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WoW is like The Beatles

AnnekynnAnnekynn Member Posts: 1,437
in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

Before anyone gets their panties up in a knot, this isnt a flame, just something funny I ran into (and if this is old, bite me) that I felt like sharing:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/8701

“WoW is The Beatles who changed music forever. You can’t be the Beatles; they already exist. You can’t copy them. If you try, you become The Monkees. You’ve got no chance. We’re not The Beatles. We’re Led Zeppelin. We’re very Heavy Metal…we Rock. That’s what we do. W.A.R. rocks. We’re heavy metal, hard rock.”

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  • RavanosRavanos Member Posts: 897

    gotta love Paul Barnett

  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418

    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

  • tapeworm00tapeworm00 Member Posts: 549
    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

    If he said that then he just went from ok in my eyes to being a moron.

  • HensenLirosHensenLiros Member Posts: 461

    Wrong.

    Everquest is the Beatles, WoW is the Monkees.

    And Ultima Online is Venom!! MUAHAHAHA

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Wrong.
    Everquest is the Beatles, WoW is the Monkees.
    And Ultima Online is Venom!! MUAHAHAHA
    Everquest would have to be

    1: Better

    2: more popular

    than WoW, and its not. hence WoW is the beatles.

  • ListofListof Member Posts: 155

    Being a fan of the Beatles myself, this is not a comparison I like! LOL.... Kinda like comparing Filet Mignon to a Sloppy Joe...

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  • JaeSwiftJaeSwift Member Posts: 201

    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"
    Then John Lennon is a dickhead for ignoring all the blues artists that made Elvis to what he was.

    It should be ''Before blues there was nothing''

  • wartreewartree Member Posts: 11

    lulz

    Since when a bunch of nerds like you will understand a thing about music...

  • HensenLirosHensenLiros Member Posts: 461

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Wrong.
    Everquest is the Beatles, WoW is the Monkees.
    And Ultima Online is Venom!! MUAHAHAHA
    Everquest would have to be

     

    1: Better

    2: more popular

    than WoW, and its not. hence WoW is the beatles.

    "Better" is a matter of one's point of view. A lot of people consider The Monkees to be better than the Beatles, just like a lot of people consider Everquest to be better than WoW.

    And yes, in matters if popularity you're right. But then I could just say that "WoW is Madonna" or any other pop shitty thing around. But using "better" as an argument is incoherent. Maybe if you said some stupid shit like other people still say like "WoW is the inovat0r! WoW made health bars!!" but at least you didn't say that.

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  • AkousmataAkousmata Member Posts: 72

    While Wow is the most popular game on the market, I would cringe at comparing it to the Beatles. 

    I don't think they really "changed the face of gaming" as many people would believe, they just did MMO marketing better than anyone else could do it at the time and therefore built up the largest player base.

    I would definitly compare them to early Beatles as in they are just as Bubble-gum pop as the rest of the bands of their day, however, I don't see WoW undergoing the same kind of evolution the Beatles went through during the course of their career. 

    Besides, Paul McCartney could probably buy Blizzard.

  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    Originally posted by tapeworm00

    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

    If he said that then he just went from ok in my eyes to being a moron.

    but who cares about how the world is perceived in your eyes..the mans a legend and your calling him a moron..sure buddy..john lennon was a huge elvis fan..elvis wasn't the blues he started rock and roll...it was originally called hillbilly rock and then eventually came to be know as rock and roll.

  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    Originally posted by wartree


    lulz
    Since when a bunch of nerds like you will understand a thing about music...

    how are we anymore a nerd than you are..your on the same nerdy site as the rest of us.

  • ZAGANZAGAN Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by ronan32

    Originally posted by tapeworm00

    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

    If he said that then he just went from ok in my eyes to being a moron.

    but who cares about how the world is perceived in your eyes..the mans a legend and your calling him a moron..sure buddy..john lennon was a huge elvis fan..elvis wasn't the blues he started rock and roll...it was originally called hillbilly rock and then eventually came to be know as rock and roll.

    ROFL, reallllllly who was Buddy Holly?

  • ronan32ronan32 Member Posts: 1,418
    Originally posted by ZAGAN

    Originally posted by ronan32

    Originally posted by tapeworm00

    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

    If he said that then he just went from ok in my eyes to being a moron.

    but who cares about how the world is perceived in your eyes..the mans a legend and your calling him a moron..sure buddy..john lennon was a huge elvis fan..elvis wasn't the blues he started rock and roll...it was originally called hillbilly rock and then eventually came to be know as rock and roll.

    ROFL, reallllllly who was Buddy Holly?

    buddy holly came after elvis.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by HensenLiros


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Wrong.
    Everquest is the Beatles, WoW is the Monkees.
    And Ultima Online is Venom!! MUAHAHAHA
    Everquest would have to be

     

    1: Better

    2: more popular

    than WoW, and its not. hence WoW is the beatles.

    "Better" is a matter of one's point of view. A lot of people consider The Monkees to be better than the Beatles, just like a lot of people consider Everquest to be better than WoW.

     

    And yes, in matters if popularity you're right. But then I could just say that "WoW is Madonna" or any other pop shitty thing around. But using "better" as an argument is incoherent. Maybe if you said some stupid shit like other people still say like "WoW is the inovat0r! WoW made health bars!!" but at least you didn't say that.

