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LOTRO is the best MMO available
BishopTx
Member Posts: 23
Just my $.02 that LOTRO is one helluva quality game and a lot of fun to play.
As the number of MMOs I play thru the 30 day subscription period but not past continue to rack up (Vanguard, Tabula Rasa) it becomes clear to me I will be playing LOTRO for years to come. I spent time back in the day with EQ and DAOC and enjoyed DAOC a lot...The first second gen MMO that really captured me was Planetside - I went all the way with that game.
After that I played some SWG but WoW took over like no other game ever - and while I played a lot of other games over the past few years they always came second to WoW...I got in the LOTRO beta and played it when it came out but was still so heavily into WoW never quite dedicated myself to it.
For the first time since the beta and when it was released (Nov 04) I don't have an active WoW account -- 3 level 70 toons and many hours spent in Azeroth and Outland it feels weird to not be playing it, but thankfully LOTRO is filling the void better than I could have ever expected.
I've got a 45 guard that I hope to reach 50 with soon and have a Lore-Master at 20 and am in a superb kinship on Brandywine..and having as much fun as I ever have in any game.
LOTRO is so polished, so refined I am amazed every time i log into play. Wonderous inclusion of story elements, very cinematic, super play mechanics, a solid crafting system and a great mix of quests. Can't wait to really sink my teeth into the Ettenmoors and PVmP, which I have not really done yet.
No real idea why I am posting this other than if there are other players out there that may be getting bored with whatever their playing that they give LOTRO a try.
Cheers and hope to see you in Middle Earth
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Still only on the second day of my trial, only have a character to 10 and one to 7.
I agree. I've played a lot of MMO's and this is by far the best I've come across. It's just amazing. No way around it. Not to be a shill, but man, I've never been caught up on the second day of any MMO like I have with this one.
Playing:SW:TOR
Played: A lot.
Beta tested: Freaking everything.
Looking forward to: Nothing.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Well, you said you have a 45 Guardian soon to be level 50. Then what?
Play an alt? Go back and collect all the deeds? Create a new character and try to get him to "undying"
That's why I left the game, I couldn't see an endgame that was interesting to me.
And you haven't done much MPVP, you might find it somewhat disappointing.
But glad you're having a good time, but IMO EVE is a much better game.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Always something to say.
I have a 50 burglar and have no interest in making a alt. And i have been 50 for a month.I have yet to get my rift,helegrod, and some stuff in cd/uru/ BG . So much to do . And let me say that if you like big battles.The choice between falling back to a keep or flanking east to hit a hot spot , could mean the entire raid wipe. I played EVE and have to say it's the most hard-core game ever.Its is insane.Awsome game. But almost too insane for me , play that game if you enjoy ruining someones week lol. And not to mention the countless books to complete.Between that and reiding. Should be enough to keep you busy. If you like group managment and team play , this is the game.Not like or even close to EVE but still pretty decent for it's style.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
What's up with the mod edits?
Anyway, I think it's mildly pretentious to call LOTRO the best MMO available. I know 10 million people that would say otherwise. Well, I don't really know them. And I don't really mean that as you might think I mean that. I mean it as hyperbole to illustrate my point, which incidentally isn't that WoW is the best MMO out there. What is my point is that every hardcore fan of whatever MMO they play will claim the same thing, and also that I don't think there can be an objective evaluation of "the best MMO available." The closest one can get is again those aforementioned 10 million people.
Check out my LOTRO Blog: www.middleearthadventurer.blogspot.com
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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No end game = not interesting = no thanks. But I'm glad your enjoying it. Its definately not for everyone though.
I dont like it. Just my 2 cents. One of the worst MMO's available. Just not enough classes and races.
Since I am not playing or even bothering to try this game because I am tired of "another raiding game". I read their designers talking about how this game ends in raiding...the fact it is implemented or not is irrelevant, the game won't see me...ever.
The journey is what matter.
The journey is determined by the path of progression.
If, at any moment, even only once, in order to progress I have to Raid, I won't play the game. No compromise. I want to group, from start, till the end. If my WHOLE path of progression isn't in grouping/soloing, I ain't bothering with the game, ever.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Shouldn't call me bad names, mods are always watching.
And of course I always have something to say, how the heck else would I catch up to "Gameloading" in post count?
Besides, I figure anytime someone starts a thread claiming a certain game is the best one ever made they are just inviting some sort of comment. If I agree I'll jump right on the pile and cheer for my team. If I don't, I'll point out the shortcomings that I've experienced. (or read about in some cases)
We can't all like every game. Me, I like games where player actions result in control of the game world. I guess my gaming history would help you understand why. It went Lineage 1, DAOC, Shadowbane, Lineage 2, COH, WOW, DAOC, COV, VG, LotRO, EVE.
