I bought the game, leveld a Champion to Lv15 the first day (some +8h), got bored.
Next day, i took out a hunter and leveld that to Lv12, got bored.
But hey, i cant pay this much for just playing 2 days.
So my first char is now Lv21, my second is Lv18 and then i have an additional 4 characters between Lv 2 and 12.
But sry, this game isnt all that, i believe people giving this game a much to high ranking just because "Something must kick WoW off the throne"
Hey, dont get me wrong, the game looks great.
Its nice graphics and so, but imo it' s too much details.
Its great that they have made a MMORPG with close to Oblivion-standard on graphics.
But im boooooooored with it, it is nothing new about it, nothing special at all.
Everything in this game has been done before and better.
The only thing that is better is graphics, but id rather play a fun low-graph game than this.
For some, this game is great, for som it isnt.
For me it isnt.
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If you dont understand what i write, ask a damn question instead of going into autoflaming-mode. And dont read in stuff between the lines, i say what i mean.
I'm lvl 31, having played since European early access...
If you played every day, 3-4 hours a day, it would be easy to hit lvl 50.....But I don't, I play 2/3 nights during the week, maybe 2-3hrs a time, then some time at weekends but not a huge amount.
And I think the game is great...but if you're a power-leveller, or a raider in wow...then probably not.
-doesnt require you to be rooted to your PC for 8 hours a day,proper pick up and play style
-plenty of quest content,probably the most ive seen in any MMO per level with many quests having a good story line and immersion
-enjoyable gameplay
-traits system is good
-friendly community with very little l33t kiddies or elitist 30 something men
-no real loot greed/epix fever
bad points:
-very limited armor designs especially light armor
-human facial customization is limited
-some human NPCs and some hobbit NPCs carbon copies of each other
-auction house is annoying
-/who function needs work
-traits system could add more customization in some areas
-monsterplay is a little imbalanced toward freeps;what happens when the more regular raid guilds get the better items?
-not a choice of levelling zones (though this will soon change of course)
Im enjoying the game,but whether ill want to make an alt and re-level im not sure. The game has 'potential' (hate that word..) but theres just not enough to hold my interest long term. im worried that in another month ill have hit level cap and have nothing to do except carry on spending time in ettinmoors,buffing up my monsters with uncertainty that after freeps start getting raid items ill get slaughtered anyway.
The monsterplay needs work to balance it out properly,the creeps dont have enough healing support IMO compared to the freeps e.g captains,loremasters and minstrels (the monster play is a great feature though,it actually feels like a proper battle like alterac valley x2)
Im looking forward to see what they do in 6 months or so,when a lot more content has been added and the possibility that work has been done to MvP and crafting.That I think would make the game fantastic,a choice of levelling zones,lots of hard to get,hard to craft recipes and monster players having access to more skills through rank and destiny points.
the June update will tell the tale of how well and how much content will be added though,so im looking forward to that.
Its good enough for now though,considering the other choices there are at this time..
Seems to me the whole "debate" here is just a difference in playstyles. [Somebody link to Bartle test, please]
If you Bartle achiever or killer highest, LOTRO is not a good game for you.
If you Bartle explorer highest, it is worth a look. I can't understand how people claim that the game is linear and the world is too small. My wife and I run all over just exploring/looking for nodes to mine between/while doing quests, and we have explored no more than 80% of Bree, 30% of the Lone Lands, and 10% of the Shire.
If you Bartle Socializer highest, then LOTRO is great for you -then again, any chatroom is, too!
Seems to me the whole "debate" here is just a difference in playstyles. [Somebody link to Bartle test, please] If you Bartle achiever or killer highest, LOTRO is not a good game for you. If you Bartle explorer highest, it is worth a look. I can't understand how people claim that the game is linear and the world is too small. My wife and I run all over just exploring/looking for nodes to mine between/while doing quests, and we have explored no more than 80% of Bree, 30% of the Lone Lands, and 10% of the Shire. If you Bartle Socializer highest, then LOTRO is great for you -then again, any chatroom is, too!
Thats a really good way of summing it up. The game does fit a certain playstyle...
To be honest, although I'm enjoying the game a whole load, I will probably pick up either AOC or WAR as well. I might drift away from it if I complete/finish the content, but will always come back for the expansions as the game itself is great fun....
