You know, not once have I seen anyone refer to the "Immature" communities we see in MMO's to something other than teenagers.
So what? We're going to assume that all the caps happy, grammatically in-correct fools that cause us all grief are teenagers? A majority if not all of the teenagers I know that play MMO's are more mature than half of those over 18. Quite often, none of them even have a reason to voice their opinion, and are happy to just play the game.
Of course there are the obvious exceptions, but those exceptions apply to any category.
No, I think a lot of you have given the wrong perspective, kiddies will not "flock" to this game, those who are immature and get boned over the sight of digital jugs or a blood spray will. Not just teenagers.
/end rant.
P.S. Put Boobs in. Adds a sense of realism, and, I'd love to see the trouble it could cause to groups when their 40 year old basement dwelling priest loses focus.
If that M rating keeps even one parent from letting their little kid play the game its a victory. A sad one, but still a victory. I don't want little kids playing the game, and I am not talking teenagers, I am talking 13 and under for the most part. If it takes boobs to get the M rating or the attention to that Rating to make parents think twice, then we should only be able to make naked women characters.
And I know older people can be immature, I have seen that as well. But often there has been a time in game, when someone joins the group, they show up, bouncing around, not paying attenion, acting a fool, talking stupid in group chat. They join our teamspeak/ventrilo/whatever server and BLAM, well if isnt some little kid. I know its a kid, cause I hear them with the little mousy voice, and I ask how old are you? And I get an answer under 13. And usually, my Dad plays too, hes a level whatever, and hes on a raid doing whatever right now. Then I think to myself, great, even the runt's Dad won't play with him. Bastard.
And if boobs will help stem that problem, then I am all for it. And thats my rant. Not to mention, I am well adjusted to boobs in my life, and I used to consider myself a conoseur(sp?) of sorts. Then I got married, and though those boobs keep me happy, I had to swear off real access to all other boobs. So putting it in the game won't force me to play it, but it does add incentive.
And lastly, it truely has been a staple in the Sword and Sorcery genre since the beginning. And thats the model for this game, not Fantasy. There is a difference. And as I stated in my previous post, the American aversion to sexuality does find its roots in the Puritan movement that existed during the migration from Europe to America, and the early years of the colonies.
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I think that anything that keeps the kiddies away is a good thing. Too bad I'm sick of the fantasy genre MMOs. I'll look for some other type of MMO to play for a while before returning to fantasy again. - Phos
Well at least there is no elves!
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
I didn't read everything so not sure if this was said, but
AoC target audiance is the mature crowd. Any parent that lets a child (anyone under 16 IMO) play this game is purely bad parenting. Don't blame the company. Rather they should blame themselfs for being crappy parents.
I plan to let my kids look and hear everything. Why? It's life. You can't deny the existance of sexuallity, language, violence, brutality, or any harsh things in this world. When it comes down to it. It's human nature. We live to have sex. We live to feed. We live to kill. It is our nature! Deal with it! Denying it is just pure ignorance.
Only parents whining about this game is bible pushers (die!) and over-protective bad parents.
Expose one to fear and they shall learn to face fear. Hide one from fear and they shall fear always. This goes for MANY topics. Not just fear. Exposure is the key to advancement. The child growning up to be an immature pile of shit is the parents fault? Why? Because the parent needs to demonstrate what is right and what is wrong!
I never got it ethier, parents will let their children see people getting their eye's ripped out, people disembowled and even decapiatation but as soon as it comes to some breasts its ZOMG no. Imagine If they had vag jay jays and penors in the game.. people in the US wouldn't even sell it. I never understood people fear of the human body... I blame religion.
After fridays screenshot leaks there has been increasing amount of people whining they wont allow their kids to play with them if there was topless women running around... Hello!!!! ...you would let your kid play a game where you can chop off bodyparts from your enemies and where blood and gore is everywhere but if pair of breasts flash by it's an outrage? ...doublestandard much? I hope these people wont come to europe for family vacation...they would get eternal traumas from our streetcorner ads alone.
Parents who let their kids play this have no voice here. The game is rated "M" so unless your kid is 18+, they have no business in the game..Period!
