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  • kpartonkparton Member Posts: 104

    Originally posted by Darkveldrin


     
    Originally posted by Vortigon

    Originally posted by DeadlyMage


     
    Originally posted by firefly2003


    too much instancing not enuf open world.. technical issues with it running on some computer... same ol same ol' MMO not enuf to keep me playing....
      i see you play eve....that game is more instance than AOC.

     

    they are just called gates in eve

    No those are called zones not instances, there is only one version of them not many versions.

    Why does it matter if the game is instanced, it makes it easier to quest so you don't have to fight over mobs.

     

    They have it set so if your in a group with your friends you can get into the same instance as them.

     

    I bet most ppl that are complaining about the instances are the ones that like to spawn gank on pvp servers and there targets just decided to switch instances so they don't get ganked as soon as they spawn.


    Thats the problem today,

    Instancing is a piss poor attempt at solving the contested mob problem.  introducing instancing has completly destroyed the whole MMORPG ethincs as we know it. 

    In fact I reckon we may well need a new tag for these types of games, maybe MMOIG's (Massively Multiplayer Online Instanced Game) thats right, theres no RP anymore and theres no feeling at all that your inside a living breathing world.

    this is a result of a flawed quest system, too many players trying to beat on a single mob for quest completion or advancement. Too many people beating on a single mob for loot.  its not ethical to have quests like this when there are so many people playing.

    instead of completly redesigning this type of system, they gave us instancing....piss poor but easier that reinventing the wheel.....and thats whats needed.

  • LeerixLeerix Member Posts: 43

     

    Originally posted by tryklon


    It's really sad so see all this wow fanboys posting here saying that they canceled subscriptions, most of them dont even have a capable computer let alone play the game. How looser must a person be in real life to come to this forums just to write BS about a game they didnt even tryied, just because they are afraid their precious wow, the meaning of their sad lives, starts going down.... its ridiculous and i feel pity of this ppl.
     
    Now to answer the thread, i am a 3 year player of wow, and like someone said, i am canceling the account on this poor old outdated game.. bye bye wow   



    3k hours on wow and you have the audacity to say someone else is a loser and feel pity for them..... lol nice one

     

    honestly mate, i hate wow, so dont think im a fanboi, but hide ur sig with that flame lol

    glad to see your finally leaving wow (probably your first mmo)

    I'm on the fence to try AoC, the real problem being that its just another cookie cutter questfest for progression, having played almost all mmo's since UO i just cant take another run here kill 20 of that type of progression, basically makes it a single player story until endgame.  Sadly "endgame" is just that to me except for pvp.  It's the end of the game.  Ever since eq1 raiding came out endgame has been the part to hold players into a game for a long time.  Pre-this route the game itself all the way from start to finish is what kept ppl playing, questfests will never do this.  I'll keep a close eye on seige pvp and where that goes, but honestly in a full instanced game it doesnt sound dynamic now, just another game in a game (daoc/wow battleground) with no other meaning than to win that little game then go on with teh "mmo world"

    So the next time someone rushes to endgame and asks "wheres the content" dont blame them, for the last 4 years they've been tought its a boring questfest tell endgame then the real game begins, its a sad state of affairs that will be re-hashed until the first one to do it makes good money.

  • pingo75pingo75 Member Posts: 29

    Originally posted by kparton


     
     
    Instancing is a piss poor attempt at solving the contested mob problem.  introducing instancing has completly destroyed the whole MMORPG ethincs as we know it. 
    ...
    instead of completly redesigning this type of system, they gave us instancing....piss poor but easier that reinventing the wheel.....and thats whats needed.
    Sad as this is ...

    Two of the most recent releases in MMO sphere that I remember (as far as P2P big project go) are Tabula Rasa and Age of Conan. I was beta-testing TR and the same instancing of zones was used as in AoC. Both games are graphically advanced, but social / imersion / role-play side was a source of complains from day one.

    And as the poster I qouted states ... the problem is not technical, its design. If you design the game, quests or named mobs or even grinds to send all your population into choke points, you get the problem.

    Only at least IMO "parallel universes" solution is not a good workaround.

  • ByromByrom Member Posts: 236

    It doesnt feel real instanced, as I thought it would, these zones are pretty big, from what I expected.

    Grinding can get one experience after leaving Tortage, the beginning area.

    Ive got to admit it's different, but not incredibly so. And Ive not done too many repedative quests. So far most have been more like missions, to do hits. Last one I did was to kill this dude and cut the tattoo off his arm. Made it nice as I killed him with a fatality move, that left my sword in his guts , for a few seconds, while I stepped back and laughed at him before ripping my sword out and taking his tattoo off.

