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Can I come to the funeral?
And why the heck would WoW die?
UO is what, ten years old now and still alive and kicking with a playerbase of around 150k and it's not even close to dying.
The only thing that will kill WoW is Blizzard when they close down the servers ten or so years from now.
I had always played Alliance before and had 2 characters with the best possible gear at the time (priest and warrior). I stripped them, sold everything and deleted both characters when I quit. (gave the gold to my wife).
Anyway, the wife was becoming intolerable with her asking me to play with her again. I finally cracked and we both rolled on a new server as Blood Elves.
It's entertaining still, although I have no plans to develop my character and 'gear him up' to a high standard, it's just something to do whilst waiting for AoC and to keep the missus quiet!
The starting areas on the server we chose are very quiet, we've only seen maybe 10 other players from level 1 to 16. I doubt very much that WoW is 'dying' as stated by the OP, but certainly people leave, people start new and people return.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I wrote to Blizzaed a while ago to see if anyone there cared that some of us could nolonger sink so much of their lives into Wow as RL had finally found us.
My point was.. having levelled more than one toon to the cap (as was then) I was basically redundant. Unless I simply levelled more new characters.
But why was I redundant?
Because I could nolonger give WOW the time to group or raid. I needed to know if they were planning some content for former hardcore players who had been forced to become casual players. I am sure there were thousands of us, who had started at the beginning of WOW but who didnt have the time anymore (Work ,life relationships etc).
It should have been important (I felt) to Blizzard to take account of the players who were "growing up" by giving us some crumbs.
Sadly, but not surprisingly I await there reply, long after I quite wow, as 20 minutes here and there just doesn't work in the World of Warcraft.
Anyone else grown up with Wow who wanted to continue but couldn't give it the time, feel Blizzard could have kept us withou too much effort?
"and maybe you've been seeing is a lot lately, but people have been complaining about WoW regardless of the reasons."
Yeah, i have been seeing alot of pointless threads lately.
edit: OP is trolling the WoW forums.
I do sometimes wonder if people like the OP really do live in the real world.
Yes, WoW is dying. That is why it's market share compared to other MMO's is still not just the biggest market share but completely dwarves any of it's opposition, that is why new servers are still being added to the game, that's why Burning Crusade was one of the fastest selling games in history and why they're now investing in adding teamspeak to the game itself.
If WoW is 'dying' with the number of subscribers it has, i'm sure every other MMO out there wishes it was 'dying' in the same way and was pulling in over a bi annual period the same profits WoW is pulling in on a monthly basis.
Now, stop making wild and totally unfounded claims and actually do some research on market figures before posting garbage like this in future.
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What a load of Twaddle !
For goodness sake its WoW that has moved the industry along in the first place !! I not a massive WoW fan but I know how influential it has been in moving the industry forward ! 
Wouldnt surprise me if they do a complete overhaul in several areas eg pvp, a better mass battle system like sieges etc to compete with any upcomming competitors. Blizz arnt stupid, im sure they are aware the game is STILL a grindfest. Millions of subscribers, obviously alot of people are happy thou.
Also with the anouncement on the 19th of a new next-gen game (id say startcraft mmo to appease the sci fi fans, especially as a fair few sci fi games are coming out in the next couple of years. Just like wow, starcraft has its own massive community.
I can see wow growing even more in the next couple of years.
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WoW pushed the envelope in one, and only one area; They proved that with enough marketing and hype, you could sell anything, no matter how long the idea has been around, you just have to put it into a nice package. Through the combination of ignorance and sheer stupidity, if you put enough flash into something, it will sell regardless. And unfortunatly every other major gaming company is fallowing them, why think up something new when you can spend half as much marketing something old to people who don't know any better?
WoW is not a horrible game, but its nothing new either. Why people hate it so much is simple; It's been so successfull that its really put a stop an innovation in general; No one wants to take the risk anymore, WoW proved that you can go with old, tried and true ideas and make a ton of money anyway.
Hey if you love WoW, thats great, but when you eventually get bored of it you will be in the same position as the rest of us are in; No matter what game you choose, your playing the same game over and over again with diffrent graphics. It's hurt the genre so much in terms of progression. I would say that eventually MMO's might start innovating again after EVERYONE playing now gets bored, but hell by then there will be a whole new crop of potential MMO customers, let the rehashing begin.
Im actually hoping mmo's will hit consoles soon; Its pretty obvious that the Genre on the PC is taking 2 steps back for every 1 step it takes forward.
What a load of Twaddle ! For goodness sake its WoW that has moved the industry along in the first place !! I not a massive WoW fan but I know how influential it has been in moving the industry forward !
GFT, the more people that actually realise this and strop being haters, then they may actually move on instead of constatly hating. I know lest hate progression from the wheel to the plane to computers, infact lets all go back to the commodore 64 and have 2 hour loading screns, yep thats the way forward imo. Back to rainbow coloured loading screens.
I agree, people do move on from game to game, sometimes they go back as well.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
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So what your saying is, my made up numbers don't make sense? I wonder if thats because of the fact that I obviously made them up, stated that I made them up, and also stated that they are exaggerated.
