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WAR , the mmo with MORE expensive subscription fee !

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  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Ok please enough already let the post die. Ea strikes again to some people supposidly being economists on here it s laughable. The bottom line is we don t know if it s going to happen. Also for most on this topic it seems it s no big deal so stop with the crap already.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059

    Originally posted by Wicoa


    EA are cash cow milkers and their philosphy is plain and clear.
    Not only that they are incompetent, this topped with several other factors inculding how I purchased the battlefield 2142 expansion northern strike from their website store.  I am not alone either http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=326432&tstart=0
    That is not my post I am just illustrating that I am not alone.  I will not touch any game ever again to do with EA effectively a boycott after the way I and others have been treated by them.  I am not surprised they are adding in a price hike after all these are the same people that try to rip us off with extras in burnout on the xbox live pay to download.
    For those of you that think this is chump change good for you. However like me I am sure one day you will settle down with someone you love and have kids even while you still have your precious war especially if you are long term committed to a game.  A large part of the western mmo market comes from couples who cannot afford the time/money or otherwise outside of the home. A couple of dollars or pounds is alot to us with a tight mortgage and recession looming.  Lets say its 18 dollars a month thats 216 dollars a year which equals alot to most of us.
    Massively multiplayer games are meant for the "Masses" not the elitist few, good luck playing with the kids I guess, the mature understanding adults who have the ball and chain will be playing a 'game' more affordable.

    Seriously, you wrote this with a straight face?  $216 dollars a year vs the $180 per year that games currently cost is a total of 36.00 a year more. 

    That is not a lot of money for most people.  Recommend you cut back on the cell phone bill or something to cover if this is too much to handle.  The darn game is going to take a $1500.00+ computer (with a 300.00 video card) and a fast internet connection (50.00/mo in my town) to even play it effectively.

    Yes, PC games are for the elite, and not the masses, which is why consoles are so appealing to the mass market,  they are cheaper.  (although Blizzard took a great tact in making WOW run on lower end machines, which Mythic typically never worries about, they expect you to upgrade)

     

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  • judgebeojudgebeo Member Posts: 419

    only 2 things.

     

    .- Why you call the op a troll? he just put an info about a game, dont think it is good or bad, just an info. Is the problem that you dont like the info?

     

    .- Personally: I dont like that the game cost more than the "standard" fee. Why? surelly WaR will get people on it anyway, like wow did. As said, wow was very expensive comparing it with the others mmorpg (retail price like an stand alone + fee, when usually this games dont got a retail price of this kind) and was one of the most populars mmo.

    For me, the true problem, is that from then, there are more mmorpg with this kind of price (high retail + standard fee) and if EA puts a price like this on a game with this hype and a lot of fans or followers that will buy it without no care about the price, other mmorpg will bring the prices up, this, and the fact that almost all mmorpg are ending in the same "me thinks" that is bad for community.

     

    Btw, better wait to see if what the op posted is the truth or for official announcement of EA.

  • trallatralla Member Posts: 290

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    You have to pay for quality. Warhammer Online is the state of art. The highest level of development achieved at the current moment in our life time.

    yeah, right.. you have to pay more to grind these days ? i say, skip these WoW clones.

  • Munkyman1Munkyman1 Member Posts: 221

    lol yep, if it works...and people play good on them for upping the price...because if it does work...every other game and its mother will up the sub as they release.  THANK YOU EA MYTHIC!!!!!

  • KrayzjoelKrayzjoel Member Posts: 906

     Ive been waiting for this game for a long time. Ill pay the subscription fee. If the game turns out to be less than steller then i can always cancel.

    I highly doubt this game will suck from what ive seen.

    Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
    Playing EVE Online and AOC.
    Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD

  • Munkyman1Munkyman1 Member Posts: 221

    Oh ill pay and play too...i loved DAoC and this is all that and more...and the classes look so fking fun.  with the PvP what i know will rock...and please god a good economy...i think we will see a sub fee rise over the next year across new releases...cant say that is good, but ill still play WAR and i suppose feed the machine

  • KeladorKelador Member UncommonPosts: 129

    Originally posted by tralla


     
    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    You have to pay for quality. Warhammer Online is the state of art. The highest level of development achieved at the current moment in our life time.

     

    yeah, right.. you have to pay more to grind these days ? i say, skip these WoW clones.

    Its far from state of art and i wouldn't say its the highest level of dev achieved and i also dont see anything WoW like so not a clone also to be blunt WoW took all the standard feactures from mmo's added the more popular feactures you see in the high end mmo's put a warcraft face on them and called it an orignal game..... plus the wow is quite ugly they should of spent more time on the engine and released a better game well.

     

    On Topic if they do charge a higher sub for WAR they will realy have to offer something extra that makes it worth while.