To me its all a matter of content, if I finish the content, then I'll look elsewhere, if not, then I'll play.
So it is now a common practice to release game with no end content and tell players that well give us 1 - 2 years to get back to you on that. It is that kind of thinking causes downfall of a lot of new MMOs that come out. If I pay $60 for the product, and then additional $15 a month to play it, why do I have to wait for a year for them to come up with end game content.
People can say what they want about WoW (I hate the damn thing), but they had a decent amount of high level content from day one, and more was added shortly there after. That means that there was a rush to push LOTR out the door, the game was not fully developed and that is the end of it. One can say, that well that is the case for 99% of the MMOs released but why should we (as players) accept this fact and spend our money onto incomplete products.
Uhh, no WoW didn't. No PVP ranking, No BGs, NO Dire Maul. No MC, NO BWL, NO ZG, NO Naxx. Heck no Mauradon on release. So what did they have. They had Scholo, UBRS, LBRS, Stratholme. That was the "endgame" when WoW released. So 4 whole dungeons. Not much more then LOTRO.
I think you are mistaken. I believe that MC was in the game at release. It's mentioned in the 1.02 patch notes that were released about a month after release that something was fixed in MC. Also I believe you are forgetting Onyxia who I think was also part of the original release since I can find no reference to it being implemented in a patch. And you're forgetting that WoW had true PvP from the start, not PvMP which is a big difference from what LOTRO has. I tried LOTRO in beta and I got the same feeling, it's a nice game but there's not nearly as much content as there is in WoW.
In WOW I would play, Id say 17 hour stints or more when getting to 60 in 5 days after i got good at it. But, theres no way I could have done that in the beginning.. after about 6 L 60's you get good at quest orders :P
World of Warcraft was the absolute easiest game to level in of any game that i have ever played. My first level 60 hit it in 8 days played. When I hit 60 I had 300 lockpicking, 300 FA, 315 Gnomish engineering, and 300 Elemental Leatherworking as well. I never ever ever played 17 hours in a day. I have never played an MMO game for 17 hours in a day. I did play Sim City when i was in middle school for 2 days straight pretty much on the SNES. I also played Super Mario Bros for like 2 days straight to beat it when i was a kid as well. But that wasn't the point. My point is that while you think people will breeze through the levels I think you are underestimating how long it will take. My last 60 on WoW took me 4.5 days played to do ( I only leveled 3 guys to 60 total and the last one was my first horde to 60) I play LOTRO 2-6 hours per night at least 5-6 nights per week. My Captain is level 38. I took some time out to help my wife and RL friend level and so i didn't level much for about 1 week while helping them catch up. But even taking that time out I would only be around 40ish. So that is why I find it hard to believe that you can honestly say that you didn't play the game "hardcore" unless you have a twisted idea of what "hardcore" is. Now keep in mind that the Medical community would recommend no more then 1 hour per day.
Here's where I get to call BS on you. There's no way you hit 60 in 8 days unless you were playing 24x7. Now, if you mean you hit 60 with 8 days worth of playtime, I'll believe that, but even that is quite an accomplishment since I think the fastest I hit 60 with any of my 5 level 60's was in like 12 days of gameplay. I had a buddy who did it in 9 days and that was while playing the entire way with rest. Whenever his rest ran out he would put the character up for a couple days and not play it to get the rest back. And that was only after he had played 7 other characters to 60 so he knew every quest like the back of his hand, so I can't imagine how your first level 60 was able to do it in 8 days, not knowing the quests and all. Just for some more comparison, I played in the beta test contest where they were giving away a free expansion beta slot to the first 1000 people to hit 50 on the test servers and you had about 30 days to do it. There were only about 50 players that made it to 50 in the 30 days. Now, that's not playtime, that's real time, but 8 days of playtime is 192 total hours. If you split that up by 30 days, that's a little over 6 hours a day every single day to get to 50, let alone 60 which is probably another 50 hours or so. And again this was done by people who had obviously played a bunch already and knew all the quests to drop because they were time consuming and so forth. So, did you mean 8 days worth of playtime? And since I'm assuming you did, how many actual days was this? I'll bet it was a hell of lot more than 3 weeks.
I have said it before to friends and i will prolly say if forever. The MMO genre would be a much better place if Micro$oft spent some cash advertising the heck out of AC1. Then it would of been number 1 instead of EQ and we would all be playing AC1 clones. And be much better off.