My first 4 MMO's were PVP centric where the end game resulted in player build or controlled cities and denying your opponent an opportunity to play the game his way was all part of the fun. COH just didn't catch my interest for long, but I played WOW for 1.75 yrs.
WOW was my first experience in end game PVE raiding, and while I did a bunch (through AQ 40) I grew to hate the imposition on my life. Once I realized TBC would invalidate all my hard work in a moment I decided no more WOW.
I played LotRO cause I was bored and it looked cool. It was fun for awhile, and some of the best moments were non-combat ones. But I quickly tired of it, perhaps it was just fantasy game burnout which is why I'm staying completely away from them until AOC/WAR come out later this year.
LotRO's a fine game, and many folks obviously love it. Just not me.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Since I am not playing or even bothering to try this game because I am tired of "another raiding game". I read their designers talking about how this game ends in raiding...the fact it is implemented or not is irrelevant, the game won't see me...ever.
The journey is what matter.
The journey is determined by the path of progression.
If, at any moment, even only once, in order to progress I have to Raid, I won't play the game. No compromise. I want to group, from start, till the end. If my WHOLE path of progression isn't in grouping/soloing, I ain't bothering with the game, ever.
Well, I believe LOTRO does exactly that--namely allows you to progress from start to 'finish' by only grouping/solo content. LOTRO has high end 12/6 person grouping dungeons/instances. I wouldn't call them Raids per se. There is Raid gear, but it is on par with crafted gear. Heck, I even know players that have Quest gear mixed in with crafted.
Raiding in LOTRO happens only if you like it and want to experience it. By no means must you.
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Currently Playing: LOTRO; DDO
Played: AC2, AO, Auto Assault, CoX, DAoC, DDO, Earth&Beyond, EQ1, EQ2, EVE, Fallen Earth, Jumpgate, Roma Victor, Second Life, SWG, V:SoH, WoW, World War II Online.
Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
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The OP started this thread like it was fact...and believe me...this game is too iffy to be stated as "THE BEST"...so many differing viewpoints, and no concensus..
Nope...the thread should have read
"LOTRO is the best MMO in my opinion..."...then given his opinion and moved on...
Once people forget about always wanting to be top level and enjoy content at every level then mmorpgs will be much better. Why does raids have to be at the end? Could levels not last about a month each and a few raids, group dungeons be at each level? Why should 1- X not be the center of attention rather than be just a stepping stone to the finish line? I picture a long lasting mmorpg experience where each level lasts about a month and in that month you are preparing for the next level by acquiring gear through different means including; raids, group dungeons, or pvp. This gear would be a set. You don't necessarily need every piece to move on but it would be beneficial. There would still be crafted gear that could fill in the gaps at each level. After about a month of enjoying the content with your guild, in which is about what you do at the end of a game but in this game it would be at every level. Why wait to the end? Let's have the "end game" at every level.
Then after most of your guild has "dinged" .. acquired maybe 3 - 5 new skills and stats, it is time to move to the next level with new raids, dungeons, pvp objectives to acquire the next best set and new skills. This game would be progressing like an "end game" that we have now but you would also be obtaining levels in the process, and new skills.
But that isn't what I said - I didn’t say LOTRO is the best game ever made - that would be even more of lightning rod than what I did say -- and that was (in my opinion) LOTRO is the best overall MMO on the market at this time. I believe that, and I felt like sharing it. I don't often do that by the way, share my opinion that is without some sort of provocation (which I had none here). Only the compelling fact that I am having so much fun playing LOTRO that it became contagious and I wanted others to share in the same fun.
No agenda to call out my opinion versus another - and I don't think my original post reads like that.
I know the diversity in tastes and that the header of this thread is somewhat of a lightning rod, but not in a bad or inflammatory way. There are people who post who are simply looking for attention, that is not my goal.
I simply want a healthy discussion on a subject matter I and others enjoy and I think we have that here.
The MMO space is at an inflection point and I personally believe the industry (or more appropriately each individual game company) has some monumental decisions to make. I love Activision's CEO complaining about the half a billion dollar investment everyone needs to make simply to stand a chance of competing in a world with WoW. Or Molyneaux crying about Blizzard taking all of his customers. Cry me a river. The first billion dollar game -- WoW on WoW. Cool stuff, and we're in the thick of it.
But even with that, as said above, now we have the inflection point to break through: a series of really big questions that the communities of MMO players are dealing with and must be solved in order to break beyond the WOW, LOTRO, EQ, TR, etc mold.
How do MMOs solve the "end game riddle?"
There will always be people who play faster than content can be developed and they will always complain about level caps, grind and the lack of end game -- no matter how much content there is... should devs solve for this element of the market - the answer is no, because while they are the most vocal they are not representative of the greater population.
What is the right mix of PVP and how should it be implemented?
What is the right balance of group play, small group play and solo play?
