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Dev Journal #24 - 28.03
This is amazing, and everyone who has been following the game for 1-3 months or more knows how good of a Dev journal this is. If you Forumfall and have actually seen the posts and threads Tasos responds to it's even better. I'm sorry, this just brings a tear to my eye. I'll let the article speak for itself:
I have to say that the confidence he displays is great, it's good to see an honest challenge to the horrible games out there. Barring the obviously superior game features and the huuuuge open world, I think that the straight up honest way of presenting the Beta date and the screenshot-policy is a ton better than releasing unfinished games, pushing back the announced Beta date again and again and pretending the graphics are a billion time better than they really are. You are free to disagree of course. Either way, I applaud the Darkfall Development team.
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"We never tried to exploit the M rating, and we never felt there was a need to tease our players with promises of ultra violence or sexist sexual innuendo. "
They are taking a lot of shots at AOC in this interview. These guys are getting cocky. I hope they can deliver a game to back up their talk.
i AGree here to.. It was Striaght up Honest Answer there sticking to there Guns and they r definatly saying the right things if u ask me.. Gameplay > Gfx Gameplay > Mature Rating ooo BOOOBS go to youporn for fucks sakes.. imho i feel there close to The Game being dam near done i say summer to late winter
LMAO alot of us noticed that -_- they must have a great game waiting to go beta. they wouldnt be taking them shots if not but i guess we will see
Our progress with publishers is steady, unfortunately everyone moves at their own speed. Unless something unexpected happens, we are self-publishing in at least one territory so we've been working on that and using our time constructively to that end. Our publishing capability allows us to go ahead with public beta if this process looks like it might take much longer. Speaking of public beta, I read someone wished we would give a date, and equated that to professionalism on our part. I won't disagree with that, however giving a public beta date in order to get preorders, even if that means you have to announce consecutive delays, while professional, is not part of our business model. We'll announce a public beta date when we know for sure that it's the right date. Until then, at best, we can give you an idea of our milestones. Darkfall preorders by the way aren't applicable. Our hope for Darkfall is that you won't spend a cent on the game until you've tried it and decided you want to play it. At the moment, our target for public beta/ playtesting is ASAP, and we're doing everything we can to get there. We want our public beta to be the full game; we want this period to be a solid gaming experience and not one day here and thirty minutes there. We want it to be fast, fun and stable. This is why at the moment we're engaged in heavy internal beta testing using professional testers to get the game ready.
seems i was right about them not trying to rip people off
Agreed. They're completely right though, and everyone associated with AoC knows it.
I found it hilarious personally... Haha.
Ohh, a update...will read it now : )
I like when that say they have stayed with the same features during all development. No features have changed. And a good description how a fight could look like.
Loved this part- http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3070-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-24-Full-Freedom-Gameplay-and-Substance
[QUOTE] Tasos Flambouras: The size of the world: From the ones we know about, It's at least more than twice the land area size of the largest announced or released MMO out there. This world is also seamless and zoneless. You won't see people popping up everywhere, or camping your zone drop. We feel that this is crucial for a PvP game. To run from one end to another at regular running speed could take more than 8 hours. This is just an estimate: It could take less or more time depending on your route. It's not the exact size of the world which is that important though, it's what's in it. We could conceivably make an endless barren world but what's the point of that? In Darkfall our world is full of content, we keep adding more every day and it's all usable: Movement is not restricted, you don't have to stick to road travel, there are no invisible walls, no impassable mountains. Furthermore, you can go to places we didn't necessarily mean for you to go to by running, swimming, diving, climbing, using ladders, elevators, get blasted up, boosted up...any way you can get there, we've placed no restrictions. The scale of the Darkfall world is closer to realism than any other MMO we've seen. In Darkfall snowcaps are earned. This effectively multiplies the size of the world in a much bigger way than in most scaled down MMO worlds. [/QUOTE]
No invisible walls is just a hillarious comment.=) Seems Darkfall Devs have nothing but confident in its product when they make public criticism to one of their "hardest" competitioners Age of Conan.
theres a few more in there too pretty hard kick to the balls
The journal was a very good read.
But as others pointed out; wtf do they care about other games? Not cool.
The writing had an angry vibe
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This statement from Tasos seems promising. From latest dev journal 2008-03-28.
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3070-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-24-Full-Freedom-Gameplay-and-Substance.3
[QUOTE] Tasos Flambouras:
Conquest is something we're going to demonstrate, rather than talk about again. I'll say this however: You may recall a couple of screenshots we showed of a siege, and the size of the clan cities in that, and in our latest video. There are 44 unique massive clan city sites like that one in Darkfall and 53 unique clan villages and hamlets. Global and local bonuses are associated with the development of cities. There will also be several world wonders clans can build to gain permanent bonuses. The game has been designed from day one for city and empire building and conquest, and this is at a massive scale.[/QUOTE]
Seems were gonna get a new video soon on conquests.=)
And 97 clan cities/ clan villages isnt bad.
A quote on clancities and clanvillages from a older dev journal. Sounds just awsome to me.=)
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/2868-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-23-Tasos-Answers-29-Fan-Questions
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Fan Question: What will the construction system be like? Also, will players be able to create a city in mountains or in underground locations?