Ill simplify it for you incase you still don't get it. I made the numbers up, they are pretend numbers. I didn't take any factual evidence into account like the character limits, or the plausability of the situation. The numbers I stated were that on 100 pretend servers, 100 different pretend players, each with a different pretend account quit. The pretend person who was just used as part of the example also had 100 pretend accounts and closed all of the pretend accounts as part of this mass quit. The numbers posted were for ease of use, and were not made to take into the account the fact someone obviously isnt going to have around 10,000 friends on 100 different servers.
Then these exaggerated pretend numbers were used to show a "worst case scenario" which is also not real. The fake numbers then showed that even in incredbile circumstances with such a mass quit, the playerbase as a whole wouldn't be dented. If you still don't understand that my numbers are fake and therefore will not conform to super accurate real world standards and limits imposed by Blizzard, then your obviously not reading my posts.
The entire point of my post, which you have missed ttwice now because your not reading or understanding my posts is the following:
Even with flawed numbers, ones that are obviously exaggerated and flawed to make a "worst case scenario" there is still no impact on World of Warcrafts playerbase. My example was meant to be purposely flawed, it has no real data in it, and the numbers were pulled out of my ass to illustrate a point.
You remind me of the kind of person that writes into cartoon animators to point out flaws in their animations.
Just incase you miss the point again, Ive made a point of underlining the key text, and also putting it in bold for that extra noticibility.
I know that WoW really brought the MMO market to what it is today, but honestly I think it caused all of the other developers to narrow their directions. I mean how many boring uninspired WoW clones have you played lately? Aren't you ready to move on? I want developers to try something completely new, or something at least exciting. Instead of just re-skinning WoW over and over.
To Blizzard: I'll take Diablo 3, or Starcraft MMO now please.
Haha. That'd be overpowered me thinks.
My blog:
Most of WoW's sucess comes from positive world of mouth not from this mythical hype/marketing machine every 1 blabs about.
There are better ways to make money and that's called making a better game, not throwing money at useless trading card games or trying to make deals with banks, the way I see it, deals like this make the developers lose respectability not only from the games industry but from the game itself, World of Warcraft isn't a game anymore, it's just a franchise and the MMORPG is a part of it, there are other games out there that get along just fine without these ridiculous marketing schemes. Half Life 2 is a perfect example, valve, instead of making off with the cash they got from half life 1, decided to go ahead and create an entire new game engine for half life 2 this made it even more popular than ever and they did it all without the crazy marketing Blizzard tried not only that, they topped it off by releasing a good quality game that people enjoyed as much as the original.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
yea, guess its true that the tsunami sized revolution created by wow iz coming to an end , though it is sad , it cannot be helped .
the emergence of a number of games which are of the same cadre or may be more innovative is da only reason for this.
wow wz gr8 to play for a certain time period , after which it felt like a regular routine . plus da cost factor is to blaME.
there are a number of mmo's which are more innovative and cheaper !!!!!
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So many people only see what they want to. He wasnt complaining that they made money, his point, as was the original poster's point, is that since WoW came out, there havent been any fresh ideas in the MMO world. Its the same basic outline with a different set of graphics.
Gamers are tired of dwarves and ogres.
I like WoW and I have played it from the day it came out (part of that SWG crowd mentioned). But honestly, coming from SWG, I knew WoW would be a success-for one reason, it was EASY. The leveling was class based, the crafting is so simple a monkey (or a typical 9 year old console player) could do it. Not to take anything away from the game-the graphics were good, the game was polished (for the most part), there was end game content, constant content being added and it attracted alot of non MMO players. That is a good thing. The more people playing the games, the more devs will want to create the next best thing. Unfortunetly, what is happeng is they are creating the next best WoW clone.
Look at all the talk around PotBS and AOC. They are the perfect points for the arguments in these posts. People are looking at PotBS for the simple fact it is not a fantasy based MMO and AOC because of the 'new' combat style. Both of these games have the potential to shake things up a bit and I think we are all looking forward to that.
Dont instantly flame or mock a person posting, especially when they have a valid point. I hope Blizzard makes so much damn money that they risk a chunk of it and try to out do themselves! Take all the good things that WoW has and E X P A N D the MMO game experience far beyond what it is now. Add some complexity, let people customize their characters again. (OK- raise your hand if you have bumped into your twin in a major city in WoW
) Lets make player crafted items actually worth something and not just the 'potions', (one of the few good points of LotR). Lets add some skill based leveling, hybrid classes, customeizable templates, make it a virtual world again, not a cloning, get my gear and gank you factory!
Just my two cents, (and dont ask for change, two cents is all I got
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Anyway, I did read your post but just felt that I would put in my $0.02 worth based on my experience in the tech industry. In a company as structured as Blizzard, the marketing programs are dreamed upped in entirely different part of the building. So I wouldn't worry about them wasting resources on marketing for any of those who think it could occur. In todays world, having a company CC is not big deal, I'm only surprised that it took someone this long to do it...