Cabe,
You blew my mind with that. And I agree 100%
If there was more AC DNA in the MMO gene pool- the games would be VERY different today:)
Here's where I get to call BS on you. There's no way you hit 60 in 8 days unless you were playing 24x7. Now, if you mean you hit 60 with 8 days worth of playtime, I'll believe that, but even that is quite an accomplishment since I think the fastest I hit 60 with any of my 5 level 60's was in like 12 days of gameplay. I had a buddy who did it in 9 days and that was while playing the entire way with rest. Whenever his rest ran out he would put the character up for a couple days and not play it to get the rest back. And that was only after he had played 7 other characters to 60 so he knew every quest like the back of his hand, so I can't imagine how your first level 60 was able to do it in 8 days, not knowing the quests and all. Just for some more comparison, I played in the beta test contest where they were giving away a free expansion beta slot to the first 1000 people to hit 50 on the test servers and you had about 30 days to do it. There were only about 50 players that made it to 50 in the 30 days. Now, that's not playtime, that's real time, but 8 days of playtime is 192 total hours. If you split that up by 30 days, that's a little over 6 hours a day every single day to get to 50, let alone 60 which is probably another 50 hours or so. And again this was done by people who had obviously played a bunch already and knew all the quests to drop because they were time consuming and so forth. So, did you mean 8 days worth of playtime? And since I'm assuming you did, how many actual days was this? I'll bet it was a hell of lot more than 3 weeks.
I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
I have to agree with many of the comments on the problems with LOTRO, especially the "linear only" part and the crappy itemization ( not to mention the broken tradeskills..) I picked this game up as a diversion until the next EQ2 expansion came out, but even playing very casually on two characters, I don't think it is going to last that long. The replay factor is a major issue - sure I could make alts - but why bother? So I can do all the same quests, in the same order, in the same zone, for the same items all over again? No thanks. Unlike EQ2 and other games, it is just too shallow for any really long term playability. Once you have done one character to max level, there is basically nothing new you can see or do. In EQ2 I could have 5 characters, and get them all to 60 and almost never do the same zones or same quests, and even at 61-70 there is much more diversity. For all it's polish and lack of bugs, LOTRO is a mile wide and an inch deep. I will play it for a while longer - my main is only mid-30 and my secondary crafter about half that, but I certainly cannot see this being any kind of long term commitment like EQ or EQ2 was. As someone noted, this is very much like a single player game in an MMO setting.
Once again why compare it to a game that is 3 years old or 7ish years old? Of course it will have less to do. The same could be said for EQ2 when it was launched. Heck the same could be said for EQ1 if there had been anything really to compare it to.
What do people expect? Do they expect the game to launch with 3-5 years worth of content? A game with that much content would need to be in the development cycle for more then 5 years and would cost probably closer to 100 million dollars to make, if not more.
Turbine instead is looking at the long term. Just as they did with AC1. They are adding content that the majority of their users can take part in. In AC1 they did this by correctly aiming content where the user base was at. They would have both high level content on ac1 and lower level content. 1-2 months after AC1 launched they weren't working on level 100+ content. There was no reason at all. Level 30ish players were Gods at that time. So the same thing is happening here. They are putting in a small amount of content for higher levels ( a raid instance) knowing that note many are at that level range yet, but are adding a bunch of content at the level 27-40 range (which i am sure they know is where most of the player base is expected to be in June).
And I will say this, back in 1999 when EQ launched it had enough content to keep someone leveling WAY past 3 weeks. It wasnt about the end game in EQ because it took a really REALLY long time to get there. The problem with LOTRO is that it doesnt take long to reach max, and when you get there there is nothing to do. So please stop saying that the comparison is off, because it's not. Even when WoW launched it took people forever to level to max because it was all new and there was so much to do. The issue with LOTRO is that it is so linear that EVERYONE only has one path to choose and it leads them to max level relatively fast.
I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
You LOTRO zealots need to shush. A lot of people do not like this game. You're going to see plenty of threads like this, because LOTRO is not a good game. Get over it.
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I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
_________________________________ "Fixed it. Because that wall of text attacked me, killed me and looted my body..." -George "sniperg" Light
I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
I don't really care if you believe me about the WOW... The really good people could pull off L 60 in 4 days /played.