And if they are, its the parents fault that their loudmouthed mama's boys will be ruining the game play for the Mature playerbase.
**WARNING**
If you have kids..Do NOT let them play AoC! They will ruin it for everyone else the first time they see boobs or a head cut off! They will go crying to you and in turn causing huge nerfs (aka WoW syndrome) that in turn causes the game to be "Kiddiefied" and eventually the Devs will give in and change the rating to "G" so all can play it!...
Second, your right. The whole 'we'll let our kids watch voilence, but NOT BOOBIES' thing is bullshit in this country. I'm glad to see AoC have nudity. But that basically guarantees it won't be sold in Walmart. (Ironically, you cant buy Mature rated games in Walmart, but you can buy the Conan DVD, which is full of sex, nudity, violence and gore.)
You can buy rated M games at Wal Mart its just that they make you flash an id lol which is good in a way but however dont go buying rap or metal cds at wal mart because they wont have the swears and you are better off listening to the radio
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It's because they are Elite, They spawn in pairs (mostly near the sea) and they hide their real level until you get close to them! They cast alteration spells and they stun male avatars!
After fridays screenshot leaks there has been increasing amount of people whining they wont allow their kids to play with them if there was topless women running around... Hello!!!! ...you would let your kid play a game where you can chop off bodyparts from your enemies and where blood and gore is everywhere but if pair of breasts flash by it's an outrage? ...doublestandard much? I hope these people wont come to europe for family vacation...they would get eternal traumas from our streetcorner ads alone.
Ha! This is so true. America is a country that is so very comfortable and accustomed to violence and murder, but heaven forbid you show boobs outside the evil internet or pay per view.
Typical American puritanical hypocrisy. I'm a girl so I don't look at boobs that much, some nice buns on half naked male npc's would be nice tho!!
Broomy, I have to ask, the curiosity is doing my nut in. What is it about men's bottoms that illicit the similar arousal in women as boobs do in men?
I imagine it's probably as hard to nail down as boobums, but perhaps you know. Personally, I imagine the generic male fascination with breasts has something to do with breast-feeding as a child, but what is it about a man' s rear-end that fires many a woman's sexuality? As a 'coin-bouncer' backside a sign of strength?
No disrespect intended at all, I'm honestly curious as hell about it.
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Well...this situation is kind of complicated for me...I am gay (not ashamed, but not the typical flaming gay either), and I am not particularly fond of breasts (for an obvious reason), but if I see them in a film (or game for this matter), I am not bothered or disgusted. Besides...its a fuc*ing animated character. (very well animated I must say) So, I signed up for beta, and hope I get picked, and if I see a topless chick, I will go up to her and ask her nicely to cover up, because children are playing the game, and the entire world revolves around little children.
*note* the last sentence WAS sarcasm...if you didn't notice.......
I am pro-Boobs. (not for the reason I like them, but the reason that they will keep little kids OUT.)
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I can see it now.......a party in AoC goes up to a group of topless, female warriors, and then half of the group goes AFK for about 7-8 minutes...........wonder what that was about?!
Well, nudity and sexuality are problems in The US... what can one expect from a country who's population largely believes the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, and that a guy named Noah saved every animal, fish and bird by storing them on a boat during a world wide flood. lol We're a silly, hypocritical bunch. As a parent of three young boys, my wife and I are open about sexuallity in an age appropriate manner and even have fine art in our home that depicts nudity. My kids are very well adjusted. I applaude FC for being true to the Conan lore and treating their players like the adults they should be.
It because they are prude American religious ass hats. These are the same people that think guns should be legal and helping the poor is wrong and war without good reason is ok. These people are bad bad people. They are evil. And I don't like them.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
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It because they are prude American religious ass hats. These are the same people that think guns should be legal and helping the poor is wrong and war without good reason is ok. These people are bad bad people. They are evil. And I don't like them.