  • Munkyman1Munkyman1 Member Posts: 221

    They dont have to add anything extra.  Cigarette prices keep going up...and you can hardly tell me you get more out of todays cigarette than they did 100 years ago...but people still pay.

  • HricaHrica Member UncommonPosts: 1,129
    Originally posted by Munkyman1


    lol yep, if it works...and people play good on them for upping the price...because if it does work...every other game and its mother will up the sub as they release.  THANK YOU EA MYTHIC!!!!!



    /agree

  • Daidalos7Daidalos7 Member Posts: 28

    Come on guys.Is the 5$ more a serium money problem??

    The main problem in all MMO's is the internet market. It is the money some people pay to get extra items, and stuff. If the game is worthy i would have no problem paying 20$ or 25$ per month. This is nothing compared to the money we all spend on stupid things every month.

    If Mythic could find a way to avoid item,character and other items selling on ebay and other sites i would pay even 30$ per month.

  • WicoaWicoa Member UncommonPosts: 1,637

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Wicoa


    EA are cash cow milkers and their philosphy is plain and clear.
    Not only that they are incompetent, this topped with several other factors inculding how I purchased the battlefield 2142 expansion northern strike from their website store.  I am not alone either http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=326432&tstart=0
    That is not my post I am just illustrating that I am not alone.  I will not touch any game ever again to do with EA effectively a boycott after the way I and others have been treated by them.  I am not surprised they are adding in a price hike after all these are the same people that try to rip us off with extras in burnout on the xbox live pay to download.
    For those of you that think this is chump change good for you. However like me I am sure one day you will settle down with someone you love and have kids even while you still have your precious war especially if you are long term committed to a game.  A large part of the western mmo market comes from couples who cannot afford the time/money or otherwise outside of the home. A couple of dollars or pounds is alot to us with a tight mortgage and recession looming.  Lets say its 18 dollars a month thats 216 dollars a year which equals alot to most of us.
    Massively multiplayer games are meant for the "Masses" not the elitist few, good luck playing with the kids I guess, the mature understanding adults who have the ball and chain will be playing a 'game' more affordable.

     

    Seriously, you wrote this with a straight face?  $216 dollars a year vs the $180 per year that games currently cost is a total of 36.00 a year more. 

    That is not a lot of money for most people.  Recommend you cut back on the cell phone bill or something to cover if this is too much to handle.  The darn game is going to take a $1500.00+ computer (with a 300.00 video card) and a fast internet connection (50.00/mo in my town) to even play it effectively.

    Yes, PC games are for the elite, and not the masses, which is why consoles are so appealing to the mass market,  they are cheaper.  (although Blizzard took a great tact in making WOW run on lower end machines, which Mythic typically never worries about, they expect you to upgrade)

     

    PC games are not for the elite I contest that entirely.  You cannot pass blizzard and what they have achieved off on a whim.  MMOs are for the masses thats why the first word in the name of the genre is Massively, not Elitistly.

     

    I have a machine that is capable of running most games including the new ones.  I could afford the game no problem but then something else would suffer, when you have kids a house and a mortgage maybe you will understand.

    I have heard from an inside source that the fee will be $19.99 a month. With such a highly competitive market I hope the game flops.  Theres not much point in moving from your current mmo leaving that treadmill to get on another one which will charge you more.  Ontop of that fee will be expansions and the rest.

    I'll stick with my current, play aoc or go back to warcraft. I dont need to play the new and the latest that won't have as much content as released games and charge you more.

     

  • ImpyrielImpyriel Member UncommonPosts: 711

    Originally posted by Wicoa


    I have heard from an inside source that the fee will be $19.99 a month. With such a highly competitive market I hope the game flops.  Theres not much point in moving from your current mmo leaving that treadmill to get on another one which will charge you more.  Ontop of that fee will be expansions and the rest.
     
    Sorry, have to call BS on it.

    Seriously, how many people are that gullible to follow hearsay?

  • Omega3Omega3 Member Posts: 398

    Originally posted by Wicoa


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Wicoa


    EA are cash cow milkers and their philosphy is plain and clear.
    Not only that they are incompetent, this topped with several other factors inculding how I purchased the battlefield 2142 expansion northern strike from their website store.  I am not alone either http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=326432&tstart=0
    That is not my post I am just illustrating that I am not alone.  I will not touch any game ever again to do with EA effectively a boycott after the way I and others have been treated by them.  I am not surprised they are adding in a price hike after all these are the same people that try to rip us off with extras in burnout on the xbox live pay to download.
    For those of you that think this is chump change good for you. However like me I am sure one day you will settle down with someone you love and have kids even while you still have your precious war especially if you are long term committed to a game.  A large part of the western mmo market comes from couples who cannot afford the time/money or otherwise outside of the home. A couple of dollars or pounds is alot to us with a tight mortgage and recession looming.  Lets say its 18 dollars a month thats 216 dollars a year which equals alot to most of us.
    Massively multiplayer games are meant for the "Masses" not the elitist few, good luck playing with the kids I guess, the mature understanding adults who have the ball and chain will be playing a 'game' more affordable.