This thread is supposed to be about LOTRO.. WOW was great fun for the first year, then for me it turned into an elitist prick grind fest.. which is exactly what I didn't want to see in LOTRO.
However LOTRO has its own problems, and so little content I have no more need to play...
I am just very upset they didn;t put much into the end game as the 6 man raiding thing was fun while it lasted.
In WOW there were reasons to go back to Scholo and such, to get your sets, the itemization is so bad in LOTRO there is no reason to go back into these instances at all.
The only quest that requires you to go back into them is your L 45 quest, and though the rewards are light blue, they are total crap compared with what you get from far easier quests.
For instance, my light blue axe from my L 45 quest was 2 DPS less than a drop I got off a mob in Carn Dum.
I am sorry but people want to play to improve their characters.
There is nothing left in LOTRO for me to improve my Champion.
If you are just playing LOTRO to read the story then fine, but you'll get bored like me once you've read and done it all. Just ain't enough imo.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
Pappy - even though kaydinv is being quite an abrasive ass, probably just trying to start a flaming war - his stating that he played 12hrs a day for 10 days straight is not that unbelievible. During summer break, I often play for 12-16 hrs a day for a few days in a row. Then, I give it a rest for a few days. If the game is addicting enough, I'll go back, if not, I'll have gotten it out of my system
If he really works in QA, then he has definitely "played" 12hrs a day for days at a time - I've seen, or rather, not seen, my brother in law do that as a QA playtester[then head of QA]. If he claims to do this and be playing LOTRO or anything else for 12hrs a day at the same time...well, then I guess anyone with a basic knowledge of math and the number of hours in a day can see through that [ooh, maybe it's "metric" hours? Like Bob & Doug's "metric beers"]
Nobody is claiming to be playing 2 games 12 hours a day for an extended period of time, especially not me. It is possible to play 1 game that much though, and is done fairly often in the QA field which is enough to bunk his worthless arguement.
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You rush through the content and then somehow get a feeling of emptiness inside. Do you think that empty feeling may come from not going outside of the game every once and a while?
Turbine is notorious for putting out monthly additions and updates to their games. It's almost their trademark practice. So there will be new content coming out soon.
But if you sat at your computer long enough to finish up LotRO in 3 weeks then I suspect that hollow feeling is coming from somewhere that the game just can't fix. Go to the gym, pick up a sport like bike riding or something, go fishing. Those things revitalize your brain and are necessary for happiness.
You rush through the content and then somehow get a feeling of emptiness inside. Do you think that empty feeling may come from not going outside of the game every once and a while?
Turbine is notorious for putting out monthly additions and updates to their games. It's almost their trademark practice. So there will be new content coming out soon.
But if you sat at your computer long enough to finish up LotRO in 3 weeks then I suspect that hollow feeling is coming from somewhere that the game just can't fix. Go to the gym, pick up a sport like bike riding or something, go fishing. Those things revitalize your brain and are necessary for happiness.
No, it is just a game, not my life.. I didn't have a feeling of emptiness, I had a feeling of boredom, and disappointment at how broken the game is after L 35. I was really hoping for a game that did something right with end game, unlike WOW and it's insane grind 40 man raids.
Don't try to turn this post into more than it is, a post about a game.
I think the psychology forums are www.drphil.com hehe
FTR I just bought a new Gary Fisher.. been mountain bike racing since I was 16
A person needs a way to just chill, like read a book or video game. I love being the best at video games, just like a speed read novels.. just my personality I guess.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
You rush through the content and then somehow get a feeling of emptiness inside. Do you think that empty feeling may come from not going outside of the game every once and a while?
Turbine is notorious for putting out monthly additions and updates to their games. It's almost their trademark practice. So there will be new content coming out soon.
But if you sat at your computer long enough to finish up LotRO in 3 weeks then I suspect that hollow feeling is coming from somewhere that the game just can't fix. Go to the gym, pick up a sport like bike riding or something, go fishing. Those things revitalize your brain and are necessary for happiness.
No, it is just a game, not my life.. I didn't have a feeling of emptiness, I had a feeling of boredom, and disappointment at how broken the game is after L 35. I was really hoping for a game that did something right with end game, unlike WOW and it's insane grind 40 man raids.
Don't try to turn this post into more than it is, a post about a game.