There is nothing wrong with guns being legal. In towns where it is legal to carry firearms there is less crime. Helping the poor is fine as long as you don't use my money to do it. Theres always a good reason for war granted you may not want to hear it. I have nothing against boobs though bring them on
I love seeing people with no kids wax philosophical about what kind of parents they will be... I know when I was a kid I planned on eating Ice-cream for breakfast when I was grown, or maybe just a whole bowl of the marshmallows from the lucky charms, and watching nothing but cartoons all day long. Fortunately, we all grow up. One day you kids will grow up too and realize that there are things you want to shield your kids from... I'm willing to bet sexual content is pretty high on the list.
I am a big fan of boobs, huge fan in fact. Beyond that, I am a non-theist.... still looks like a game I will pass on. The nudity is unnecessarily limiting to the game's potential audience. If Funcom believes it is worth alienating parents of young children just so a bunch of teenagers who have never seen a boob in real life can see a pair in their game, then I think they have a lesson to learn about who actually pays for the games they make.
Personally, i doubt that the kind of content in that screenshot makes it out the door with anything less than an AO rating... I'm pretty sure the xbox version at least will launch sans-nudity.
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So what? We're going to assume that all the caps happy, grammatically in-correct fools that cause us all grief are teenagers? A majority if not all of the teenagers I know that play MMO's are more mature than half of those over 18. Quite often, none of them even have a reason to voice their opinion, and are happy to just play the game.
Of course there are the obvious exceptions, but those exceptions apply to any category.
No, I think a lot of you have given the wrong perspective, kiddies will not "flock" to this game, those who are immature and get boned over the sight of digital jugs or a blood spray will. Not just teenagers.
/end rant.
P.S. Put Boobs in. Adds a sense of realism, and, I'd love to see the trouble it could cause to groups when their 40 year old basement dwelling priest loses focus.
If that M rating keeps even one parent from letting their little kid play the game its a victory. A sad one, but still a victory. I don't want little kids playing the game, and I am not talking teenagers, I am talking 13 and under for the most part. If it takes boobs to get the M rating or the attention to that Rating to make parents think twice, then we should only be able to make naked women characters.
And I know older people can be immature, I have seen that as well. But often there has been a time in game, when someone joins the group, they show up, bouncing around, not paying attenion, acting a fool, talking stupid in group chat. They join our teamspeak/ventrilo/whatever server and BLAM, well if isnt some little kid. I know its a kid, cause I hear them with the little mousy voice, and I ask how old are you? And I get an answer under 13. And usually, my Dad plays too, hes a level whatever, and hes on a raid doing whatever right now. Then I think to myself, great, even the runt's Dad won't play with him. Bastard.
And if boobs will help stem that problem, then I am all for it. And thats my rant. Not to mention, I am well adjusted to boobs in my life, and I used to consider myself a conoseur(sp?) of sorts. Then I got married, and though those boobs keep me happy, I had to swear off real access to all other boobs. So putting it in the game won't force me to play it, but it does add incentive.
And lastly, it truely has been a staple in the Sword and Sorcery genre since the beginning. And thats the model for this game, not Fantasy. There is a difference. And as I stated in my previous post, the American aversion to sexuality does find its roots in the Puritan movement that existed during the migration from Europe to America, and the early years of the colonies.
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Everything born must die. All that is, will come to ruin. This is the essence of Doom. So sayeth the Doomsayer.
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
I didn't read everything so not sure if this was said, but
AoC target audiance is the mature crowd. Any parent that lets a child (anyone under 16 IMO) play this game is purely bad parenting. Don't blame the company. Rather they should blame themselfs for being crappy parents.
I plan to let my kids look and hear everything. Why? It's life. You can't deny the existance of sexuallity, language, violence, brutality, or any harsh things in this world. When it comes down to it. It's human nature. We live to have sex. We live to feed. We live to kill. It is our nature! Deal with it! Denying it is just pure ignorance.
Only parents whining about this game is bible pushers (die!) and over-protective bad parents.
Expose one to fear and they shall learn to face fear. Hide one from fear and they shall fear always. This goes for MANY topics. Not just fear. Exposure is the key to advancement. The child growning up to be an immature pile of shit is the parents fault? Why? Because the parent needs to demonstrate what is right and what is wrong!
Nuff said.
I play for the fun of it.
n00bs phear b00bs!
Narf!
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
And if they are, its the parents fault that their loudmouthed mama's boys will be ruining the game play for the Mature playerbase.