    There is a universal understanding of what is good:

    www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/534914.asp

    and what is bad

    www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/589596.asp

     

     

     

     

     

  • ZAGANZAGAN Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by ronan32

    Originally posted by ZAGAN

    Originally posted by ronan32

    Originally posted by tapeworm00

    Originally posted by ronan32


    actually elvis changed music forever, to quote john lennon: "before elvis there was nothing"

    If he said that then he just went from ok in my eyes to being a moron.

    but who cares about how the world is perceived in your eyes..the mans a legend and your calling him a moron..sure buddy..john lennon was a huge elvis fan..elvis wasn't the blues he started rock and roll...it was originally called hillbilly rock and then eventually came to be know as rock and roll.

    ROFL, reallllllly who was Buddy Holly?

    buddy holly came after elvis.



    Did not say WHEN i said who but i am happy that you remembered though.   i just thought it was funny and wanted to see if anyone knew who he was. and you win the donut hole. :) have fun. Sir Gilligan .

  • ZAGANZAGAN Member Posts: 236

    http://www.famoustexans.com/buddyholly.htm  Just in case :)

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

     

    Originally posted by Akousmata
    I don't think they really "changed the face of gaming" as many people would believe, they just did MMO marketing better than anyone else could do it at the time and therefore built up the largest player base.
    I would definitly compare them to early Beatles as in they are just as Bubble-gum pop as the rest of the bands of their day, however, I don't see WoW undergoing the same kind of evolution the Beatles went through during the course of their career. 
    The quote should probably be 'WoW changed the face of MMORPG gaming' not gaming in general.   The Beatles analogy still fits since The Beatles changed the face of popular music, not classic music or jazz etc.  It's an interesting comparison of the early Beatles but that's really taking the quote too far.  Paul B only was trying to say that because one thing managed to be incredibly successful that trying to copy that doesn't mean you get something successful. 

    As for the whole 'better' argument, that's entirely subjective.  There were millions of gamers who considered EQ garbage and never bothered playing it.  They made that clear by the game's mediocre subscription numbers.   A successful video game has sales that broke at least million like Civilization, Diablo, or Halo.  MMORPGs (outside of Korea) never could get numbers close to that and that was SOLELY because of bad game design, plain and simple.   

    There was always a market to support a MMORPG with millions of subscribers outside of Korea.  WoW was the first one to reach that market and it took far more than simple marketing.   

    Love it or hate it, there is no denying WoW finally forced MMORPGs to grow up.  They're not a joke genre for a niche market anymore.  And thankfully companies don't want to drag their games back to that no matter how much people whine for the 'good old days'. 

  • HensenLirosHensenLiros Member Posts: 461

    Well popularity means nothing to me. If it means that much to you, then well lucky you, Joe Boy =/ . But then that means that the Pop musical genre is the best, and Christianity is the "best religion"? Not my fault that people who rate WoW never played DAoC or UO before, or else they wouldn't give more than 80% for a game with a PvP concept as incomplete and broken as WoW's.

    Nothing else to say, I guess.

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  • Aison2Aison2 Member CommonPosts: 624

     

    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Well popularity means nothing to me. If it means that much to you, then well lucky you, Joe Boy =/ . But then that means that the Pop musical genre is the best, and Christianity is the "best religion"? Not my fault that people who rate WoW never played DAoC or UO before, or else they wouldn't give more than 80% for a game with a PvP concept as incomplete and broken as WoW's.
    Nothing else to say, I guess.

    even if it would be so

     

    you know there are a lot of people out there who dont care about pvp...

    wow is also  much nicer to newbies

     

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Well popularity means nothing to me. If it means that much to you, then well lucky you, Joe Boy =/ . But then that means that the Pop musical genre is the best, and Christianity is the "best religion"? Not my fault that people who rate WoW never played DAoC or UO before, or else they wouldn't give more than 80% for a game with a PvP concept as incomplete and broken as WoW's.
    Nothing else to say, I guess.
    So that is your counter arguement? you compare it to something that has nothing to do with video games? please

    and for the record, not everyone cares about PVP, nor does everyone agrees that DAoC or UO had better pvp.

  • HensenLirosHensenLiros Member Posts: 461

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Well popularity means nothing to me. If it means that much to you, then well lucky you, Joe Boy =/ . But then that means that the Pop musical genre is the best, and Christianity is the "best religion"? Not my fault that people who rate WoW never played DAoC or UO before, or else they wouldn't give more than 80% for a game with a PvP concept as incomplete and broken as WoW's.
    Nothing else to say, I guess.
    So that is your counter arguement? you compare it to something that has nothing to do with video games? please

     

    and for the record, not everyone cares about PVP, nor does everyone agrees that DAoC or UO had better pvp.

    Just like not everyone thinks that WoW is better than Everquest or that the Beatles are better than The Monkees.

    You said it yourself, want a cookie now?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
     
    and for the record, not everyone cares about PVP, nor does everyone agrees that DAoC or UO had better pvp.

    But the people who know better do.....

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Well popularity means nothing to me. If it means that much to you, then well lucky you, Joe Boy =/ . But then that means that the Pop musical genre is the best, and Christianity is the "best religion"? Not my fault that people who rate WoW never played DAoC or UO before, or else they wouldn't give more than 80% for a game with a PvP concept as incomplete and broken as WoW's.
    Nothing else to say, I guess.
    So that is your counter arguement? you compare it to something that has nothing to do with video games? please

     

    and for the record, not everyone cares about PVP, nor does everyone agrees that DAoC or UO had better pvp.

    Just like not everyone thinks that WoW is better than Everquest or that the Beatles are better than The Monkees.

     

    You said it yourself, want a cookie now?

    But just because some people don't think that wow is better than Everquest does not mean that WoW isn't better than Everquest.

    The argument that WoW is better than Everquest is supported by 9 million players, many awards and critic scores. The argument that Everquest is better than WoW is not backed up by anything.

  • raoulraoul Member Posts: 88

    WoW is more like an iPod than The Beatles

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