I think the psychology forums are www.drphil.com hehe
FTR I just bought a new Gary Fisher.. been mountain bike racing since I was 16
A person needs a way to just chill, like read a book or video game. I love being the best at video games, just like a speed read novels.. just my personality I guess.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I just went back and read what I wrote. I don't like it when I read something and realize I was mean. I feel bad now.
You were right, it's just not your type of game. I shouldn't have jumped on you like I did.
Pappy - even though kaydinv is being quite an abrasive ass, probably just trying to start a flaming war - his stating that he played 12hrs a day for 10 days straight is not that unbelievible. During summer break, I often play for 12-16 hrs a day for a few days in a row. Then, I give it a rest for a few days. If the game is addicting enough, I'll go back, if not, I'll have gotten it out of my system
If he really works in QA, then he has definitely "played" 12hrs a day for days at a time - I've seen, or rather, not seen, my brother in law do that as a QA playtester[then head of QA]. If he claims to do this and be playing LOTRO or anything else for 12hrs a day at the same time...well, then I guess anyone with a basic knowledge of math and the number of hours in a day can see through that [ooh, maybe it's "metric" hours? Like Bob & Doug's "metric beers"]
Well when I said unbelievable I didn't mean that I didn't believe he could do it (I even said it wasn't impossible), more like "WoW, that's pretty amazing", so maybe it was a poor choice of words. Still 12 hours a day for a couple days straight is one thing, but for 10 days straight? And even if you did play that much, I would think it would start to effect your play quite a bit and your level progession would tail off quite a bit. I've heard a lot of talk about how so in so can go from 1 to 60 in 4 or 5 days of play time, but everytime I've asked for proof I haven't gotten any. That doesn't mean they were wrong, only that they couldn't prove it. I know I've made comments about how fast I've done something before and honestly thought I was stating facts, but then after going back to check it, realized it wasn't quite what I thought. But hey, I've been asked a couple times to shut up now, so I will.
I still think LotRO is like a Star Trek movie - great if you like Star Trek but otherwise unremarkable and even hard to take. If you consider the LotR movies it is not a stretch to argue that they are great movies for anyone, not just fans. If you like movies you should appreciate the LotR movies. But unlike the LotR movies LotRO is not a great game, it is just a good LotR game - big difference. Like I said above, as much as I have enjoyed all of the Star Trek movies I can understand fully how most moviegoers would not like them at all, and LotRO is the same in that it may be a good LotR game but it just isn''t very noteworthy as a game itself, or MMO. Take away the IP LotR and LotRO would be absolutely unremarkable as a game, an MMO, or anything in between.
No worries guys its all good.. if you want to see proof of someone (not me) leveling fast in WOW(I used to take screens myself but I deleted everything that was WOW months ago) check out www.joanasworld.com
Someones even leveled faster in WOW I think 4 days.
Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan
Alright, that seems legit enough, but even his best time is 4 days 20 hours and he's apparently had lots and lots of practice to perfect this. And I'm not the only one that find this hard to believe either. It's also funny that I don't remember him in the beta. I wish I could see what day it was when he hit 50 because I don't remember anyone getting to 50 in less than about 3 weeks. And the screens shots showing him the first to 60 or whatever don't hold a lot of water since I'm pretty sure that only shows you people who are logged in at the time. How would he know if someone was ahead of him, but just not logged in? It's probably safe to assume that he checks often enough that he would know, it's just that a screenshot of /who doesn't really tell you much.
I did notice that he says he only does this for the Horde side. I wonder why that is because I mostly only play Alliance and I've always assumed that it would take about the same time for both Horde and Alliance to get to 60. Maybe that's a bad assumption and the Horde have an advantage. I've never liked the barrens because I spent too much time there, but it might be perfect for speed leveling. I wonder if he's done this on the Alliance side and what his record is.
Alright, that seems legit enough, but even his best time is 4 days 20 hours and he's apparently had lots and lots of practice to perfect this. And I'm not the only one that find this hard to believe either. It's also funny that I don't remember him in the beta. I wish I could see what day it was when he hit 50 because I don't remember anyone getting to 50 in less than about 3 weeks. And the screens shots showing him the first to 60 or whatever don't hold a lot of water since I'm pretty sure that only shows you people who are logged in at the time. How would he know if someone was ahead of him, but just not logged in? It's probably safe to assume that he checks often enough that he would know, it's just that a screenshot of /who doesn't really tell you much. I did notice that he says he only does this for the Horde side. I wonder why that is because I mostly only play Alliance and I've always assumed that it would take about the same time for both Horde and Alliance to get to 60. Maybe that's a bad assumption and the Horde have an advantage. I've never liked the barrens because I spent too much time there, but it might be perfect for speed leveling. I wonder if he's done this on the Alliance side and what his record is.
