sig, and you spend mroe time defending it, then playing it.Funny thing is, I wasn't being offensive or agressive to you, yet here you are branding my posts as "Crying". says enough about your maturity which is, judging by this post and your past ones, isn't really something to write home about anyway, why don't you grow up before you start debating hm?. And No, I don't spend more time defending it, lets not pretend you know anything about the way I spend my time, alright?

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  • r3t4li4tionr3t4li4tion Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by Zarraa



    *Smile*



    Calm down my good man, WOW is not dying in fact it could lose half it's subscriptions and still be on top.

    Now will WOW loose some subscriptions with upcoming releases certainly, but rumors of it's demise are quite premature.



    Crazy kids...I tell ya.
     



    Thats not my point, my point is that until this guy shows me solid data that says WoW is losing massive amounts off subscribers,  he should stop making unfounded statements about a game that is compleatly healthy
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  • LemacsLemacs Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by 45ACP

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.
    Lol are you kidding me?  It will outlive all mmorpgs released in 2 years from now? hahahaha thats the most rediculous thing ive heard.  How will a game already outdated survive even the mmorpgs coming out this year?  WAR, AoC, even LOTRO.  I guarantee they lose atleast half of the US subrscibers within the next 8 months.  Wake up If I would hear a dollar for each time I heard "Well WoW surely is going to lose a tons of subscribers now!" over the past 2 years, I would be funding my own MMORPG now. and WoW outdated? Forgive me for laughing at that statement. WoW is at 8.5 million subscribers, WoW isn't outdated, far from it. WoW will easily outlive WAR, AOC and Lotro. actually, Blizzard probably already made more money from WoW then all those 3 games combined will make in their entire lifetime. I'm wide awake, it seems you are the one dreaming that WAR, AoC and Lotro are the new big kids on the block. haha.

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    http://www.blizzard.com/press/



    Just read all the press release, you'll see that NA numbers are rising and rising.
    The press release was before TBC came out. oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.

    I just told myself that WoW is dying. For someone who thinks that WoW isn't dying, you sure do take offense to someone bashing it. And why aren't you playing WoW right now? Since it's the holy grail of MMOs.offense? So because I defend my standpoint, I'm suddenly offended? please, be realistic..



    Ahh, the old "Why aren't you playing [insert game here] right now" trump card. I'll explain it to you, nobody plays his or her mmorpg 24/7. thats why.

    You're always crying when someone bashes WoW. Is that realistic enough? I was talking about you sig, and you spend mroe time defending it, then playing it.Funny thing is, I wasn't being offensive or agressive to you, yet here you are branding my posts as "Crying". says enough about your maturity which is, judging by this post and your past ones, isn't really something to write home about anyway, why don't you grow up before you start debating hm?. And No, I don't spend more time defending it, lets not pretend you know anything about the way I spend my time, alright?

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  • Rogue420Rogue420 Member Posts: 296
    Originally posted by Lemacs

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by 45ACP

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.
    Lol are you kidding me?  It will outlive all mmorpgs released in 2 years from now? hahahaha thats the most rediculous thing ive heard.  How will a game already outdated survive even the mmorpgs coming out this year?  WAR, AoC, even LOTRO.  I guarantee they lose atleast half of the US subrscibers within the next 8 months.  Wake up If I would hear a dollar for each time I heard "Well WoW surely is going to lose a tons of subscribers now!" over the past 2 years, I would be funding my own MMORPG now. and WoW outdated? Forgive me for laughing at that statement. WoW is at 8.5 million subscribers, WoW isn't outdated, far from it. WoW will easily outlive WAR, AOC and Lotro. actually, Blizzard probably already made more money from WoW then all those 3 games combined will make in their entire lifetime. I'm wide awake, it seems you are the one dreaming that WAR, AoC and Lotro are the new big kids on the block. haha.

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Rogue420

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    http://www.blizzard.com/press/



    Just read all the press release, you'll see that NA numbers are rising and rising.
    The press release was before TBC came out. oh and you think, despite the fact that TBC received great scores everywhere, that people suddenly left in mass amounts? yeah, just keep telling yourself that. besides, Blizzard has so many subscribers, it will outlive all mmorpg's released in 2 years from now.

    I just told myself that WoW is dying. For someone who thinks that WoW isn't dying, you sure do take offense to someone bashing it. And why aren't you playing WoW right now? Since it's the holy grail of MMOs.offense? So because I defend my standpoint, I'm suddenly offended? please, be realistic..



    Ahh, the old "Why aren't you playing [insert game here] right now" trump card. I'll explain it to you, nobody plays his or her mmorpg 24/7. thats why.

    You're always crying when someone bashes WoW. Is that realistic enough? I was talking about you sig, and you spend mroe time defending it, then playing it.Funny thing is, I wasn't being offensive or agressive to you, yet here you are branding my posts as "Crying". says enough about your maturity which is, judging by this post and your past ones, isn't really something to write home about anyway, why don't you grow up before you start debating hm?. And No, I don't spend more time defending it, lets not pretend you know anything about the way I spend my time, alright?