     

    Seriously, you wrote this with a straight face?  $216 dollars a year vs the $180 per year that games currently cost is a total of 36.00 a year more. 

    That is not a lot of money for most people.  Recommend you cut back on the cell phone bill or something to cover if this is too much to handle.  The darn game is going to take a $1500.00+ computer (with a 300.00 video card) and a fast internet connection (50.00/mo in my town) to even play it effectively.

    Yes, PC games are for the elite, and not the masses, which is why consoles are so appealing to the mass market,  they are cheaper.  (although Blizzard took a great tact in making WOW run on lower end machines, which Mythic typically never worries about, they expect you to upgrade)

     

     

    PC games are not for the elite I contest that entirely.  You cannot pass blizzard and what they have achieved off on a whim.  MMOs are for the masses thats why the first word in the name of the genre is Massively, not Elitistly.

     

    I have a machine that is capable of running most games including the new ones.  I could afford the game no problem but then something else would suffer, when you have kids a house and a mortgage maybe you will understand.

    I have heard from an inside source that the fee will be $19.99 a month. With such a highly competitive market I hope the game flops.  Theres not much point in moving from your current mmo leaving that treadmill to get on another one which will charge you more.  Ontop of that fee will be expansions and the rest.

    I'll stick with my current, play aoc or go back to warcraft. I dont need to play the new and the latest that won't have as much content as released games and charge you more.

     

    i'm sorry but all of your argumentation is wrong. PC games are for well-off people.

    At any given point in time, if you want to play games on a PC, you'll need to invest at least 1200$ (that includes a screen and Windows) to get a decent gaming experience. For that price, your PC will be obsolete in 3 years top.

    A console costs anywhere between 350 to 600$ at release, and will last you for 5 years.

    How many people play WoW? 9 millions.

    How many PS2 were sold worldwide? more than 100 milions...

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    >> EQ1 2000-2004 - Shaman/Bard/Wizard/Monk - nolife raid-whore
    >> WoW 2004-2009 + Cataclysm for 2 months - hardcore casual
    >> Current status : done with MMO, too old for that crap.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Not trying to be an ass but why do so many people have a reliable source. I ll still say who cares even if you re right it s $5, $60 a YEAR. Even more it s $1.25 a week , or $.18 a day lol oh well hard to justify i m sure for some for me it s just taking back some bottles i otherwise would give to some homeless guy. Ah hell i ll still give them away.

  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Bah, stupid Mythic and their "no official forums" policy..... I would have missed this entirely since I don't visit the warhammer alliance forums. (thanks for posting it here).
    Doesn't change anything though, I still think they are thinking about raising the bar, otherwise they could have easily dispelled the rumor right here.


    Yeap, the no official forums thing is dumb, nice find in any case.

  • WicoaWicoa Member UncommonPosts: 1,637

     

    Originally posted by Omega3


     
    Originally posted by Wicoa


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by Wicoa


    EA are cash cow milkers and their philosphy is plain and clear.
    Not only that they are incompetent, this topped with several other factors inculding how I purchased the battlefield 2142 expansion northern strike from their website store.  I am not alone either http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=326432&tstart=0
    That is not my post I am just illustrating that I am not alone.  I will not touch any game ever again to do with EA effectively a boycott after the way I and others have been treated by them.  I am not surprised they are adding in a price hike after all these are the same people that try to rip us off with extras in burnout on the xbox live pay to download.
    For those of you that think this is chump change good for you. However like me I am sure one day you will settle down with someone you love and have kids even while you still have your precious war especially if you are long term committed to a game.  A large part of the western mmo market comes from couples who cannot afford the time/money or otherwise outside of the home. A couple of dollars or pounds is alot to us with a tight mortgage and recession looming.  Lets say its 18 dollars a month thats 216 dollars a year which equals alot to most of us.
    Massively multiplayer games are meant for the "Masses" not the elitist few, good luck playing with the kids I guess, the mature understanding adults who have the ball and chain will be playing a 'game' more affordable.

     

    Seriously, you wrote this with a straight face?  $216 dollars a year vs the $180 per year that games currently cost is a total of 36.00 a year more. 

    That is not a lot of money for most people.  Recommend you cut back on the cell phone bill or something to cover if this is too much to handle.  The darn game is going to take a $1500.00+ computer (with a 300.00 video card) and a fast internet connection (50.00/mo in my town) to even play it effectively.