    Cutting peoples heads off is nice also. The way the head rolls one way, and their body flops back the other. Nice spurting blood and gurgleing sounds from the stump.

    I'm not a fanboy, I like anything to do with the whole , teeth and eyeballs, thing.

    But the PvP servers, ones I tried , bunch of whiney punks running around ganking ppl as soon as they rez. Then getting on OOC to list all the dirty words they learned at school, earlyer.

  • treysmoothtreysmooth Member UncommonPosts: 648

     

    Originally posted by tryklon


    It's really sad so see all this wow fanboys posting here saying that they canceled subscriptions, most of them dont even have a capable computer let alone play the game. How looser must a person be in real life to come to this forums just to write BS about a game they didnt even tryied, just because they are afraid their precious wow, the meaning of their sad lives, starts going down.... its ridiculous and i feel pity of this ppl.
     
    Now to answer the thread, i am a 3 year player of wow, and like someone said, i am canceling the account on this poor old outdated game.. bye bye wow   
    TBH I'm actually considering canceling myself.  The reason's aren't what you will claim though, the games runs great on my computer, I honestly only have one bug where the game crashes after I close it down but it doesn't cause any registry or file corruption so it really isn't a problem.

     

    The problem with the game for me is purely the community on the server I'm on, they are sophomoric at best and downright childish at their worst.  Community's are what make or break an mmo and right now their  dishonorable actions combined with the OCC chat worse than the worst zone in Wow is really making me think twice before even bothering to log in.

    Game from a graphics, gameplay and fun lvl for me is really good but I don't feel like sitting through another Shadowbane type of community.  To many leet speaking angry people running around flaunting their E-peen while E thugging on the nearest lowbie lol.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    If you enjoy the game, why don't you try a different server?

  • Grail3rGrail3r Member Posts: 97

    Im addicted , this game is best MMO Ive ever played

    Played every single MMO that was launched.

    Only thing missing is that polish

  • treysmoothtreysmooth Member UncommonPosts: 648

     

     

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    If you enjoy the game, why don't you try a different server?

    That is the server everyone I know decided to play on.  Starting on a new server isn't gonna help with the current ganking issues plaguing the game.  Honestly its not that I've been ganked to much(72-28 record), its more to do with the fact I feel like I'm one of the very few that is trying to be the anti ganker so to speak.  I look for those that are trying to gank those lower than them and often kill them letting them know the reason I did.  While it was satisfying to kill these cowardly spawn campers and lowbie gankers its finely starting to wear on me and I just don't feel the need to mess with it anymore.

     

     

    Maybe this crowd will move on when the prison system is introduced and if so I think the game could shine with more time.  I was actually one of those telling people that the game needed 4 more months of tweaking and polish but they didn't listen and released early without tweaking the system at least to dissuade people from repeatedly ruining lower lvls experience.  I bought it knowing the state of the game but the state of the community is entirely another issue.

    Don't get me wrong I don't really regret the purchase, I really enjoyed the 1-20 story line as it felt like Oblivion a bit.  It seems like a game I'll sub to for a month or two here and there and play the story arcs, with time maybe they will increase siege numbers and I'll try to get into organized pvp.

     

  • jimmy123jimmy123 Member UncommonPosts: 314

    I'm only playing until WARHAMMER comes out.

    That's what i said 3 months ago, now i'm playing AoC i realy like it.

    Good points = Looks great, combat system is so cool, Adult feel.

    Bad points = Bit of a pig to run at a nice FPS

    My experince of the game so far.

  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Member UncommonPosts: 654

     

    Originally posted by treysmooth


     
     
    Originally posted by tryklon


    It's really sad so see all this wow fanboys posting here saying that they canceled subscriptions, most of them dont even have a capable computer let alone play the game. How looser must a person be in real life to come to this forums just to write BS about a game they didnt even tryied, just because they are afraid their precious wow, the meaning of their sad lives, starts going down.... its ridiculous and i feel pity of this ppl.
     
    Now to answer the thread, i am a 3 year player of wow, and like someone said, i am canceling the account on this poor old outdated game.. bye bye wow   
    TBH I'm actually considering canceling myself.  The reason's aren't what you will claim though, the games runs great on my computer, I honestly only have one bug where the game crashes after I close it down but it doesn't cause any registry or file corruption so it really isn't a problem.

     

     

    The problem with the game for me is purely the community on the server I'm on, they are sophomoric at best and downright childish at their worst.  Community's are what make or break an mmo and right now their  dishonorable actions combined with the OCC chat worse than the worst zone in Wow is really making me think twice before even bothering to log in.

    Game from a graphics, gameplay and fun lvl for me is really good but I don't feel like sitting through another Shadowbane type of community.  To many leet speaking angry people running around flaunting their E-peen while E thugging on the nearest lowbie lol.