Tasos Flambouras: I'm not going to directly answer this question because we intend to show you at some point how the construction system works. Describing it here is not descriptive enough. We've said before that "building anywhere" is relative. In Darkfall you can't build in any location you want, but this provides with unique clan cities built in awesome locations. So your clan city can be built on top of a glacier, have a waterfall hiding its entrance, be built on several levels on the side and in caverns inside a mountain, have secret underwater entrances, on a remote island...that kind of thing. These clan city features are not just about aesthetics, like where you ask about customizations, there is functionality in their layout. Darkfall's clan cities are extremely impressive and no two will be the same. Furthermore their location is strategic as far as geography and proximity to limited resources, making them points of conflict. [/QUOTE]
Definitly gonna build my clancity behind some waterfall.=)
Sounds more like they're getting scared and trying to make excuses for when/if they release. "Sorry, we don't have everything we promised you. But that's because we refused to tease you with stuff AoC has."Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Sounds more like some very confident gentlemens with a kickass product to deliver. And seeing their competition fail making them even more confident. Who wouldnt?
Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Sounds more like some very confident gentlemens with a kickass product to deliver. And seeing their competition fail making them even more confident. Who wouldnt?
Their competition isn't out yet. So they haven't seen their competition fail. And until DF is released and surpassed EVE numbers at the very least, they haven't succeeded.
the way aoc is know it will fail i love how you just make stuff up to make them look bad tho keep trying to bad your losing
they should worry about their own game instead of taking shots at other games.
I like how you make stuff up to make Darkfall look good.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
I'd respond with a rebuttal, but you're too damn comical anymore.
This is probably one of the funniest things I've read. How can anyone focus so much on talking trash about developers of other games when their very own game has been in development for over 7 years and have nothing to show for it? I'm starting to think DF is one of the greatest gaming hoaxes of all time. This can't be serious.
Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Sounds more like some very confident gentlemens with a kickass product to deliver. And seeing their competition fail making them even more confident. Who wouldnt?
Their competition isn't out yet. So they haven't seen their competition fail. And until DF is released and surpassed EVE numbers at the very least, they haven't succeeded.
Yeah AoC beta leaks sure make us believe they will succeed!!
Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Sounds more like some very confident gentlemens with a kickass product to deliver. And seeing their competition fail making them even more confident. Who wouldnt?
Their competition isn't out yet. So they haven't seen their competition fail. And until DF is released and surpassed EVE numbers at the very least, they haven't succeeded.
Yeah AoC beta leaks sure make us believe they will succeed!!
I remember beta leaks from people saying WoW was a big failure before WoW launched. So yeah, beta leaks are a very dependable source to gauge success/failure from.
Sounds more like they're getting scared and trying to make excuses for when/if they release. "Sorry, we don't have everything we promised you. But that's because we refused to tease you with stuff AoC has."Really makes me wonder who they're trying to convince Darkfall is better than other games. The fans, or themselves.
Sounds more like some very confident gentlemens with a kickass product to deliver. And seeing their competition fail making them even more confident. Who wouldnt?
Their competition isn't out yet. So they haven't seen their competition fail. And until DF is released and surpassed EVE numbers at the very least, they haven't succeeded.
Yeah AoC beta leaks sure make us believe they will succeed!!
I remember beta leaks from people saying WoW was a big failure before WoW launched. So yeah, beta leaks are a very dependable source to gauge success/failure from.
Dependable or not they inform us about the game in rough terms and its no pretty reading if you asks me.=)
Back on topic. This seems to be some nice AI.=)
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3070-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-24-Full-Freedom-Gameplay-and-Substance.2
[QUOTE]Someone asked for a description of a typical PvP and a PvE encounter: To this I'll answer that there is no typical encounter in Darkfall. There are too many variables and you never know what you're getting into. Here's a quick PvE encounter for you nevertheless:
You ride up to a seemingly abandoned village and you get off your mount to explore it. As you enter through a gate, you hear a sound just as a mob jumps on you from above and connects with its weapon. You back up trying to mess up its range while you pull out your battleaxe. You rush the mob which circle-strafes you and you miss in your initial attacks. You manage to trade a couple of blows with it and it turns and runs. You pull out your bow and you notice it's doing the same as it's running off. You aim for its back and right as you release, your aim is thrown off by the explosion of a fireball which knocks you back and you miss. By the time you recover, the initial mob starts landing arrows on you and its friends are shooting spells while a couple are closing in to engage you with melee weapons. You run to your mount under fire and you try to get away but it gets killed from under you and you have to run away zigzagging because your character is in bad shape. Just as you think you're safe, an arrow, fired by another player you haven't seen in all the commotion, finishes you off and you're summarily stripped of your belongings. The End.[/QUOTE]
This is probably one of the funniest things I've read. How can anyone focus so much on talking trash about developers of other games when their very own game has been in development for over 7 years and have nothing to show for it? I'm starting to think DF is one of the greatest gaming hoaxes of all time. This can't be serious.
Yea, well pot meet cattle, it's not like they went to Funcom forums to talk shit about AoC.But I kinda agree, I wish they would have kept their cool, at least until they have proven their game actually exists.
A hoax? For what? They have used their own names for years now and they sure as hell haven't made much money yet.
i havent made anything up i go by what the devs have said : )
You didnt know AOc devs laughed at darkfall devs before so maybe you should tell them the same thing.
Yep and there will be no pre orders.
you will get to try the game before spending a dime. So le me sayt his again do they have a reason to lie?
That proves they have complete confident in there game to bring people in on the quality of it alone
Nice update. A lot of kicks to Aoc in here but as another poster commented on; the devs and community around Funcom haven't been playing nice either. The fraud elements of the vaporware movement is loosing ground as well. No preorders and test before buy. If these guys are crooks, they will not get any cash out of even the most naive amongst us gamers.
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they lost the moment they stepped in here
lol
I enjoyed the kicks they delivered to AoC. I remember when someone posted a link to a Darkfall vid in the AoC forums and some AoC dev or other jumped on it claiming they wouldn't achieve a fraction of what they planned, claimed that Aventurine would be conning people with pre-orders and such like.