**WARNING**
If you have kids..Do NOT let them play AoC! They will ruin it for everyone else the first time they see boobs or a head cut off! They will go crying to you and in turn causing huge nerfs (aka WoW syndrome) that in turn causes the game to be "Kiddiefied" and eventually the Devs will give in and change the rating to "G" so all can play it!...
/rant
Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody
You can buy rated M games at Wal Mart its just that they make you flash an id lol which is good in a way but however dont go buying rap or metal cds at wal mart because they wont have the swears and you are better off listening to the radio
A man dies daily, only to be reborn in the morning, bigger, better and wiser.
-Playing AoC
-Playing WoW
-Retired- SWG
-Retired- EVE
-Retired- LotR
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- 24" Widescreen 1080P HD display).
Wow, I think we've all found something we can agree upon: BOOBS ARE GOOD!!
Not only are we staying true to the Conan world, but we're actually making a mature game for mature people.
Besides, who wants to play with people who are anti-boob anyway?
This topic is hilarious. Good times
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Yes, can anyoen link the screenshots? Id like to evaluate them...graphically....and um....privately.
yea...a few screenies would do
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dont get mad at me
Why are some people afraid of Boobs?
Haven't you played MMOS?
It's because they are Elite, They spawn in pairs (mostly near the sea) and they hide their real level until you get close to them! They cast alteration spells and they stun male avatars!
Errr... am i missing something here?
What a funny country America is
I imagine it's probably as hard to nail down as boobums, but perhaps you know. Personally, I imagine the generic male fascination with breasts has something to do with breast-feeding as a child, but what is it about a man' s rear-end that fires many a woman's sexuality? As a 'coin-bouncer' backside a sign of strength?
No disrespect intended at all, I'm honestly curious as hell about it.
I love boobs.
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How are you?" -Me
Well...this situation is kind of complicated for me...I am gay (not ashamed, but not the typical flaming gay either), and I am not particularly fond of breasts (for an obvious reason), but if I see them in a film (or game for this matter), I am not bothered or disgusted. Besides...its a fuc*ing animated character. (very well animated I must say) So, I signed up for beta, and hope I get picked, and if I see a topless chick, I will go up to her and ask her nicely to cover up, because children are playing the game, and the entire world revolves around little children.
*note* the last sentence WAS sarcasm...if you didn't notice.......
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I can see it now.......a party in AoC goes up to a group of topless, female warriors, and then half of the group goes AFK for about 7-8 minutes...........wonder what that was about?!
Well, nudity and sexuality are problems in The US... what can one expect from a country who's population largely believes the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, and that a guy named Noah saved every animal, fish and bird by storing them on a boat during a world wide flood. lol We're a silly, hypocritical bunch. As a parent of three young boys, my wife and I are open about sexuallity in an age appropriate manner and even have fine art in our home that depicts nudity. My kids are very well adjusted. I applaude FC for being true to the Conan lore and treating their players like the adults they should be.
It because they are prude American religious ass hats. These are the same people that think guns should be legal and helping the poor is wrong and war without good reason is ok. These people are bad bad people. They are evil. And I don't like them.
I want a link to the boobs
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
Yes. Pics please?
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I love seeing people with no kids wax philosophical about what kind of parents they will be... I know when I was a kid I planned on eating Ice-cream for breakfast when I was grown, or maybe just a whole bowl of the marshmallows from the lucky charms, and watching nothing but cartoons all day long. Fortunately, we all grow up. One day you kids will grow up too and realize that there are things you want to shield your kids from... I'm willing to bet sexual content is pretty high on the list.
I am a big fan of boobs, huge fan in fact. Beyond that, I am a non-theist.... still looks like a game I will pass on. The nudity is unnecessarily limiting to the game's potential audience. If Funcom believes it is worth alienating parents of young children just so a bunch of teenagers who have never seen a boob in real life can see a pair in their game, then I think they have a lesson to learn about who actually pays for the games they make.
Personally, i doubt that the kind of content in that screenshot makes it out the door with anything less than an AO rating... I'm pretty sure the xbox version at least will launch sans-nudity.
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