    QQ I just felt i had to say ^^^^there is a danm lot of quoting going on here^^^^^^

    Yes there is.

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  • MidnitteMidnitte Member Posts: 510

    WoW isn't dying but its losing some of its play base because of the expansion. The level 60-70 grind was suppose to be longer then 1-60 and getting attuned for karazhan on the such is unrealistic. Only time will tell

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  • KordeshKordesh Member Posts: 1,715
    Originally posted by MrTumN3s

     WoW is finally DIEING! People are getting bored of the high level grinds, and about time. I quit a long time, but recently i have been seeing people quitting day and day. What could be the cause of this? A horrible expansion pack that only added in two lazy races and one big chunk of land? The Next Gen MMO's ? Whatever it may be, and maybe you've been seeing is a lot lately, but people have been complaining about WoW regardless of the reasons.
    No it's not, don't be stupid, and I could only wish.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    Originally posted by BeowulfAgate

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Lets bulk up the "WoW is dying" arguement with some overstated numbers and see where the calculations take us. Lets assume the following.



    Lets assume someone plays on 100 different servers

    They know another 99 people on each of those servers who recently quit

    These numbers are overstated to hell.



    100 players x 100 servers = 10,000

    (10,000 / 8500000)x100 = 0.1% of WoW total player base quit.



    Your math is based on them using alts as the population numbers, but they use active accounts.  So if 100 people quit, that is 100 accounts, it does not matter how many characters they had on how many servers. 



    So using your mathematical assumptions:

    100 players/8500000x100=0.0012% of WoW total player base quit.



    These threads are so funny....

    1. I know they use active accounts as their population number

    2. My numbers were based on 1 person knowing 100 different people wach with a seperate account on 100 different servers

    3. Perhaps I should have been more descriptive as the "Defend it blindly at all costs" patrol obviously didn't understand I was actually defending WoW.



    I hope you realise I was defending the game by saying that even in an "extreme worst case" scenario of 100 players leaving over 100 servers (total of 10,000 accounts) that there would hardly be a dent in the game. Worse than this is the fact my numbers are obviously made up, yet you looked for a fault in them. Your actually trying to pick a fight with someone who sahres your point of veiw, and made an ass out of yourself in the process.



    So next time your going to blindly defend something, its a good idea to actually make sure the person your arguing with is someone who doesn't agree with your point.



    "These threads are so funny...."


  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    Everyone on this thread agrees wow isn't "dying" and that the threader's just abit of a ninny. And yet here so many people are writing long threads about Wow this and Wow that, you guys love it.

    Daunting prospect: even in many ages when the 8mil and rising population of WoW does die, blizzard will finally unleash project "Wow 2" and claim world domination along with McDonalds and cillit bang. I seriuosly doubt WoW will ever die just get replaced by the next blizzard game.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    Originally posted by Consensus


    Everyone on this thread agrees wow isn't "dying" and that the threader's just abit of a ninny. And yet here so many people are writing long threads about Wow this and Wow that, you guys love it.
    Daunting prospect: even in many ages when the 8mil and rising population of WoW does die, blizzard will finally unleash project "Wow 2" and claim world domination along with McDonalds and cillit bang. I seriuosly doubt WoW will ever die just get replaced by the next blizzard game.
    WoW will never manage to get anywhere near the domination of Cillit Bang, unless of course "Barry Scott" becomes a playable race.
  • sacredfoolsacredfool Member UncommonPosts: 849

    Haahaha....

    Another thread of WoW dying.... no srry, "dieing". all i can say that wow will not die in two years or even four years or probably six years time.... you all guys forget how all the masses in Asia that have no PC's or internet now will finally be able to afford it on a quality level that allows them to play wow. now all those people (afterall over 50% of the world ) will start to play Wow, blizzard will take care of it!

    personally i despise wow and im waiting for Tabula Rasa and AoC which i think have potential (and thats not only because they are on the top of rankings ) and which i have been tracking since announcement. i feel no tempteation though to critise WoW, maybe if not for they game, but surely for the marketing. keep it up blizzard, gl!


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    Seriously Farmville? Yeah I think it's great. In a World where half our population is dying of hunger the more fortunate half is spending their time harvesting food that doesn't exist.


  • Maverick123wMaverick123w Member Posts: 115
    I have no idea how many people are playing or if the game is dyign etc.  But I do know that I downloaded the trial the other day and the startign areas were empty.  I didn't do the new starter areas so maybe thats where people are.

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  • DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
    As much as i hate World Of Warcraft,i have to sadly admit to saying that it is NO where near dying..You are a fool for thinking this,tell mommy to re-fill the sandbox in the yard and go play.

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  • guascoguasco Member UncommonPosts: 68
    lol

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  • BeowulfAgateBeowulfAgate Member UncommonPosts: 40
    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Originally posted by BeowulfAgate

    Originally posted by Atomicide

    Lets bulk up the "WoW is dying" arguement with some overstated numbers and see where the calculations take us. Lets assume the following.