There's a similar guide for Alliance, Jonana was very well known like a year ago, He pretty much quit leveling 60's though I believe and just did his 60-70 guide.
Every single quest is mapped out, you may not believe it but if you do quests in certain order you level insanely fast.
Just do a search on WOW forums for him I'm sure his name will pop up everywhere.
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Next day, i took out a hunter and leveld that to Lv12, got bored.
But hey, i cant pay this much for just playing 2 days.
So my first char is now Lv21, my second is Lv18 and then i have an additional 4 characters between Lv 2 and 12.
But sry, this game isnt all that, i believe people giving this game a much to high ranking just because "Something must kick WoW off the throne"
Hey, dont get me wrong, the game looks great.
Its nice graphics and so, but imo it' s too much details.
Its great that they have made a MMORPG with close to Oblivion-standard on graphics.
But im boooooooored with it, it is nothing new about it, nothing special at all.
Everything in this game has been done before and better.
The only thing that is better is graphics, but id rather play a fun low-graph game than this.
For some, this game is great, for som it isnt.
For me it isnt.
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And dont read in stuff between the lines, i say what i mean.
I'm lvl 31, having played since European early access...
If you played every day, 3-4 hours a day, it would be easy to hit lvl 50.....But I don't, I play 2/3 nights during the week, maybe 2-3hrs a time, then some time at weekends but not a huge amount.
And I think the game is great...but if you're a power-leveller, or a raider in wow...then probably not.
im level 30,playing since 3rd may.
good points:
-beautiful graphics and scenery
-doesnt require you to be rooted to your PC for 8 hours a day,proper pick up and play style
-plenty of quest content,probably the most ive seen in any MMO per level with many quests having a good story line and immersion
-enjoyable gameplay
-traits system is good
-friendly community with very little l33t kiddies or elitist 30 something men
-no real loot greed/epix fever
bad points:
-very limited armor designs especially light armor
-human facial customization is limited
-some human NPCs and some hobbit NPCs carbon copies of each other
-auction house is annoying
-/who function needs work
-traits system could add more customization in some areas
-monsterplay is a little imbalanced toward freeps;what happens when the more regular raid guilds get the better items?
-not a choice of levelling zones (though this will soon change of course)
Im enjoying the game,but whether ill want to make an alt and re-level im not sure. The game has 'potential' (hate that word..) but theres just not enough to hold my interest long term. im worried that in another month ill have hit level cap and have nothing to do except carry on spending time in ettinmoors,buffing up my monsters with uncertainty that after freeps start getting raid items ill get slaughtered anyway.
The monsterplay needs work to balance it out properly,the creeps dont have enough healing support IMO compared to the freeps e.g captains,loremasters and minstrels (the monster play is a great feature though,it actually feels like a proper battle like alterac valley x2)
Im looking forward to see what they do in 6 months or so,when a lot more content has been added and the possibility that work has been done to MvP and crafting.That I think would make the game fantastic,a choice of levelling zones,lots of hard to get,hard to craft recipes and monster players having access to more skills through rank and destiny points.
the June update will tell the tale of how well and how much content will be added though,so im looking forward to that.
Its good enough for now though,considering the other choices there are at this time..
Normally I rush to hit the level cap, and then start raiding/farming instances with my guild.
With LOTRO, I just take it easy. I feel no sense of urgency. There isn't much content available yet for higher level characters, and I
knew that when I bought the game. I was in Closed Beta and I told all fo my friends to take it slow, or don't bother buying the game.
I know that there are plenty of people that want to play 3+ hours per day, but I don't any more.
LOTRO is more for people that like to sit around and play music or farm. It isn't EQ2, Vangaurd or WoW.
Seems to me the whole "debate" here is just a difference in playstyles. [Somebody link to Bartle test, please]
If you Bartle achiever or killer highest, LOTRO is not a good game for you.