    I had a feeling the community would be poor on release.  The game may have an age rating of 18+, but I'm sure a high percentage of players are under that. Also you do not have to be under 18 to act a pr**k online.

     

    Give it a couple of months you will see the community settle down once the immature crowd get bored with the tits and gore and leave. If you are enjoying the game why leave, just turn off ooc chat.

  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Member UncommonPosts: 654
    Originally posted by jimmy123


    I'm only playing until WARHAMMER comes out.
    That's what i said 3 months ago, now i'm playing AoC i realy like it.
    Good points = Looks great, combat system is so cool, Adult feel.
    Bad points = Bit of a pig to run at a nice FPS
    My experince of the game so far.

    Go into video options and turn off shadows.  You still get the nice eye candy but at nearly double the fps.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Wish I could disable custom font sizes just like it's possible to hide all signatures ... irrelevant but relevant at the same time :)

  • De4th_M0nKeeDe4th_M0nKee Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by Clautech


    Personally this game is not my taste, just want to see how many people same like me
    Nope. I am enjoying the game.

     

    Nice unbiased poll you have there. 1 possible answer for no. 4 that are variations on yes with a greater or lesser tone of hatred.

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he will eat for a month!

  • RayveRayve Member Posts: 46

    I think it is a breath of new life into a stagnant genre. I'm really enjoying it.

  • summitussummitus Member UncommonPosts: 1,414

    Love the game have cancelled all othe subs exept Lotro which I have a lifetime sub.......Age of Conan blows everything else away period  !

    And when the game is fine tuned and more content is added its only going to get better, it seems by reading the forums the only people that dont like it are the Trolls ( which is the same for every game ) and the whingers that are trying to run it on outdated rigs .

  • choronactchoronact Member Posts: 1

    Love this game so far and am only a 21 ToS on a real sucky pc.

    Biggest let down I've had was the lies around minimum specs; ok not lies but its misleading to say that these are the min specs and not explain that your gaming experience will suck due to dropping down to 2.6 fps every time you change direction or start sprinting. Hopefully this will go away for me as i have bought a new rig and am just waiting on delivery.

    I'm gonna say this again even though its been said many a time:  you will need well over the min spec to enjoy this game, most noticeably your CPU seems to be the most limiting factor in terms of fps. The game is designed for dual cores to excel, go with that if your intending on buying/upgrading your rig. Get a quad core if you have more money than sense and  want to RP that all 4 cores are doing something ;)

    As I've not progressed very far and and have decided to stop playing for the next few days till my rig arrives can't shed any light on higher end content. What I will query is that a few people have said that high end game is empty? just wanted to clarify that is this not due to you out levelling the crap outta people and your experience of course will be lonely as everyone else is still faffing around in tortage and the 20s areas?

    Anyways wall of text and bored @ work FTW!

    My 3 paragraphed ramble ;-)

  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Originally posted by Leerix


     
    Originally posted by tryklon


    It's really sad so see all this wow fanboys posting here saying that they canceled subscriptions, most of them dont even have a capable computer let alone play the game. How looser must a person be in real life to come to this forums just to write BS about a game they didnt even tryied, just because they are afraid their precious wow, the meaning of their sad lives, starts going down.... its ridiculous and i feel pity of this ppl.
     
    Now to answer the thread, i am a 3 year player of wow, and like someone said, i am canceling the account on this poor old outdated game.. bye bye wow   



    3k hours on wow and you have the audacity to say someone else is a loser and feel pity for them..... lol nice one

     

    honestly mate, i hate wow, so dont think im a fanboi, but hide ur sig with that flame lol

    glad to see your finally leaving wow (probably your first mmo)

    I'm on the fence to try AoC, the real problem being that its just another cookie cutter questfest for progression, having played almost all mmo's since UO i just cant take another run here kill 20 of that type of progression, basically makes it a single player story until endgame.  Sadly "endgame" is just that to me except for pvp.  It's the end of the game.  Ever since eq1 raiding came out endgame has been the part to hold players into a game for a long time.  Pre-this route the game itself all the way from start to finish is what kept ppl playing, questfests will never do this.  I'll keep a close eye on seige pvp and where that goes, but honestly in a full instanced game it doesnt sound dynamic now, just another game in a game (daoc/wow battleground) with no other meaning than to win that little game then go on with teh "mmo world"

    So the next time someone rushes to endgame and asks "wheres the content" dont blame them, for the last 4 years they've been tought its a boring questfest tell endgame then the real game begins, its a sad state of affairs that will be re-hashed until the first one to do it makes good money.

