I can't beleive how blind you are to the SOE mmo trend. it is baffling and i will be lmao when the crys ring out, "Waahhh SOE did this" "wahhhh SOE did that ... wahh" .
Originally posted by CognetoJoe I can't beleive how blind you are to the SOE mmo trend. it is baffling and i will be lmao when the crys ring out, "Waahhh SOE did this" "wahhhh SOE did that ... wahh" .
teh? I'll yell out "FLS blew the pooch on this one" if the game sucks.
Now that SOE is in the picture will you give PoTBS a look ?
I'm not gonna cry and whine like a baby just cause SoE has come into the picture. I hate them as much as anybody, but Im gonna at least give the game a try before I set the burning post up.
I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
voted yes, and OP you may not like the way the poll is going but alot of us just want a good game to play and guess what, if the game sucks i'll be here saying it sucks and if it does suck it'll be Flying Labs fault not SOE's.
People should read thru this topic on their forums, they answer alot of questions, doesn't look like they have money problems to me.
after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
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Originally posted by MrArchy after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
What do YOU think happened at Sigil and Vanguard. I'm curious why everyone uses Vanguard as an excuse to hate SOE.
I played Vanguard, and it was ALL Sigil's fault. I just want to hear the other side.
after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
What do YOU think happened at Sigil and Vanguard. I'm curious why everyone uses Vanguard as an excuse to hate SOE.
I played Vanguard, and it was ALL Sigil's fault. I just want to hear the other side.
dude they just need anything they can cling onto to throw at SOE, when they fail in their live's it's SOE's fault etc. honestly i'm starting to wish SOE would just give them so classic server's to roll on so they stop crying after all these years.
edit: like the flying labs guys already stated, if the game fails it's their fault not SOE. if people don't want to play the game because of SOE that's okay, plenty of games out there have fun gaming.....i think people remember gaming is fun.../shrug
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As longs as the devs have 100% control over the game in regards to development (as they said they do), they'll be fine.
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Will I try it. Absolutely. I will also be keeping a close eye on how much Sony gets involved in the game. As it stands now I dont have a problem with the aspects they are involved in, but that can change.
I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
What, cause they found somebody to handle the distribution and billing? Things that they could have done themselves, only less effectively?
You know, if I wrote a book, what would be the best way to get people to read it? Yes, I could self-publish, but that would mean a lot more work on my part, and it probably wouldn't get read as much because I likely wouldn't get Barnes & Noble or Amazon or any of the big retailers to sell it. LOr I could go to a publisher and get them to distribute and market it and all that jazz in exchange for a cut of the sales.
People don't realize that this is what FLS has done. They want the game to see a larger audience, so they got somebody to handle the logistics of that. Big deal.
after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
Exactly.
$OE is the blood diamond of the MMO world.
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I had no option but to choose maybe. This will be decided 1-2 months after its release on whether enough players have said good game, not much in bugs (well nothing like VG anyways). 70/30 on the good side and i will more than likely give it a whirl, under that and there is no chance. There again, if they have an open beta stage (or if not i'm lucky enough to get into a later form of beta) i can make my decision from that.
Those are the only options i can see, for me to purchase the game.
SOE has nothing to do with it....the game has potention imho.
LOL I saw like 39576109561065 of these when vangaurd was released.
Then sigil tanked at release and the game was doing utterly bad they had no choice but to sell it.
So if PotBS ends up having a terrible release and the game isnt anything near what FLS had promised, then yeah, maybe FLS will have to sell PotBS and cut their loses. And if they had to sell, they might sell to SoE too; SoE seems to like buying mmorpgs (EQ1, MxO, and VG now right?).
PotBS seems to be doing much better than VG, seeing how PotBS has been expanded from what FLS originally set out to create (a indie mmo naval simulator), where sigil kept having to cut parts of promised gameplay.
FLS has shown time and time again that they have the funding to expand development. They have secured funding to add many things ot their game that they originally did not plan to have at release (avatars, avatar combat, user submitted ships, economy, crafting, quests, and also the way they decided to scrap all the old avatar models and remodel/reanimate all of it... A struggling developer does not do these things for their game!).
I for one was a little disappointed about SOE coming into the picture I was part of the whole SWG phase that happened and it sucked. but lets see EQ2 is rated and 2nd on the list next to lotro which is boring as hell I personally think WOW should be up top but that is me back to the point if EQ2 is rated number two then how can sony be that bad the people love eq and eq2 so tell me if SOE sucks so bad how come people love eq2 and that potbs doesnt have a chance all of a sudden?? I am gonna get potbs looks fun and definitely new concept..
Even if SOE eventually buys the game they havn't screwed up anything since SWG afaik, and EQ2 was great when I played it and there has to be some reason its the second highest rated game on this site atm.
I can't wait to try PoTBS
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My plans remain unchanged, I will give PoTBS a try as soon as they do a free trial period.
SOE has nothing to do with it....the game has potention imho.
Dev's should reframe from voting .
Sony Online Entertainment Steals Customers Money
I'm gonna try it. My REAL concern is PvP, don't care about no publisher.