If you Bartle explorer highest, it is worth a look. I can't understand how people claim that the game is linear and the world is too small. My wife and I run all over just exploring/looking for nodes to mine between/while doing quests, and we have explored no more than 80% of Bree, 30% of the Lone Lands, and 10% of the Shire.
If you Bartle Socializer highest, then LOTRO is great for you -then again, any chatroom is, too!
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Thats a really good way of summing it up. The game does fit a certain playstyle...
To be honest, although I'm enjoying the game a whole load, I will probably pick up either AOC or WAR as well. I might drift away from it if I complete/finish the content, but will always come back for the expansions as the game itself is great fun....
To me its all a matter of content, if I finish the content, then I'll look elsewhere, if not, then I'll play.
I think you are mistaken. I believe that MC was in the game at release. It's mentioned in the 1.02 patch notes that were released about a month after release that something was fixed in MC. Also I believe you are forgetting Onyxia who I think was also part of the original release since I can find no reference to it being implemented in a patch. And you're forgetting that WoW had true PvP from the start, not PvMP which is a big difference from what LOTRO has. I tried LOTRO in beta and I got the same feeling, it's a nice game but there's not nearly as much content as there is in WoW.
https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/
You blew my mind with that. And I agree 100%
If there was more AC DNA in the MMO gene pool- the games would be VERY different today:)
I think you are kinda missing the boat on this one... I am sure he meant 8 days /played, not 8 real days... though for your first character, getting 60 in 8 days /played is still pretty amazing.
I have hit 60 in 5 1/2 days /played
I have hit 60 in 1.5 weeks real time
Anyways stop jacking my thread for WOW comparisons!
You can level to 40 in LOTRO in about 4 days getting power leveled. 40-50 is harder unless you have a group of people helping you.
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What do people expect? Do they expect the game to launch with 3-5 years worth of content? A game with that much content would need to be in the development cycle for more then 5 years and would cost probably closer to 100 million dollars to make, if not more.
Turbine instead is looking at the long term. Just as they did with AC1. They are adding content that the majority of their users can take part in. In AC1 they did this by correctly aiming content where the user base was at. They would have both high level content on ac1 and lower level content. 1-2 months after AC1 launched they weren't working on level 100+ content. There was no reason at all. Level 30ish players were Gods at that time.
And I will say this, back in 1999 when EQ launched it had enough content to keep someone leveling WAY past 3 weeks. It wasnt about the end game in EQ because it took a really REALLY long time to get there. The problem with LOTRO is that it doesnt take long to reach max, and when you get there there is nothing to do. So please stop saying that the comparison is off, because it's not. Even when WoW launched it took people forever to level to max because it was all new and there was so much to do. The issue with LOTRO is that it is so linear that EVERYONE only has one path to choose and it leads them to max level relatively fast.
First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
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First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
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First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
I don't really care if you believe me about the WOW... The really good people could pull off L 60 in 4 days /played.
This thread is supposed to be about LOTRO.. WOW was great fun for the first year, then for me it turned into an elitist prick grind fest.. which is exactly what I didn't want to see in LOTRO.
However LOTRO has its own problems, and so little content I have no more need to play...
I am just very upset they didn;t put much into the end game as the 6 man raiding thing was fun while it lasted.
In WOW there were reasons to go back to Scholo and such, to get your sets, the itemization is so bad in LOTRO there is no reason to go back into these instances at all.
The only quest that requires you to go back into them is your L 45 quest, and though the rewards are light blue, they are total crap compared with what you get from far easier quests.
For instance, my light blue axe from my L 45 quest was 2 DPS less than a drop I got off a mob in Carn Dum.
I am sorry but people want to play to improve their characters.
There is nothing left in LOTRO for me to improve my Champion.
If you are just playing LOTRO to read the story then fine, but you'll get bored like me once you've read and done it all. Just ain't enough imo.
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First off, I didn't start the WoW comparisons, he brought it up and actually since your thread is basically about lack of content in LOTRO, I don't think a comparison to WoW is all that off topic.
So you say you made a character in 5 1/2 days gameplay and that was in 1.5 weeks (assuming it's the same character) then you were averaging around 12 hours per day for 10 & 1/2 days straight. That's pretty unbelievable. Have any evidence to back this claim up? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's pretty damn difficult to do. I once watched a video of a guy play 24 hours straight and by the time he was done he looked like he could have slept for about a week. No telling what 12 hours a day for 10 straight days would do to you.