These and a few other major questions require healthy debate and probably a few trial and errors before we see the next great MMO or two. I am not advocating one model for MMO's, but simply interested in the direction of the industry and what the gameplay evolves into.
Others have said they prefer a more complex game like EVE... I actually have an active EVE subscription and am amazed at the depth and sophistication (and it's perrrty) of that game. But its mechanics (for me) are all messed up. It took me 5 minutes to pick up loot from a ship I destroyed - it was moving, I was moving, I needed to keep my ship within range blah blah blah. For crying out loud, just let me pick up the darn loot. A simple gameplay system that IMO is much harder than it needed to be.
My intent in starting this thread was to simply point out, given the wide range of issues facing these games and their players, the game with the best mix of content and gameplay (right now) is LOTRO. Obviously there are going to be people who disagree with this, and that's what makes all this so much fun.
I'd have to say 'tis, at least until AoC
for me i cant say it is the greatest game avaliable..or greatest game ive played but what makes lotro so "great" in peoples opimions is the fact that the game besides having a lot of organized and well made quests is the small details like smoking a pipe or harvesting..it looks sweet atleast to me and thats what i liked so much abt it, but out of all the music system is what got me, you know when you dont want to quest or anything find a friend or some1 and just play some nice music....its relaxing and fits with the mood/style of the game so greatly. So thats what i ahve to say... i quit because pretty soon no one really played music and being lonely without some1 to play with killed me. but to me i can count playing music or smoking, or even harvesting endgame for me cause those kind of stuff in a game is what i love.
"In my opinion"
Your topic reads..."LOTRO is the best MMO available"
I do not believe that and many others do not either.
But...to YOU it is the best MMO available...and to that...well huzzah
I personally feel LOTRO is the WORST MMO available....my opinion...even Vanguard does not hold that title. Even though Vanguard has so many issues...the difference is there is a lot there, and there is uniquity...something different as well as the normal mechanics...LOTRO does not have that in my opinion..
thanks
"In my opinion"
Your topic reads..."LOTRO is the best MMO available"
I do not believe that and many others do not either.
But...to YOU it is the best MMO available...and to that...well huzzah
I personally feel LOTRO is the WORST MMO available....my opinion...even Vanguard does not hold that title. Even though Vanguard has so many issues...the difference is there is a lot there, and there is uniquity...something different as well as the normal mechanics...LOTRO does not have that in my opinion..
thanks
LOL, lord of the rings is the worst mmo available in your opinion? Well, that should tell everyone exactly what your opinion is worth. (if they hadn't already figured it out)
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
Lotro is nice. And incredibly boring.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
LoTRO is a good game, but too young with too little end game content. WoW has more to offer. And if you want a real sand box MMO - there is nothing better then EVE Online
Lotro is nice and fun from lvl 1 to 3O/35
not bad after 35 but becomes really boring after 40. You'll have to farm all time (books, craft, even MP = farming. You farm other players for RANK. )
Most of players stopping subs have high lelv avatars.
I have a 50/ranked in MP (hero)
Still have quests to do but can't win XP, most of time 1 make 1shot on 45+ mobs, really boring. Areas are empty, players are in Ettens, fun 1H by week that's all. Don't want to make a reroll (same quests same areas...)
This month will be my last one on Lotro (started on beta 2006). Started trial of DAOC, great game. Old but really great.
Lotro: polished game/Nice. And boring. Wow, EQ2 and VG 's PVE are better, DAOC" or Eve s PVP are better. Lotro is nice but inconsistent.
Waiting now for AOC/AION/WAR and I play DAOC, (sometimes EQ2, waiting for GU5/VG)
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If you like PVE take WoW, EQ2, Vanguard
If you prefer PVP, take DAOC or EVE
Forget Lotro. This game won't be Lord of the Ring with great battles or MEO. No strategy, not even Role playing. Only a nice polished and small game.
Interesting how you say how WoW, EQ2, and Vanguard's PvE is better though. I disagree. I've played 2 out of the 3 extensively; and enough of the other to know it wasn't my thing. Almost 1 year in LoTRo now. Much more fun at this point than the others were. Played EQ2 the longest at 1.5 years... I left it and Vanguard for LoTRo... been here ever exclusively since.
Not sure about your server... but the zones on Elendilmir are hardly "empty". High level zones have plenty of players, mid-level zones have plenty of players, beginning zones have plenty of players, Raids and PvMP have plenty of players.
Still have a couple alts in the low teens and lower 20's, as I'm working on their crafting as I level up. Takes all of about 30 seconds to find a group for whatever quest I want to do. Just did Retaking Weathertop with a pick-up group, all players in the upper teens to mid-20's... made it the first try.
I guess that's probably why they make more than one game. To each his own, and I hope you find fun in whatever game you decide on next. For those still looking, if you haven't tried out LoTRo... it's a great home. The most fun I've had since the UO and EQ days.