I can't beleive how blind you are to the SOE mmo trend. it is baffling and i will be lmao when the crys ring out, "Waahhh SOE did this" "wahhhh SOE did that ... wahh" .
Sony Online Entertainment Steals Customers Money
teh? I'll yell out "FLS blew the pooch on this one" if the game sucks.
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I was going to buy this game sight-unseen. Now that they are crawling to SOE, I will wait until the reviews are in. I have nothing against SOE but this must mean the game is in serious trouble.
voted yes, and OP you may not like the way the poll is going but alot of us just want a good game to play and guess what, if the game sucks i'll be here saying it sucks and if it does suck it'll be Flying Labs fault not SOE's.
People should read thru this topic on their forums, they answer alot of questions, doesn't look like they have money problems to me.
http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/showthread.php?p=459585#post459585
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
after the SWG's CU and NGE debacles and the issues that have arisen in VSoH, the answer is not only no but hell no. If most of the other people here have not yet learned from the mistakes of others who have been snakebitten by $OE, let them learn. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them, after all.
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What do YOU think happened at Sigil and Vanguard. I'm curious why everyone uses Vanguard as an excuse to hate SOE.
I played Vanguard, and it was ALL Sigil's fault. I just want to hear the other side.
What do YOU think happened at Sigil and Vanguard. I'm curious why everyone uses Vanguard as an excuse to hate SOE.
I played Vanguard, and it was ALL Sigil's fault. I just want to hear the other side.
dude they just need anything they can cling onto to throw at SOE, when they fail in their live's it's SOE's fault etc. honestly i'm starting to wish SOE would just give them so classic server's to roll on so they stop crying after all these years.
edit: like the flying labs guys already stated, if the game fails it's their fault not SOE. if people don't want to play the game because of SOE that's okay, plenty of games out there have fun gaming.....i think people remember gaming is fun.../shrug
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
As longs as the devs have 100% control over the game in regards to development (as they said they do), they'll be fine.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
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yeah i read those posts also, but FLS doesn't owe anybody money like sigil did, but keep clinging to the SOE hate, gotta have something in life eh?
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Will I try it. Absolutely. I will also be keeping a close eye on how much Sony gets involved in the game. As it stands now I dont have a problem with the aspects they are involved in, but that can change.
What, cause they found somebody to handle the distribution and billing? Things that they could have done themselves, only less effectively?
You know, if I wrote a book, what would be the best way to get people to read it? Yes, I could self-publish, but that would mean a lot more work on my part, and it probably wouldn't get read as much because I likely wouldn't get Barnes & Noble or Amazon or any of the big retailers to sell it. LOr I could go to a publisher and get them to distribute and market it and all that jazz in exchange for a cut of the sales.
People don't realize that this is what FLS has done. They want the game to see a larger audience, so they got somebody to handle the logistics of that. Big deal.
Exactly.
$OE is the blood diamond of the MMO world.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
I don't really have a problem with SOE, but POTBS didn't look that interesting in the first place.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Plans remain unchanged....Bunch of QQers arent going to change that
I had no option but to choose maybe. This will be decided 1-2 months after its release on whether enough players have said good game, not much in bugs (well nothing like VG anyways). 70/30 on the good side and i will more than likely give it a whirl, under that and there is no chance. There again, if they have an open beta stage (or if not i'm lucky enough to get into a later form of beta) i can make my decision from that.
Those are the only options i can see, for me to purchase the game.
Then sigil tanked at release and the game was doing utterly bad they had no choice but to sell it.
So if PotBS ends up having a terrible release and the game isnt anything near what FLS had promised, then yeah, maybe FLS will have to sell PotBS and cut their loses. And if they had to sell, they might sell to SoE too; SoE seems to like buying mmorpgs (EQ1, MxO, and VG now right?).
PotBS seems to be doing much better than VG, seeing how PotBS has been expanded from what FLS originally set out to create (a indie mmo naval simulator), where sigil kept having to cut parts of promised gameplay.
FLS has shown time and time again that they have the funding to expand development. They have secured funding to add many things ot their game that they originally did not plan to have at release (avatars, avatar combat, user submitted ships, economy, crafting, quests, and also the way they decided to scrap all the old avatar models and remodel/reanimate all of it... A struggling developer does not do these things for their game!).
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I for one was a little disappointed about SOE coming into the picture I was part of the whole SWG phase that happened and it sucked. but lets see EQ2 is rated and 2nd on the list next to lotro which is boring as hell I personally think WOW should be up top but that is me back to the point if EQ2 is rated number two then how can sony be that bad the people love eq and eq2 so tell me if SOE sucks so bad how come people love eq2 and that potbs doesnt have a chance all of a sudden?? I am gonna get potbs looks fun and definitely new concept..
Even if SOE eventually buys the game they havn't screwed up anything since SWG afaik, and EQ2 was great when I played it and there has to be some reason its the second highest rated game on this site atm.
I can't wait to try PoTBS
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No. Never. Something about pirate ships and the open sea just doesn't appeal to me.