I hate accusational ignorance, and thus, I hate you.
I have played games that I DON'T EVEN LIKE for 12 hours a day, a month straight because I'm in QA and we need to get a game out the door. A LOT of people do this at publishing pits and developer sites all around the U.S. and I can tell you, that it is not unbelievable at all.
So, please, stop pulling shit out of your ass. If you don't believe him, then stop talking to him you stubborn prick.
Pappy - even though kaydinv is being quite an abrasive ass, probably just trying to start a flaming war - his stating that he played 12hrs a day for 10 days straight is not that unbelievible. During summer break, I often play for 12-16 hrs a day for a few days in a row. Then, I give it a rest for a few days. If the game is addicting enough, I'll go back, if not, I'll have gotten it out of my system
If he really works in QA, then he has definitely "played" 12hrs a day for days at a time - I've seen, or rather, not seen, my brother in law do that as a QA playtester[then head of QA]. If he claims to do this and be playing LOTRO or anything else for 12hrs a day at the same time...well, then I guess anyone with a basic knowledge of math and the number of hours in a day can see through that [ooh, maybe it's "metric" hours? Like Bob & Doug's "metric beers"
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You rush through the content and then somehow get a feeling of emptiness inside. Do you think that empty feeling may come from not going outside of the game every once and a while?
Turbine is notorious for putting out monthly additions and updates to their games. It's almost their trademark practice. So there will be new content coming out soon.
But if you sat at your computer long enough to finish up LotRO in 3 weeks then I suspect that hollow feeling is coming from somewhere that the game just can't fix. Go to the gym, pick up a sport like bike riding or something, go fishing. Those things revitalize your brain and are necessary for happiness.
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No, it is just a game, not my life.. I didn't have a feeling of emptiness, I had a feeling of boredom, and disappointment at how broken the game is after L 35. I was really hoping for a game that did something right with end game, unlike WOW and it's insane grind 40 man raids.
Don't try to turn this post into more than it is, a post about a game.
I think the psychology forums are www.drphil.com hehe
FTR I just bought a new Gary Fisher.. been mountain bike racing since I was 16
A person needs a way to just chill, like read a book or video game. I love being the best at video games, just like a speed read novels.. just my personality I guess.
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No, it is just a game, not my life.. I didn't have a feeling of emptiness, I had a feeling of boredom, and disappointment at how broken the game is after L 35. I was really hoping for a game that did something right with end game, unlike WOW and it's insane grind 40 man raids.
Don't try to turn this post into more than it is, a post about a game.
I think the psychology forums are www.drphil.com hehe
FTR I just bought a new Gary Fisher.. been mountain bike racing since I was 16
A person needs a way to just chill, like read a book or video game. I love being the best at video games, just like a speed read novels.. just my personality I guess.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I just went back and read what I wrote. I don't like it when I read something and realize I was mean. I feel bad now.
You were right, it's just not your type of game. I shouldn't have jumped on you like I did.
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Someones even leveled faster in WOW I think 4 days.
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Alright, that seems legit enough, but even his best time is 4 days 20 hours and he's apparently had lots and lots of practice to perfect this. And I'm not the only one that find this hard to believe either. It's also funny that I don't remember him in the beta. I wish I could see what day it was when he hit 50 because I don't remember anyone getting to 50 in less than about 3 weeks. And the screens shots showing him the first to 60 or whatever don't hold a lot of water since I'm pretty sure that only shows you people who are logged in at the time. How would he know if someone was ahead of him, but just not logged in? It's probably safe to assume that he checks often enough that he would know, it's just that a screenshot of /who doesn't really tell you much.
I did notice that he says he only does this for the Horde side. I wonder why that is because I mostly only play Alliance and I've always assumed that it would take about the same time for both Horde and Alliance to get to 60. Maybe that's a bad assumption and the Horde have an advantage. I've never liked the barrens because I spent too much time there, but it might be perfect for speed leveling. I wonder if he's done this on the Alliance side and what his record is.
There's a similar guide for Alliance, Jonana was very well known like a year ago, He pretty much quit leveling 60's though I believe and just did his 60-70 guide.
Every single quest is mapped out, you may not believe it but if you do quests in certain order you level insanely fast.
Just do a search on WOW forums for him I'm sure his name will pop up everywhere.
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