      First off all the 3k hours on my sig are counted on my home computer, what u see in this 3k hours is 3 almost 4 years of gameplay and 3 ppl that share the same computer. Second, u are right, wow was my first mmo, but since wow i did play many more, ive been in LoTro, DDO, GW, not to mention lots of free ones.

     

    last one, u are a fanboy, one of thos "alternative" type dudes, who think its cool to hate wow.... sad 

    I never sad i hated wow, i am canceling because something better arrived

  • VortigonVortigon Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by Buccaneer


    IMO I think the world is limited due to the game being release on the Xbox.  Funcom have shackled themselves to the Xbox's limitations.  It's a shame I think AoC would have been amazing and pushed more boundries if it was developed as a PC title only. As it is AoC is a fun game, but not a great game.

    Totally agree, you can always tell when a game developer is thinking more about console sales than pc sales when you see the product.

    AoC feels like a console game and has all the limitations that consoles impose, the combat systems is not a revolution it is a simplyfied console version of normal MMO combat, its a big con and many people fell for the hype.

  • wicked357wicked357 Member UncommonPosts: 172

    I happen to like this game and intend on playing it for at least awhile! I don't plan on canceling my sub anytime soon. I know if I get tired of this game all is lost. I might as well quit playing because I am not interested in WAR and I have played just about everything out there and needed something new, so far so good with AoC for me anyways. Seems like a lot of people like it to so im ok! GL to all that go back to your old MMO.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    It depends on who you ask. Personally I'm having trouble enjoying combat in the other MMOs I'm playing after experiencing AoC. Others don't like it. Variety in life is good ;)

  • UgaritUgarit Member Posts: 213
    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    Two of my good friends have already cancel there account reasons:
    1) Far to much instanced in the game
    2) PvP is simple buttonsmashing
    3) Game is still in beta, bugs
    4) Tech spec  is too high
    5) Community

    same for me. (same reasons)

  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    Originally posted by Vortigon


     
    Originally posted by Buccaneer


    IMO I think the world is limited due to the game being release on the Xbox.  Funcom have shackled themselves to the Xbox's limitations.  It's a shame I think AoC would have been amazing and pushed more boundries if it was developed as a PC title only. As it is AoC is a fun game, but not a great game.

     

    Totally agree, you can always tell when a game developer is thinking more about console sales than pc sales when you see the product.

    AoC feels like a console game and has all the limitations that consoles impose, the combat systems is not a revolution it is a simplyfied console version of normal MMO combat, its a big con and many people fell for the hype.

    This is just silly.  The combat system is not a con it is awesome.  For me to be able to work a group of players and kill them with skill, positioning, side stepping, the use of certain combos and spells as needed at the touch of my fingers is epic.

    In all other MMO's you have to ask yourself before a fight if the enemies level and gear are higher than yours(which means time played) if you can win the fight.  A fight in almost every MMO is entirely determined by gear. 

    In AoC I can get killed by one guy who gets the jump on me, but at the same time I can come across him and three of his friends and I can kill all four of them with skill, timing, positioning, and the right combo of skills. 

    AoC is an awesome game, and it is not limited by console development in any way.  The game was clearly made for PC first and will have to have some major tweaks to be playable on console. 

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171

    Originally posted by Xasapis


    It depends on who you ask. Personally I'm having trouble enjoying combat in the other MMOs I'm playing after experiencing AoC. Others don't like it. Variety in life is good ;)
    You beat me to it.

    I never really payed any attention to the combat side of MMOs even though it's a big part, there's nothing to it. After playing real-time combat in an MMO (AoC), every time I engage in combat in other MMOs I Alt-F4 immediately as I can't stand it anymore.

     

     

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  • DreamionDreamion Member UncommonPosts: 287

    Played for a week now or so, soon into 50 range and its been a great time so far. need to be 80 so i can really get more into guild aspects of the game. anyone who judges the game before even playing through it cant really say so much, specially when theres prob no use of guilds until high-end game except for maybe less ganking on pvp servers.

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171

    Originally posted by Ugarit

    Originally posted by Battlekruse


    Two of my good friends have already cancel there account reasons:
    1) Far to much instanced in the game
    2) PvP is simple buttonsmashing
    3) Game is still in beta, bugs
    4) Tech spec  is too high
    5) Community

    same for me. (same reasons)

    1) Only pre-lvl20

    2)This is plain wrong. Try button mashing against a good player and he would beat you 1vs3

    3) It has bugs like any other MMO at launch (and some 4years from launch). None Game-breaking and less than most MMOs at launch.

    4)Specs are high for high quality graphics. you can run the game fine at low by following the minimum requirements.

    5)Community... I don't have a problem with that personally. Though I'm sure it's not that bad on your server to just ditch the game because of it.

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