    Yes, PC games are for the elite, and not the masses, which is why consoles are so appealing to the mass market,  they are cheaper.  (although Blizzard took a great tact in making WOW run on lower end machines, which Mythic typically never worries about, they expect you to upgrade)

     

     

    PC games are not for the elite I contest that entirely.  You cannot pass blizzard and what they have achieved off on a whim.  MMOs are for the masses thats why the first word in the name of the genre is Massively, not Elitistly.

     

    I have a machine that is capable of running most games including the new ones.  I could afford the game no problem but then something else would suffer, when you have kids a house and a mortgage maybe you will understand.

    I have heard from an inside source that the fee will be $19.99 a month. With such a highly competitive market I hope the game flops.  Theres not much point in moving from your current mmo leaving that treadmill to get on another one which will charge you more.  Ontop of that fee will be expansions and the rest.

    I'll stick with my current, play aoc or go back to warcraft. I dont need to play the new and the latest that won't have as much content as released games and charge you more.

     

    i'm sorry but all of your argumentation is wrong. PC games are for well-off people.

     

    At any given point in time, if you want to play games on a PC, you'll need to invest at least 1200$ (that includes a screen and Windows) to get a decent gaming experience. For that price, your PC will be obsolete in 3 years top.

    A console costs anywhere between 350 to 600$ at release, and will last you for 5 years.

    How many people play WoW? 9 millions.

    How many PS2 were sold worldwide? more than 100 milions...

     

    Wake up go to pc world pay 200+ bucks for a pc/labtop with a flat screen and it will run wow and maybe many more mmos on this site. Carphone warehouse were giving them away with a broadband connection signed up for a year.  It will probably cost 400 dollars to order and build your own pc that is relatively decent with a dual core.

    It was the original point of mmo's non of you were around then I guess, the basic design was to run it on a low work machine.  From the day of mud's to the start of ultima online. Blizzard picked up on that one fact and ran with it.

    The latest generation sure you'll need a good pc but technology has gotten relatively cheap in comparison to the requirements to today's mmo.

     

     Anyway Im done with arguing against elite kids who have no or little grasp on life and need to grow up.

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    The problem is if one raises the price, it's very possible the other mmo's will increase their monthly subscription rates as well.

     

    Personally, I have seen little to justify a higher subscription rate.  Every game hypes itself as the next big thing.  Basically, all that hype can be summed up in three words, "Bla bla bla."

  • jondifooljondifool Member UncommonPosts: 1,143

    Time to sum up this thread !

    1) a respecteble fansite has a quote in a faq about the price of  War possible being higher than standard.

    2) While the spokeperson is supposed to be Mark Jacobs (mbj),  the actual source for the quote is not confirmed.

    3) a serius discussion evolves about if a higher pris is fair or not , with many adding there own oppinon! 

    4)TROLL's interfere ALOT . Especial about the EA hatred

    5) the MBJ statement from Warhammer alliance from cristmas(thats 3 weeks ago) is brought up ! This basicly is a denial of any  price numbers being official. It includes a strong  warning against trolls. 

    6)what MBJ writes on warhammer alliance is " AS OFFICIAL AS IT GETS ATM" .

    7) Case closed

    NB. this thread can in all fairness still discuss what a fair price will be, BUT the TROLL's will not respect /understand that its pure speculation, and proberly keep on distort the discussion alot !

    but for all others to navigate this is a helpfull little summary!

     

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

     

    Originally posted by mk11232


    MMO's have charged $14.95 for a while now, its not a suprise that some want to up the anti a little more.  $19.95? eh probably wouldn't pay that much myself unless the game has proven that it is something completely different and deserving for such a high price (not saying it will be $19.95, just a hypo). 

     

    QFT.  And atm, I see nothing justifying a raise, if anything, the stalling would justify a decline, not a raise. :P

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • malefacusmalefacus Member Posts: 135

    naaa, that can't be true. I don't belive this.

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287

    Good summary.

     

    Now for my take.

     

    A company stands to earn billions yearly off just a 10 dollar sub.  IN the entertainment industry you do not often find a source which pays for itself inside the first 6 months.  The general model there is that you pay alot upfront, squeeze by for a year and then soak up pure profit from then on.

     

    The fact is, with a 15 dollar sub a decent game will make back what it pays in almost immediately (hence why WoW was so quick with its massive content updates).  My feeling is that the competition in this market demands that price stay where it is, or go a hair lower.  Because if the game is not good enough to have earned back what it paid in on a 15 dollar sub...it CERTAINLY isn't worth paying 20 for either.

     

    That brings us round to the point where we can all agree that anything over $15 is purely bleeding the consumer for no reason.  I'd rather just play WoW, they don't actively assume I'm an idiot.  Absolutely nothing in the development of a game could possibly cause such a massive raise...or even a raise in price at all.  The content updates an MMO gives does not cost anywhere NEAR what initial development does.  I have no desire to line their pocketbooks just for the sake of doing so.

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