    Lets assume someone plays on 100 different servers

    They know another 99 people on each of those servers who recently quit

    These numbers are overstated to hell.



    100 players x 100 servers = 10,000

    (10,000 / 8500000)x100 = 0.1% of WoW total player base quit.



    Your math is based on them using alts as the population numbers, but they use active accounts.  So if 100 people quit, that is 100 accounts, it does not matter how many characters they had on how many servers. 



    So using your mathematical assumptions:

    100 players/8500000x100=0.0012% of WoW total player base quit.



    These threads are so funny....

    1. I know they use active accounts as their population number

    2. My numbers were based on 1 person knowing 100 different people wach with a seperate account on 100 different servers

    3. Perhaps I should have been more descriptive as the "Defend it blindly at all costs" patrol obviously didn't understand I was actually defending WoW.



    I hope you realise I was defending the game by saying that even in an "extreme worst case" scenario of 100 players leaving over 100 servers (total of 10,000 accounts) that there would hardly be a dent in the game. Worse than this is the fact my numbers are obviously made up, yet you looked for a fault in them. Your actually trying to pick a fight with someone who sahres your point of veiw, and made an ass out of yourself in the process.



    So next time your going to blindly defend something, its a good idea to actually make sure the person your arguing with is someone who doesn't agree with your point.



    "These threads are so funny...."



    How is my pointing out the ludicrousness of your math be interpreted as "blindly" defending anything?  Since there is a maximum allowed characters of 50 on any account, your assumption is flawed from the start.  Then to assume that someone is going to play on 100 (or 50) servers and actually have to time to get to know enough people that he could know 100 who quit.  Now, what percentage of those individuals he has gotten to know so well are quitting? 10%...25%...50%?  Do I need to go on with the lack of logic of your example?  Perhaps next time you should review what you are writing so that you do not continue to make "an ass out of yourself in the process"



    If you had bothered to read my post, instead of just reacting, you would seen I made no point or reached any conclusion, I was simply taking exception with the assumptions of your math.  If you put something so flawed out there as an example, you shouldn't get so much sand in your vagina when others point out the obvious errors....
  • TyrgrisTyrgris Member Posts: 321

    *looks around holding out his arms*

    CAN I HAVE EVERYONES STUFF?

  • Carl132pCarl132p Member UncommonPosts: 538
    nope its bop noob
  • atkafighteratkafighter Member Posts: 71
    I really hope it is dying, because I really want the MMO industry to move on.



    Or I'll start playing a different genre.



    Or even go back to consoles.



    But seriously the game will hang on for years.  People won't just move on.  That's part of the hook of MMOs.
  • MasterPain55MasterPain55 Member Posts: 257

    Believe me WoW isn't dieing, however i wish it was.

    I bought the game at launch, since then i have cancelled my subscribtion multiple times. I currently have my account frozen.

    Walk in to org 2 years ago and you see about 100 people gathered around the bank/ah.

    2 years later pre xpan, walk into org 300+ people gathered around bank/ah

    After Xpansion release the belt of WoW exploded and now so many people play that your screen is usually filled with names.

    -Sure a lot of the vets quit, becuase every patch update = More raid dungeons + Class Respect. They never add anything new to the game except new dungeons w/ more loot. For every vet that quits 100, more people join.

    Fact

    WoW is like Crack, a few people decide to quit each day. But hundreds of people start using Crack each day. No matter how many people stop using Crack, their is allways going to be more people starting to use Crack.

    We're gonna have to wait for Extasy to come and take all the crack heads away

  • ChainmailChainmail Member Posts: 173




    Why do people make threads like this? They are pointless and ill informed....Don't feed the trolls!!!
  • eldarock25eldarock25 Member Posts: 5

    my personal opinion on WoW is that like eq in the later stages of the game they started tending to there vet players the ones who have the lvl 75 and 400 aa points, Well WoW is the same way they are catering to there  vets and not newbs so eventally WoW will no longer become a game that holds 8 million people it will hold a bunch of high lvls. i played at launch and i loved it for 6 months and relized that its hard to have fun and lvl cause all the people playing are high lvls. but then again i am just a hardcore gamer and dont know much lol. but i feel that eventally WoW will become like eq not dead but bearly breathing on its own.

     

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  • AngelboundAngelbound Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,437

    You know I dont blame people for wanting wow to die for the right reasons, it was really the only game that had the least grind for being casual except end game, and the community is just plain horrid, while I agree it starts alot of negativity so in a way it is pointless to make these. But I will be glad to see it die considering companys will realise this is not what players want and make better games. And the fact that wow changes people because of raiding and man ive seen it change people. I had a friend whos hubby started becoming abusive after he hit 60 and im not saying it happens to everyone but it happens to alot of people.

     

    In my opinion wow can be bad for a person because it requires so much effort end game and the community can drive you into this ignorant mentality of a poor community.

     

    Please do not take what I said offensivly im just stating from what I have seen in my own experience.

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